But I would argue that if you've had complete and total success with all flavors of Linux package managers, then you haven't been using Linux very long.
OK, I'll bite. I've used linux since the late 90's. Package managers were rare in those days, so that puts a limit on how long I could have used one.
Our home net has been linux-only for at least 4 years - the last WinXP and Win2k machines were migrated long ago. It's been part-linux for longer, initially using SUSE. Today, it's all Ubuntu, apart from some bastardized linux distro on a Synology headless server, and whatever the printer/scanner/fax thing has inside it. For our six regular PCs (laptops & desktops, varying from 2 months to 10 years in age), it's Ubuntu, and we've yet to see any real issue with a package manager, even with a few unofficial repositories added and some commercial (paid-for) linux applications installed.
Even the 800x480 of a Nokia N810 is a bit cramped for normal desktop style window managers. I hate to contemplate what it would be like to use anything like them on the 320x480 screen that is the G1.
The answer may be in repressed nightmarish memories from your youth.
Didn't you ever run a PC with a CGA display in color mode (320x200), or try with a VGA adapter set to MCGA mode (=CGA with more colors)? It only sucks a little if your interface is designed to work with low resolution displays. If the interface was conceived with more pixels in mind, and just supports low resolution as an afterthought, then it really sucks.
Actually, everything sucked on CGA in graphics mode, including Windows 1.0 and GEM.
Are they going to block all IRC access as well? There are lots of files being shared via DCC send commands. I suppose some IRC servers might expect an increase in user numbers in the near future...
But don't you agree it's the best effort on their part to date?
Irrelevant. A best effort is not ipso facto a good effort. The scores of IE7 and other browsers on ACID3 and other tests for W3C standards compliance indicate what sort of result IE7 achieved. If that's the best MS could do, it's not exactly good.
IE7 doesn't measure up to w3c standards, but it's a de facto "standard" nontheless.
You said it: it does not measure up to the authorized standard. It is a substandard, not a standard. MS has deliberately and purposefully attempted to avoid/ignore the w3c standards for years, and is only now starting to mend its ways.
Being ignorant seems to be the de facto "standard" in almost every field of knowledge (only specialists can claim not to be ignorant). Which would you advise - that we to conform to the de facto "standard" of ignorance, or attempt to reach the authorized standard of competence in that field?
When a new sensor is thought to have greater accuracy or reliabilty than an old one, but produces data which are not entirely consistent with the older one, it does NOT prevent use of the new sensor or meaningful use of data from both sensors. One standard technique is to employ both sensors simultaneously for some time - in other words, the two data series would overlap for that time. If both series show a downward trend in ice cover, then the trend probably real, even if they always disagree about the level of ice cover or the rate of decline. Over a sufficiently long time, it should be possible to build a model to quantitatively explain the difference in readings.
Come on, guys. There must be a few PhD theses waiting to be written on how to reconcile these instruments...
I'm pretty sure that, no matter what, you can't authorize anything other than another human adult to act on your behalf.
It has nothing to do with authorization. It's simply a matter of initiating an action for the sole intended purpose of clicking the "I Agree" button. The cat in this case is merely being used as a prop to that end.
But what if the cat actually has a choice? The device could have two pads/buttons that the cat could walk onto, one for accepting the EULA and the other for declining it. In this case, the cat has made the choice, not the human enticing the cat onto the device. The human does not control the outcome, and merely initiates the cat's selection process. Presumably the cat makes its choice without understanding the consequences of the choice, or even that it was making a choice.
Let's call it Schrödinger's Other Cat: put the selection pads into a box, then throw the cat in, close the lid, and wait for a pad to be stepped on. Killing the cat afterwards is optional - you can't predict which pad it will step on, and it can't predict whether you'll kill it...
The vibrator idea is interesting, but the mass of the panels is a bit big, so a good amount of vibrational energy would be needed (probably more than your GF would enjoy). The solar panel structure might also need to be beefed up to endure vibration while deployed (it was folded and braced during flight/landing). And who knows what other effects the vibration might have - loud noises from the other end of the rover might not be a good thing...
