What is the real difference between this and Nokia 9500? One that I can think of is availability - 9500 is on the market, at half the price of S101, which in turn look like a marketing prototype. 9500 has WLAN, EDGE, GPRS, BT, IrDA, ability to do IMAP/POP mail, Opera browser, m$ doc support (although rudimentary) I dont see the point of S101 as it isnt any lighter or smaller than 9500. OK, it runs Linux, but so what, using keyboard that small is excercise in futillity anyway.. What it has as a big plus is touchscreen, 9500 has navigation pad that is painfull to use in browser.
so WHEN it comes to market, it will have its little advantages, but compared to 9500 and with bigger price, I doubt it can make nothing more than a cameo appearance on the market..
I doubt that getting the existing PC hardware into existing MacMini box is going to work, at least a bit of customization regarding shape of the MB will be required. But still, once this market is open, there will be succesfull copies. OTOH, iPod is on the market for quite a long time, and there are no real alternatives to it..
Ok, but how long will we have to wait before there are MM-copycat designs out there, with lower price point and PC hardware in them? When iMac came to the market we had bloody iEverything in transparent plastic, including toasters, and all that in a few months. I doubt that MM will become more than an niche market gizmo, like it already is..
I know, I used it here, since not all the world has broadband Internet, or even Internet, in some obscure places.. But the point I was trying to make is that HAM should be considered in the way math is considered in the education process.. more or less every University educated engineer should know the basics, and have some hands-on experience even. It makes you *understand* how communications work.
Is it only me who considers HAM, and radio comms in general as the foundation behind Internet.. after all be it air and EM radiation or good old copper, only difference is how you use it to get some data from point A to point B.
even TCP/IP would theoretically work using smoke signaling, it would be slow, but it can be done...
Am I the only one who has a problem with the closed hull? From my experience, if you try to sail in poor weather, the last thing you need is not being able to see the horizon. Being violently sick is not one of the options on a warship...
Hm, in my opinion ngage is too bulky, in order to change a card you have to open the phone and take the battery out, and the screen is too small. and there is that small thing about the way you have to talk when you use it as a phone.. - http://www.sidetalking.com/
Ok, I know there is always a risk of sounding like a n advocate, but I agree with/. on this. This is a tipical example of a story that has to be put up, because if it weren't people would complain along the lines of "CNN has and where were you?" So either way, if you are in the news business, you have to put it on your site, whether you like it or not.
Granted, but if replacement ink differs greately from original, there is only so much tweaking you can do. And from my experience, there is a lot of low quality ink in those cartridges that can really mess up your nozzles..
One is the fact that ink is too expensive, and manufacturers know that. Price of really cheap printers is intentionally as low as it can be, and by using proprietary ink cartridges, manufacturers are only protecting their investment. They sold you a cheap printer, and hope to get their money back on cartridges. It's not just the cartridges. Ever wondered why most of the printers are shipped without printer cable? A printer cable can cost as much as $25 for a 3m cable, and yet the real price of the cable must be under $1 in bulk. Talking about profit...
The other side has it with print quality. Printer HAS to know, because of the way it's designed, what kind of ink is in the cartridge. Electronics has to be able to direct correct amount of ink at the right time. Replacement ink usually has different physical properties (boiling point, composition, amount of pigment), and the printer has no way of detecting what really got through to paper surface. So with different cartridges you will get different quality and even different colors on paper.
Is Continuous Ink System another name for the inconvenient and inherently ugly hack where you put syringe connected to a bottle outside of the printer? I have tested one such solution, and it was anything but portable. It depended on printer being able to support it, worked only on some models, and required modifications involving cutting a hole on one side of printer, so the tubes could get through. It did work however, but it is not a solution I would recommend for faint of heart..
OTOH, while googling, I found
http://www.eddiem.com/photo/CIS/cis.htm
with a mightly ugly home made CIS hack, and some usefully info on cartridge chips..
It probably was good old Joystick.. Moon is practically around the corner compared to Mars. I think there is a couple of seconds delay in signal propagation, that's all..
