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Memory Activity LEDs

Azert writes "Since a few months almost every popular memory maker includes heatspreaders with their fastest memory modules. Probably Corsair is setting a new fashion with their new line of memory with memory activity LEDs XMS ProSeries modules feature a row of LED's on the top edge that display real-time memory activity level. Each memory bank has a row of nine dedicated activity LED's that alight as the level of memory activity increases. 512 Mbyte XMS ProSeries modules, with two banks, have a total of 18 activity LED's in green, yellow and red."

403 comments

  1. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...is that what they mean by 'flash memory'..?

    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Flash memory is often used in cameras or some PDA's to write to the chips without having them erased when power is lost. It makes moving a flash memory card from a camera to a computer easy, instead of having to write to another medium inbetween. The computer can then read from the same memory that the device used to write to. On top of this, it saves energy, as you don't have to always refresh it for hours or days at a time to keep its contents. There's no LEDs on it

    2. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      humor
      n.

      1. The quality that makes something laughable or
      amusing; funniness: could not see the humor of the situation.
      2. That which is intended to induce laughter or amusement: a writer skilled at crafting humor.
      3. The ability to perceive, enjoy, or express
      what is amusing, comical, incongruous, or absurd.

      One and two apply to the original post, three is what you are lacking.

    3. Re:So... by jspoon · · Score: 1
      "No, Flash memory got its name because older models of it were nonvoltile memory modules that could be erased when exposed to ultraviolet light. It has nothing to do with blinking LEDs."

      Yes, Flash Memory is what we call the mental scarring that results when older models expose themselves. Nothing to do with any kind of electronics at all.

    4. Re:So... by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      Umm, no, those were EPROMs, Latter replaced with EEPROMS ( Erasable, and Electronically-Erasable, Programmable Read Only Memory )respectively.

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    5. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sarcasm
      n.

      A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.

    6. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you need to look up "irony". As in the fact that the "flash memory" joke *was* funny, and your attempt at humor was merely a flat attempt at elitistism.
      And if you don't see the humor in the first post, look up "pun".

      -Tim, the AC Poster Child

    7. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is #3 which is exemplified particularily well.

      Presuambly the irony comes from reflecting the humor reference upon the intent of it's use, since it sadly lacks in 1, 2 and 3.

      There is one part of your quote that, when taken out of context, does apply particularily well however: "could not see the humor of the situation".

    8. Re:So... by sharkdba · · Score: 1

      1. The quality that makes something laughable or amusing; funniness: could not see the humor of the situation.
      2. That which is intended to induce laughter or amusement: a writer skilled at crafting humor.
      3. The ability to perceive, enjoy, or express what is amusing, comical, incongruous, or absurd.

      One and two apply to the original post, three is what you are lacking.


      I agree with this. But this should be moderated as Insightful and NOT funny!

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  2. ATTENTION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This room is fullfilled mit special electronische equippment.
    Fingergrabbing and pressing the cnoeppkes from the computers is
    allowed for die experts only! So all the "lefthanders" stay away
    and do not disturben the brainstorming von here working
    intelligencies. Otherwise you will be out thrown and kicked
    anderswhere! Also: please keep still and only watchen astaunished
    the blinkenlights.

    1. Re:ATTENTION by dosius · · Score: 1

      That's the Blinkenlights sign...that's not off-topic. ;)

      -uso.

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    2. Re:ATTENTION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i dont need anymore blinkenlights... my computer already outshines the christmass tree on the 24th, and eliminated the need for lightning in my room, so i thinb ill do without "star trek" ram, although it is pretty cool...

    3. Re:ATTENTION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This version is much closer to the one I remember:

      Alles touristen und non-technischen looken peepers! Das machinkontrol is nicht for gefengerpoken und mittengrabben. Oderwise is easy schnappen der springenverk, blowenfus, undpoppencorken mit spitzensparken. Der machine is diggen by experten only. Is nicht fur geverken by das dumpkopfen. Das rubber necken sightseenen keepen das cotton-picken hands in das pockets. So relaxen, und vatchen das blinkenlights.

    4. Re:ATTENTION by anethema · · Score: 2, Funny

      I find the one made by americans much funnier. The one above was made by german hackers kind of in response to the american one.
      (Nothing against germans, or even for americans..I just find the american one more funny)

      Here it is from foldoc:

      ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS!

      Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und
      mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk,
      blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht
      fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das rubbernecken
      sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das pockets
      muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlichten.

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  3. Sounds like by DaLiNKz · · Score: 1

    Sounds like the world gets ever more closer to being something out of star trek.

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    1. Re:Sounds like by farnerup · · Score: 2, Funny

      So this is what those things in Mr. Data's head are?

  4. Useful by Psx29 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now I can finally tell whether or not my memory is bad!

    1. Re:Useful by jpc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      reply actually at least you might be able to tell which chip is bad when running memtest. Though my current problem is knowing which one is bad for dual channel chipsets, as I dont know what width they are interleaved on (64 bits?) and how that corresponds to the physical locations.

    2. Re:Useful by sosume · · Score: 0

      Right.. as if one could say anything useful just by looking at these LEDs other than "Man, I've got memory to spaaaare..."

  5. Pong? by danormsby · · Score: 5, Funny

    With enough banks of this RAM will the resolution be enough to play Pong?

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    1. Re:Pong? by K8Fan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You'd need a motherboard with 8 sockets. But I'm sure someone will hack it. Or at least a WinAmp plug-in that will use the RAM LEDs as a spectrum analyzer.

      Someone at Argonne Lab once hacked up a Pong for the LEDs on the front of the Connection Machine.

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    2. Re:Pong? by CTho9305 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I realize you're joking (I even found your joke funny), but unfortunately, implementing it would require work at the kernel level. Why? Well, when your program writes to, say, 0x00000000, that "virtual address" actually gets mapped to a different physical address. When your hard drive is thrashing and stuff is being paged in and out of RAM constantly, the physical address for a given virtual address could be changing multiple times per second.

      Now, a kernel patch for the linux VM system that allowed user programs to manipulate the lights (presumably this could be done by having the kernel just reserve 4k from each physical region monitored by each LED and rapidly hit that little bit of memory upon request) would be pretty cool :).

    3. Re:Pong? by kidlinux · · Score: 4, Funny

      The Apple G5 has 8 sockets for ram.

      Hook it up.

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    4. Re:Pong? by brejc8 · · Score: 1

      I allready had the thought of using LED's to see memory usage.
      Then using that memory to play Pong but never with the LEDs themselves.

    5. Re:Pong? by ameoba · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that, from pictures & videos I've seen of these, there's no way to make a single LED light up. It's a meter made up of a row of LEDs, rather than 10LEDs that can be individually controled.

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    6. Re:Pong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So does my old 386! COol!

    7. Re:Pong? by zulux · · Score: 1



      I thought System 5 syle SHMMEM was *always* allocated from RAM and never swapped out to disk. So you prog could grab all of it and flicker to your hears content.

      It would make the computer otherwise unuable though.

      PostgreSQL grabbs a bunch of it for it's caching, and on a FreeBSD box - once the tables are loaded, the only time a disk fickers is when a row is being saved. It never trashes.

      I'm pretty sure Linux has configuable SHMMEM as well.

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    8. Re:Pong? by LauraW · · Score: 1
      > ...unfortunately, implementing it would require work at the kernel level.

      Now that's a geek! :-)

    9. Re:Pong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is because the APPLE G5 is a 64bit machine. The max amount of ram on a 32-bit box is 4096Mb. The max RAM on a 64-bit is double that.

    10. Re:Pong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The max amount of ram on a 32-bit box is 4096Mb. The max RAM on a 64-bit is double that.
      No, no, NO!! The amount of RAM that you can normally address in a 32-bit system is 2^32 bytes, so it's 4096 MB as you (almost) said. (Almost because you said Mb, which is used for megabits).

      For a 64-bit system, the theoretical maximum is 2^64, although in some cases (like the PPC970) is is actually less (2^48, I think). Anyway that is MUCH more than 8 GB. The current G5s are limited to 8 GB, but expect MUCH bigger memories in the near future.

      By the way, you CAN address more than 4 GB with a 32-bit processor, by using shameless hacks similar to the 64 KB segments that PCs used to manage in the late 80s. Of course, that sucks, so I expect the PC world to move to 64 bits really soon (be it Opterons, Itaniums or whatever).

    11. Re:Pong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want Tetris!

      Reece,

    12. Re:Pong? by pyrrhonist · · Score: 1
      http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/mmmm/mmmm2.jpg

      Woah, it looks as if the Crash Test Dummies broke into your server and renamed your JPEGS!

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    13. Re:Pong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You won't need a kernel. Just create a protected mode program that puts its code in all the memory banks and jumps around the memory in the banks that should be lighted.

    14. Re:Pong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A program running in protected mode cannot konw what memory bank it exists in.

    15. Re:Pong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      protected mode != paging. You can be in protected mode with paging disabled (at least on ia-32. AMD's x86-64 requires paging when in 'long' mode. Nothing is stopping you from loading up a 1:1 page table, however.).

  6. Blinkenlights! by turgid · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cool! More blinkenlights! :-) Can we have one on the PCI bus too? What about the IDE bus? The USB cable. We alredy have one for the ethernet. Soon we'll be able to have our very own home discos.

    1. Re:Blinkenlights! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Visit Radio Shack - they already have blinkenlights on USB cables

    2. Re:Blinkenlights! by Aldurn · · Score: 5, Funny

      Those blinkenlights were installed so you could monitor those bits: off and on. NOT so you could throw memory raves!

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    3. Re:Blinkenlights! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lights indicating memory activity?

      I am looking forward to external tape drive like fans indicating CPU usage -- when everyone has blinking lights and tape driving looking thingies, that's when the PC revolution will have ended.

    4. Re:Blinkenlights! by macgyvr64 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Pin 39 on the IDE bus is activity. Wire an LED to that.

    5. Re:Blinkenlights! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strongbad: Hey The Cheat. I did not make you your own light switch so you can throw light switch raves. I made you a light switch so you can turns the light switch on, and off.
      Link

    6. Re:Blinkenlights! by MrLint · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well something similar occurred to me with the powermac g5. Build a USb powered LED display and mount it in all the little holes in the front of the case and have it display the the register contents of the cpu in psuedo real time.

    7. Re:Blinkenlights! by ZorinLynx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Finally a LEGITIMATE reason to have a window on your computer's case!

      I want to see more stuff like this; if people are going to put windows in their machines, it'll actually be useful now instead of just "ricing out" the machine...

    8. Re:Blinkenlights! by wsloand · · Score: 2, Funny

      And, for assistance, here is the direct link to the source!

      H*R Rocks!

