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Irish Movie Theatres Go Digital
Draoi writes "ElectricNews is reporting that Irish movie theatres are to be the first in the world to switch from old 35mm media to a completely digital format. New movies are to be delivered via satellite which, I'm sure, will bring up security issues of its own."
Looks dupey...
What is this some kind of irish joke?
We had that story three days ago: here...
Dupe.
it's a dupe: Irish Cinema Set to Go Digital First
Really, how hard is it to use the search first?
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What would really be news is if Slashdot authors started reading their own website to see what their co-authors are posting.
In addition, what would really be news is if Slashdot authors started reading their own website to see what their co-authors are posting.
But then also, what would really be news is if Slashdot authors started reading their own website to see what their co-authors are posting.
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Seriously guys, there's been 6 in a row. You're duping comments now.
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Thankfully our repeats are already totally digital.
Anyhow, here's something I wanted to bring up in the other thread but as too lazy to do. It says that the new projectors download digital copies of the films from the movie industry. That's all well and good, but my favorite cinemas here in Dublin, the awesome IFI in Temple Bar and the huge megaplex UGC are both my favorites because they show independant and foreign films. In the case of the IFI, that's all they show, alongside older films that you won't see in the cinema anywhere else.
So what I'm wondering is how would something like Battle of Algiers or OldBoy be shown in Ireland if it's all digital? I actually don't think the IFI is part of this whole all-digital scheme and I'm glad they're not, mainstream cinema holds only the smallest interest for me, and I can't help but see this digital system as anything other than the big studios further consolidating their culture monopoly...
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But this is getting silly
1) Check for DUPES
2) If you link to a site, please include the coral link (this can be done programatically!)
3) If you link to a file, add a torrent (this is for the submitters, not the editors)
4) I have heard that joke before; lets see if anyone has something interesting to say
Karma be dammed, but this dupe really pissed me off
We'll take it from there.
Editors, what the FUCK are you being paid to do, exactly?
Run around modding all these "it's a dupe!" posts down.
its not like /. goes through hundreds of articles a day
No, but it goes through several hundred submissions. To quote CmdrTaco: "We get 500 story submissions on a busy day... and we post 15-20."
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i've heard this at least twice. i think at slashdot even. and i don't read other comments. ever.
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I know that they does this in sweden already. Maybe not all movies on all theatres though, but the-as-close-to-monopoly-as-possible-company, SF, does it quite a bit.
It's the classic lack of communication between the no-snakes-and-no-film department and the and-they-don't-need-to-ship-their-single-malts department.
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First of all, about 60% of /. stories are 2-day-old posts on either Gizmodo, Engadget, Lifehacker, or Hack-A-Day. I doubt /. editors even realize this, because they obviously don't get "out" very much.
But seriously. The dupes are out of control. It takes 10 minutes a day, max, to scan the headlines OF THE SITE YOUR JOB IT IS TO EDIT. Timothy obviously does not read this site. So WTF? Could we possibly get an editor that takes his job seriously?
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Oh great. Here comes an era of pixelated movies, snatchy sound and 'soory this movie cannot be shwona t this time due to a technical problem'.
I was away on vacation three days ago and didn't read slashdot. I'm sorry, this was all my fault. The kind folks at Slashdot knew that this would be the kind of story I'd be interested in, so they decided to post it again for my benefit. I'm deeply sorry.
I'm also sorry for Windows ME. That was my fault too.
And the DMCA, that was all me.
Oh, don't forget the war in Iraq. I pretty much caused that.
And when I told that guy 14 years ago that it would be a keen idea to advertise his product by sending emails to everyone, regardless of they were interested, that was probably a bad idea too. I know it was a really bad idea to convince porn website opperators to say they were free, when they really weren't.
In all seriousness, I'm glad to see a country going all digital. I was initially against digital in the theaters, until I saw a screening of Starwars Part One in Burbank back in '99.
A few of the colors weren't right, and I noticed a few glitches, but generally I was impressed with it, and thought to myself "You know, this is going to be good when all film goes this way".
Oddly enough, almost 6 years later we still don't have digital projectors in the vast majority of America's theaters, and we have to look to Ireland for adopting the more innovative technology.
IRELAND!!!??? Now, I'm half Irish, but I'm pretty sure my ancestors fled Ireland because it was a smelly filthy drunken impoverished third world cesspool. How do they manage to get digital theaters while us Americans are still stuck with brand new mega-plexes popping up every time it rains still using the old analog 35mm projection?
I should not that I'm writing this post completely under the influence of Irish beer, so you'll understand if I'm a little flippant and surly.
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from the no-snakes-and-no-film-and-they-don't-need-to-ship- their-single-malts:
Breaking news! Irish Cinemas goes all Digital!
