you do realize that 'xxx' isn't a real rating, don't you? most port isn't submitted to the ratings monkeys. 'XXX' is a marketing tool to make them sound even more hardcore or something.
unless you meant that after the first one, no one would be stupid enough to sneak into the Ice Cube edition of the crappy james bond rip off ?
I should also point out that i'm not particularly interested in converting people alway from microsoft products, i'm interested in converting people away from crappy products.
for example, netobjects fusion produced this wonderfully compatable page: ( view in firefox, scroll down to the bottom )
http://www.kodenkan.org/html/instructors.html
Since this page was done by a friend of mine instead of a customer, i can't make him stop using it.
I care what clients people use because I end up supporting them. I run a smallish hosting service, and about 50% of the issues that I end up dealing with are caused somehow by microsoft products ( either an issue with their outlook client, or an issue caused because they used word to create their web page ).
In the case of customers, i can get around the pain that microsoft causes me by charging them if their problem is somehow caused by using a microsoft ( although I just use the word 'unsupported' ) product.
In the case of friends, I don't get to tell them that their program is unsupported:)
>in ten years, we will all be thanking RMS for
>his foresight - or lamenting that too few people
>took him seriously enough to avert disaster...
or, maybe, in 10 years we'll all be thanking theo for actually doing something about good and free software instead of just whining about it all the time.
hmm.... while setuid is often used as a bad hack to avoid learning proper programming methodology ( like priv sep ) I'm not sure i like that they've taken it away completly. I prefer freebsd's approach ( but then... how often is that not true ? ) of making you mount the file system with a 'setuid' flag before you can run setuid scripts on it. since most apple users will never touch fstab ( or whatever their xml equiv is ) this would be a better approach.
and the worst doctor yet was he. not that he's a bad actor, it was just a bad casting choice. but then... I doubt that anyone would have been popular as the 5th dr:)
>the Opteron certainly smokes everything intel >has except itanium2, which it also might smoke >but I'm withholding judgement until I read >better comparisons than I've seen to date.
sorry, you wont be seeing any comparisons. the Itanium blows so hard that no one will buy any... so no one has them to review. Even HP, who did most of the dev work on itanium, is shipping opteron systems now.
>and then finally triangulation of the location of >a given user on a WiFi network.
heh. given the size of most wifi networks, ( i.e., just slightly larger than the coffee shop ) wouldn't it be easier to just walk around and look over everyone's shoulders at their screen ?
I'm glad that I'll never have to put up with these tatics from BestBuy again (not that I ever did, I use pricewatch and Fry's for my hardware needs)
A month a go I built a new system from components, which I got at Frys ( too impatient to wait for NewEgg ). 2/3 of the ~20 components had rebates. As i think back, it seems that ~ 1/2 of the things i ever bought at Frys had rebates. they even print the rebates on the cash register reciept for you.
so i have no idea what you're buying at Frys that don't have rebates, but it's probibaly not made of silicon. are you the guy i always see in the hentai animi section ?
The scary part is alot of companys do reguire a stupid bit of paper to say "Blah can do blah"
I totally agree. Which is why i went out and got a LPI cert. I guess i'm just frustrated by how ignorant most IT managers are. maybe i shouldn't take it out on the poster:)
as right now, companies don't have any way of knowning if a person is an experienced BSD administrator."
please. as though a piece of paper is going to tell them that. I can see it now: I go up against... oh, say, Jordan Hubbard... for a gig. He doesn't have one of the certificates... do you think my having one will make them choose me over him?
>Really? I've been streaming video off tape >since 1985 when I first used a VHS VCR.
ya, love that digital VHS.
but, on to a real question: when they had no compression, they used to use 12 inch disks for movies. why not use 1 12-inch disk with compression and get the whole movie on one ?
how sad is it when you spend so much time on/. that you respond to your own posts? anyway...
when running xdmcp with a commercial unix, be very carefull to get your dns working correctly. They don't use XFree/XOrg derived X servers, so there's no way to turn off their default behavior of trying to resolve hostnames.
how is this the best solution? out of the box, with a minimal *nix install i can do everything that microsoft wants tons of money for. in many cases, i don't have to pay anything for it.
there are 2 things he might be looking for: 1. thin clientish stuff 2. remote admin stuff.
for people who need thin client stuff, all they need to do is install everything on the server and then run xdmcp. people can then log in from any X server ( ie, another *nix box, a pc running cygwin/hummingbird/whatever ).
for #2, i'd first suggest that he learn how to do everything on the command line, but if he really needs a remote gui, he can either use something like webmin or a tunneled X session.
To justify my point about learning the command line: on a *nix machine, it's not unlikely that you'll have to boot into single user mode and hack some config file with vi ( fstab much? ).
The fact that you can do this at all, when it's pretty much impossible on a windows box, is already a point in *nix's favor, btw, but i digress.
if all you know is Yast or whatever admin gui redhat is shipping with now, you'll never be able to do this.
Except that we sysadmins make our money because no one bothers to rtfm and understand, and any involvement on their part is usually best fixed by a drastic means such as reformatting and starting over. Every question i've ever been asked was either 1. impossible or 2. best answered by summarizing the output of "man $topic"
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what a stupid question. how do they deal with the same thing in case of commercial software? why is there a difference?
...that except for XXX a kid is going to see it
you do realize that 'xxx' isn't a real rating, don't you? most port isn't submitted to the ratings monkeys. 'XXX' is a marketing tool to make them sound even more hardcore or something.
unless you meant that after the first one, no one would be stupid enough to sneak into the Ice Cube edition of the crappy james bond rip off ?