      Bill

    9. Re:Blinkenlights! by LogicX · · Score: 1

      They have them for USB --- I have a cable which has LEDS at each end -- got it at the last CES show. It doesn't blink for status, it just glows a nice green :)

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    10. Re:Blinkenlights! by d3faultus3r · · Score: 1

      hell, what about an led for each bit of ram. imagine how many leds that would be.

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    11. Re:Blinkenlights! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They've already got light-up USB hubs and cables.

      Heck, RadioShack carries 'em.

    12. Re:Blinkenlights! by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      The turgid is grounded!

    13. Re:Blinkenlights! by Agent+R · · Score: 1

      Any more blinky lights and our computers will regress back to... this. :-)

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    14. Re:Blinkenlights! by madhatter01 · · Score: 0

      Lets go pour that silicon into Homestar's Mountain Dew. (I heard they have to pump your stomach for those things.)

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    15. Re:Blinkenlights! by Foolhardy · · Score: 1

      I can monitor lots of stuff: I just crank the volume on my sound card, then add volume from a set of speakers, and I can hear the bus activity. When I move windows, or do any IO, I can hear it on the speakers.

    16. Re:Blinkenlights! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if could potentially foul up bus signals or draw more power than is necessary.

    17. Re:Blinkenlights! by minion · · Score: 1

      Cool! More blinkenlights! :-) Can we have one on the PCI bus too? What about the IDE bus? The USB cable. We alredy have one for the ethernet. Soon we'll be able to have our very own home discos.

      I knew it! All these Planters commericals on TV with Mr. Peanut singing, "I'm coming out", and now these lights! They're trying to bring back disco!

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    18. Re:Blinkenlights! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then watch it overhead and die, since you've plugged up its ventilation.

      Plus, true realtime display of registers via USB is impossible, since USB requires a software stack, which would be unable to reflect its own register changes into the LEDs for obvious reasons.

      I missed the joke, didn't I. =)

  7. The beginning of the end? by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pretty soon it will be odd to not have a modded computer. It seems many companies are adding whiz-bang lights and windows on the computers so that people don't even have to pull out a Dremel any more.

    1. Re:The beginning of the end? by Ed+Avis · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pretty soon people will be modding their computers to _remove_ all the silly lights and windows.

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    2. Re:The beginning of the end? by alex_ant · · Score: 1
      Pretty soon it will be odd to not have a modded computer

      Only if you're a loser. For the other 98% of computer users, life will go on as normal.

    3. Re:The beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Only if you're a loser.

      Like you are, demonstrated by your spelling. The word is "looser"

      common mistake.

    4. Re:The beginning of the end? by SoSueMe · · Score: 1

      That is a pretty loose grip you have on your vocabulary.

      Anyhoo, I thought ACs used "LUZER!".

    5. Re:The beginning of the end? by mrgreenfur · · Score: 4, Informative

      this crap isn't modding. modding is when you change your computer. if you buy it all "tricked out" then you're just lame and haven't done any modding.

      if you buy one 'tricked out' and say, mod it into a 1:42 scale 747, then you've done some nice modding.

    6. Re:The beginning of the end? by cscx · · Score: 2, Informative

      Finally, someone said it. I never heard that a window in your computer helped your chances with the ladies...

    7. Re:The beginning of the end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Misspelling a word doesn't make you a looser.

      Modding your case on the other hand DOES bwhahaha!!

    8. Re:The beginning of the end? by back_pages · · Score: 1
      Then color me confused, I thought it was bad to be lame, but now you're telling me that if my computer isn't a retarded badge of misanthropic penile fetish, I'm lame.

      But maybe I'm trying to communicate across too great a divide here...

    9. Re:The beginning of the end? by _Sexy_Pants_ · · Score: 1

      If you put little blinking lights on your memory sticks yourself, then you've done some nice modding. While you work on that, I'm going to drool over these

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    10. Re:The beginning of the end? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      " this crap isn't modding. modding is when you change your computer. if you buy it all "tricked out" then you're just lame and haven't done any modding."

      This is just a troll. Yeah you didn't actually mod it your self, you bought it modded, but that doesn't make you lame. How the FUCK does that make you lame? This is the same attitude as the carmodders who think people who buy cars like the Lexus IS300 etc are lame because it comes premodded. Just because someone doesn't want to spend the same amount of time as you to mod something a little more to their tastes, does not mean they are lame. They just have different priorities than you. I could just as easily say you're lame for spending the time to MOD YOUR FUCKING COMPUTER. But I won't, because I think in the end, it looks cool regardless of whether it was bought that way or done by hand, and I have more class than to put other people down like that.

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    11. Re:The beginning of the end? by Tim+Doran · · Score: 1

      *pffft. Wimp.

      Now a 1/8 scale 747 - THAT is some nice modding, my friend.

    12. Re:The beginning of the end? by Diamondback · · Score: 1

      Casemodding isn't modding when everyone does it.

      Just like 'everyone, be different!' is a paradox.

    13. Re:The beginning of the end? by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      Forget modding...I just take a bit of electrical tape and stick it over the LED's. Room is much darker now.

      Probably shouldn't have got thant Antec PS with the blue LED's though :) Time to tape up the blow holes.

  8. forget green yellow red by jr87 · · Score: 1

    i would like some nice looking blue myself. but anyways I wonder how usefull this really gonna be. other than a possible style thing it seems a bit useless.

    1. Re:forget green yellow red by MrPerfekt · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't worry, somebody will come up with a method to read what's in your RAM from those little puppies!

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    2. Re:forget green yellow red by DoraLives · · Score: 1

      Great. Yet another security hole I'm going to have to deal with.

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  9. kind of neat by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At first thought, these seem to be little more than the typical "type-r" enhancements like neon lights in the case, ect. How many users have a transparent case anyway? But this could actually be useful for diagnostics.

    1. Re:kind of neat by jpc · · Score: 1

      It would be better if you could software select which colour led flashed for each location range, so you could colour buffer cache, code etc.

    2. Re:kind of neat by CTho9305 · · Score: 1

      Because of virtual memory, that wouldn't actually work without access to the page table, which would be highly invasive (and operating system dependent). With virtual memory, a given virtual address doesn't always correspond to the same physical address.

    3. Re:kind of neat by localghost · · Score: 1

      Let's see, a half dozen blinking lights vs. memtest86. I think I know which diagnostic tool I trust more. This is completely cosmetic, it serves absolutely no practical purpose.

    4. Re:kind of neat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is completely cosmetic, it serves absolutely no practical purpose.

      You figured that out all by yourself, did you?

    5. Re:kind of neat by jrockway · · Score: 1

      Well, if none of the lights come on then you know something's wrong, just not what. Better than nothing.

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    6. Re:kind of neat by i_am_nitrogen · · Score: 1

      You could use the LED's to identify which physical chips are bad while memtest86 is hitting those chips.

    7. Re:kind of neat by localghost · · Score: 1

      Unless the entire chip is bad, all you'll see is rapidly blinking lights on all of the chips.

  10. Just what I need... by AntiOrganic · · Score: 4, Funny

    I might as well just build my computer case from a 1997 Honda Civic hatchback with an 8-inch exhaust, 2-foot wing spoiler, blue turn signals and green neons under the car.

    What is wrong with people who buy this crap? It's so gaudy. Oh my god, LEDs! That's so cool!

    Case modders have the attention spans of 3-year-olds who hit every button in the elevator.

    1. Re:Just what I need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I used to think people did this stuff because there was some sense of uniqueness, or some artistic effort going into making something you own a bit more 'you', but after seeing a friend of my cousin's effort of copying to the last detail 3 cases from magazines, it makes me wonder.

      What made me realise he's an idiot was seeing his latest one. A window, neon lights galore, an Alien skull on the front with LEDs in the eyes, and the text "Case Mod" across the side. I mean wtf. Even Type-R Honda owners don't write "body kit" on their cars.

      Or do they. Maybe I'm out of touch.

    2. Re:Just what I need... by AntiOrganic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thanks for reminding me, I need my "AMD Racing" bumper sticker printed up.

    3. Re:Just what I need... by azav · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Don't forget to put a "type R" on the sticker.

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    4. Re:Just what I need... by stienman · · Score: 1

      "Case modders have the attention spans of 3-year-olds who hit every button in the elevator."

      Actually, you'd be surprised at the attention the average 3 year old has...:-)

      -Adam

    5. Re:Just what I need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What made me realise he's an idiot was seeing his latest one. A window, neon lights galore, an Alien skull on the front with LEDs in the eyes, and the text "Case Mod" across the side. I mean wtf. Even Type-R Honda owners don't write "body kit" on their cars.

      Or do they. Maybe I'm out of touch.


      In the mid 80s I remember being highly embarassed by my father's Falcon, covered in reflectors, aftermarket chrome strips, side protectors, and dad's handcrafted (badly, very badly) "Vee Eight Engine" sticker plastered across the boot.

    6. Re:Just what I need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they sell "GT-R" stickers (because of the skyline - if you don't know what it is you really need to read up on cars) at a local auto parts store and my friend and i thought it would be fun to buy a couple and take pics of random cars with the stickers on the quarter panels: station wagons, vanagons, pickups, etc.

    7. Re:Just what I need... by shepd · · Score: 1

      Make mine a "type baRton".

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    8. Re:Just what I need... by Razzy · · Score: 1

      You know what this calls for...mini-putin magazine!

    9. Re:Just what I need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elevator buttons, hmm, that'd make a sweet case mod.

    10. Re:Just what I need... by azav · · Score: 2, Funny

      EVEN funnier was when I was in Japan sometime last century and noticed lots of English words on cars that didn't really apply.

      In America, we put stickers/emblems/phrases on cars to show how much this car is enhanced from a "regular" car.

      This is why my mind boggled when I saw a factory emblem on a car that said "Single Cam".

      That's like saying "Steering Wheel" or even "Tires".

      Unless it's on a rotary engined car and then I'd be impressed as to how someone engineered a camshaft to run in a rotary engine.

      Reminds me of a line from a movie "Plato, Socrates... Morons"

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    11. Re:Just what I need... by B1ackDragon · · Score: 1

      The Princess Bride!!! What is more amazing, I just finished watching it 5 minutes ago.

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    12. Re:Just what I need... by zaphod_es · · Score: 1

      I might as well just build my computer case from a 1997 Honda Civic hatchback with an 8-inch exhaust, 2-foot wing spoiler, blue turn signals and green neons under the car.

      Keep your hands off my car, thank you very much!!

    13. Re:Just what I need... by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny
      Case modders have the attention spans of 3-year-olds who hit every button in the elevator.

      Maybe, but that's still a pretty fucking tall 3 year old.

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    14. Re:Just what I need... by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 1

      That IS amazing. How you watched through to the end is beyond me.

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    15. Re:Just what I need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The other I spotted a mustang all tripped out with yellow kanji.