Isn't it that almost all new Intel boardh have diagnostic LEDs? SCB2 (old MB for dual-PIII) does. And not only for memory but for CPUs and some other parts of the board, if I remember correctly. Quite a usefull thing really, saved me a lot of trouble when one DIMM went bad..
SPV sux. period. I work as a journalist in Croatian IT magazine, and I had to review SPV when it was available on this part of the market. Come to think of it, it never was available to general public, it was review only, they later decided not to go public. Anyway, phone sux. I had more than a few phones in my hands and this is the only one to have "busy icon" as an almost constant feature. And it kept crashing after around 30% of the calls. OTA updates are dependant on the operator making them available, and I dont think that an average phone user is used to having to constantly be on the lookout for new patches.
You could be wrong. I had experience with HP 5500 hdn, it runs around 4K, if I am not mistaken. (I am not from states, prices are diferent here). When we had it for testing it could print arounf 14-15 ppm color, and around 17 b/w. Add to that 10gigs of HDD inside standard for that model, and not a bad idea for any network printer.
5500 can also print on A3 sized papers, duplex.
OTOH, print quality is better on Epson, but comparable model is much more expensive if you go with that.
Ok this is all nice and well, but who says that record companies wont once again gang up on customers and try to force a decision on retailers? market works only if there is no monopoly or price fixing. and current prices of new CDs and DVDs havent come down much, like they would if it were a trully free market.
People here use following hardware, and it seems that it works quite well: Sony EditStation ES-3 Dual PIII 500 Asus P2BDS 128Mb RAM 6 x 18G Cheetah Seagate HDDs 8Gb Fujitsu HDD for system Matrox G400 DualHead 2x ADI G66 for display Adaptec 2940 PCI (second SCSI) With that they use appropriate VCRs (DVCam, Betacam SP, Betacam DX) It is probably as high end as a private production can get. Funny thing is that dual SCSI rig. Price tag is around $80k US.
Right, but how? I know that everybody here really wants to stop this kind of cheap win-whatever hardware, be it modems, printers or something else, but how?
Isnt petitioning the only way to tell the vendors that we dont want cheap hardware that may or may not work, but in which price comes after quality?
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What is the real difference between this and Nokia 9500? One that I can think of is availability - 9500 is on the market, at half the price of S101, which in turn look like a marketing prototype. 9500 has WLAN, EDGE, GPRS, BT, IrDA, ability to do IMAP/POP mail, Opera browser, m$ doc support (although rudimentary)
I dont see the point of S101 as it isnt any lighter or smaller than 9500. OK, it runs Linux, but so what, using keyboard that small is excercise in futillity anyway..
What it has as a big plus is touchscreen, 9500 has navigation pad that is painfull to use in browser.
so WHEN it comes to market, it will have its little advantages, but compared to 9500 and with bigger price, I doubt it can make nothing more than a cameo appearance on the market..
I doubt that getting the existing PC hardware into existing MacMini box is going to work, at least a bit of customization regarding shape of the MB will be required. But still, once this market is open, there will be succesfull copies.
OTOH, iPod is on the market for quite a long time, and there are no real alternatives to it..
Ok, but how long will we have to wait before there are MM-copycat designs out there, with lower price point and PC hardware in them? When iMac came to the market we had bloody iEverything in transparent plastic, including toasters, and all that in a few months.
I doubt that MM will become more than an niche market gizmo, like it already is..
I know, I used it here, since not all the world has broadband Internet, or even Internet, in some obscure places..
But the point I was trying to make is that HAM should be considered in the way math is considered in the education process.. more or less every University educated engineer should know the basics, and have some hands-on experience even.
It makes you *understand* how communications work.
Is it only me who considers HAM, and radio comms in general as the foundation behind Internet.. after all be it air and EM radiation or good old copper, only difference is how you use it to get some data from point A to point B.
...
even TCP/IP would theoretically work using smoke signaling, it would be slow, but it can be done
Am I the only one who has a problem with the closed hull? From my experience, if you try to sail in poor weather, the last thing you need is not being able to see the horizon. Being violently sick is not one of the options on a warship...
