If you google a little harder you'll find sites that say "Big Norm's" weight was 1,600 lbs rather than the 1,200 lbs you site from Answers.com. That just shows you that the site Answers.com is in error.
The other problem may be that you are asking the wrong question. Instead try:
I have read that pigs are related to hippos but my pigs are domestic breeds of swine, not hippos.
It is always somewhat ironic when someone with just a keyboard (you) tries to tell someone who actually is in the field what reality is like. You missed, probably again.
How large an animal is at slaughter has little to do with how large the animal can get and more to do with how large the producer selects the animal to meet the customer demand.
I raise pigs on pasture. A full grown pig is 900 to 1,800 lbs. I do not sell my hogs at full size. Rather I raise them to a weight that fits my customers needs.
For standard whole pig family orders that is about 250 lbs live weight.
For roaster pigs it varies from as little as about 20 lbs to 300 lbs with the typical oven roaster being about 30 to 40 lbs and the typical spit roaster being about 80 lbs.
For whole market pigs that I cut to deliver to stores and restaurants the size is more like 300 to 400 lbs.
Back to turkeys, when you raise them you can harvest them at 20 lbs, 30 lbs, 40 lbs or what ever size you like to fit you or your customer's needs.
Yes, we have been doing selective breeding for millennia to improve how feed efficient animals are, muscling, etc, but the selection of size has more do do with market demand and is done simply by raising the animal and harvesting it at the desired size.
If you would like a 1,000 lb pig just let me know. Realize they cost a lot more than the standard 250 lb pigs as they take a lot longer to get to that size and thus a lot more feed too.
Apple puts stores where there are customers who will buy their products. This includes various cities in China, Africa and other nations where the whites are a minor portion of the population. See Google Maps:
You don't know what you're talking about. Pastured meat is superior quality to feedlot meat. The taste of pastured meat is far better and the fatty acid profile is far better. The question of quality is not about mass production. The issue with feedlots is that it is contributing to global warming. Pasturing solves this. But you failed to put it together.
We also have plenty of land for pasturing. What we need is for people like you, who don't know what you're talking about, to stop building on land so it can stay in agriculture and nature. One of the things you probably don't understand since you've already demonstrated remarkable ignorance on this topic is that pasture lands are more bio-diverse than forest lands.
What would be nice is if all my Applications ran on my iOS devices and all my Apps ran on my MacOS devices. Ooo... We could just have a unified OS that adapts to the hardware. How radical would that be! Too bad Apple is vehemently against such simplification. I really want all the power of what ever machine I'm using without the different OSs getting in the way. Apple has created Babylon with all their different OSs.
Apple, under Jobs, did good with figuring out the niches and filling them appropriately. Now the rate of improvement in the niches has slowed dramatically because to a large degree of the focus on the highest selling product, the iPhone. Apple is making a mistake not to also keep those niches vibrant.
Actually this is already very doable without any need for GMOing or patenting life. It's called pasture with managed rotational grazing. Trees pull about 1.4 tons of CO2 from the atmosphere a year. Managed rotationally grazed pasture pulls double that and produces a side benefit of natural, organic fertilizer spread on the land by the animals and meat to eat.
I do my part. I take about 1,540 tons of CO2 out of the air a year, sequestering it in the soils, trees and meat. Everyone can do their part in some way. If everyone does that we'll solve 0.6% of the problem...
"I'm using iOS 11 right now, and it makes me want to stab my eyes with a steel wire brush until I get face jam."
A statement like that makes me wonder about the writer's sanity and qualifications. Perhaps he is the problem.
Our family has iOS11 on one device, being cautious of new upgrades, and so far no problems but we're probably just not pushing the wire brush far enough into our orifices.
What he is saying is sort of like claiming books and magazines failed because of ads or self publishing. People can filter out the dross. It's not hard and there are even plugins to help.
It is also not really appropriate to claim he is the inventor of the Internet which is a combination of a huge number of things over a long period of time which evolved from long before his work to today.
There are many different grades of stainless steel that trade off cost and specific abilities. Some stainless steels have strong resistance to corrosion (rust) but that can cost more and trade off other things like workability, strength, ability to hold an edge on a knife, etc.
One big issue is if you have the stainless steel item against another metal in a rust inducing situation the other metal, such as plain iron, may rust faster and leave a stain on the stainless steel. For this reason I space my stainless steel items apart or stack in the right order to not cause rusting.
"wood is lauded for its smaller environmental footprint and the speed with which buildings can be assembled"
This is something only someone very bad at math would say, or someone with a bias or agenda.
I do sustainable logging so you would think my bias is towards wood but I built my house, farm buildings and USDA/State inspectable butcher shop out of concrete.