I should also point out that i'm not particularly interested in converting people alway from microsoft products, i'm interested in converting people away from crappy products.
for example, netobjects fusion produced this wonderfully compatable page: ( view in firefox, scroll down to the bottom )
http://www.kodenkan.org/html/instructors.html
Since this page was done by a friend of mine instead of a customer, i can't make him stop using it.
I care what clients people use because I end up supporting them. I run a smallish hosting service, and about 50% of the issues that I end up dealing with are caused somehow by microsoft products ( either an issue with their outlook client, or an issue caused because they used word to create their web page ).
:)
In the case of customers, i can get around the pain that microsoft causes me by charging them if their problem is somehow caused by using a microsoft ( although I just use the word 'unsupported' ) product.
In the case of friends, I don't get to tell them that their program is unsupported
>in ten years, we will all be thanking RMS for >his foresight - or lamenting that too few people >took him seriously enough to avert disaster... or, maybe, in 10 years we'll all be thanking theo for actually doing something about good and free software instead of just whining about it all the time.
hmm.... while setuid is often used as a bad hack to avoid learning proper programming methodology ( like priv sep ) I'm not sure i like that they've taken it away completly. I prefer freebsd's approach ( but then... how often is that not true ? ) of making you mount the file system with a 'setuid' flag before you can run setuid scripts on it. since most apple users will never touch fstab ( or whatever their xml equiv is ) this would be a better approach.
and the worst doctor yet was he. not that he's a bad actor, it was just a bad casting choice. but then... I doubt that anyone would have been popular as the 5th dr :)
>the Opteron certainly smokes everything intel
>has except itanium2, which it also might smoke
>but I'm withholding judgement until I read
>better comparisons than I've seen to date.
sorry, you wont be seeing any comparisons. the Itanium blows so hard that no one will buy any... so no one has them to review. Even HP, who did most of the dev work on itanium, is shipping opteron systems now.
> "daylite"
daylite ? isn't that what happens in alaska when theres only 2 hours of daylight?
>"The more daylight we have, the less electricity
> we use," said Markey
Please tell me that noone actually believes that daylight savings time increases the number of sunlit hours in a day?
>and then finally triangulation of the location of
>a given user on a WiFi network.
heh. given the size of most wifi networks, ( i.e., just slightly larger than the coffee shop ) wouldn't it be easier to just walk around and look over everyone's shoulders at their screen ?
hmm... I like the moving square that shows you what area the zoom will cover. maybe google will get this too.
blockquoth the poster:
A month a go I built a new system from components, which I got at Frys ( too impatient to wait for NewEgg ). 2/3 of the ~20 components had rebates. As i think back, it seems that ~ 1/2 of the things i ever bought at Frys had rebates. they even print the rebates on the cash register reciept for you.
so i have no idea what you're buying at Frys that don't have rebates, but it's probibaly not made of silicon. are you the guy i always see in the hentai animi section ?
I totally agree. Which is why i went out and got a LPI cert. I guess i'm just frustrated by how ignorant most IT managers are. maybe i shouldn't take it out on the poster
not that i'm slamming this effort, just the poster's expectation that a piece of paper will magically save companies from 'having no way of knowing'.
the thing is, if a company is using *bsd, they're already somewhat cluefull.
The main benefit i expect from this is that it'll lend legitimacy to the BSDs in the mind of the clueless suits of the world.
>Really? I've been streaming video off tape
>since 1985 when I first used a VHS VCR.
ya, love that digital VHS.
but, on to a real question: when they had no compression, they used to use 12 inch disks for movies. why not use 1 12-inch disk with compression and get the whole movie on one ?
>>Not to mention that MySQL doesn't even
>>enforce referential integrity
>InnoDB tables, which provide referential integrity
they do? without stored procedures and triggers? how?
how sad is it when you spend so much time on /. that you respond to your own posts? anyway...
when running xdmcp with a commercial unix, be very carefull to get your dns working correctly. They don't use XFree/XOrg derived X servers, so there's no way to turn off their default behavior of trying to resolve hostnames.
>best solution... it's on a Windows OS
how is this the best solution? out of the box, with a minimal *nix install i can do everything that microsoft wants tons of money for. in many cases, i don't have to pay anything for it.
there are 2 things he might be looking for:
1. thin clientish stuff
2. remote admin stuff.
for people who need thin client stuff, all they need to do is install everything on the server and then run xdmcp. people can then log in from any X server ( ie, another *nix box, a pc running cygwin/hummingbird/whatever ).
for #2, i'd first suggest that he learn how to do everything on the command line, but if he really needs a remote gui, he can either use something like webmin or a tunneled X session.
To justify my point about learning the command line: on a *nix machine, it's not unlikely that you'll have to boot into single user mode and hack some config file with vi ( fstab much? ).
The fact that you can do this at all, when it's pretty much impossible on a windows box, is already a point in *nix's favor, btw, but i digress.
if all you know is Yast or whatever admin gui redhat is shipping with now, you'll never be able to do this.
Goddammit, I need to get in the middle of this discussion. if only i were more awake....
( stumbles off to drink coffee )
>A completely adaptive system that detects
>everything is probably out of your reach
http://www.nagios.org/
you've never done this, have you ?
hmm... your mission statement doesn't do enough to leverage your core competencies to exceed customer expectations and maximize shareholder value.
>Customer who understands and will get involved.
Except that we sysadmins make our money because no one bothers to rtfm and understand, and any involvement on their part is usually best fixed by a drastic means such as reformatting and starting over. Every question i've ever been asked was either
1. impossible
or 2. best answered by summarizing the output of "man $topic"