Hm, in my opinion ngage is too bulky, in order to change a card you have to open the phone and take the battery out, and the screen is too small. and there is that small thing about the way you have to talk when you use it as a phone.. - http://www.sidetalking.com/
Ok, I know there is always a risk of sounding like a n advocate, but I agree with /. on this. This is a tipical example of a story that has to be put up, because if it weren't people would complain along the lines of "CNN has and where were you?"
So either way, if you are in the news business, you have to put it on your site, whether you like it or not.
Granted, but if replacement ink differs greately from original, there is only so much tweaking you can do. And from my experience, there is a lot of low quality ink in those cartridges that can really mess up your nozzles..
As always there are two sides to this:
One is the fact that ink is too expensive, and manufacturers know that. Price of really cheap printers is intentionally as low as it can be, and by using proprietary ink cartridges, manufacturers are only protecting their investment. They sold you a cheap printer, and hope to get their money back on cartridges. It's not just the cartridges. Ever wondered why most of the printers are shipped without printer cable?
A printer cable can cost as much as $25 for a 3m cable, and yet the real price of the cable must be under $1 in bulk. Talking about profit...
The other side has it with print quality. Printer HAS to know, because of the way it's designed, what kind of ink is in the cartridge. Electronics has to be able to direct correct amount of ink at the right time. Replacement ink usually has different physical properties (boiling point, composition, amount of pigment), and the printer has no way of detecting what really got through to paper surface. So with different cartridges you will get different quality and even different colors on paper.
Is Continuous Ink System another name for the inconvenient and inherently ugly hack where you put syringe connected to a bottle outside of the printer?
I have tested one such solution, and it was anything but portable. It depended on printer being able to support it, worked only on some models, and required modifications involving cutting a hole on one side of printer, so the tubes could get through.
It did work however, but it is not a solution I would recommend for faint of heart..
OTOH, while googling, I found
http://www.eddiem.com/photo/CIS/cis.htm
with a mightly ugly home made CIS hack, and some usefully info on cartridge chips..
It probably was good old Joystick.. Moon is practically around the corner compared to Mars. I think there is a couple of seconds delay in signal propagation, that's all..
Isn't it that almost all new Intel boardh have diagnostic LEDs? SCB2 (old MB for dual-PIII) does. And not only for memory but for CPUs and some other parts of the board, if I remember correctly.
Quite a usefull thing really, saved me a lot of trouble when one DIMM went bad..
SPV sux. period. I work as a journalist in Croatian IT magazine, and I had to review SPV when it was available on this part of the market. Come to think of it, it never was available to general public, it was review only, they later decided not to go public. Anyway, phone sux. I had more than a few phones in my hands and this is the only one to have "busy icon" as an almost constant feature.
And it kept crashing after around 30% of the calls. OTA updates are dependant on the operator making them available, and I dont think that an average phone user is used to having to constantly be on the lookout for new patches.
bottomline: It doesnt work as a phone.
You could be wrong. I had experience with HP 5500 hdn, it runs around 4K, if I am not mistaken. (I am not from states, prices are diferent here). When we had it for testing it could print arounf 14-15 ppm color, and around 17 b/w.
Add to that 10gigs of HDD inside standard for that model, and not a bad idea for any network printer.
5500 can also print on A3 sized papers, duplex.
OTOH, print quality is better on Epson, but comparable model is much more expensive if you go with that.
Ok this is all nice and well, but who says that record companies wont once again gang up on customers and try to force a decision on retailers? market works only if there is no monopoly or price fixing. and current prices of new CDs and DVDs havent come down much, like they would if it were a trully free market.
People here use following hardware, and it seems that it works quite well: Sony EditStation ES-3 Dual PIII 500 Asus P2BDS 128Mb RAM 6 x 18G Cheetah Seagate HDDs 8Gb Fujitsu HDD for system Matrox G400 DualHead 2x ADI G66 for display Adaptec 2940 PCI (second SCSI) With that they use appropriate VCRs (DVCam, Betacam SP, Betacam DX) It is probably as high end as a private production can get. Funny thing is that dual SCSI rig. Price tag is around $80k US.
Right, but how?
I know that everybody here really wants to stop this kind of cheap win-whatever hardware, be it modems, printers or something else, but how?
Isnt petitioning the only way to tell the vendors that we dont want cheap hardware that may or may not work, but in which price comes after quality?