      I wondered if he realized how stupid it was to put japanese writing on an american car. I wondered if he knew what any of those kanji meant. I wondered if the people that make those stickers have a good time selling stickers that say stuff like "dumb ass". I wondered how funny it would look if I just threw some random yellow english words on the side my japanese car. "Speed" "Wisdom" "Honor". Or better yet klingon.

    16. Re:Just what I need... by Magius_AR · · Score: 1
      What is wrong with people who buy this crap? It's so gaudy. Oh my god, LEDs! That's so cool!

      Case modders have the attention spans of 3-year-olds who hit every button in the elevator.

      You seem biased.
      But let me alleviate your fears that all case modders are like this.

      I enjoy modding my case because it adds uniqueness...I've cut two fan holes in my case myself (though those were more for air flow performance). I have some of the LEDs, and have eventual plans to water/lasercut a custom design in the side of my case and back light it.

      I don't find it any more gaudy than christmas lights, or halloween decorations, or even basic house decorations like knickknacks and the sort. Sure, its no Monet, but to a geek such things are artful. Sadly, a majority of case modders are kiddies who care only to be trendy. Case modding done right can really accentuate(sp?) a case.

      Btw, somehow I feel you can't be a mac user if you have that attitude. The way Apple is with style and creative use of LEDs, I'm surprised you aren't pissed off at them too.

    17. Re:Just what I need... by m1kesm1th · · Score: 1

      Case modders have the attention spans of 3-year-olds who hit every button in the elevator.

      I still do that.

  11. XMS? EMS? by sonicattack · · Score: 4, Funny

    512 Mbyte XMS ProSeries modules

    I want a 512 Mbyte LIM ProSeries module goddamit!

    1. Re:XMS? EMS? by dosius · · Score: 1

      I don't think EMS4 is even capable of grokking that much memory. ;)

      -uso.

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  12. New Optical Tempest issues? by teqo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now, will case modders with transparent cases have to face a new optical tempest problem (beware, PDF link!)? (People being able to sniff potentially critical data through analyzing LED blinking, that is...)

    1. Re:New Optical Tempest issues? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah. If 8-bit words appeared on the LEDs at those memory speeds it would appear solid. How cool is that? No one would buy that shit. I somehow doubt they would design it to act that way.

    2. Re:New Optical Tempest issues? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. What a stupid question. If I didn't already have over 200 foes, you'd be the next.

    3. Re:New Optical Tempest issues? by jerryasher · · Score: 1

      Very sincerely, I thank you for the warning to PDF.

      I would sooner see goatcx appear at the speed of a jpg than read almost anything than endure Adobe Acrobat's crummy splash screen and solution to the halting problem one more time.

    4. Re:New Optical Tempest issues? by jrockway · · Score: 1

      xpdf? You do use Linux, right!

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    5. Re:New Optical Tempest issues? by jerryasher · · Score: 1

      When I use Linux, pdfs are okay. But hey, I do use Windows too, and on Windows, Adobe is their own worse enemy. Reader is a slow crummy program with a terrible ui.

    6. Re:New Optical Tempest issues? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what you describe it sounds like you're using IE. There is absolutely no reason to do so, and I strongly encourage you to use Opera instead. Mozilla is pretty good too.

      One of the added benefits is that you download .pdf just like any other file type - it goes in the transfer manager and you open it at your leisure without Acrobat taking over your browser window.

  13. "heatspreader"? by NineNine · · Score: 1

    What in the hell is a "heatspreader"?

    1. Re:"heatspreader"? by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


      What in the hell is a "heatspreader"?

      An Eskimo hooker.

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    2. Re:"heatspreader"? by GoofyBoy · · Score: 4, Informative

      A piece of metal which attaches to memory sticks and passively dissapates heat.

      eg: http://www.gibtek.co.uk/hardware/nexus.php

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    3. Re:"heatspreader"? by pVoid · · Score: 1

      That's engrish man. Or some sort of bad litteral translation. It should be heatsync. There's no difference in the object, why would there be a different name.

    4. Re:"heatspreader"? by duren686 · · Score: 1

      It should be heatsink, unless you want something that makes your heat keep perfect time.

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    5. Re:"heatspreader"? by NickFitz · · Score: 1
      It should be heatsync

      No, it should be heatsink.

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    6. Re:"heatspreader"? by shepd · · Score: 0

      >It should be heatsync.

      That would be Nsync, but with bitches, right?

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    7. Re:"heatspreader"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What in the hell is a "heatspreader"?"

      And why is it not useful?

    8. Re:"heatspreader"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corsair calls those things heatspreaders, just like OCZ and all other memory makers like Kingston, GeiL, ...

    9. Re:"heatspreader"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Aw come on... who's the idiot that mods down the only funny reply I get...

      -pVoid

    10. Re:"heatspreader"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haven't you been getting the spam about heatspreader extensions?

    11. Re:"heatspreader"? by ameoba · · Score: 1

      They should be heatsinks, but that assumes they actually do anything about heat rather than just being a cosmetic thing.

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    12. Re:"heatspreader"? by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      An Eskimo hooker.

      Eskimo freebies

    13. Re:"heatspreader"? by shepd · · Score: 1

      Hey mod, you are showing your ignorance.

      Guess what goes in heat...

      BITCHES.

      You know, female dogs?

      Christ, am I the only man left that uses the english language PROPERLY around here?

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  14. Whats the possibility with security here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know there was talk a year or so ago about some routers/modems which flashed their LEDs not just on receipt of a packet, but flashed them in accordance with the data contained in the packets, and reading that flashing would enable someone away from the machine without physical access to read the contents of data transferred

    Is this the same? Would it be possible to read the contents of what's written to memory as it's written? I'm sure even when a password is encrypted it is, at some stage, moved into RAM as a plaintext piece of information. Could this be read? Are LEDs fast enough to transmit this information?

    1. Re:Whats the possibility with security here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      reading that flashing would enable someone away from the machine without physical access to read the contents of data transferred

      Complete myth. Urban legend.

    2. Re:Whats the possibility with security here? by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Are you sure?

    3. Re:Whats the possibility with security here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering memory bandwidth...if you can, then you've just created a pretty impressive network.

      Seriously, no. Even if the LEDs were accurate enough, and even if they were actually showing the data being transferred, you'd still need a huge row of LEDs to show the entire width of the memory bus.

    4. Re:Whats the possibility with security here? by cryptor3 · · Score: 1

      I'd agree with the other posts here and say that there's definitely not enough bandwidth in the LED response (compared to the memory bandwidth) to directly glean any significant amount of information from the blinking LEDs. This is not to say that someone will figure out some way to get some info about the blink patterns of your machine; I don't doubt that eventually someone will figure something out.

      All this means is that the notion of "physical security" will not just mean "out of reach" but also mean "out of sight." But if you ask me, usually if someone can see your machine, they're darn close to being able to physically get to it.

    5. Re:Whats the possibility with security here? by CrackerJackz · · Score: 1

      with only 18 leds for 512 million (give of take a few) I would think that there would be very little information you could pull out of looking at the led pattern (granted I can't RTFA, since its already dead ....)

    6. Re:Whats the possibility with security here? by srmalloy · · Score: 1
      with only 18 leds for 512 million (give of take a few) I would think that there would be very little information you could pull out of looking at the led pattern (granted I can't RTFA, since its already dead ....)

      The article isn't dead; you just have to try a few times to get past the slashdotting.

      However, the LEDs show how much memory activity is going on in the memory module, rather than any indicator of the data being accessed, the same way that the LED or LCD indicators on an equalizer show you how much signal is in each frequency range of the output from your stereo without telling you which frequencies in each range block are being produced. And with just the indicator, you wouldn't be able to tell whether the program was slamming memory hard because it was doing something that required large memory transfers, or had just been poorly optimized for memory usage and wasn't caching effectively.
  15. Memory isn't selling, what do we do? by KalvinB · · Score: 1

    Make it blink! Then all those nerds with 1.5GB of memory will forsake all sense and buy 1.5GB MORE memory just so it blinks!

    Brilliant!

    Ben

    1. Re:Memory isn't selling, what do we do? by IM6100 · · Score: 1

      Worse yet, they'll make it blink themselves, in interesting patterns, by writing special programs that run in the background that access the memory (which goes on and off as it's accessed). Then, because the programs running in the background are tying up resources, they'll go out and buy a faster processor.

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    2. Re:Memory isn't selling, what do we do? by NickFitz · · Score: 1

      When I was writing games for a living (late '80s), one of our guys wrote a bit of Amiga code which faded the power and floppy activity lights up and down in opposing phases over a period of about 2 seconds. Written in 68000 assembler, it used the entire capacity of the processor.

      Those were the days...

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    3. Re:Memory isn't selling, what do we do? by RichardX · · Score: 1

      Yay! the ol' LED fading trick. First time I remember seeing that was on a drawing proggy called Crack Art on the Atari ST.. the title screen faded the drive lights on and off (at least I think it was the drive lights.. mebbe capslock or something - can't even remember if the ST had lights for that)

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  16. AIDS! by mrpuffypants · · Score: 1, Interesting

    To quote the lovely Tina Fey:

    "Hey! That's great! Lights on my RAM! Oh, hey, scientists: CANCER! AIDS! Let's put the blinkenlights on the RAM on the backburner and try to eradicate cancer and AIDS first!"

    It is pretty cool, though...

    1. Re:AIDS! by docwardo · · Score: 1

      Not every scientist and engineer can work on Cancer and Aids.. Some of us do, but not everyone can!

    2. Re:AIDS! by JanneM · · Score: 1

      Not every scientist have an interest in cancer or AIDS, for that matter. People will tend to do research on whatever they find interesting and intriguing. To some extent you can direct it through grants and the like, but only to an extent.

      To put it another way: Why do we have a huge entertainment industry making shows, music, movies and games, when they could all be working on cancer and AIDS?

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    3. Re:AIDS! by dissy · · Score: 1

      > "Hey! That's great! Lights on my RAM! Oh, hey, scientists: CANCER! AIDS! Let's
      > put the blinkenlights on the RAM on the backburner and try to eradicate cancer
      > and AIDS first!"

      Why would an engineer who knows about either memory integrated circuit design, or LED physics, know jack all about anything bio or medical?

      Matter of fact, I'd prefer the chip designers to stay the hell away from my body thank you. If i wanted my body mucked with, I'd go to a doctor who knows what the hell he is doing with it (Ideally)

    4. Re:AIDS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are a scientist researching AIDS/Cancer, have you ever considered diet as it relates to disease? I think the raw vegans are the closest to getting it right. Diet and exercise.... I know there are more factors which play a role and this is gross over simplification but those folks seems to be enjoying a higher quality of life then people who partake in the standard american diet.