The reason is that concrete has a far lower carbon footprint, lasts far longer, makes for far more energy efficient buildings and at lower costs. Both the short term and long term cost of my buildings are lower because of my use of stone -concrete is almost entirely stone plus a small amount of cement.
Wooden buildings don't last as long, don't have the build tin thermal mass of masonry (concrete) and cost more as well as actually having a higher carbon footprint.
Anyone who claims otherwise is hoodwinking you with their agenda.
I used to program. Now I'm 'retired' and I earn my living farming. I raise livestock and I design, engineered and built my own on-farm USDA/State inspected meat processing facility (a.k.a. a butcher shop). And I really do mean _I_ did it, not I hired it done. I do have more than a few acres (more like 1,000) but that isn't a requirement of farming. The fact that you think so shows how out of touch you are with your snobbery. Get a clue.
I used to do programming. I do real farming. I even built my own USDA meat processing facility (a.k.a., butcher shop) to process the livestock from my farm. I love it.
And no, you don't need a degree in Ag Engineering or Business. Perhaps that is one of the things that is attractive, not wasting more years schooling.
Of course, people who make this transition are typically very intelligent to begin with so that does help. Have a plan.
I mean literally, old programmers buy the farm as in I know a very large number of ex- IT / programmer / engineer people who have bought farms and live the 'simpler life' now. It is amazingly common. Common enough to become a stereotype. I'm one. I transitioned from a successful career in high tech to a successful, and happier, life farming.
It has indeed been a wonderful warm fall. They happen sometimes and we enjoy falls like this. I'm willing to give up a little bright color for a longer growing season and gentler weather. Realize that global warming isn't all bad. Those of us in the northern climes benefit.
We have used ASL for 30 years in our family - it's useful with pre-verbal children as they can sign before they can speak and it is useful in noisy environments like on the farm. Initially with the dogs we used signs in additions to whistles and spoken words - this is common with working dogs.
One dog keyed in on signs and adapted them so that she was able to use them back to us in her own version much like baby-sign is a take off of ASL signing. There are some things a baby can't do for signs (crossing the midline is hard) and there are some things dogs can't do (finger motions) but many things they can do.
Virtually simultaneous with that Yes and No started being used by the dogs to communicate back to us. This made it so we could ask questions and they could answer at the very least in Yes or No form. The understanding of language is greater than their ability to express in our pidgin so sometimes even now we fall back on that.
Once these two things happened it was like the breaking of a dam such that in the past ten years communications expanded dramatically both to and from them with us. They even use some of this with each other. They also use some of our English words although they have very thick accents. Once you cut through the accent and learn the signs even someone from outside our family farm is able to understand them. All told they use about 300 words.
They have a larger language than that of their own which we understand a little - I estimate their language to be at around 1,000 words in true dog as opposed to the pidgin combination of English, sign, whistles and dog that we use together. Compare that with humans who use 10,000 to 100,000 words. Pigs use about 30 words max. Chickens about ten. Ducks about six to eight words, I think. I know these species since we raise all of them on our farm out on pasture.
I suspect that things are quite different in a confinement situation or in a singleton situation like most dogs have. Our dogs have the benefit of six generations of pack to pass on culture and language. Most dogs get 'adopted' by a human family and isolated from their own culture and most humans don't spend all that much time working with their dogs in contrast to a farm working dog pack so this situation may be ideal, not something we'll see in most dog situations. Interestingly, some of the dog language that I have picked up is used by other dogs that have no contact with our pack suggesting some universality and thus genetic and instinct similarly to how some words in human languages are similar across many languages and cultures.
Note, the dogs, as far as I can tell, don't discuss deep philosophy or existentialism, etc. Communication is more about things that need doing, wants, predators, livestock, etc. They're farm dogs.
We have a large pack of livestock working dogs on our farm. I taught one to pickup trash for treats. Others observed this and picked up the behavior. One of them figured out how to increase the price by breaking trash up into pieces and getting treats for each piece. Doganomics.
This isn't a race you win by being first but by being last. First to finish does it at the highest economic cost. Last to finish benefits from the economies of scale that the early adopters create that drives down the cost of technology.
Equifax.com's server gives an error 500 when I try and contact them through their website. Is this them blocking people or simply more incompetence on their part?
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If you google a little harder you'll find sites that say "Big Norm's" weight was 1,600 lbs rather than the 1,200 lbs you site from Answers.com. That just shows you that the site Answers.com is in error.
The other problem may be that you are asking the wrong question. Instead try:
https://www.google.com/search?...
I have had many boars >1,200 lbs.
I have read that pigs are related to hippos but my pigs are domestic breeds of swine, not hippos.
It is always somewhat ironic when someone with just a keyboard (you) tries to tell someone who actually is in the field what reality is like. You missed, probably again.
