Your likely right with the videos, and as for play-lists, I am guessing it makes finding deleted data a lot easier if you know the track name that will be neatly in the ID tag within the start of the file.
Means the person can be "done" not only for what they have on their computer, but what they had on their computer as well.
I am guessing it would be a pretty big thing to someone if, questionable, content were found on their drive, and they were told that it had been found, and would be entered into public court documents, might make a person real eager to settle a case.
My opinion of them just reached a whole new order of low, knowing that they have done such a thing, and of the legal system for letting that happen;(
Maybe it is time for "copy" to be amended to "persistent copy", and of course have persistent defined as specific circumstances (easy one would be "on power loss retains data" but a specific length of time, perhaps a percentage of the duration, would do in a pinch).
Another one is the classic "office 2007 trial" that comes on laptops, it is of course the full PRO version of office, so unsuspecting people start using it, they use word, they might have their kids use powerpoint and excel too, but they will also use office Outlook for their mail, and in 60 days time, all their email is held hostage unless they buy the PRO version, whereas usually such users could stick with "home and student" which has mostly what kids and households need.
That and the following phone calls to microsoft about the issue (they were kinda "nudge nudge" about it being a bonus for me as a retailer, arseholes) led us to pre-install openoffice on all new computers:)
As someone else pointed out, its the "computer guru" friend that is the worst one.
Best one so far was a little old lady who demanded an intel core i7 based pc for... web browsing and email, just because her friends son told her she needed one.
Nope, infact, I don't even know what it stands for, the site linked doesn't tell me either, I assume from the links all over the site its some WoW x-pac?
Had the same problem, absolutely nowhere does it actually state the full name of the game, I saw a few links to WoW stuff on there and figured it was some add-in for the latest expansion...
Ohhh, can it tell me when to move and shoot as well? Hey then interface it with the keyboard and mouse inputs and all my games can play themselves (like masturbation for computers).
Then I can do other things while having fun playing games.
Foam is cheap, doesn't conduct electricity, and the original question was just how to store them safely, not how to make something to power them up in:)
But yes, if you plan to power them up, I would suggest making up proper mounting brackets and bolting the drives into the box so it can dissipate heat through the casing.
That said, the interesting article from google about a year or so back in regards to consumer drive failure was a very interesting read, most failures happened in the first year and after five years of working life.
Don't trust it in the first year Don't trust it out of warranty Don't trust it...
To be honest, being semi-offsite is not the job of your NAS (which is a primary storage method), you should be backing your NAS up to something else.
It all comes down to how much your data is worth, if its just a large collection of stuff leeched from TPP, well, I don't even bother with a redundant array for that crap, my porn collection on the other hand...:P
Nah, you can get better density if you use the original foam packing that they come with, the only problem is if you spin them up in it you will cook the things, I solved this by lining up a big 3" drill bit and driving it down through all the drives and attaching a fan to the end, keeps em cool.
Or (if you want a real solution) you could, I dunno, get an old army ammo case from your local disposals store (we have em called Aussie Disposals), cut the same packing foam used to ship (as joked about above) and fit about 20 drives in a nice tin safely and bullet proof:)
Yeah, we got a local installation of SIGINT, I have a friend or 2 who work there (and are allowed to talk about the destruction of drives).
They don't bother with erasure, ANY media, usb sticks, cds, dvds, HDD... ANYTHING, gets put in the furnace before it leaves a building, and is made all nice and melty.
They don't take chances to make back a pittance on second hand parts, and for that I am glad:)
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Your likely right with the videos, and as for play-lists, I am guessing it makes finding deleted data a lot easier if you know the track name that will be neatly in the ID tag within the start of the file.
Means the person can be "done" not only for what they have on their computer, but what they had on their computer as well.
I am guessing it would be a pretty big thing to someone if, questionable, content were found on their drive, and they were told that it had been found, and would be entered into public court documents, might make a person real eager to settle a case.
My opinion of them just reached a whole new order of low, knowing that they have done such a thing, and of the legal system for letting that happen ;(
Maybe it is time for "copy" to be amended to "persistent copy", and of course have persistent defined as specific circumstances (easy one would be "on power loss retains data" but a specific length of time, perhaps a percentage of the duration, would do in a pinch).
