His point is that a "scientific theory" has a more precise definition than the colloquial understanding the term "theory". In laymen's terms, it's an explanation that fits observed/observable facts. Wikipedia gives a more detailed description of the semantical differences in the opening paragraphs in the article on "theory"
Then he should have made it. At least you bring evidence (although Wikipedia is not the strongest source, but the reference you bring resonates with other sources) instead of insults. The convenient statement, Stephen Hawking, same page:"any physical theory is always provisional, in the sense that it is only a hypothesis; you can never prove it." At least credit to you for bringing an argument to the discussion. -- my new sig: If you believe it, it's faith, if a scientist believes it, it's a theory--
By definition, it's a not a belief, So is it a proven fact, or is it in some grey area between belief and fact?
I understand that much work goes into the attempt to prove or disprove the theory, and adjustments are made along the way as results are observed, and it is a remarkable job, but until it is proven, it is not a fact. So how is it not a belief? Perhaps because the believers are scientists? --
I'm sorry that you think a dictionary is such an ultimate authority. I'm sorry that you think an unproven scientific theory is such an ultimate authority.
Your idiotic attempt at an appeal to authority is noted. As is your faith in unproven scientific theory. I suppose that your name calling is a sign of desperation.
The only "belief" in science is that the universe behaves in a explainable fashion. The beliefs in question are the manner and circumstances in which the universe and the life in it came to the point it is now.
You can ask people to believe that the finely organized manner in which the universe, solar system, and the Earth operate happened by evolution, and I could ask people to believe that the houses they lived in evolved out of trees and the watch on their wrist evolved out of a sundial (which co-coincidently evolved out of a rock). Now why would you believe that your statement has any more validity then mine? Because a few animals adapted to their surroundings?
The universe does behave in an *explainable* fashion. Disagreement with science's popular *explanation* does not deny the "veracity of any and all knowledge", as you so eloquently put it.
If you wish to espouse epistemological nihilism I've seen your numerous comments on this thread, just because I'm dodging a flamewar with you (and I've seen your flamebait moderations) does not mean I promote the philosophy that knowledge is nothing and nothing is knowledge (a simplistic way of putting it). I can see from your comments that you are a well researched individual, but your obvious emotional ties to either the subject or something behind it make it difficult to take you seriously.
Let me assure you that I do not promote intelligent design, but on the same note I take issues with the unproven theory of Evolution being placed above the unproven theory of ID. Both are unproven. Are we now going to say that one theory is "less" unproven then the other? --
Trying to prove your point with a Yahoo dictionary entry is a pretty good sign of desperation. I'm sorry if you don't respect Houghton Mifflin. Perhaps Merriam Webster http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory would be more to your liking. Are you questioning the authenticity of the reference, or just stating your belief?
I do understand what is meant by scientific theory, but just because a belief is dressed up in big words and big ideas does not change the fact that it is a belief. Unless maybe you have indisputable proof you are withholding from the world? I'm not looking to start a flamewar (which often results from these conversations), but if you are looking to refute my statement, you'll need to do a better job then "He used yahoo, what a newb". --
While teachers should be allowed to teach what they please, they should not be allowed to impress their beliefs on others. While you may agree with the theory of evolution, please note a definition of the word "theory".
"A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment" http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/theory
Teach the information, NOT beliefs Unfortunately, a lot of the information IS beliefs. Each religion believes thier way, scientists believe thier way, and both bring "evidence" to the table. Both believe themselves to be correct. Both believe the others are foolish. But it is still beliefs. Just because you believe one way does not make that belief fact.
Why should a teacher be required to teach one belief over another? Either teach them both and let the student come to a resonable conclusion, or keep the whole thing out of the classroom.
Or better yet, if you want your child to understand things a particular way, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR CHILDREN!!! School is no substitute for parental guidance. --- *steps off his soapbox, takes his ball so you can't play with it, and goes home*
Actually it was an incomplete analogy. I should have brought attention to the OS being the same and that they are all phones with similar architecture.
That being said my adjusted analogy would be:
If you had a 2007 Mustang with 60 horsepower next to a 2007 Mustang with 300 horsepower, with a weight difference of 50 lbs, and the cars were identical outside of the engine and drivetrain, which would you call the lesser car in a performance test?
The only surprise is that the reviewer called it "slow" based on the mere fact that it's a 200MHz chip. Reading the full article. Try it.
One of Marvell's Android demos ran on their XScale Monahans processor, which comes in various configurations up to 1 Ghz. If I was comparing 200MHz to 1Ghz, I would consider it slow as well. 1Ghz compared to 0.2Ghz. One fifth the power.
