that means we should go after them, do some damage but never actually catch/destroy wikileaks, make it more popular with "commonfolk" in poor parts of the world, and kill hundreds of thousands of civilians in the process.
then, in a few years, wikileaks can release the wikigate docs, revealing the staggering civilian death toll caused by US troops in the quest to bring down julian assange and wikileaks.
we could probably tap the defense industry for some high-dollar, high-tech, high-fail-rate crap. and we probably need more security on the internet anyway, to combat the growing threat that wikileaks poses to the american way of life.
some may be paying more, or yours may be high depending upon what your storage infrastructure looks like.
are you on HP EVA or XP storage? IBM SVC?
or do you just use some basic gig-e SAN, or DAS/NAS?
let's start there, and then let's talk about how your storage works. is it tiered, is it smart, is it redundant? how important is some of the data? what type of contracts do you have in place? what is your storage plugging into, and how?
answer these questions, and give your question some context.
so we should expect to see yet more encouragement of people to take the easy way out and not behave like responsible human beings? yes. i'm totally ignoring people predisposed to obesity due to genetic ailments.
but really. now that we have this information (and great though it is), what are the ramifications? subsidized liposuction? do what you want, don't pay for it with your health (at least up front), and everything's cool?
i don't disagree fully, but the difference here is that it's a business. if someone came out and said here's a $2m storage array for your house(!), we'd all scream and laugh and point fingers.
since it's a business, and (especially in this case) the storage array in question is a basic and required tool for the business to function, it doesn't seem to make sense for them to skimp on it.
what they came up with is cool. but that's not the issue. the issue is yet another (in this case small/startup) company saying "we're going to do X!!!" and then realizing "oh, shit it costs how much to do X right?" and then saying "fuck it here's some hard drives*".
* can be substituted for pirated copies of whatever software, PDF creator when they need Acrobat Pro, or whatever skimpy solution many companies employ because they're not willing to shell out the $$ for the cost of doing business.
why should they have the keys to the city? who are they? what do you know about them? unless there are legal, binding contracts, NDAs, and more in place, why not require that they earn remote access rights?
also, if you are looking for someone to be your local net admin, why are you considering companies that will only do it remotely?
But do not think, even for a moment, that this gives particularly meaningful data on what a real Mars trip would be like!
i see what you're saying, but i have to disagree some. remember the stanford prison experiment? everyone there knew they were part of a study or an experiment, and yet they went well beyond what their described roles were, into some very dark places.
Properly controlling outgoing traffic is of crucial importance, particularly when dealing with such sensitive information.
agreed, but, (and i do not manage enterprise networks or handle security/compliance) as i understand it, the problem lies in some hardware or software being able to tell the difference between a connection that the user (or legitimate software) intended to initiate (or participate in), and a connection that the user/software did not intend to initiate or participate in.
even if you had human eyes watching and controlling every connection, that would be tough. connecting to a russian IP address from your Toledo, KS office? probably unintended. unless if it's someone in purchasing buying that SQL extension, or Outlook add-on, from that small Russian software developer. or a chinese IP address, with an encrypted connection? is it one of your designers uploading new schematics to the chinese fab company?
in talking with folks from the x-force (IBM's ISS team), enterprise networking, networking VARs, and manufacturers, the intent behind the connection is the hardest thing to program for in network security.
I have a much more likely scenario. They simply spread their malware everywhere
with drive-by downloads, phony system messages, work attachments from infected friends, lovers, coworkers, etc. just like what happened to a coworker, an above-average computer user for an IT company. all of a sudden he's got (literally out of nowhere) a new, very microsoft-looking anti-virus* (and considering that ms just came out with, or is coming out with a free fully-featured AV app, (which he knows, since he's in charge of enterprise software, including microsoft EA, etc.) he almost leaves it alone, until it asked him for $70 USD) that claimed to have found a nasty trojan that needed to be removed IMMEDIATELY or else the moon falls, internet dies, cthulhu comes a'calling, etc etc etc.
we've all seen the hokey web popups that claim to have found problems with your PC. this is just the not-new next step. which is all the easier to accomplish with software that you understandably *don't* want the user looking at...
* note: when i saw the phony AV malware, i, too, thought it was the new MS antivirus, until i poked around in it and found misspellings, grammar mistakes, etc.
