Remember what the X in XML stands for.
Is something wrong with <div> and <span> for this purpose? Yeah, it's inconvenient. <sidebar> looks better and is easier to write than <div class="sidebar">. But you are right, this is disallowed.
"Does he have any fear of the Doors?" "Of course not. What an idea!" She was plainly startled. "It's possible, Mrs. Hanshaw, it's possible. After all, when you stop to think of how a Door works it is rather a frightening thing, really. You step into a Door, and for an instant your atoms are converted into field-energies, transmitted to another part of space and reconverted into matter. For that instant you're not alive." "I'm sure no one thinks of such things."
"Consciousness is part of the meaninglessness of culture," says Marx. However, the subject is contextualised into a that includes truth as a totality. Lyotard uses the term "the precultural paradigm of expression" to denote the genre, and subsequent collapse, of textual sexual identity.
Henceforth, in Port of Saints, Burroughs reiterates capitalist neocultural theory; in Junky he denies the dialectic paradigm of consensus. Sartre suggests the use of neocultural semioticist theory to attack class.
But von Ludwig suggests that the works of Burroughs are modernistic. Debord uses the term "the dialectic paradigm of consensus" to denote the difference between consciousness and class.
Nope, no checkboxes. But you can make your own Plasma theme by editing the rounded corners in the SVG. Should take about 30 secs. As for the widgetstyle, there already exist a few edgier KDE4 styles...
Skulpture,
Phase,
Quarticurve.
Well, again, if the only thing these things have in common is that they're "advanced", we don't wanna separate them. But you make a good point -- if a group of options can be actually categorized as related (e.g. "Window Manipulation") while still ensuring this entire group consists of advanced settings (yes, "Window Manipulation" options are rarely touched) then they should be put into a separate tab.
Ok. How should this be fixed without separating the advanced features from the standard ones?:)
Trimming down the advanced features comes to mind, but it's rarely feasible. The other thing is Firefox-style extensibility... we have a long way to go.
Okay now it supports Widgets. KDE has supported widgets for years, via SuperKaramba (which is bundled from 3.5 onwards). Plasma brings some innovation into the area.
I've heard claims they added support for OS X native widgets Not in the main branch, no. A showstopper for this is that it would require using the WebKit renderer, which still doesn't come with Qt (but it will next year).
When will KParts be upgraded to work like OS X system services? What do those have that KParts don't? Never used OS X myself...
Well, I can't say I object to any of these improvements, but most of them seem pretty minor and incremental. Sure, the single biggest change in KDE4 vs KDE3 is the porting to Qt4.
Where's anything we haven't seen on another OS/Window manager already? I won't compare to non-free platforms... from what I've heard, OS X's desktop environment kicks our ass in every way other than freedom. So, off the top of my head... KWin got compositing support, meaning you get eye candy ala Compiz, except with a more mature codebase. Plasma is technologically superior to others' applet solutions. Marble is the fastest and leanest desktop globe. KRunner is (will be) similar to OS X's Spotlight. Lancelot is unique as a zero-click start menu. The utility of this remains to be seen.
About the spellchecker, Sonnet, its main developer mysteriously disappeared an year ago, and development has been slow since. No grammar checking in 4.0, no. It does have improvements over the KDE3 spellchecker (KSpell2) -- like the ability to recognize separate languages in separate paragraphs and use the right dictionaries.
KDE4 is not just this RC. There's 2 years of development behind it, starting from the 3.5 branch. And there's lots of years ahead of it, to make the most out of a really solid foundation... IOW if you want "meat", come back for 4.1.
4.0 is for early adopters.
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I agree. Just some notes...
But those file dialogs and other GNOME widgets are just different enough from KDE to be irritating. KGtk lets you use KDE file dialogs in GTK apps.
the old debate about whether the "OK" or the "Cancel" button should be on the left QtCurve lets you use the GTK button order in KDE apps.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to set apps to use a certain type of widget, the way KDE has modified OpenOffice so that it's only partially inconsistent with KDE, and maybe even make it user-customizable on the spot? Not sure what you mean here. Are you looking for something like GTK-QT Theme Engine, which lets you use KDE widgetstyles in GTK apps?
Ark integration is a solved matter in KDE4's Dolphin.