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Another one is the classic "office 2007 trial" that comes on laptops, it is of course the full PRO version of office, so unsuspecting people start using it, they use word, they might have their kids use powerpoint and excel too, but they will also use office Outlook for their mail, and in 60 days time, all their email is held hostage unless they buy the PRO version, whereas usually such users could stick with "home and student" which has mostly what kids and households need.
That and the following phone calls to microsoft about the issue (they were kinda "nudge nudge" about it being a bonus for me as a retailer, arseholes) led us to pre-install openoffice on all new computers :)
Nah, the most serious stuff was watching some porn she gets from usenet.
Yeah, thats another.
As someone else pointed out, its the "computer guru" friend that is the worst one.
Best one so far was a little old lady who demanded an intel core i7 based pc for... web browsing and email, just because her friends son told her she needed one.
Nope, infact, I don't even know what it stands for, the site linked doesn't tell me either, I assume from the links all over the site its some WoW x-pac?
And if I hear the phrase "now, I am computer illiterate..." one more fucking time....
The best therapy for that one though, is to mentally change illiterate to ignorant.
The problem being, no matter how big a signed int you chose for the value of $TOTAL_GBP_SPENT_BY_POLITICIAN it will always, eventually, overflow :)
Had the same problem, absolutely nowhere does it actually state the full name of the game, I saw a few links to WoW stuff on there and figured it was some add-in for the latest expansion...
Ohhh, can it tell me when to move and shoot as well? Hey then interface it with the keyboard and mouse inputs and all my games can play themselves (like masturbation for computers).
Then I can do other things while having fun playing games.
Foam is cheap, doesn't conduct electricity, and the original question was just how to store them safely, not how to make something to power them up in :)
But yes, if you plan to power them up, I would suggest making up proper mounting brackets and bolting the drives into the box so it can dissipate heat through the casing.
Easy, get some rectangular drain pipe, stuff a bunch of hard drives in it, weld up the end and glue a usb cable to it.
Pray your raid doesn't fail.
And then pray another drive doesn't fail while you take the many many hours needed to rebuild the array onto a new disk.
The best rule of thumb (ahem, rule of wrist)...
There's no such thing as permanent storage.
That said, the interesting article from google about a year or so back in regards to consumer drive failure was a very interesting read, most failures happened in the first year and after five years of working life.
Don't trust it in the first year
Don't trust it out of warranty
Don't trust it...
To be honest, being semi-offsite is not the job of your NAS (which is a primary storage method), you should be backing your NAS up to something else.
It all comes down to how much your data is worth, if its just a large collection of stuff leeched from TPP, well, I don't even bother with a redundant array for that crap, my porn collection on the other hand... :P
Or pay someone like Mozy $5 a month and not have to fuck with USB sticks, bank deposit bags/cases and the fees inherent in those.
Nah, you can get better density if you use the original foam packing that they come with, the only problem is if you spin them up in it you will cook the things, I solved this by lining up a big 3" drill bit and driving it down through all the drives and attaching a fan to the end, keeps em cool.
Or (if you want a real solution) you could, I dunno, get an old army ammo case from your local disposals store (we have em called Aussie Disposals), cut the same packing foam used to ship (as joked about above) and fit about 20 drives in a nice tin safely and bullet proof :)
I just get a friend from the states to buy the game on steam and send it to me as a gift :)
But this will be one game I will likely skip.
And for the problem prisoners, Daikatana.
Time for an upgrade :)
Oh, you did not just say that striped drives are redundant did you? :)
Yeah, we got a local installation of SIGINT, I have a friend or 2 who work there (and are allowed to talk about the destruction of drives).
They don't bother with erasure, ANY media, usb sticks, cds, dvds, HDD... ANYTHING, gets put in the furnace before it leaves a building, and is made all nice and melty.
They don't take chances to make back a pittance on second hand parts, and for that I am glad :)
Thermite is damn cheap to make :)
Funny that, I know SIGINT (Australian signals intelligence) don't trust ANY form of drive erasure, with the cost of drives, they just burn them.
Considering the amount of budget these departments, why would they take the risk?
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