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Slashdot going all dupe. New news will be delivered to you not only once! but twice! And if your lucky, maybe even 3 times on the front page!
But but.. this IS a dupe.
Ohhhh so its classed as a NEW news story because its from enn.ie this time and not the BBC.
Great job everyone!
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I thought we already had a Digital Cinema here in Almere, Holland?! Jesse//
God, that sounded dumb.
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Interesting?! That comment is funny as hell, not interesting!
Stupid slashdot moderators...
Do you realize the irony of your complaint. Your complaining about people complaining. I simply love it.
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Microsoft, afterall - they must have something to do with it... right?
Right guys?
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Yes, I complain about others who complain. Difference is that the dup-whiners complain all the time. Take my message as constructive criticism: instead of posting 50th message saying "this is a dupe!", why not let it be? What are you guys hoping to accomplish by posting 50 messages saying "this is a dupe!". Do you think I didn't notice the first 49 similar messages? Instead of wasting your time (and mine, if I'm trying to find some relevant comments in the midst of "another dupe!"-messages) whining about the dupe, simply ignore it. You are not required to read all articles on /. you know. Simply ignore the dupes, and your life will be much easier.
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But no! Some people get their panties in a bunch and start their crusade of whining. It's like they are mortally offended every time
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It used to be about the exciting geek stories but those seem to have dissapeared only to be replaced with dupes of mainstream news. As for the "comments" they've sucked since easily 1999. All you people do when you click this site is make those retarded editors richer for not doing much of anything, including read their own site. I for one am all set with this crap. I'll go read kuro5hin or some other discussion sites that I'm slow to post for fear they will just turn into this.
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That was such a misspelling tour-de-force that I can only assume that you're either a) educationally sub-normal b) American or c) a dyslexic who's too stupid to install a spellchecking service.
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People probably think that each time a dupe is posted, it takes the spot of a fresh and interesting news they'd enjoy reading and commenting.
Most whiners need to realize that if dupes were perfectly filtered by the editors, it wouldn't more more news.
bottom line : a dupe doesn't take a "new news" spot.
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I believe the Imperial cinema in Copenhagen started showing digital movies in the fall of 2004. The first movie shown this way was 'I, Robot'. Disclaimer: No plug here, just posting for the record.
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well it does....
http://www.artsalliancemedia.com/news.html
i wonder if it's using the same technology as Satellite TVs where theaters each get a card and which decodes the satellite transmission. Since it's only a receiver, there's no way to detect who else might be using the same card to receive it. guess it's time to get some connections with Irish theaters and start learning Irish.
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Yes, this probably isn't the correct forum for this but I subscribe to Slashdot and have been a faithful follower for too many years ... when I see a pre-release dupe I send an email to the on-call editor, sometimes it works to get the story banished before the rest of the world sees it (and the ridicule starts) ... sent an email about this story but it seems that it wasn't effective ... power to the peer review!
Had you used any darkskinned people nation rather than a white one you could have immediately been called out for being a downright racist.
Change "ireland" with "[insert newly created this week african nation here]" and see what happens.
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It's quite sad that the editors here don't even read their own site.
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Just because a company called "Digital Cinema Limited" had its first customer doesn't mean that customer is now the "first country in the world to have completely digital cinema."
Previous comments above have noted that digital cinemas have existed in other countries since 2004. A local cinema in Singapore reported that they were converting to digital cinemas as early as 2003. I highly doubt they're the only ones, too.
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I think that it is about time that we start trying to warn people of duplicate postings in software.
Something Awful forums warn you if a specific URL, or similar URL was posted. It then shows you a link to the thread(s) that have the URLs in question posted. After that, if you decide to post, we still have the editors to try to weed out the rest. This solution won't help when someone links to the same issue/story reported by a different company (much harder with syndication also).
The script/program would select keywords from the text, and then give a percentage that matched each article that matched. It would only be matching against articles that were X days/weeks old. I'm sure lots of other people have opinions on this as well.
Would anyone be interested in "Ask Slashdot: How do deal with the dupes problem?".
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I'd be more inclined, in this instance, to ask them what the feck they're doing.
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Current resolutions for digital cinema are not as good as good HD TV. You should never underestimate the resolution of 35mm film.
They are really rubbing everyone's nose in it, changing all their cinemas to digital twice in two weeks.
You shouldn't make fun of the dupes, the practice of linking directly to sites running on 286s instead of to caches of those sites, the poor writing quality, the bad sense of humor, or any other problems with Slashdot. After all, some people pay to see this shit before the rest of get it.
Considering the allegations that Slashdot is frequently getting scooped by Fark, I can understand their desire to pay for the Slashdot version rather than wait entire minutes from the time it gets posted on Fark until the time they can read the Slashdot version, which has been filtered by idiots for your reading agony. The dupes just help to ensure that every subscriber gets an adequate chance to get a first-post comment on every story.