(all you anti-grammar-nazis out there, this is why people bitch about it - it's very hard to take someone seriously when their thoughts are misspelled, unorganized, and give the impression they're representative of someone uneducated/irrelevant - imagine if you booted into AIX, or Windows, or were poking around in Excel, or your legit AV and were greeted with a screen that said "Weclome, user, our helps desk are for 24/7 hour service".....pardon the flamebait at the end please)
so, i tried this. i was a live Tor relay for one day. then i was banned from every IRC server i might want to use (except the one for Tor). and then, on the second day, Tor quit working.. bandwidth check, good. node publication, good. actually connectivity to the Tor network? nope. i use RR in north TX, from what i hear, they don't block Tor, but i don't have any other explanations.
i'd love to help... it's just not working out. i'm open to possible solutions, or alternatives, though.
then i think you and i are going to end up arguing over how far back to look in what we consider relevant historical context. you did fail to address china, though if 2 decades is too old, then i see why. also, have a look at this. it's easy to see, it's impossible for russia to be considered anything but second world, as the classification was come up with in the cold war to differentiate between us/allies and russia/allies and everyone else. if you look at the differentiater being the IMF's classification, then i would likely disagree with you, but that's likely a whole different little debate. anyway, i'm sure that you have the typical slashdot belief that i'm a naive, asleep american, since i won't jump immediately on board the america-is-the-worst bandwagon, which is too bad.
first, i'm very disappointed, angry, saddened, and frustrated by what has happened and what is now happening. i'd very much like to help, but besides setting up rogue dns servers, or distributing pre-filled hosts.txt files (both of which could easily be stopped, if they're not already), i have no clue what sort of advice to offer besides don't trust anyone, encrypt everything, and speak in whispers (online and off) until you're ready to pay for what you have to say.
second, should we really be offering advice in such a public place? if an iranian national can get to slashdot, so can iranian intelligence, or whoever it is that's actually imposing this oppression. there's not even any way to verify this person's identity, it could be some young iranian, supportive of the police state, trying to do his part to silence the dissenters.
no, i'm sorry, i think i'd have to say that we shouldn't be saying anything of any real value, besides "i'm sorry". i hope you are able to figure this out on your own. my only advice is to move slowly, quietly, and deliberately. and good luck.
For starters, you need to learn that Americans have the most violent culture of any first world country.
sorry, while i don't disagree with most of what you said, comparing america's psuedo- (support-lacking, factually-questionable, extremist-spouting, media-driven) imperialist agenda with recent cultures like russia/ussr, britain any time in the 19th and 20th centuries (until possibly around the 50s), and a few others (china, many nations in western and central africa) won't cut it without any proof.
i too am an american, and i think our nation has done some horrible things (which includes you, me, and every individual like us). but to compare the united states to countries (or even actual empires) that will massacre for the crown/motherland seems ludicrous.
some things may not be a good candidate for virtualization. ESPECIALLY in a virtualization client that loads ON TOP OF AN OS.
i'm wondering where they got their performance expectations from. FTFA, they didn't buy the vmware tools that would give them the performance and capabilities they desired.
so, to sum it up, they virtualized an application or applications they possibly shouldn't have. they didn't pay for the set of tools that would have given them the best shot of acheiving their virtualization goals, and instead used what was quite possibly the worst tool for the job. now they're complaining about it, and pointing out how (apparently) just running a single OS on the servers, with multiple application instances.
what a waste of time. this is not news. don't use wireload or yippiemove. they, according to their own words in TFA, don't have a clue what they're doing.
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not al-qaeda and the taliban.
that means we should go after them, do some damage but never actually catch/destroy wikileaks, make it more popular with "commonfolk" in poor parts of the world, and kill hundreds of thousands of civilians in the process.
then, in a few years, wikileaks can release the wikigate docs, revealing the staggering civilian death toll caused by US troops in the quest to bring down julian assange and wikileaks.
we could probably tap the defense industry for some high-dollar, high-tech, high-fail-rate crap. and we probably need more security on the internet anyway, to combat the growing threat that wikileaks poses to the american way of life.
international overnight it somewhere crazy, preferably to friends, and they do the same somewhere else, and so on, and so forth.
it's really not a fair question.
some may be paying more, or yours may be high depending upon what your storage infrastructure looks like.
are you on HP EVA or XP storage? IBM SVC?
or do you just use some basic gig-e SAN, or DAS/NAS?
let's start there, and then let's talk about how your storage works. is it tiered, is it smart, is it redundant? how important is some of the data? what type of contracts do you have in place? what is your storage plugging into, and how?
answer these questions, and give your question some context.