    5. Re:AIDS! by AvengerXP · · Score: 1

      You guys have no fucking sense of humor. You wouldn't know what needs a +1 funny if it bit you in the ass.

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  17. Actual Link by terradyn · · Score: 4, Informative

    The site actually links most of its information from [H]ard|OCP. Search for "[H]ardNews 8th Edition" to find the relevent article with pictures.

    Mirror Below

    I have just received some more information about Corsair his new line of memory. The XMS ProSeries memory is basically the same as their XMS series memory, with a better heatsink and an integrated memory activity meter.

    Corsair Memory, today announced the ProSeries, a new series of ultra-performance modules in their highly awarded XMS module family. XMS ProSeries modules offer the same extreme performance XMS modules are known for, but also incorporate two essential new features: an all-new heatsink designed for optimum thermal efficiency, and memory activity LED's.

    Corsair's new high-efficiency heatsink was custom designed especially for the XMS ProSeries. It is crafted from cast aluminum to offer excellent thermal qualities. Its mini fins maximize air surface contact area to draw heat away from the memory chips and dissipate it more quickly. The heatsink, which is bonded to the memory chips with a unique thermal adhesive, is embossed with bold "XMS" lettering on both sides of the module. On the top edge of the heatsink are windows to the activity LED's.

    XMS ProSeries modules feature a row of LED's on the top edge that display real-time memory activity level. Corsair is the first company to ever offer an activity meter on the module itself. Corsair invented this feature for the growing legions of enthusiasts and gamers who use windowed chassis, so they can tell at a glance the current level of memory activity. Each memory bank has a row of nine dedicated activity LED's that alight as the level of memory activity increases. 512 Mbyte XMS ProSeries modules, with two banks, have a total of 18 activity LED's in green, yellow and red.

    According to Corsair President Andy Paul, "The XMS ProSeries further extends Corsair's leadership in high performance module design. We combined the most efficient and stylish heatsink in the industry with never-before-seen activity monitoring features and XMS's legendary performance to deliver what will soon become the de facto standard memory module for gamers and enthusiasts."

    The following XMS Pro Series modules and module pairs are available immediately from resellers worldwide: - TwinX1024-4000PRO - matched pair of 512MB, DDR500 modules - TwinX1024-3200C2PRO - matched pair of 512MB, DDR400 modules - CMX512-4000PRO - 512MB, DDR500 module - CMX512-3200C2PRO - 512MB, DDR400 module

    Looks pretty cool I think, but on the other side I do not really think that many users will really have any benefit from memory acitivity LEDs on their memory modules. But it sure looks cool..

    1. Re:Actual Link by legoburner · · Score: 4, Informative

      and for lazy people, Here is the money shot.

    2. Re:Actual Link by t · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What a bummer. I thought they were going to be SMTs next to each chips access pin, but no, instead it looks like Kit's bumper.

    3. Re:Actual Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding, those seriously look like ass.

  18. CM-5? by grub · · Score: 1


    What were all the LEDs on the Thinking Machines CM-5 for?

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    1. Re:CM-5? by msgmonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      I dont know but I do know that if my PC looked like those machines I'd be irresistable to women!

    2. Re:CM-5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were put there so it looked like the BatComputer for the suits that were going to buy it.

    3. Re:CM-5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Mostly address and data bits, miscellaneous mode bits, and so on. Generally, if everything stopped flickering it was a bad sign.

      Most machines monitored so many lines that a bank of lights could be switched to display different things to keep the panel from growing really large - although there were some exceptions, like the 360/75, which I'm told had so many lamps that pressing the "lamp test" button would pop a circuit breaker -- for a while a standard feature of every /75 was a handmade guard of some sort over the LAMP TEST button.

      There were options to display all sorts of obscure control lines and flip-flops within the machine; they were mostly used by CEs when diagnosing the hardware. They could step a program one clock cycle at a time and look at data going through the machine as it decoded and executed a single instruction. Or they could monitor the internal workings of, say, the multiplexer channel to see whether a flip-flop was sticking or data wasn't showing up.

      One cute display I discovered on the 90/30 was the length of the current seek being made by a disk drive attached to the Integrated Disk Adapter (as most of them were). This wasn't an absolute cylinder number but the actual difference between the current cylinder number and the one to which it was going. Consistently high readings on this display meant that the system was thrashing badly; moving the file in question to a different drive could dramatically improve performance. (This is still true nowadays, although few people realize it because few personal computers have more than one drive.) This was a timely display, because the newer disk drives on the 90/30 had an opaque cover and you couldn't see whether the heads were moving excessively anymore.

      The Univac 9300 on which I cut my teeth would by default display the first 16 bits of the currently-executing instruction while it was running. If this display suddenly froze in some random pattern, it was a pretty good indication that your program had gone into a loop. The simplest example, a branch to itself, would display 0100 0111 1111 0000 (47f0), the opcode and mask bits of an unconditional branch. Generally, though, if your program went into a loop, it was executing enough instructions each time around that all the lights would come on.

      With the processor halted, you could step through your program one machine instruction at a time, and display and alter memory locations (both data and instructions) as well, and even jump to a different spot in your program. Early but effective interactive debugging! Modifying instructions or data on the fly was possible and scary.

      On a card-based 9300, I could tell whether my program was CPU- or I/O-bound from the lights. Although it used DMA for all I/O, there would come a time when a program would have to wait for a device, and it would block by busy-waiting in a two-instruction loop:

      TIO something,device-addr
      BC 8,*-4

      The TIO instruction had an opcode of a5, followed by an 8-bit device address, while the branch instruction was 4780. So if the machine was spending most of its time waiting for the card reader (device address 01), the two instructions a501 and 4780 would blur together to produce an apparent display of e781. If it was waiting for the printer (device address 03), the display would be e783.

      If a program was CPU bound, it would be executing a random assortment of instructions so all of the lights would come on. If the program was only slightly I/O-bound, the patterns I described above would be discernible as brightly-lit bulbs, while the others would be dimly lit, and probably flickering in time with the device on which the program was waiting.

      Some machines had "sense lights" or similar indicators which programs could turn on and off at will. ... all of which brings to mind the S/360 model 69, which had quite a few instruction opcodes not found on other models. One was BBI, "Branch on Blinking Indicator."

    4. Re:CM-5? by convolvatron · · Score: 1

      the lights on the cm-5 were just driven by one of the suns inside the cabinet. they were totally gratuitous.there were a few different driver programs you could select.

      on the cm-2, they were actually driven by the processors themselves, and you could tell what application was running by looking at the pattern....but they too were effectively gratuitous. i do remember writing a tetris on the cm-2, but there wasn't much space.

  19. This could be fun. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With some assembler, I bet i could make some sort of graphics out of this machine, like this.

    * = on
    _ = off

    __*___*__
    _*_____*_
    __*****__
    1. Re:This could be fun. by duren686 · · Score: 1

      You'd make a horseshoe.

      Wow, you're really reaching for the top there, aren't you?

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  20. Casemodding won't be cool when it's the standard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The trend will reverse (thank God!), and having a tasteful, plain computer-- one that doesn't look like it would have been driven by a pimp in the 70's if it were a car-- will be in vogue again.

    /me looks fondly at the dead-plain, black, monolithic PC case under his desk, adorned with nothing but a small case badge that bears a photo of an F-117.

    People who rice up their PCs should be locked in a large cage with people who rice up their cars, and the two groups should be made to fight to the death. Then when the winners emerge victorious from the cage, they'll be cut down by a couple well-positioned Gatling guns. :-)

  21. Oh my by msgmonkey · · Score: 1

    EMS/XMS memory thats one nightmare I did n't want to be reminded off.. expanded and extended memory I'd almost forgotten.

    1. Re:Oh my by sonicattack · · Score: 5, Funny

      EMS/XMS memory thats one nightmare I did n't want to be reminded off.. expanded and extended memory I'd almost forgotten.

      Nightmare? Can't you remember the pure joy of upgrading your emm386.exe to Quarterdecks ultra-super-space-saving QEMM386, watching "Optimize" do its trick (three reboots, right?) and having saved another forty kilobytes of precious low memory, raising your fist to the sky screaming yeeeaaaaaahhh! ?

      Well, I can! I can remember my jaw dropping and drool gushing out when the same Quarterdeck QEMM386 (May God be merciful upon its memory) rebooted my lovely DOS in less than 5 seconds, thanks to the awesome Quarterdeck Quickboot!

    2. Re:Oh my by IM6100 · · Score: 1

      I don't want to be reminded of LIM memory. But, then, many people reading this weren't alive then.

      64K 'window' paging. Eeeek!

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    3. Re:Oh my by HBI · · Score: 1

      The pages were only 16k in size :b

      The page frame (window) was 64mb. However, I believe that, besides the 3.2 or 4.0 page frame, the Quarterdeck people did something funky with memory mapping (using EMS 4.0 features) which permitted them to swap out the entire main memory a program inhabited.

      Hence the reason why Desqview worked.

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    4. Re:Oh my by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but running QEMM386 wouldn't have given me jack shit on my 486. A couple runs of MemMaker after having under 600K free, and I had 639K free. Beat that with a booted DOS box. Oh, and that was with both mouse and cd-rom drivers.

    5. Re:Oh my by msgmonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Whilst QEMM386 was good you could still get some extra goodness out of emm386.exe. I used to work in a pc repair/upgrade shop, you could sometimes see a customers tears of joy when I used to knock out my "signature" EMM386 line in the config.sys after spending they spent the whole pervious evening trying to get the required 614k to get some game working. The trick was (if I remember correctly) adding /I=B000-B7FFF to 32K more "upper" memory since that memory area was only used for monochrome video cards.. that was nearly 9 years ago, man I cant believe I remember all this crap.

    6. Re:Oh my by aed · · Score: 1

      QEMM... that's been a while ago...
      I remember having a 386SX machine with an onboard VGA card, but no VGA monitor (A CGA ISA card and a CGA monitor at the time)
      I don't exactly know how I managed to do it, but I once succeeded in adding the unused VGA card's memory to my conventional memory. (The videomemory range began directly above the 640K conventional)
      After that I've never seen another PC having 'only' 715KB conventional memory available :D

    7. Re:Oh my by Splab · · Score: 1

      The sad thing about this is that it will be forgotten by the new generations of lamergamers - Back when I played on my first PC it was J-Bird, had to boot on a special disk to get it to work. Later on the sport was to get as much low memory as possible - todays kids have no idea what the heck autoexec.bat or config.sys did. They have no appreciation for how easy the got it :/

    8. Re:Oh my by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

      I just remember all the application conflicts that programs like 386max and qemm used to cause :).

      But for the most part it worked okay.