If that's an attempt at Latin, it failed. In Latin, virus is in the fourth declension and its plural is virus (yep, just like the singular), and NOT viri or virii.
Of course, as an English word, the plural of virus is viruses.
Shouldn't they get charged with hacking the researchers faces off? That is kind of brutal no?
Violent mutilation, or maybe murder? That's mostly just a white collar crime with lenient "punishments" these days. To get into real trouble, you'd have to do something truly heinous, like copyright infringement. Oh wait, maybe they copied the photos without permission, or used them outside the terms of the EULA...
I like Linux, but you you want a easy for everyone to use pc, you have to go with Windows, or OS 10. I have installed linux before, but with newer distributions you have to have good hardware.
Your experience is probably not typical. In addition to the new quad-core PC and the server, we have three other PCs on the home LAN. One is a ten-year-old Dell with 450MHz P3 and ATI RagePro graphics, which has been upgraded to have 384MB RAM. It runs Ubuntu fairly well, and previously had PCLinuxOS (which is also a fine distribution). The other two are both five years old and run Ubuntu very nicely - one is a Dell GX with 2GHz P4, nVidia graphics and SB Audigy sound while the other is a Sony VAIO laptop with 1.6GHz Pentium-M and Radeon 9700 graphics, each with 1GiB RAM. They all work perfectly under Ubuntu, with all hardware supported "out of the box".
I have never had an issue with installing Ubuntu or PCLinuxOS on a PC, whether new or old. I have heard of misery caused by Broadcom wireless LAN cards, but not much else.
If you make quality people will buy it, if you make shit they won't.
Never a truer word was spoken.
The length of time is a question of morality, even 1 year is too much. But 95 years is sick.
Obviously, 95 years is far too long, but 1 year errs on the short side. If the state is to grant a monopoly, it should be long enough to achieve its aim (encourage creative efforts), but short enough to minimize the embarassment of condoning a private monopoly. In my view, the earlier idea (in the USA) of having similar terms for copyright and patent was an acceptable compromise. A maximum copyright duration of twenty years should be more than adequate, with protection lapsed earlier if the content is not kept available.
The market for computers without an operating system is zero, so nobody sells them that way.
Curiously, I bought one that way just a few weeks ago. It was offered with Vista-SomethingOrOther preinstalled, but the shop also sells it without Vista and knocks euro100 off the price (I opted for them installing a second 1TB disk instead of the discount).
Then you get to choose how to put an operating system on it.
Simplicity itself. It took about 1 hour for a largely unattended install from CD of Ubuntu 8.10 64bit (plus formatting time for the disks). This included getting updates over the network (we have a fast link). Ubuntu recognized and supported every bit of hardware, including the dual monitors on the graphics card.
Now how many people can actually do this? Oh, maybe 1%.
Don't underestimate people, or the ease of installation of modern Linux distributions. The majority of people between 15 and 50 could probably manage quite well, and a decent fraction of those between 50 and 70. Of those aged 70+, it might be 1%, I'll grant you. To get a PC connected to internet, no further configuration would be needed after installing Ubuntu.
Since I have a home LAN with server, network printer, and a few PCs, I had to do some post-install steps - add more users & groups (easy), configure NFS (not particularly challenging) and install HPLIP, which automatically found our network HP printer/scanner/fax and set up the new PC to use them. These steps would have been necessary on any OS, and would not have been any easier.
Personally I don't even remember if I had heard that this couple had been accused of anything. Now I will forever remember them as the couple who gave a flying fucking rats ass what was said about them on the second most pointless forum on the Internet, Topix.
I never heard of them either (and will, no doubt, forget their names quickly enough). I also don't give a rat's ass what was said about them anywhere.
But they obviously care if vitriolic untruths were spread about them in a public forum. Perhaps the next time one of them applies for a job, or tries to rent an apartment (for instance), that vitriol will come up in the google search. It is significant for them now and in the future.