And then there's the fee for adding on the fees...
actually, i've had some success having this fee waived. you just have to have a little patience, and be lucky enough to speak to a supervisor.
come on, these airlines are reasonable...
this is about the most donotwant that i've seen in a while.
so we should expect to see yet more encouragement of people to take the easy way out and not behave like responsible human beings? yes. i'm totally ignoring people predisposed to obesity due to genetic ailments. but really. now that we have this information (and great though it is), what are the ramifications? subsidized liposuction? do what you want, don't pay for it with your health (at least up front), and everything's cool?
i don't disagree fully, but the difference here is that it's a business. if someone came out and said here's a $2m storage array for your house(!), we'd all scream and laugh and point fingers.
since it's a business, and (especially in this case) the storage array in question is a basic and required tool for the business to function, it doesn't seem to make sense for them to skimp on it.
what they came up with is cool. but that's not the issue. the issue is yet another (in this case small/startup) company saying "we're going to do X!!!" and then realizing "oh, shit it costs how much to do X right?" and then saying "fuck it here's some hard drives*".
* can be substituted for pirated copies of whatever software, PDF creator when they need Acrobat Pro, or whatever skimpy solution many companies employ because they're not willing to shell out the $$ for the cost of doing business.
who's taking bets on how long it takes them to bight the bullet and shell out the cash for a netapp, emc, ibm, hp or other true SAN?
there are reasons that companies pay large sums of money for them. it's not because the *can* or because the *want to*.
one day they'll realize this.
why should they have the keys to the city? who are they? what do you know about them? unless there are legal, binding contracts, NDAs, and more in place, why not require that they earn remote access rights?
also, if you are looking for someone to be your local net admin, why are you considering companies that will only do it remotely?
But do not think, even for a moment, that this gives particularly meaningful data on what a real Mars trip would be like!
i see what you're saying, but i have to disagree some. remember the stanford prison experiment? everyone there knew they were part of a study or an experiment, and yet they went well beyond what their described roles were, into some very dark places.
i see what you did there
10k- and 15k-RPM spindle speeds have migrated from SCSI to Serial Attached SCSI and SATA, and ~5k- and 7k-RPM speeds have migrated from PATA to SATA
FTFY.
Properly controlling outgoing traffic is of crucial importance, particularly when dealing with such sensitive information.
agreed, but, (and i do not manage enterprise networks or handle security/compliance) as i understand it, the problem lies in some hardware or software being able to tell the difference between a connection that the user (or legitimate software) intended to initiate (or participate in), and a connection that the user/software did not intend to initiate or participate in.
even if you had human eyes watching and controlling every connection, that would be tough. connecting to a russian IP address from your Toledo, KS office? probably unintended. unless if it's someone in purchasing buying that SQL extension, or Outlook add-on, from that small Russian software developer. or a chinese IP address, with an encrypted connection? is it one of your designers uploading new schematics to the chinese fab company?
in talking with folks from the x-force (IBM's ISS team), enterprise networking, networking VARs, and manufacturers, the intent behind the connection is the hardest thing to program for in network security.
I have a much more likely scenario. They simply spread their malware everywhere
with drive-by downloads, phony system messages, work attachments from infected friends, lovers, coworkers, etc. just like what happened to a coworker, an above-average computer user for an IT company. all of a sudden he's got (literally out of nowhere) a new, very microsoft-looking anti-virus* (and considering that ms just came out with, or is coming out with a free fully-featured AV app, (which he knows, since he's in charge of enterprise software, including microsoft EA, etc.) he almost leaves it alone, until it asked him for $70 USD) that claimed to have found a nasty trojan that needed to be removed IMMEDIATELY or else the moon falls, internet dies, cthulhu comes a'calling, etc etc etc.
we've all seen the hokey web popups that claim to have found problems with your PC. this is just the not-new next step. which is all the easier to accomplish with software that you understandably *don't* want the user looking at...