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Really? I've been streaming video off tape since 1985 when I first used a VHS VCR.
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Instead of adding a torrent, just prepend "http://dijjer.org/get/" to the URL of the large file and hey-presto, it is now being distributed through Dijjer.
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We already have digital theatres over here in Belgium :)
http://www.kinepolis.bi/index.cfm?PageID=2044
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I just counted them in the morning paper. Thats about 2/3rd the total. We've pretty much already done what the Irish are proposing.
Is there anyone that can comment on the quality of the image on the screen. I have started to see digital projectors in South Africa as well. At the moment they only use them for ads, and then switch to film for the movie. My issues with the digital projectots is that the image brilliance (or light intensity) is far poorer then that of the film projectors. You can also notice the pixels which is far worse then artifacts on film. If this is the trend then I'll stop supporting cinemas. I only go for the quality image. Most of the time they mess up the sound system. If the image quality goes its no better then DVD with a home projector.
Maybe the problem is in the time lag between acceptance of a story submission and the actual publication. I don't know the details of the editorial process, but I imagine that several different editors go through 300 submissions every day. These submissions are then given a priority (publish today or during the next week) and pipelined. If the dupe is sitting in the pipeline before the original has made the frontpage, it is technically not yet a dupe. You could imagine a good dupechecker that also checks the pipeline, but it's a bit more work than "just search for old stories."
By the way, as a subscriber I can see the stories half an hour before they go live, with an invitation to report it as a dupe. It happens every now and then that the story is a dupe and disappears without the non-subscribers ever seeing it. The system of course doesn't work if the on-duty editor is having a lunch break or something.
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Digital, at least in its current form is a step backwards. Digital images are not as near as nice as 35mm film.
I stopped going to my local cinema when they 'upgraded' to digital as the pixellation/resolution is so bad it ruins the big screen experience.
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Get a clue pinheads. First of all Ireland is typically THE place to test new technology in Europe. Why? Highly educated, prosperous, multicultural (you will find a lot of americans working there), open to new technology.
It is small enough to push and test new technology through countrywide. You want to see where technology is headed - go to the smaller countries and take a look.
Every major American corporation has figured this out a long time ago and that is why they all have plants and offices in Ireland. Everyone from Apple to Zenith is there.
If Americans persist in the attitude that they are world leaders in everything it won't be long before weapons production, wars and neo conservatism is the only export left to bolster a rapdily fading, once great nation.
To the guy who made the third world comment - Where do you think this country is headed? Oil prices aren't rising the Dollar is falling like a rock. We are in bed with nations who would rather see us dead and are sucking us dry financially (see trade agreements with China and Saudi). We bolster rotten regimes and talk about spreading democracy.
We are held hostage by the worlds banks but the Asians are slowly selling american debt off their books. If America wasn't the biggest consumer market in the world WE would be the third world nation and nobody would lend us a dime based on our fiscal irresponsibility.
I hate to break it to you guys but the world is leaving America in the dust when it comes to consumer technology. It is only a matter of time when hardcore technology is all developed elsewhere as well.
3G networks years ago, HDTV years ago etc etc etc
We are the backwards inward looking nation. In short - Rednecks.
Don't you known that Slashdot bought some Quotes from Irish Movie Theatres?!?
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can we STOP calling those that actually work at slashdot editors please? if they were editors they'd have reporters that are dispatched to cover stories, not repeat what other sites are posting.
we can call them regurgitators, because all they seem to post is the same vile time after time.
You miss my point.... I just love the irony.
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I wonder whether this technology will benefit independent moviemakers. On one hand, it is far cheaper to make a copy of a digital movie than 35mm film, and simpler to distribute, so that independent movie theatres can get hold of copies more easily. On the other hand, I fear that the satellite distribution system might be controlled by the media giants who aren't interested in small moviemakers using their system, charging high fees.
What do you think?
Would it really kill the editors of /. to publically apologize on the website each time they post a dupe? An explanation as to how the dupe slipped by would also be appropriate to include with each apology.
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First Post Not About Dupe! Seriously guys, there's been 6 in a row. You're duping comments now. -- oh wait u said that already i guess i should have read the previous comment :-)
First of all, about 60% of /. stories are 2-day-old posts on either Gizmodo, Engadget, Lifehacker, or Hack-A-Day. I doubt /. editors even realize this, because they obviously don't get "out" very much.
But seriously. The dupes are out of control. It takes 10 minutes a day, max, to scan the headlines OF THE SITE YOUR JOB IT IS TO EDIT. Timothy obviously does not read this site. So WTF? Could we possibly get an editor that takes his job seriously?