    9. Re:Oh my by efextra · · Score: 1
      todays kids have no idea what the heck autoexec.bat or config.sys did. They have no appreciation for how easy the got it :/


      I bet these "today's kids" will be saying the same thing to their kids.
    10. Re:Oh my by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 1

      The only game I can think of that actually required 614k of conventional memory in order to run was Falcon 3.0... Is this the game you were referring to?

    11. Re:Oh my by Eristone · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but running QEMM386 wouldn't have given me jack shit on my 486. A couple runs of MemMaker after having under 600K free, and I had 639K free. Beat that with a booted DOS box. Oh, and that was with both mouse and cd-rom drivers.

      [Throws Brownish-Yellow flag] I call bullsh!t on that number.

      639k total memory probably (which would be due to that 1k virus sitting in memory on your machine...) But best you were going to get was 628k free with Memmaker. Bits of DOS would still remain in lower memory.

      (Senior Support Tech Emeritus & Short Order Cook - Quarterdeck)

    12. Re:Oh my by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's B000-B7FF... but nobody cared now.

    13. Re:Oh my by zaphod_es · · Score: 1

      The sad thing about this is that it will be forgotten by the new generations of lamergamers

      The will get a rough idea if they try running Linux :))

    14. Re:Oh my by sharkey · · Score: 1
      having saved another forty kilobytes of precious low memory, raising your fist to the sky screaming yeeeaaaaaahhh...

      this fucking Origin game STILL wants 37k MORE conventional memory!?!?! WTF!!!!

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    15. Re:Oh my by Doctor+O · · Score: 1

      I remember that putting FRAME=E000 freed up some more of those precious 640 kB, usually enough that you didn't have to bother for further optimizations that might have broken some applications like, Falcon 3.0. *g*

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    16. Re:Oh my by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 1

      Oh, man, I remember Qemm386. I remember the three boots, and I needed it to be able to open images in PAINT.EXE in Windows 3.1. I had a 486/25. I got a contact in my town for RMA merchandise, found a 486DX/33 and SIXTEEN MEGS of RAM. I went from 4 megs to 20 megs that day. And it still wasn't as useful as my C=64.

    17. Re:Oh my by msgmonkey · · Score: 1

      Falcon 3.0 rings a bell, but having said that in those days getting enough conventional memory for most games was a pain in the rear.

    18. Re:Oh my by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      I recall that there was some hack/tweak about the mono video RAM area being mapped in above your 640K, giving you another 32/64K or so.... maybe he's mumbling about that?

      And for the record, I remember my tandy laptop with it's massive 2048K of battery-backed EMS ram. Oh yeah, now we're pimpin' ;-)

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    19. Re:Oh my by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      I was reminded of this when troubleshooting some old dos software that interfaced to some balances and a serial printer - the phone call went like :

      ME : "Easy, just set up MODE in your autoexec file to redirect the lpt port to com2 at 9600 baud, and plug the printer into com2"

      Young Computer guy : "MODE? what's that? Hey, autoexec.bat only runs just before you boot windows doesn't it? (this was on a DOS only PC by the way)"

      Me: "(Rolls eyes) just put it in there."

      YCG : "(click,click) But... there's no EDIT...."

      Me: "Well, just copy con it then."

      YCG: "What the fuck are you talking about?!?"

      Me: "Step away from the computer - I'll be there in an hour."

      I'm only 29 and he's 21 and Frigging Useless. God help the next generation if they ever need to use the XP recovery console or (gasp!) linux or something.

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      There is a lot of hype here.
    20. Re:Oh my by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Yes, if you optimize for Windows (the Winlusers of the time didn't use old apps - therefore, they didn't need mono ram), you'd get that. I think it's a HIMEM setting.

  22. What's next, dipswitches? by zx-6e · · Score: 2, Funny

    ooh, all the pretty lights....

    1. Re:What's next, dipswitches? by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Here you go. Can switch off dips of all walks of life.

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  23. activity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is meant by 'activity?' Size of memory usage, bandwidth usage, amount of power it's drawing?

  24. Another color for Windoze users! by spiritgreywolf · · Score: 1

    Gee, something other than the color blue to look at!!

    Great... Now I gotta stay inside whilst the masses party in the streets and get wasted on Zima...

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  25. What's next? by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 1

    Are they going to find a way to make the computer automatically generate that tele-type "clickety-clack" sound everytime a key is pressed... as is so popular in movies today to show how "advanced" the laptop the hero's using is? ;)

    Seriously, outside of "looking pretty" and appealing to a (seemingly growing) generation of case-modders, what's the point?

    One suggestion was you can see if you have bad memory. Umm... (forgive the Windows-specific example) I can tell that when I get a BSOD... or the machine fails to boot.

    Someone should tell these memory manufacturers that they should spend more money increasing the access speed of their memory instead of making it "pretty." Or, at the very least, work on heat dissipation.

    I'm not going to be really happy until the line blurs between L1 cache and main memory. ;)

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    1. Re:What's next? by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Actually, I remember a Mac joke book that came with a typewriter-sound-on-keypress CDEV.

    2. Re:What's next? by stemcell · · Score: 1
      Are they going to find a way to make the computer automatically generate that tele-type "clickety-clack" sound everytime a key is pressed... as is so popular in movies today to show how "advanced" the laptop the hero's using is? ;)

      I thought ICQ did that?
    3. Re:What's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is L1 cache made out of, SRAM? If that's the case there's a long way to go.

    4. Re:What's next? by Nf1nk · · Score: 1
      Are they going to find a way to make the computer automatically generate that tele-type "clickety-clack" sound everytime a key is pressed... as is so popular in movies today to show how "advanced" the laptop the hero's using is? ;)

      Funny My keyboard has been making that same clicky clack noise since I spilled the can of code red on it

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  26. This hearkens back by earthforce_1 · · Score: 4, Interesting


    To the 1950's, 1960's, and early '70s where computers had rows and rows of blinking lights and switches Anywbody remember the PDP 11's? Or the early Altairs?

    Now we just need an excuse to add dozens of little toggle switches to the side of the case.

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    1. Re:This hearkens back by fmaxwell · · Score: 1

      To the 1950's, 1960's, and early '70s where computers had rows and rows of blinking lights and switches Anywbody remember the PDP 11's? Or the early Altairs?

      Just about every computer made then had the lights and switches. There are those of us who remember keying in programs using switches on front panels. The difference was that those lights served an actual purpose -- other than pimping up a computer. It was possible to single-step through a program using those lights and switches. One could examine and modify the contents of RAM.

      Putting LEDs on RAM modules today is like putting a crank on the front of a modern electric-start car.

    2. Re:This hearkens back by schmink182 · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine has a dial to control fan speed on her computer, but it isn't hooked up, so you can just play with it. Similar idea, very fun...

    3. Re:This hearkens back by iamacat · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. A crank on a modern car would be very useful when you battery is dead. Perhaps a PC should have a front panel for single-stepping a crashed OS. Seeing how they can make an $20 handheld chess game with programmable logic, one could have an equivalent of debug.exe running on a front panel LCD and completely independent of the main CPU.

    4. Re:This hearkens back by fmaxwell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmm.. A crank on a modern car would be very useful when you battery is dead.

      Not really. If the battery is truly dead, there won't be anything to supply spark, power the electronic fuel injection, electric fuel pump, etc. It's not like the old days of magnetos and carbs.

      Perhaps a PC should have a front panel for single-stepping a crashed OS.

      Ignoring all of the technical ramifications of doing this with a modern PC, one major obstacle is the complexity of modern operating systems and applications. Back in the day when an 8K OS was considered bloated and a computer with 64K of RAM was considered a "loaded" system, it was quite reasonable to try to single-step your way through applications. When PCs have hundreds of megabytes of RAM and programs now take hundreds of thousands of instructions through OS calls just to perform conceptually simple things like opening a window on the screen, it's nigh-on impossible to do anything with a front panel.

    5. Re:This hearkens back by Brad+Mace · · Score: 1

      One of my computers has an easy-to-bump power button, so I added an 'arming' toggle switch to disable it and the reset button. Because it was in my dorm room, I also added a switch for the LEDs on the front and one for the speaker. so there's 3 toggle switches in a 5 1/4 bay. I'm sure I could do better if I worked at it a little.

    6. Re:This hearkens back by iamacat · · Score: 1

      Not really. If the battery is truly dead, there won't be anything to supply spark, power the electronic fuel injection, electric fuel pump, etc. It's not like the old days of magnetos and carbs..

      Huh? The car has a generator. Why won't it supply electricity for all these things? I had a dead battery a few times and drove home just fine after someone gave me a jump.

    7. Re:This hearkens back by Epistax · · Score: 1

      Now we just need an excuse to add dozens of little toggle switches to the side of the case.

      Multipliers, duh.

    8. Re:This hearkens back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, but you gotta start the car first, you DID need a jump...

      (says the gender-confused person with solar panels on the roof of their Explorer)

    9. Re:This hearkens back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, I believe he was trying to say that it would be good to have a crank so you turn the generator, but I don't think that would work, as the power requirements are probably too high.

    10. Re:This hearkens back by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

      I remember toggling in the boot loader on the PDP/8 in high school and playing Nim via the toggles of the GE-625's at my father's office.

      About 15 years ago, I had to start up a "newer" PDP/11 which had a keypad and numeric display instead of toggles and lights. After about an hour, I found the machine instructions to boot it. Then someone came in and showed me that there was a single button that autoloaded the boot code. Doh!.

    11. Re:This hearkens back by HFXPro · · Score: 1

      The generator on a car, at least most modern cars is actually an alternator. You will need to put some current into it before it will begin generating current do to its design. However, a simple 9v batter will work in most cases.

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    12. Re:This hearkens back by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      Not really. If the battery is truly dead, there won't be anything to supply spark, power the electronic fuel injection, electric fuel pump, etc. It's not like the old days of magnetos and carbs..

      Huh? The car has a generator. Why won't it supply electricity for all these things? I had a dead battery a few times and drove home just fine after someone gave me a jump.

      What you call a "generator" is more accurately an alternator. An alternator requires a small amount of electricity beforehand in order to create the magnetic field it rotates the wire coils through. With no initial electricity, it's just a coil of wire spinning inside another coil of wire. Also, the problem with had cranking a car with electronic fuel injection is that it needs to be cranked long enough to generate enough power to get the fuel system up to the high pressure required by the injectors.

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    13. Re:This hearkens back by autopr0n · · Score: 1

      Not really. If the battery is truly dead, there won't be anything to supply spark, power the electronic fuel injection, electric fuel pump, etc. It's not like the old days of magnetos and carbs.

      Well, just attach an alternator to the crank itself.

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    14. Re:This hearkens back by fmaxwell · · Score: 1

      Well, just attach an alternator to the crank itself.

      An alternator requires current to energize the rotor. No current in = No current out.