* note: when i saw the phony AV malware, i, too, thought it was the new MS antivirus, until i poked around in it and found misspellings, grammar mistakes, etc. (all you anti-grammar-nazis out there, this is why people bitch about it - it's very hard to take someone seriously when their thoughts are misspelled, unorganized, and give the impression they're representative of someone uneducated/irrelevant - imagine if you booted into AIX, or Windows, or were poking around in Excel, or your legit AV and were greeted with a screen that said "Weclome, user, our helps desk are for 24/7 hour service".....pardon the flamebait at the end please)
Support them by becoming a Tor relay
so, i tried this. i was a live Tor relay for one day. then i was banned from every IRC server i might want to use (except the one for Tor). and then, on the second day, Tor quit working.. bandwidth check, good. node publication, good. actually connectivity to the Tor network? nope. i use RR in north TX, from what i hear, they don't block Tor, but i don't have any other explanations.
i'd love to help... it's just not working out. i'm open to possible solutions, or alternatives, though.
...people do that?
people do that?
then i think you and i are going to end up arguing over how far back to look in what we consider relevant historical context. you did fail to address china, though if 2 decades is too old, then i see why. also, have a look at this. it's easy to see, it's impossible for russia to be considered anything but second world, as the classification was come up with in the cold war to differentiate between us/allies and russia/allies and everyone else. if you look at the differentiater being the IMF's classification, then i would likely disagree with you, but that's likely a whole different little debate. anyway, i'm sure that you have the typical slashdot belief that i'm a naive, asleep american, since i won't jump immediately on board the america-is-the-worst bandwagon, which is too bad.
first, i'm very disappointed, angry, saddened, and frustrated by what has happened and what is now happening. i'd very much like to help, but besides setting up rogue dns servers, or distributing pre-filled hosts.txt files (both of which could easily be stopped, if they're not already), i have no clue what sort of advice to offer besides don't trust anyone, encrypt everything, and speak in whispers (online and off) until you're ready to pay for what you have to say.
second, should we really be offering advice in such a public place? if an iranian national can get to slashdot, so can iranian intelligence, or whoever it is that's actually imposing this oppression. there's not even any way to verify this person's identity, it could be some young iranian, supportive of the police state, trying to do his part to silence the dissenters.
no, i'm sorry, i think i'd have to say that we shouldn't be saying anything of any real value, besides "i'm sorry". i hope you are able to figure this out on your own. my only advice is to move slowly, quietly, and deliberately. and good luck.
For starters, you need to learn that Americans have the most violent culture of any first world country.
sorry, while i don't disagree with most of what you said, comparing america's psuedo- (support-lacking, factually-questionable, extremist-spouting, media-driven) imperialist agenda with recent cultures like russia/ussr, britain any time in the 19th and 20th centuries (until possibly around the 50s), and a few others (china, many nations in western and central africa) won't cut it without any proof.
i too am an american, and i think our nation has done some horrible things (which includes you, me, and every individual like us). but to compare the united states to countries (or even actual empires) that will massacre for the crown/motherland seems ludicrous.
get a grip and try again.
We will probably wait until we are out of beta before we attempt to submit a story to slashdot again ourselves.
don't worry about it. when you're on v2.2, and everyone knows about netalyzr, the original submission will be accepted and posted to the front page :)
RIAA: "Fix what?"
yeah, the subject's too complex for simple.wikipedia.org, unfortunately :(
some things may not be a good candidate for virtualization. ESPECIALLY in a virtualization client that loads ON TOP OF AN OS.
i'm wondering where they got their performance expectations from. FTFA, they didn't buy the vmware tools that would give them the performance and capabilities they desired.
so, to sum it up, they virtualized an application or applications they possibly shouldn't have. they didn't pay for the set of tools that would have given them the best shot of acheiving their virtualization goals, and instead used what was quite possibly the worst tool for the job. now they're complaining about it, and pointing out how (apparently) just running a single OS on the servers, with multiple application instances.
what a waste of time. this is not news. don't use wireload or yippiemove. they, according to their own words in TFA, don't have a clue what they're doing.
condor, is that you?