So, they plan not to offer a product in rich countries, even though it would suit many of their customers better than the products they will offer, and at lower cost. Your explanation is that it's for business reasons. Business plan: ream your customers to the extent that they have money.
By your logic, why not just give the product away?
You attack a straw man of your own making (Microsoft logic at work, perhaps). My post neither suggested nor implied any such thing.
To use the climate change lobby's methodology, it must have been J. S. Bach's offspring that caused the increase. He was really cranking them out at that time!
This article, and the research it talks about, is nothing but bad science. Computer models? Tree rings? Proxy indicators? This isn't the internet we're talking about, people, its the climate. IE the temperature. And how do you measure temperature? Well, I use a thermometer, why can't these people?
We all know that, over time, layers of sediment build up, and so, by digging into the ground you are seeing the earth as it was some time ago - so why don't the scientists just use a thermometer to measure the temperature of the soil at different depths?
So they say there wasn't much sunshine that year, or the year you were born. Well, just bend over, and we'll stick this here large thermometer where the sun don't shine...
Windows 3.11 for workgroups is from the days when Microsoft didn't believe in the internet.
...or calculators. Try calculating 3.11 - 3.10 in any pre-Win95 version of the Windows calculator. No, it's not a "display issue" as Microsoft tried to claim: just multiply the result by 100.
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But I would argue that if you've had complete and total success with all flavors of Linux package managers, then you haven't been using Linux very long.
OK, I'll bite. I've used linux since the late 90's. Package managers were rare in those days, so that puts a limit on how long I could have used one.
Our home net has been linux-only for at least 4 years - the last WinXP and Win2k machines were migrated long ago. It's been part-linux for longer, initially using SUSE. Today, it's all Ubuntu, apart from some bastardized linux distro on a Synology headless server, and whatever the printer/scanner/fax thing has inside it. For our six regular PCs (laptops & desktops, varying from 2 months to 10 years in age), it's Ubuntu, and we've yet to see any real issue with a package manager, even with a few unofficial repositories added and some commercial (paid-for) linux applications installed.
The vision at Microsoft has always been to try and reduce complexity.
Alas, their hallucination has morphed into a very bad trip indeed.
The quote about "we didn't realise people would try and download it from the downloads page" is a classic example.
Who the hell mixed PCP into their acid?
I think of zero-g frolics, optionally involving aliens. If they make their MMO right, we can look forward to some interesting add-in modules...
Get the facts, you FUD-spewing Linux zealot! Downtime is good! It gives the servers time to rest!
In fact, you should not expect them to work more than 40 hours a week!
Even the 800x480 of a Nokia N810 is a bit cramped for normal desktop style window managers. I hate to contemplate what it would be like to use anything like them on the 320x480 screen that is the G1.
The answer may be in repressed nightmarish memories from your youth.
Didn't you ever run a PC with a CGA display in color mode (320x200), or try with a VGA adapter set to MCGA mode (=CGA with more colors)? It only sucks a little if your interface is designed to work with low resolution displays. If the interface was conceived with more pixels in mind, and just supports low resolution as an afterthought, then it really sucks.
Actually, everything sucked on CGA in graphics mode, including Windows 1.0 and GEM.
Are they going to block all IRC access as well? There are lots of files being shared via DCC send commands. I suppose some IRC servers might expect an increase in user numbers in the near future...
But don't you agree it's the best effort on their part to date?
Irrelevant. A best effort is not ipso facto a good effort. The scores of IE7 and other browsers on ACID3 and other tests for W3C standards compliance indicate what sort of result IE7 achieved. If that's the best MS could do, it's not exactly good.
IE7 doesn't measure up to w3c standards, but it's a de facto "standard" nontheless.
You said it: it does not measure up to the authorized standard. It is a substandard, not a standard. MS has deliberately and purposefully attempted to avoid/ignore the w3c standards for years, and is only now starting to mend its ways.