"It takes 10 minutes a day, max, to scan the headlines OF THE SITE YOUR JOB IT IS TO EDIT. Timothy obviously does not read this site. So WTF? Could we possibly get an editor that takes his job seriously?"
Here is why slashdot editors post dupes and how to fix it.
Slashdot editors pick topics to post on the site from a vast pool of submissions. When recalling if a submissin has appeared on ./, they face the difficult task of distinquishing between submissions which they have previously read but which have not been posted, and submissions which they have previously read and which have not been posted.
When a slashdot reader detects dupes, he performs the easy task of recalling whether he has seen the same submission before.
So when identifying dupes, readers and editors perform diferent tasks. For readers, the taks of identifying duplicates is easy. For editors, the taks of identifying duplicates is difficult.
The solution would be for ./ to employ a class of editors who did not have access to story submissions, who only edited to detect duplicates.
IMHO abuse about how stupid/lazy/drunken the slashdot editors is unfair and misdirected. They have a workflow problem.
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I think the hope is that if enough people shout WE WANT YOU TO STOP POSTING DUPES then maybe, eventually, the Slashdot staff will actually start posting useful stuff.
It's to the point where I'll never subscribe to Slashdot, because it's not worth the $5 to me. I enjoy certain parts of Slashdot (namely, the games section), but I'm sick and tired of the crap that the editors keep on doing.
Here's the deal: Fix the website. Bring it into the 21st century and out of 1998. Stop posting dupes. Start posting things that aren't obvious ads or FUD. Then I'll consider subscribing.
Until then... it's just not worth my money. And I like the community here enough that I wish it were worth my money. And that's why it pisses me off whenever SLASHDOT DOES SOMETHING THAT PROVES IT ISN'T WORTH SUBSCRIBING TO.
When is the SlashCode getting updated with new mechanisms to detect duplicates?
I believe I saw that very same screening (not the same day of course) and I'm curious to hear more about the colors you felt weren't right and what the glitches were. I thought the quality was astounding. The technical quality that is.
The tonal range was incredible, titles and credits did not jump around and of course there were no scratches or dust marks. After seeing it I felt sure that theaters would be digitally projecting everything within a few years.
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It should be clear from the proliferation of "dupes" that the Slashdot editors don't often read Slashdot. So my question is: Why do you?
Nope, I get your point quite well, thankyouverymuch.
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i check my slashdot live bookmark frequently and have not seen anything on this subject. thousands of people including myself are seeing this for the first time. we might even comment on this news if it weren't hopeless to expect that any reasonable person with a life would trouble to wade thru all this self-aggrandizing bullshit.
Bollywood has embraced digital projection long time back. Check out this story at BBC Bollywood enters digital age where they were going to convert 400 theaters by April 2004. Maybe it is a first to convert theaters in the whole country to digital format but I doubt it will be. There will always be one independent exhibitor out there who would like to stay with his older technology.
This faq suggests the projectors are DLP 2K.
"DLP" (Digital Light Processing) is the Texas Instruments tech based on Digital Micromirror Devices (DMD).
A DMD is an array of small (10um), digitally controled mirrors etched in a chip-like package. Greyscale is produced by switching each mirror on and off thousands of times per second (yes, mechanical parts wear differently at that scale).
In single-DMD projectors, colors are created by spinning a wheel with coloured RGB sectors in the light path. Early consumer DLP projectors were plagued with the so-called "rainbow effect": the wheel was too slow (two RGB cycles per frame), allowing some people to notice the alternating R,G,B components.
Professional DLP projectors have one DMD per color channel in order to avoid the rainbow effect. But some users still feel that "something is wrong with the light" even when looking at static images. This is hard to explain since the greyscale scanning is much, much faster (kHz range) than persistence of vision. So it will be interesting to see whether an unusal percentage of moviegoers feel sick or get seizures at digital theatres.
"2K" means the resolution is 2048 lines, i.e. not so much better than HDTV. Eventually the industry will move to 4K, which some say is required to match the resolution of film. Will 2K movies be priced 50% (or 75%) lower than 4K ones ?
Bottom line: Expect lots of flamewars a la CD-versus-vynil in the near future.
But they have to spend all their time reading the statements from banner ad companies that run all those microsoft ads. How could they have time to make keep the community's interests in mind? ;)
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In Finland we have a 461 seat movie theater with digital projector (TI DLP technology). Movie is transferred in digital format. First movie shown using that projector was Star Wars Episode II in 2002.
I'm not sure about the current status of it, but at least I watched the abovementioned movie there.
haha funny how out of all the complaints about the editors, *mine* gets modded offtopic :)
More evidence from which to be glad I'm not a paying member of /. ...
So, I guess the Irish are a bit off-beat in their newscast. Go to this site for more info on Digital Cinema http://www.kinepolis.be/index.cfm?PageID=2044