      Even supposing that you did manage to make the engine produce electricity throughout the cranking period, it's unlikely that the engine would be spinning fast enough or long enough to produce the current necessary to power everything from the ECU (Engine Control Unit) to the lesser electronics throughout the vehicle.

      Let's get some perspective here. A Model T engine had a 2.9l engine. It had 4.0 to 1 compression ratio, made 22.5hp, and had a 1,600rpm redline. It didn't take much of a spin to get that engine anywhere near operating speed. Contrast that with a modern engine. Let's take a Ford Taurus as a random example. It has a 3.0l engine with 8.0 to 1 compression. It makes 155hp at 4900rpm. If you've developed your arm enough to crank-start a modern car, you need a girlfriend.

    15. Re:This hearkens back by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 1

      To me, the Connection Machine range of supercomputers were the ultimate in blinkenlighten computing.

      The Connection Machine CM-2 cube. Another picture.

      Presently, there's the Connection Machine CM-5. Another image.

    16. Re:This hearkens back by BrainInAJar · · Score: 1

      "A crank on a modern car would be very useful when you battery is dead. "

      Or, you could just drive a standard. Put it in 2nd, kick in the clutch, get someone to push you a bit, dump the clutch, boom. Car started.

    17. Re:This hearkens back by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      You have to wind your car over at about 1500rpm to kick start your generator into making any juice out of it's residual rotor magnetism.

      Good luck trying to do that with your arms ;-)

      (For the guys below this post - it can be done, you just have to spin up the alternator a lot more before residual magnetism kicks in and powers up the regulator. A steep hill, about 30kph and drop the clutch in 2nd or 3rd can do it. I've done it without an open-circuit battery in a car before today, but I'm an auto electrician and I say, "now, we really shouldn't do this but.." first.

      It is nasty for the electronics though - alternators have some trouble keeping below 14-15 volts without a battery to soak up the load - in the above case it was start the car or walk about 50km. So we started the car ;-)

      It does take about 3 seconds of winding over to start it though, as your (late model car) :
      Spins up it's alternator and gets enough residual magnetism to excite it's rotor properly.
      Wakes up its EFI computer.
      EFI powers up its fuel pump to get fuel pressure.
      EFI computer realises ignition is on and engine is rotating and it's not supplying spark or fuel.
      EFI computer thinks "WTF!?" (or it's factory-programmed equivalent)
      EFI supplies spark and fuel. This can take a little bit as you haven't turned the key to start, and EFI computers like you to do that normally so they can twiddle the mix etc for easier starts.

      And 3 seconds is a long time when you're rolling down a short hill considering having to push your 1.5 ton car back up it to have another go;-)

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  27. Obligatory by Kardis314 · · Score: 1, Funny

    I for one welcome our new blinking memory overlords!

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    1. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Please throw yourself off the nearest very tall building.

      Thank you.

  28. (ot) blinkenlights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A naive question. What did the blinkenlights on the old iron that had them, show? I had always assumed that they were tied to the machine's data and address buses (with appropriate buffering), but then the things would be useless much of the time. On the other hand, the BLs on this one old machine that lived in the Chrysler dinosaur pen when I worked there, did look like they were echoing a bus. On yet another hand, the MPEG of a PDP-x(8?) booting up that I found on the Rhode Island old iron Web site, clearly showed patterns that stuck around for a second or so, implying that the panel lights were under program control, and could actually say something.

    So, what was it? Was the front panel an elaborate machine-wedged-p? indicator during normal operation, or was it a program-controlled output device? Or was it something else, of which my limited intelligence can not even conceive?

    1. Re:(ot) blinkenlights by alex_ant · · Score: 1

      If you were a representative from a large corporation trying to decide which school's computing research dept. to fund, would you want to give your money to the school with the computer that had lots of flashy lights, or the school with the boring computer that barely had any lights?

    2. Re:(ot) blinkenlights by NickFitz · · Score: 2, Informative

      The PDP8/e had a rotary switch on the front panel that allowed you to use das blinkenlights for various purposes.

      From The PDP8/e & PDP8/m Small Computer Handbook (Digital Equipment Corporation, 1972), Table 2-1, pp 2-3 to 2-4:

      Indicator Selector Switch

      This is a six-position rotary switch, used to select a register for display. The six positions are as follows:

      1. STATE - Indicates an individual function for each bit;
        Bit
        0 - Fetch
        1 - Defer
        2 - Execute
        3 - IR 0
        4 - IR 1
        5 - IR 2
        6 - MD DIR
        7 - Data Control
        8 - SW
        9 - Pause
        10 - Break in Prog
        11 - Break
      2. STATUS - Indicates an individual function for each bit;
        Bit
        0 - Link
        1 - Greater Than Flag
        2 - Interrupt Bus
        3 - No Interrupt Allowed
        4 - Interrupt On
        5 - User Mode
        6 - Instruction Field 0
        7 - Instruction Field 1
        8 - Instruction Field 2
        9 - Data Field 0
        10 - Data Field 1
        11 - Data Field 2
      3. AC - Indicates bits 0 - 11 of the accumulator at TS1
      4. MD - Indicates Information just written or rewritten into memory
      5. MQ - Indicates contents of MQ register during TS1
      6. BUS Indicates bits 0 - 11 of the DATA Lines

      (Well, you did ask :-)

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  29. colors by Councilor+Hart · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Great. More lights which means nothing to me. I am colour-blind. Worse is that more and more things try to give me information by changing the color of the leds, leaving me standing in the desert of ignorance. So it tells me nothing and I pay for the power usage.

    1. Re:colors by alex_ant · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, damn, sucks for you, everyone else is going to be sponging up loads of useful info from these lights. Oh well, maybe some enterprising fellow will discover this untapped market for color-blind case modders and debut a line of RAM sticks with little speakers on them.

    2. Re:colors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Engineer: Some guy on Slashdot said he's colour blind and likely won't buy this RAM!
      Boss: Well, if one person can boycott it, then everyone can. Shut the whole thing down. And for wasting time on Slashdot, you're fired.

    3. Re:colors by kobotronic · · Score: 1

      If that's really a problem for you, too bad. I have a USB memory thingy with green/red alternating indicator colors representing idle/busy states. A red cellophane filter would make just the busy indicator light up.

  30. But memeory goes inside case... by MP3Chuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What good are LED's unless you've got a clear case mod ... or no case?

    1. Re:But memeory goes inside case... by alib001 · · Score: 1

      What good are LED's unless you've got a clear case mod ... or no case?

      They help keep the gremlins distracted, of course.

    2. Re:But memeory goes inside case... by i_really_dont_care · · Score: 1

      It's handy for diagnosing problems. You can see if the memory is broken, or if the OS doesn't use it because of some misconfiguration.

    3. Re:But memeory goes inside case... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Insightful?

      It takes a real genious to point out that you cant see through metal.

      Homers brain: " Braaaa-VO..*clap*.. *clap* "

  31. Encouraging emi/rfi? by v1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With all the case modding going on, I wonder how much though has been put into the interferance being generated by all the clear cases that are around today? There's a reason computer cases normally come as a solid sheet of metal. It's called a "faraday cage", (sp?) and is used to keep the nasty interferance generated by today's high speed systems inside the case.

    Most stock case systems come complete with rows of metal "fingers" along the edges where sheets meet, and where the ports mesh against the back of the case, etc., to keep emi/rfi from leaking out. I'm assuming all of this bother is to keep the case within FCC regulations for generating interferance.

    I wonder just how much interferance a typical "clear case" system generates to the surrounding area? Has anyone here at /. ran across any studies or sampling done on computer-generated interferance?

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    1. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Avian+visitor · · Score: 1

      I've read a story somewhere (perhaps on slashdot) that someones garage door remote stoped working after he/she installed a case window.

    2. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by dissy · · Score: 4, Informative

      I do know that about 2 out of 5 systems I have ran accrost in the past three or four years has come in plastic cases with no metal shielding what so ever as part of the case.

      While I can't say anything useful on your origonal question, I can say that its been around as a potential problem for many many more years than case modding has been main stream.

      BTW, i've never heard any complaints about the plastic cases being made in the past few years, so I'd guess not much interfearance happens, or not enough to report to anyone.

      I would also guess a modded case that is mostly metal is still better at blocking signals than a normal plastic case, and of course more than a modded plastic case, even if not as well as an unmodded metal case.

      I personally have only modded one metal case, and I did not cut the metal in any way to do it.
      I've also run systems with no case what so ever for long periods of time (My 3rd BBS was a motherboard hung on my wall) and never noticed any problems that could be from RF interfearance.

    3. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Zebbers · · Score: 1

      ive run without covers on my cases for a decade now

    4. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by vonsneerderhooten · · Score: 1

      I remember when we had our 486 dx4/100 at the house, it would make interference on channel 4 on our tv. shut it down and you can watch it, but with the computer up, it would be just static. I should also note that this was with no modding, a totally shielded computer. Those old AT's appear to have better shielding than an ATX. Also of note is that i run a pentium 3 now, with no side cover and have noticed no interference.

      -D

    5. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The wavelength of 3GHz radiation is 10cm. The case doesn't have to be solid metal to stop the radiation, only that the holes are smaller than 10cm. The fingers don't stop the radiation leaking out (the gaps are never big enough) but they do ensure that the sides of the case are in electrical contact with the chassis.

    6. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just guessing, but I'd guess that the processor speeds have pushed a lot of the interference into a whole different part of the spectrum, maybe it's just less of a problem, or just less noticable with consumer devices.

    7. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by freeweed · · Score: 1

      Which is it?

      Your 486 caused interference, and your P3 doesn't, and yet you say

      Those old AT's appear to have better shielding than an ATX.

      I think you got that part backwards :)

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    8. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by denisbergeron · · Score: 1

      > I remember when we had our 486 dx4/100 at the house, it would make interference on channel 4

      >Also of note is that i run a pentium 3 now, with no side cover and have noticed no interference.


      You have problem on channel 4 with a 486 now with a 686 you will have problem on channel 6, not on the 4 this is why you don't notice interference on channel 4!
      Hummm, mayby on channel 3 since it a pentium 3 !
      Can you try this channel and give come back with the result !

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    9. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by alienw · · Score: 1

      The case doesn't have to be solid metal to stop the radiation, only that the holes are smaller than 10cm

      BZZZZZT! Wrong answer. The 3GHz clock isn't a problem. All of those 133MHz, 66MHz, and 8MHz clocks ARE a problem. Plus, there are harmonics and other digital crap created by all the digital signals inside. Also, your wavelength calculations are completely wrong. Were they to be true, EMI/RFI would never be a problem. Most signals which create problems are in the 40m - 1.5m region.

    10. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to read up more on Faraday cages dude.

    11. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and look would it did to your capitalization and punctuation.

    12. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Linker3000 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And don't forget the additional light pollution through the transparent case - pity the astronomers.