Being ignorant seems to be the de facto "standard" in almost every field of knowledge (only specialists can claim not to be ignorant). Which would you advise - that we to conform to the de facto "standard" of ignorance, or attempt to reach the authorized standard of competence in that field?
Now I can conveniently share my Windows_Release_BT.iso! Thank you Microsoft.
Now that thought might even motivate them to make it work with Linux...
When a new sensor is thought to have greater accuracy or reliabilty than an old one, but produces data which are not entirely consistent with the older one, it does NOT prevent use of the new sensor or meaningful use of data from both sensors. One standard technique is to employ both sensors simultaneously for some time - in other words, the two data series would overlap for that time. If both series show a downward trend in ice cover, then the trend probably real, even if they always disagree about the level of ice cover or the rate of decline. Over a sufficiently long time, it should be possible to build a model to quantitatively explain the difference in readings.
Come on, guys. There must be a few PhD theses waiting to be written on how to reconcile these instruments...
I'm pretty sure that, no matter what, you can't authorize anything other than another human adult to act on your behalf.
It has nothing to do with authorization. It's simply a matter of initiating an action for the sole intended purpose of clicking the "I Agree" button. The cat in this case is merely being used as a prop to that end.
But what if the cat actually has a choice? The device could have two pads/buttons that the cat could walk onto, one for accepting the EULA and the other for declining it. In this case, the cat has made the choice, not the human enticing the cat onto the device. The human does not control the outcome, and merely initiates the cat's selection process. Presumably the cat makes its choice without understanding the consequences of the choice, or even that it was making a choice.
Let's call it Schrödinger's Other Cat: put the selection pads into a box, then throw the cat in, close the lid, and wait for a pad to be stepped on. Killing the cat afterwards is optional - you can't predict which pad it will step on, and it can't predict whether you'll kill it...
Vibration was the first thing I thought of, too!
The vibrator idea is interesting, but the mass of the panels is a bit big, so a good amount of vibrational energy would be needed (probably more than your GF would enjoy). The solar panel structure might also need to be beefed up to endure vibration while deployed (it was folded and braced during flight/landing). And who knows what other effects the vibration might have - loud noises from the other end of the rover might not be a good thing...
That, or I have no clue what I'm talking about.
And wouldn't that be a first on /.
virii
If that's an attempt at Latin, it failed. In Latin, virus is in the fourth declension and its plural is virus (yep, just like the singular), and NOT viri or virii.
Of course, as an English word, the plural of virus is viruses.
Uhura in pants?
Much worse. Uhura with a beard and hairy chest...
Shouldn't they get charged with hacking the researchers faces off? That is kind of brutal no?
Violent mutilation, or maybe murder? That's mostly just a white collar crime with lenient "punishments" these days. To get into real trouble, you'd have to do something truly heinous, like copyright infringement. Oh wait, maybe they copied the photos without permission, or used them outside the terms of the EULA...
I like Linux, but you you want a easy for everyone to use pc, you have to go with Windows, or OS 10. I have installed linux before, but with newer distributions you have to have good hardware.
Your experience is probably not typical. In addition to the new quad-core PC and the server, we have three other PCs on the home LAN. One is a ten-year-old Dell with 450MHz P3 and ATI RagePro graphics, which has been upgraded to have 384MB RAM. It runs Ubuntu fairly well, and previously had PCLinuxOS (which is also a fine distribution). The other two are both five years old and run Ubuntu very nicely - one is a Dell GX with 2GHz P4, nVidia graphics and SB Audigy sound while the other is a Sony VAIO laptop with 1.6GHz Pentium-M and Radeon 9700 graphics, each with 1GiB RAM. They all work perfectly under Ubuntu, with all hardware supported "out of the box".
I have never had an issue with installing Ubuntu or PCLinuxOS on a PC, whether new or old. I have heard of misery caused by Broadcom wireless LAN cards, but not much else.