The "kicker" (more correctly, "panel") theme you see is a) a far cry from the old placeholder theme that just looked like a smudgy piece of crap b) a demonstration of how easy it is to theme it (a single SVG), as opposed to KDE3's kicker which you can hardly theme at all c) probably an approximation of what it will look like in the final, considering it's consistent with the plasmoid theme, and it's what the chief KDE4 graphic designer thought up
The current Amarok 2 UI is simply an flurry of brave ideas and unfinished code, which is why it's called Alpha. Eventually a coherent distillation of what you are seeing will find its way to the final product. Namely, you are probably offended by the new left tabs (which are there to demonstrate SVG theming), the big empty central pane (which will host a range of functionality -- lyrics, recommendations, etc -- made possible by the integration with Plasma's technology), the CoverFlow-like pane at the bottom, dubbed CoverBling (which is a basic experiment and will probably move elsewhere), the narrow blue Playlist (which got a complete rewrite this summer, again allowing lots of experiments in there, for example you can see hierarchical album-grouping in there right now, which may or may not make it to the final) or the top toolbar (which has WIP art/layout).
Oohhkaay, where to start...
The plasma site is not the "main site", not to mention it's been unmaintained for more than an year. You're looking for the release announcement which is not slashdotted (it's a different server).
Plasma itself has been "included" in KDE since beta 1, which was in August...
It is not "completed" yet, either. It's still:
kinda slow
buggy (unreliable moving of plasmoids*, missing repaints...)
feature-incomplete (you can't even move the panel)
uses big chunks of custom code that will go away in a few months when Qt 4.4 comes
many design decisions remain to be done (such as, should scripting in langs other than JS be supported?)
Plasma is not supposed to be just candy, either. The idea (which it does not pioneer), is that:
Small atomic tasks (dictionary, feed reader...) should be presented in a flat, flexible plane where the human spatial sense can come into play
Everyone, yes probably your sister too, can create and distribute a plasmoid of some complexity (aided by frictionless copy&paste, abstractions like the DataEngines, and it-just-makes-sense tools like the Plasmagik packaging system -- think XPI)
KOffice 2 on Windows is running about as well as on UNIX now. I say in the KDE 4.1/4.2 timeframe (2008) it will become viable competition to OO.o. Some old screenies.
As for KMail, it's barely getting onto the KDE4.0 ship at all iirc. Too few devs. The Windows version is probably stalled.
Until now hearing "string theory" made me think of infinitely long, parallel strings that run through the entire cosmos. Then, since that seemed to reduce our 3 dimensions to 2, I thought every string had an infinite "resolution" as well, holding different particles/energies at different parts of it. I *think* A Brief History of Time used a similar explanation, but more probably I'm remembering it wrong. What the videos told me: "Protons are made up of something smaller, which doesn't look like a ball, but like a vibrating loop of string. This may mean the world is 11-dimensional." I was quite off the beat, then:)
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Ouch...
"Does he have any fear of the Doors?"
"Of course not. What an idea!" She was plainly startled.
"It's possible, Mrs. Hanshaw, it's possible. After all, when you stop to think of how a Door works it is rather a frightening thing, really. You step into a Door, and for an instant your atoms are converted into field-energies, transmitted to another part of space and reconverted into matter. For that instant you're not alive."
"I'm sure no one thinks of such things."
-- Isaac Asimov, "It's Such a Beautiful Day"
"Consciousness is part of the meaninglessness of culture," says Marx. However, the subject is contextualised into a that includes truth as a totality. Lyotard uses the term "the precultural paradigm of expression" to denote the genre, and subsequent collapse, of textual sexual identity.
Henceforth, in Port of Saints, Burroughs reiterates capitalist neocultural theory; in Junky he denies the dialectic paradigm of consensus. Sartre suggests the use of neocultural semioticist theory to attack class.
But von Ludwig suggests that the works of Burroughs are modernistic. Debord uses the term "the dialectic paradigm of consensus" to denote the difference between consciousness and class.
So there you go.
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Nope, no checkboxes. But you can make your own Plasma theme by editing the rounded corners in the SVG. Should take about 30 secs. As for the widgetstyle, there already exist a few edgier KDE4 styles... Skulpture, Phase, Quarticurve.
Not that I know of. BTW, KDE uses HAL now as well.
Well, again, if the only thing these things have in common is that they're "advanced", we don't wanna separate them. But you make a good point -- if a group of options can be actually categorized as related (e.g. "Window Manipulation") while still ensuring this entire group consists of advanced settings (yes, "Window Manipulation" options are rarely touched) then they should be put into a separate tab.