=Obligatory Car Analogy=
If you had a car with 300Horsepower next to a car with 60Horsepower, what would you call the lesser car in a performance test?
Has everyone drunk that much of Steve's acid spiked Kool-Aid? I KNEW I tasted something in that sip. And when did slashdot start changing it's color scheme at random!?!
I'm on an Intel iMac with the keyboard with a brushed aluminum finish and I got shocked just posting this. I thought it was the "warming sensation" jelly that was spilled on my keyboard, but now I know better!!!
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Spore is not vaporware, I observed people playing it at Macworld yesterday. On a Mac. Then I went home and played Crysis on my PC. I shot everything on the screen that looked like a Spore and then died when I ran out of ammo. Dang Spores...
I can't remember if it was Mario Brothers on the NES, or Oregon Trail on an Apple IIe, but the first game that really got me was Final Fantasy 2 (4 in Japan). After that, there was no turning back. I sucked in Kings Quest, Quest for Glory, Zork, and the continued not-so-Final Fantasys that followed.
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*drools* GAMES!!!!! *more drooling and facial ticks*
01: I would sign law to force big oil to stop hiding the h20 car
02: I would sign law to force Area 51 to show off their alien collection
03: I would sign law to force the RIAA and MPAA to stop acting like retards
04: I would sign law to tax the rich on scaling percentages (bigger money, bigger percent)
05: I would sign law to keep credit card companies from forcing cards on stupid people
06: I would sign law to keep us from borrowing over and over
07: I would sign the lawsuit against my employer for carpal tunnel from signing so much law
08: ???
09: Profit!!
Once the band structures form, the researchers apply a commonly used gel that induces cells to form three-dimensional tubes." Please tell me the gel is not KY branded. There are enough three-dimensional tubes already formed by that stuff posting on/.
"Google appears to be reinventing Wikipedia with their new product that they call knol (not yet publicly available). knol? Wouldn't that be nypa? If not, they need to come up with a new acronym.
Do you get a lot of Sun in the room you play the Wii in? In general if I have those issues drawing the curtains fixes them ( sunlight screws up communication with the sensor bar). I second this. The pointer on the wii remote is functionally an infrared camera looking for two IR emitters. Add in the sun and it's reflections off of common household items, and you effectively have 5-200 additional IR light sources, causing all manner of twitchiness.
Breaking the law so you can watch spiderman 3 for free proves their point, not yours. There's a spiderman 3? Sweet! Do you have a torrent for it?
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I need to pay them US$60 a month to access my own damn modem. You actually don't. What you do need is a phone that is capable connecting as a modem through the computer, but often some third party software that assists with the connection. Previously having worked at Radio Crack (Shack of the uninitiated) I used to sell such setups, and then set them up in store. I wish I could remember the software package, but you definitely can connect a phone as a modem. Last time I worked there was 2 years ago, so they may not have the software, but typically what is available from the phone manufacturer is less this adequate for the task. Notably, most of the setups were with Motorola phones. - Don't rely on Verizon for hardware support between your phone and computer unless you want to pay them 60 a month. If anything, you might get further with the phone manufacturer
I'm assuming that the 73.1% using directx 9 means that 26.9% were using directx 10. If that's the case, doesn't this mean that vista adoption is higher among gamers, those who are usually more technically adept? If you had taken the 3 minutes needed to glaze over the Full article, you would have known that the Directx 9 SM3 is at 72.96 as of this reading, with Directx 9 SM2 consuming 12.6 percent. Direct X 8.1 accounts for 9.36 percent, leaving the "Other" category at 0.03 percent. DirectX 10 would likely make up a *portion* of this percentage, not the full thing. So perhaps Vista adoption is lower among gamers who play Half Life in thier underwear. This would make complete sense because people in their underwear definitely don't want Microsoft spying on them.
Link for the dynamicly lazy: HalfLife 2 Ep2 Stats
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Then he should have made it. At least you bring evidence (although Wikipedia is not the strongest source, but the reference you bring resonates with other sources) instead of insults. The convenient statement, Stephen Hawking, same page:"any physical theory is always provisional, in the sense that it is only a hypothesis; you can never prove it." At least credit to you for bringing an argument to the discussion.
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my new sig: If you believe it, it's faith, if a scientist believes it, it's a theory--
I understand that much work goes into the attempt to prove or disprove the theory, and adjustments are made along the way as results are observed, and it is a remarkable job, but until it is proven, it is not a fact. So how is it not a belief? Perhaps because the believers are scientists?
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I'm theorizing that you haven't read the entire thread.
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Your idiotic attempt at an appeal to authority is noted. As is your faith in unproven scientific theory. I suppose that your name calling is a sign of desperation.