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    13. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Fweeky · · Score: 1

      This can actually be a serious issue if you sleep in the same room as a computer. I've moved my bed so I'm no longer in direct line of sight with my cable modem and server LED's... and still the ethernet activity lights lighting up the wall behind them annoys me.

      Forget Turbo switches; we need cases with buttons to turn off all the damn lights :)

    14. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      Aint that the truth. And I've a Wireless access point that clicks quietly but noticeably in a quiet office-damn annoying!

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    15. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 3GHz clock isn't a problem.

      Actually, it can be. A friend works at Jodrell Bank, a major British radio telescope centre, and they've had problems replacing the old Suns with multi-gigahertz PCs whose clock frequencies are too close to the radio frequencies they're trying to detect with the telescopes.

      Even pretty humble stuff can get affected the stuff that gets pumped out by computers, probably most likely the lower frequencies you mentioned. Try an FM radio near a PC - you can pick up all sorts of awful buzzing noises...

    16. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Plastic cases for computers generally aren't plain plastic. I've got an old Mac which has a completely plastic case, but closer inspection shows that the interior is sprayed with conductive metal paint, providing the required shielding.

      There are laws governing this sort of thing. :-)

    17. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by deke_kun · · Score: 1

      Wanna see something fun? Well, my system is watercooled (please don't hurt me), and of course that means I have, inside my case, a pump. And of course, pumps of the magnitude required for PC use are all based on solenoids. Hence, they generate some marvelous electrical fields. Add that to the EMI the hardware itself makes, and you end up with a box so active that theres a minimum safe distance it can come to any monitor.

      It'd be a great way to entertain yourself when stoned though, put the box next to a monitor and lose yourself in the purty colours man!

    18. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by anethema · · Score: 1

      sounds reliable to me!

      haha just buggin.

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    19. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by psilosopher256 · · Score: 1

      If you hadn't made this comment, I would have had to :-)

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    20. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by Zebbers · · Score: 1

      would??

      DA

    21. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      Replying to both the smart guy above, and the guy above that :

      channel 4 is probably close to the bus (or a harmonic of) or the processor speed of a dx4/100. I'm pretty sure that channel 4 (in .au anyway) is centered around 100Mhz somewhere.

      Your pentium 3 on the other hand is likely to have a clock speed (in RF terms) above the UHF band, out of sight.

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    22. Re:Encouraging emi/rfi? by alienw · · Score: 1

      I'm speaking from experience. You are speaking out of your ass. Go read up on Faraday Cages and tell me where it says anything about wavelength.

  32. Where will this insanity end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What next? An LED that displays hard drive activity?

    1. Re:Where will this insanity end? by isny · · Score: 1

      I want a hard drive that looks like the Indus GT drive for the commodore 64. Searching on the web, I couldnt find anything but this, a pretty blurry picture. It had a numeric display stating which track the read/write head was on, or error code if something bad happened.

    2. Re:Where will this insanity end? by toddestan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I still have an old 286-12 made by a company called Everex that has an orange LED display on the front that tells what head and track the hard disk is on. It also works for the floppy disk drives too. During the POST it goes through messages telling what the computers is doing (DMA OK, FLPY OK, etc). The display came in handy multiple times for troubleshooting, and at the same time still looks cool. Makes it real easy to see when the disk drive needs a defraging too.

      It would be neat to get it going on a newer computer, but I don't think it is possible. The display is connected by a ribbon cable to the motherboard. The floppy and hard disk controllers are on a seperate 16 bit expansion card. The display still works if I swap out the conrollers, leading me to believe it's some function of the chipset. There is also the problem with any newer computer the numbers would whiz by way to fast to read though.

    3. Re:Where will this insanity end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm quite sure Maxtor makes one, but the LED is more for diagnostic purposes, and because it's located on the bottom of the drive is not even visible once the drive is installed.

    4. Re:Where will this insanity end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhhh....

      No, can someone else tell him?

    5. Re:Where will this insanity end? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps one for network activity!

      Or maybe one for keyboard or mouse activity.

    6. Re:Where will this insanity end? by tconnors · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps one for network activity!

      Sigh, I miss those old Sun keyboards.

      I did install tleds on my laptop, but whenever the keyboard LED light up, it interferes with DPMS on the display.

      My desktop doesn't have LEDs, because it is a wireless (why can't wireless keyboards have an LCD display - they don't drain the battery much).

    7. Re:Where will this insanity end? by tconnors · · Score: 1

      What next? An LED that displays hard drive activity?

      We have 16TB of the apple X-raids. The best feature about them? The blinkenlights. Blue ones. Very hipnotising.

      2 bar graph displays for activity (bi-colour?), plus a bi colour LED per drive (blue for something/green for something else)

      Very *drool*worthy.

    8. Re:Where will this insanity end? by MrEd · · Score: 1
      Wow, the wonders of the internet...


      I found an Everex 486DX33 at work that had been mothballing for years, the LED display at the top of the case (complete with turtle/rabbit switch) got me curious so I took it home and booted DOS up. Sure enough, it flashed the disk CHS, POST sequence, and looked very very cool.


      Then I tried Debian and wouldn't you know it, as soon as the kernel booted the little screen froze at the last sector of the kernel... Linux doesn't go through the BIOS to read disk sectors, so the LED display wasn't being updated anymore. Cool factor gone, I took it back to work and put it back in its little dust niche.


      A thought about the memory LEDs (just to keep this on topic) - wouldn't Linux be "in the red" all the time, as it fills up all the memory with cached disk data and other handy stuff?


      Or are the LEDs monitoring access frequency? I didn't read the article. ;)

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    9. Re:Where will this insanity end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have one of these on my pc. It's specifically designed for asus boards, and it's called an 'ipanel'. pretty silly name, but it's saved my hide more than once.

  33. MOD PARENT UP by LucidityZero · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Come on, guys! Don't mod it down just cause you have no history in you, and you don't understand! Will a mod who atleast understands how relevant the preceding post is do something to help it back up?

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    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP by Neillparatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Apparently you're new here. Let me explain to you how Slashdot's sense of humor works.

      Puerile joke: Always funny.

      Funny and ontopic reference: Never funny.

      Understand now?

  34. I want XMS with ECC by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Forget LEDs, I want high performance memory in ECC (unbuffered). That way, I can over clock the memory untill bit errors are detected, then back up on the over clocking. It would sure beat the hell out of tweaking untill you BSOD.

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    1. Re:I want XMS with ECC by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, where are the 1GB PC3200 ECC DIMMs? Forget LEDs; let's talk REAL memory.

  35. Mmm... more LEDs! by feidaykin · · Score: 5, Funny
    Anyone else like how the old BeBoxes had LED bars showing the CPU usage?

    I tell ya thems were the days sonny. It was always good to see my CPU usage back then... it helped relieve some of the stress of having to walk to school, uphill both ways, every day of the week, too, none of this "weekday" crap. That's how it was and WE LIKED IT, WE LOVED IT!

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    1. Re:Mmm... more LEDs! by jackb_guppy · · Score: 1

      I still have them on "my" new computers. IBM found that managers anc upper level management liked the lights from the old main frames and minis. So they install them today more for show.

      SO what do you mean that million dollar computer does not have a blinkiing light so we know that it is being used?

      Same idea as the blinking security light on your car's dashboard.

  36. It's Offtopic, You Tool Face by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So live with it


    ())=====D

    Mwah mwah.

    1. Re:It's Offtopic, You Tool Face by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It's Offtopic, You Tool Face

      It's not off topic, moron. Corsair making memory with blinking lights on it requires a reference to the classic "blinkenlights" warning.

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  37. What an incredible advance! by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    We've been trying to figure out for months how to make our data center more impressive when we take PHB's there on tours. This sounds like just the ticket!

    Everyone knows that you can tell the speed and worth of a server based on the number of blinking lights on the front of the display. Moving our switches up higher in the rack so that they were more visible did us a ton of good. Sounds like this whole memory lights thing may be the killer app that lets us charge for data center tours now!

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    1. Re:What an incredible advance! by RichardX · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of an old story - I've no idea if it's true, perhaps someone can shed some light.. anyways, back in the late 60's or early 70's some company, a bank, I think, or similar, decided to get themselves set up with a computer system. They decided to put the computer room near the front of the building, and make one of the walls glass, so that everyone who came in (especially investors, company bosses, etc) would see how high tech an operation they were running.

      However, when the system was installed, it turned out to be rather dull looking. Just a bunch of switch banks, and probably a few tape reels.. They realised this wasn't going to impress anyone, so they contacted a movie set design company, and got them to give it a makeover with lots of blinkenlights and little oscilliscope type displays, etc. And apparently, when the company bosses came to see, they left extremely impressed.

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    2. Re:What an incredible advance! by minion · · Score: 1

      We've been trying to figure out for months how to make our data center more impressive when we take PHB's there on tours. This sounds like just the ticket!

      Just keep them away from the aluminum power buttons. You know how PHBs are when it comes to shiny objects.

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    3. Re:What an incredible advance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What data center has an accounting group that OK's expenditures on movie company expenses for faking out executive visitors? Most places give you grief about wanting to buy some useful software.

  38. What is the intended use? by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously, is this aimed at professional people who can use it for system diagnostics? Or is it aimed at the happy 12 year old $random_famous_brand_name fanatics who think that a prefab window, along with prefab water cooling with prefab fanguards and of course the hideously bright blue LEDs?*

    *) With proper respect to true case modders, as featured on Slashdot before.

    1. Re:What is the intended use? by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Interesting

      the latter.

      the one that have much cash kind of latter.

      besides, what good diagnose can you get from these? if you intend to use a known faulty pair of ultra expensive memory(through somehow mapping the faulty area out of use, iirc there's a patch for linux for this) what's the point in buying ultra expensive showoff memory in the first place? and for knowing if it's faulty i'd think there's a lot of better ways than to look at some activity leds.

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    2. Re:What is the intended use? by MattBurke · · Score: 1

      Coolermaster make a range of 8cm fans which light up in all sorts of lame colours. However, they also do one which shines white! I've got to say I really do like these things - the illumination you get when you're fiddling under the desk is fantastic! Plus they're low RPM hence very quiet.

  39. Reverse Trend by alakon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Great-- I will now have a gigantic machine with rows and rows of blinking lights. Why the hell do we need this again?

    1. Re:Reverse Trend by Aerion · · Score: 1

      Except that this time you can't see the lights.

  40. Another Obligatory by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

    I don't have a transparent case, you insensitive clod!

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  41. Re:newsdry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Don't ask.

    I submitted two stories this week, both rejected. One was about the somewhat serious issue that London's power blackout a few weeks ago turned out to be, supposedly, because a 1 amp fuse blew. This raises somewhat serious design issues. Rejected.