How large an animal is at slaughter has little to do with how large the animal can get and more to do with how large the producer selects the animal to meet the customer demand.
I raise pigs on pasture. A full grown pig is 900 to 1,800 lbs. I do not sell my hogs at full size. Rather I raise them to a weight that fits my customers needs.
For standard whole pig family orders that is about 250 lbs live weight.
For roaster pigs it varies from as little as about 20 lbs to 300 lbs with the typical oven roaster being about 30 to 40 lbs and the typical spit roaster being about 80 lbs.
For whole market pigs that I cut to deliver to stores and restaurants the size is more like 300 to 400 lbs.
Back to turkeys, when you raise them you can harvest them at 20 lbs, 30 lbs, 40 lbs or what ever size you like to fit you or your customer's needs.
Yes, we have been doing selective breeding for millennia to improve how feed efficient animals are, muscling, etc, but the selection of size has more do do with market demand and is done simply by raising the animal and harvesting it at the desired size.
If you would like a 1,000 lb pig just let me know. Realize they cost a lot more than the standard 250 lb pigs as they take a lot longer to get to that size and thus a lot more feed too.
Apple puts stores where there are customers who will buy their products. This includes various cities in China, Africa and other nations where the whites are a minor portion of the population. See Google Maps:
https://www.google.com/maps/se...
You don't know what you're talking about. Pastured meat is superior quality to feedlot meat. The taste of pastured meat is far better and the fatty acid profile is far better. The question of quality is not about mass production. The issue with feedlots is that it is contributing to global warming. Pasturing solves this. But you failed to put it together.
We also have plenty of land for pasturing. What we need is for people like you, who don't know what you're talking about, to stop building on land so it can stay in agriculture and nature. One of the things you probably don't understand since you've already demonstrated remarkable ignorance on this topic is that pasture lands are more bio-diverse than forest lands.
What would be nice is if all my Applications ran on my iOS devices and all my Apps ran on my MacOS devices. Ooo... We could just have a unified OS that adapts to the hardware. How radical would that be! Too bad Apple is vehemently against such simplification. I really want all the power of what ever machine I'm using without the different OSs getting in the way. Apple has created Babylon with all their different OSs.
Apple, under Jobs, did good with figuring out the niches and filling them appropriately. Now the rate of improvement in the niches has slowed dramatically because to a large degree of the focus on the highest selling product, the iPhone. Apple is making a mistake not to also keep those niches vibrant.
Actually this is already very doable without any need for GMOing or patenting life. It's called pasture with managed rotational grazing. Trees pull about 1.4 tons of CO2 from the atmosphere a year. Managed rotationally grazed pasture pulls double that and produces a side benefit of natural, organic fertilizer spread on the land by the animals and meat to eat.
Save the planet - eat more (pastured) meat.
I do my part. I take about 1,540 tons of CO2 out of the air a year, sequestering it in the soils, trees and meat. Everyone can do their part in some way. If everyone does that we'll solve 0.6% of the problem...
Yes. My point. He's not the inventor of the Internet. Marginally more so than Al Gore but still not.
"I'm using iOS 11 right now, and it makes me want to stab my eyes with a steel wire brush until I get face jam."
A statement like that makes me wonder about the writer's sanity and qualifications. Perhaps he is the problem.
Our family has iOS11 on one device, being cautious of new upgrades, and so far no problems but we're probably just not pushing the wire brush far enough into our orifices.
Will these cars be rated to run 1,000 miles on a single standard D-Cell battery based on Volkswagon engineer testing?
What he is saying is sort of like claiming books and magazines failed because of ads or self publishing. People can filter out the dross. It's not hard and there are even plugins to help.
It is also not really appropriate to claim he is the inventor of the Internet which is a combination of a huge number of things over a long period of time which evolved from long before his work to today.
Compatibility and Longevity are huge issues.
The market right now is a bit wild-west with compatibility issues. Not fun for real life unless you're into wasting your time.
I don't want to buy things for my long term item (home) that are short term investments (sorry but your front door is no longer supported).
There are many different grades of stainless steel that trade off cost and specific abilities. Some stainless steels have strong resistance to corrosion (rust) but that can cost more and trade off other things like workability, strength, ability to hold an edge on a knife, etc.
One big issue is if you have the stainless steel item against another metal in a rust inducing situation the other metal, such as plain iron, may rust faster and leave a stain on the stainless steel. For this reason I space my stainless steel items apart or stack in the right order to not cause rusting.
This is not news.
Within a very large set there exists a non-null sub-set who failed to achieve activation.
This always happens.
Ergo it is not news.
"wood is lauded for its smaller environmental footprint and the speed with which buildings can be assembled"
This is something only someone very bad at math would say, or someone with a bias or agenda.