Ok. How should this be fixed without separating the advanced features from the standard ones? :)
Trimming down the advanced features comes to mind, but it's rarely feasible. The other thing is Firefox-style extensibility... we have a long way to go.
It's offtopic because he's commenting on the design of something which, get it, is not designed, just put together for a screenshot...
bleh... "whoosh"
yes, in respect to icon themes, the mimetype database, DBus and a few other things.
So, off the top of my head...
KWin got compositing support, meaning you get eye candy ala Compiz, except with a more mature codebase.
Plasma is technologically superior to others' applet solutions.
Marble is the fastest and leanest desktop globe.
KRunner is (will be) similar to OS X's Spotlight.
Lancelot is unique as a zero-click start menu. The utility of this remains to be seen.
About the spellchecker, Sonnet, its main developer mysteriously disappeared an year ago, and development has been slow since. No grammar checking in 4.0, no. It does have improvements over the KDE3 spellchecker (KSpell2) -- like the ability to recognize separate languages in separate paragraphs and use the right dictionaries.
KDE4 is not just this RC. There's 2 years of development behind it, starting from the 3.5 branch. And there's lots of years ahead of it, to make the most out of a really solid foundation... IOW if you want "meat", come back for 4.1.
4.0 is for early adopters.
Ark integration is a solved matter in KDE4's Dolphin.
The "kicker" (more correctly, "panel") theme you see is
a) a far cry from the old placeholder theme that just looked like a smudgy piece of crap
b) a demonstration of how easy it is to theme it (a single SVG), as opposed to KDE3's kicker which you can hardly theme at all
c) probably an approximation of what it will look like in the final, considering it's consistent with the plasmoid theme, and it's what the chief KDE4 graphic designer thought up
The current Amarok 2 UI is simply an flurry of brave ideas and unfinished code, which is why it's called Alpha. Eventually a coherent distillation of what you are seeing will find its way to the final product. Namely, you are probably offended by the new left tabs (which are there to demonstrate SVG theming), the big empty central pane (which will host a range of functionality -- lyrics, recommendations, etc -- made possible by the integration with Plasma's technology), the CoverFlow-like pane at the bottom, dubbed CoverBling (which is a basic experiment and will probably move elsewhere), the narrow blue Playlist (which got a complete rewrite this summer, again allowing lots of experiments in there, for example you can see hierarchical album-grouping in there right now, which may or may not make it to the final) or the top toolbar (which has WIP art/layout).
Plasma itself has been "included" in KDE since beta 1, which was in August...
It is not "completed" yet, either. It's still:
- kinda slow
- buggy (unreliable moving of plasmoids*, missing repaints...)
- feature-incomplete (you can't even move the panel)
- uses big chunks of custom code that will go away in a few months when Qt 4.4 comes
- many design decisions remain to be done (such as, should scripting in langs other than JS be supported?)
Plasma is not supposed to be just candy, either. The idea (which it does not pioneer), is that:- Small atomic tasks (dictionary, feed reader...) should be presented in a flat, flexible plane where the human spatial sense can come into play
- Everyone, yes probably your sister too, can create and distribute a plasmoid of some complexity (aided by frictionless copy&paste, abstractions like the DataEngines, and it-just-makes-sense tools like the Plasmagik packaging system -- think XPI)
* plasmoid = plasma appletKOffice 2 on Windows is running about as well as on UNIX now. I say in the KDE 4.1/4.2 timeframe (2008) it will become viable competition to OO.o. Some old screenies.
As for KMail, it's barely getting onto the KDE4.0 ship at all iirc. Too few devs. The Windows version is probably stalled.
No, nobody has stepped up to port Baghira to Qt 4. Its author has moved on to Bespin.
For anyone who hasn't seen it yet...
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I don't even know what to say; this is fucking insane
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Gotta love Slashdot...
Huh? What's wrong with the gifs?
Backend here probably refers to the custom JS framework they use to do the dirty work. I can see that getting faster.
Until now hearing "string theory" made me think of infinitely long, parallel strings that run through the entire cosmos. Then, since that seemed to reduce our 3 dimensions to 2, I thought every string had an infinite "resolution" as well, holding different particles/energies at different parts of it. I *think* A Brief History of Time used a similar explanation, but more probably I'm remembering it wrong. :)
What the videos told me:
"Protons are made up of something smaller, which doesn't look like a ball, but like a vibrating loop of string. This may mean the world is 11-dimensional."
I was quite off the beat, then