The only "belief" in science is that the universe behaves in a explainable fashion. The beliefs in question are the manner and circumstances in which the universe and the life in it came to the point it is now.
You can ask people to believe that the finely organized manner in which the universe, solar system, and the Earth operate happened by evolution, and I could ask people to believe that the houses they lived in evolved out of trees and the watch on their wrist evolved out of a sundial (which co-coincidently evolved out of a rock). Now why would you believe that your statement has any more validity then mine? Because a few animals adapted to their surroundings?
The universe does behave in an *explainable* fashion. Disagreement with science's popular *explanation* does not deny the "veracity of any and all knowledge", as you so eloquently put it. If you wish to espouse epistemological nihilism I've seen your numerous comments on this thread, just because I'm dodging a flamewar with you (and I've seen your flamebait moderations) does not mean I promote the philosophy that knowledge is nothing and nothing is knowledge (a simplistic way of putting it). I can see from your comments that you are a well researched individual, but your obvious emotional ties to either the subject or something behind it make it difficult to take you seriously.
Let me assure you that I do not promote intelligent design, but on the same note I take issues with the unproven theory of Evolution being placed above the unproven theory of ID. Both are unproven. Are we now going to say that one theory is "less" unproven then the other?
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I do understand what is meant by scientific theory, but just because a belief is dressed up in big words and big ideas does not change the fact that it is a belief. Unless maybe you have indisputable proof you are withholding from the world? I'm not looking to start a flamewar (which often results from these conversations), but if you are looking to refute my statement, you'll need to do a better job then "He used yahoo, what a newb".
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"A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment" http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/theory
Teach the information, NOT beliefs Unfortunately, a lot of the information IS beliefs. Each religion believes thier way, scientists believe thier way, and both bring "evidence" to the table. Both believe themselves to be correct. Both believe the others are foolish. But it is still beliefs. Just because you believe one way does not make that belief fact.
Why should a teacher be required to teach one belief over another? Either teach them both and let the student come to a resonable conclusion, or keep the whole thing out of the classroom. Or better yet, if you want your child to understand things a particular way, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR CHILDREN!!! School is no substitute for parental guidance.
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*steps off his soapbox, takes his ball so you can't play with it, and goes home*
Actually it was an incomplete analogy. I should have brought attention to the OS being the same and that they are all phones with similar architecture.
That being said my adjusted analogy would be:
If you had a 2007 Mustang with 60 horsepower next to a 2007 Mustang with 300 horsepower, with a weight difference of 50 lbs, and the cars were identical outside of the engine and drivetrain, which would you call the lesser car in a performance test?
=Obligatory Car Analogy=
If you had a car with 300Horsepower next to a car with 60Horsepower, what would you call the lesser car in a performance test?
Tom Cruise declares war on the internet.
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He's gotta do something until the mothership arrives...
I'm on an Intel iMac with the keyboard with a brushed aluminum finish and I got shocked just posting this. I thought it was the "warming sensation" jelly that was spilled on my keyboard, but now I know better!!!
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404 - You have reached this sig in error.
Spore is not vaporware, I observed people playing it at Macworld yesterday. On a Mac. Then I went home and played Crysis on my PC. I shot everything on the screen that looked like a Spore and then died when I ran out of ammo. Dang Spores...
I can't remember if it was Mario Brothers on the NES, or Oregon Trail on an Apple IIe, but the first game that really got me was Final Fantasy 2 (4 in Japan). After that, there was no turning back. I sucked in Kings Quest, Quest for Glory, Zork, and the continued not-so-Final Fantasys that followed.
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*drools* GAMES!!!!! *more drooling and facial ticks*
01: I would sign law to force big oil to stop hiding the h20 car
02: I would sign law to force Area 51 to show off their alien collection
03: I would sign law to force the RIAA and MPAA to stop acting like retards
04: I would sign law to tax the rich on scaling percentages (bigger money, bigger percent)
05: I would sign law to keep credit card companies from forcing cards on stupid people
06: I would sign law to keep us from borrowing over and over
07: I would sign the lawsuit against my employer for carpal tunnel from signing so much law
08: ???
09: Profit!!
I refer to my original comment.
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I for one,, welcome our comdotslashcasting overlords.
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Act Now! Hamsters are standing by!
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If this is anything like a wet willy, I don't want one, and you can't make me.
*runs away screaming*
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Don't rely on Verizon for hardware support between your phone and computer unless you want to pay them 60 a month. If anything, you might get further with the phone manufacturer
So perhaps Vista adoption is lower among gamers who play Half Life in thier underwear. This would make complete sense because people in their underwear definitely don't want Microsoft spying on them.
Link for the dynamicly lazy: HalfLife 2 Ep2 Stats
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