I do sustainable logging so you would think my bias is towards wood but I built my house, farm buildings and USDA/State inspectable butcher shop out of concrete.
The reason is that concrete has a far lower carbon footprint, lasts far longer, makes for far more energy efficient buildings and at lower costs. Both the short term and long term cost of my buildings are lower because of my use of stone -concrete is almost entirely stone plus a small amount of cement.
Wooden buildings don't last as long, don't have the build tin thermal mass of masonry (concrete) and cost more as well as actually having a higher carbon footprint.
Anyone who claims otherwise is hoodwinking you with their agenda.
You're quite the snob.
I used to program. Now I'm 'retired' and I earn my living farming. I raise livestock and I design, engineered and built my own on-farm USDA/State inspected meat processing facility (a.k.a. a butcher shop). And I really do mean _I_ did it, not I hired it done. I do have more than a few acres (more like 1,000) but that isn't a requirement of farming. The fact that you think so shows how out of touch you are with your snobbery. Get a clue.
"able to solve certain types of CAPTCHA with up to 66.6 percent accuracy."
That is a poor success rate and only on a subset of the problem. Cherry picking doesn't make it an AI.
"Real farming is much more stressful imho"
I used to do programming. I do real farming. I even built my own USDA meat processing facility (a.k.a., butcher shop) to process the livestock from my farm. I love it.
And no, you don't need a degree in Ag Engineering or Business. Perhaps that is one of the things that is attractive, not wasting more years schooling.
Of course, people who make this transition are typically very intelligent to begin with so that does help. Have a plan.
I mean literally, old programmers buy the farm as in I know a very large number of ex- IT / programmer / engineer people who have bought farms and live the 'simpler life' now. It is amazingly common. Common enough to become a stereotype. I'm one. I transitioned from a successful career in high tech to a successful, and happier, life farming.
It has indeed been a wonderful warm fall. They happen sometimes and we enjoy falls like this. I'm willing to give up a little bright color for a longer growing season and gentler weather. Realize that global warming isn't all bad. Those of us in the northern climes benefit.
We have used ASL for 30 years in our family - it's useful with pre-verbal children as they can sign before they can speak and it is useful in noisy environments like on the farm. Initially with the dogs we used signs in additions to whistles and spoken words - this is common with working dogs.
One dog keyed in on signs and adapted them so that she was able to use them back to us in her own version much like baby-sign is a take off of ASL signing. There are some things a baby can't do for signs (crossing the midline is hard) and there are some things dogs can't do (finger motions) but many things they can do.
Virtually simultaneous with that Yes and No started being used by the dogs to communicate back to us. This made it so we could ask questions and they could answer at the very least in Yes or No form. The understanding of language is greater than their ability to express in our pidgin so sometimes even now we fall back on that.
Once these two things happened it was like the breaking of a dam such that in the past ten years communications expanded dramatically both to and from them with us. They even use some of this with each other. They also use some of our English words although they have very thick accents. Once you cut through the accent and learn the signs even someone from outside our family farm is able to understand them. All told they use about 300 words.
They have a larger language than that of their own which we understand a little - I estimate their language to be at around 1,000 words in true dog as opposed to the pidgin combination of English, sign, whistles and dog that we use together. Compare that with humans who use 10,000 to 100,000 words. Pigs use about 30 words max. Chickens about ten. Ducks about six to eight words, I think. I know these species since we raise all of them on our farm out on pasture.
I suspect that things are quite different in a confinement situation or in a singleton situation like most dogs have. Our dogs have the benefit of six generations of pack to pass on culture and language. Most dogs get 'adopted' by a human family and isolated from their own culture and most humans don't spend all that much time working with their dogs in contrast to a farm working dog pack so this situation may be ideal, not something we'll see in most dog situations. Interestingly, some of the dog language that I have picked up is used by other dogs that have no contact with our pack suggesting some universality and thus genetic and instinct similarly to how some words in human languages are similar across many languages and cultures.
Note, the dogs, as far as I can tell, don't discuss deep philosophy or existentialism, etc. Communication is more about things that need doing, wants, predators, livestock, etc. They're farm dogs.
We have a large pack of livestock working dogs on our farm. I taught one to pickup trash for treats. Others observed this and picked up the behavior. One of them figured out how to increase the price by breaking trash up into pieces and getting treats for each piece. Doganomics.
http://sugarmtnfarm.com/2011/0...
It's quite successful.
This isn't a race you win by being first but by being last. First to finish does it at the highest economic cost. Last to finish benefits from the economies of scale that the early adopters create that drives down the cost of technology.
Equifax.com's server gives an error 500 when I try and contact them through their website. Is this them blocking people or simply more incompetence on their part?
Amazon, of course, is up to date with its liability insurance premiums...