If you make quality people will buy it, if you make shit they won't.
Never a truer word was spoken.
The length of time is a question of morality, even 1 year is too much. But 95 years is sick.
Obviously, 95 years is far too long, but 1 year errs on the short side. If the state is to grant a monopoly, it should be long enough to achieve its aim (encourage creative efforts), but short enough to minimize the embarassment of condoning a private monopoly. In my view, the earlier idea (in the USA) of having similar terms for copyright and patent was an acceptable compromise. A maximum copyright duration of twenty years should be more than adequate, with protection lapsed earlier if the content is not kept available.
The market for computers without an operating system is zero, so nobody sells them that way.
Curiously, I bought one that way just a few weeks ago. It was offered with Vista-SomethingOrOther preinstalled, but the shop also sells it without Vista and knocks euro100 off the price (I opted for them installing a second 1TB disk instead of the discount).
Then you get to choose how to put an operating system on it.
Simplicity itself. It took about 1 hour for a largely unattended install from CD of Ubuntu 8.10 64bit (plus formatting time for the disks). This included getting updates over the network (we have a fast link). Ubuntu recognized and supported every bit of hardware, including the dual monitors on the graphics card.
Now how many people can actually do this? Oh, maybe 1%.
Don't underestimate people, or the ease of installation of modern Linux distributions. The majority of people between 15 and 50 could probably manage quite well, and a decent fraction of those between 50 and 70. Of those aged 70+, it might be 1%, I'll grant you. To get a PC connected to internet, no further configuration would be needed after installing Ubuntu.
Since I have a home LAN with server, network printer, and a few PCs, I had to do some post-install steps - add more users & groups (easy), configure NFS (not particularly challenging) and install HPLIP, which automatically found our network HP printer/scanner/fax and set up the new PC to use them. These steps would have been necessary on any OS, and would not have been any easier.
Personally I don't even remember if I had heard that this couple had been accused of anything. Now I will forever remember them as the couple who gave a flying fucking rats ass what was said about them on the second most pointless forum on the Internet, Topix.
I never heard of them either (and will, no doubt, forget their names quickly enough). I also don't give a rat's ass what was said about them anywhere.
But they obviously care if vitriolic untruths were spread about them in a public forum. Perhaps the next time one of them applies for a job, or tries to rent an apartment (for instance), that vitriol will come up in the google search. It is significant for them now and in the future.
The truth is: business.
So, they plan not to offer a product in rich countries, even though it would suit many of their customers better than the products they will offer, and at lower cost. Your explanation is that it's for business reasons. Business plan: ream your customers to the extent that they have money.
By your logic, why not just give the product away?
You attack a straw man of your own making (Microsoft logic at work, perhaps). My post neither suggested nor implied any such thing.
Using Windows is like walking through Middle-earth. There's a freaking wizard lurking around every corner.
and most of them are up to no good...
To use the climate change lobby's methodology, it must have been J. S. Bach's offspring that caused the increase. He was really cranking them out at that time!
Personally, I blame PDQ Bach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.D.Q._Bach I have all of his sublime compositions on CD, which must contribute to some extent.
This article, and the research it talks about, is nothing but bad science. Computer models? Tree rings? Proxy indicators? This isn't the internet we're talking about, people, its the climate. IE the temperature. And how do you measure temperature? Well, I use a thermometer, why can't these people?
We all know that, over time, layers of sediment build up, and so, by digging into the ground you are seeing the earth as it was some time ago - so why don't the scientists just use a thermometer to measure the temperature of the soil at different depths?
So they say there wasn't much sunshine that year, or the year you were born. Well, just bend over, and we'll stick this here large thermometer where the sun don't shine...
Windows 3.11 for workgroups is from the days when Microsoft didn't believe in the internet.
...or calculators. Try calculating 3.11 - 3.10 in any pre-Win95 version of the Windows calculator. No, it's not a "display issue" as Microsoft tried to claim: just multiply the result by 100.