    A second issue, much more to Slashdotters tastes, concerns a law being considered by the UK parliament that'll require all websites to deposit copies of themselves with UK libraries. The logistics of such an exercise, alone, would make you think Slashdot readers would be interested in such things.

    But no. Instead we get LEDs in memory chips and home made silly putty. WTF?

  42. top down picture by digitalsushi · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:top down picture by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 2, Funny

      The LEDs aren't bright enough!

      Soon, RAMmodding will be all the rage. Get them really big, bright LEDs installed on the RAM.

      And think of the gaming advantages, if you have bright enough LEDs, and can write an app to control them, you can flash them at the frequencies that induce seizures. Think of it! You can mess with other players at the LAN party and gain a tactical advantage as your opponents lay twitching and drooling by their computers.

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    2. Re:top down picture by i_am_nitrogen · · Score: 1

      I'm going to laugh when somebody burns out the power supply on their motherboard (yes, on the motherboard) because the lights on their RAM used too much power.

  43. How fast are LEDs? by ressu · · Score: 1

    I sure hope they can find LEDs that blink fast enough, it would be a shame if the led couldn't blink fast enough and would slow the memory down..

    1. Re:How fast are LEDs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea. Good thing the hard drive LEDs we all use are fast enough to keep up with hard drive speeds. I'm not so sure in the RAM case though, the LEDs might be the bottleneck.

  44. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS, BOY?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those transparent side panels, the ones I spent $16 on, plus $3.95S+H, that you said was merely for basement-dwelling lusers, well what do you think now, HUH?

  45. Blickenlichten by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Oh boy. More crap for people with more money than brains. Let's see.....

    - Case which looks like it was designed by a liberal arts drop-out (and windows so we can see the dust bunnies grow): X dollars
    - Lights for the inside of the computer (to highlight the dust bunnies): Y dollars
    - And now, blicking LEDs inside the computer (well, at least it doesn't bring out the dust bunnies): Z dollars
    Being able to remove all doubt you're a first order stupid dork: Priceless.

    Yeah, go ahead and mod this as a troll.. Proves the point, doesn't it.

    1. Re:Blickenlichten by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Clever! If we mod you as a troll, we've proved your point... if we don't, then you stay at the same level... if we reply, we look like gigantic... aw, shit.

      Nice job getting that +1, insightful though, since all the insight this comment required was reading the FORTY THOUSAND OTHER comments that said the exact same thing.

  46. except ... by haraldm · · Score: 1

    ... that this feature makes about as much sense as the pope's scrotum.

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    1. Re:except ... by DoraLives · · Score: 2, Funny

      You're saying that the Pope's scrotum comes equipped with blinkenlights?

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    2. Re:except ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I wish my scrotum came equpped with blinkenlights. That would be cool.

      I'd have a free light show, when I'm alone in the dark, making sweet love.

  47. ..Pretty Lights.. by phuturephunk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Being a visual-spatial person I'd have to say this is a pretty good idea. As far as we've come we pretty much still like to look at the 'pretty lights', yano? Some kind of indicator that what we've built is actually doing something. Helps to bridge the gap between our fascination with machinery and the circutry that we build, which inherantly doesn't inspire the awe of say..an industrial sized crane, because of its lack of moving parts.

    People like to 'see' an indicator that what they've built is actually working..Its comforting in a Man-machine sort of way. You could easily see if a bank was out (as someone mentioned before), but then again you'd know that when you tried to boot the machine. ..I think an interesting application of this would be to attach a bank of lights that could vary in intensity depending on power usage to the banks. One could test various in-case heat levels and actually observe the usage levels of electricity inside different parts of the ram as temperature rose. I dunno, I'm grasping here.. ...Pretty lights!!..

  48. Re:Bad Karma by GeekDork · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    So instead the USAians eradicated the natives and now they all speak some kind of pseudo-English and eat burgers. Yes, I see what you mean.

    Just putting it back in perspective. Keep on flaming, old fart.

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  49. Server Go Melty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hur Hur Melty server melty...

  50. i'll wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    i'm waiting till my 512MB chip has 536,870,912 lights on it...not gonna buy it any sooner...

    1. Re:i'll wait by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      That'd only get you one light for each Kbyte. Instead, multiply by 1024 to get bytes, then by 8 to get one light for each bit. Now *that* would be impressive!

      Oh yeah, each light would need to be labelled. :)

  51. Re:Bad Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, instead they get English (sic) and Coke-a-cola shoved down their throuts.

  52. Re:newsdry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's because your stories involved the UK. Nobody outside the UK cares what goes on in the UK. LEDs in memory chips and silly putty are much more interesting than the UK.

  53. See... by rmdyer · · Score: 1

    ...what you can buy when you don't have to pay for your OS?

    +1

  54. Please, no ClearCase mods by iamacat · · Score: 1

    I don't want my computer to take 15 seconds to open one file, be down a day every week and require a full-time administrator for 5 users. I assume a typical ClearCase system has EMF emission of a nuclear blast, because it sure has a similar effect on productivity.

    How about a nice CVS mod?

  55. "Pretty soon"? by quacking+duck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whaddya mean, "pretty soon"? People are already removing Windows in droves!

    1. Re:"Pretty soon"? by michrech · · Score: 1

      Whaddya mean, "pretty soon"? People are already removing Windows in droves!

      If you keep telling yourself that, it might come true!

      (As I type this from a Gentoo box inside of Mozilla-Firebird)

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  56. Help! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm running Windows and my RAM LEDs are not blinking, they are simply ALWAYS ON!

  57. Re:Bad Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How quickly you forget that the US would still be a british colony, if not for French intervention. Brush up on the history books, young lad.

  58. Damn! by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 1

    Why didn't I ever think of that? I used the C000- video area from time to time when I was only using text mode (aah, nothing like 704k of DOS memory), but why didn't I enable this?

    GAAAAAH!

    *bangs head*

    There, better now. Where was I? Ohyes, I need another 512M to play PlanetSide better...

  59. Like the Sun 3/60... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well I think that was one of the versions that had something similar, but for CPU usage. A row of about 5 or 6 LED's used to swish left and right ala Knight Rider at a bit of speed, and as the machine got bogged down with CPU heavy jobs the pattern used to slow right down..

    Or was it the other way round.. I can't remeber. Cool none the less - wouldn't mind something similar to stick into a floppy drive blanking plate :)

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    1. Re:Like the Sun 3/60... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 1

      Further to this, did a little reading up and found that once the system checks (and corresponding LED's had lit up or gone out) the OS was actually in control of the LED sequence.. I think the example used was that SunOS used to make the LEDs light up pretty quickly ala Knight Rider and as CPU threads became more active it would slow right down whereas NetBSD would just have a slow ticking LED going from left to right.

      Pointless but interesting none the less.

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    2. Re:Like the Sun 3/60... by ameoba · · Score: 1

      I remember an old ESDI controller (16-bit ISA) I had for a while had these same sorts of Knight Rider lights. Not only did they jump during drive activity, but they were used to display error codes.

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    3. Re:Like the Sun 3/60... by ColaMan · · Score: 1

      I've got a MSI mainboard now with some sort of diagnostic-POST sequence-set of leds on the back. 4 red-green leds give you 16 stages of the boot process.

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    4. Re:Like the Sun 3/60... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to have a PCI DPT RAID controller that did that when there were no drives attached

  60. Re:newsdry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ever read The Register?

  61. Re:newsdry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, Should I?

  62. Re:Casemodding won't be cool when it's the standar by canajin56 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hehe, the only thing on MY case is a compiler construction textbook, the remote control for my industrial fan, and a pizza sauce encrusted plate. And the only thing PERMENANTLY on my case...is the pizza plate, sadly. I shoudln't have let the cheese set ;)

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  63. Watch out for that trick on laptops by orangepeel · · Score: 1

    Years and years ago I made the mistake of trying that trick to increase the memory available on a laptop. That memory range isn't just reserved for monochrome display adapters ... some laptops used/use it too for their displays.

    I'll always remember booting that Gateway Colorbook 2 laptop up, only to see the screen go completely blank as EMM386 loaded. It had me really worried until I realized what was happening. Thank god for that floppy boot disk. :-)

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    1. Re:Watch out for that trick on laptops by msgmonkey · · Score: 2, Informative

      Eeek all CGA, EGA, and VGA+ adapters use B800-BFFF for text mode. The only problem I had was with TSENG (remember them?) graphics cards in Windows, they would enable that extra 32K for a larger 128K that meant less bank switching. The only thing I can think of is that your laptop had some kind of ROM mapped into that area.

    2. Re:Watch out for that trick on laptops by orangepeel · · Score: 1

      Eeek all CGA, EGA, and VGA+ adapters use B800-BFFF for text mode

      Either that is incorrect, or the parent poster has specified the wrong memory range. I can't remember the correct range for certain.

      This trick worked on scores of systems with a variety of VGA adapters, so I presume we're talking about different memory ranges. The ability to force inclusion of particular memory ranges (/I switch) was a documented feature of EMM386. The MS DOS help file for EMM386 actually mentioned the specific address range used by monochrome adapters in the extended detail "Notes" section.

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  64. not real time stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Ok, memory access is running at say 200MHz (everybody is faster than that these days). Now that implies 5ns pulses. The human eye has trouble detecting shorter than about 10-20ms. Therefore the LED's are not real-time indicators, instead they must be integrating signal corresponding to the the memory accesses.

  65. Turn that into the spoil-o-meter (TM) by KlausB · · Score: 1

    > Anyone else like how the old BeBoxes had LED bars showing the CPU usage?

    Remember your granddad telling you about how in the old days, people would have two-digit 7-segment indicators on their computers to tell the speed of the cpu they would have liked to have in their box ?

    Combine that with your CPU-usage speed-bar into the spoil-o-meter (TM) !

    When you buy your latest 357 BogoHZ Nonium IIXXX Cpu at $998, put the next smaller CPUs you considered buying into a list, along with their price and computing power relative to CPU you eventually bought.

    That would be the 337 BogoHZ Nonium IIXXX at $698, the 250 BogoHZ Celeronium XXV at $123, and the surplus 66MHz 486DX you found in your scrap heap at $0.

    Then write a utility that displays the difference in price between your current CPU, and the cheapest one in the list whose computing power would just exceed your current cpu load, on a three-digit 7-segment display.

    If you begin to feel depressed, install "SETI AT HOME" - or Windows XP.

  66. I rember when case modding was..... by Felinoid · · Score: 1

    Please not I tried to put this in order but I know some of them are compleatly out of place...
    Example I list the Apple II fans AFTER the "I built my PC" case stickers. By the time you could get those stickers the Apple II fans were long discontinued...

    I remember when case modding was adding a lable to a S-100 computer to lable it's function.
    Taping over the key caps on a terminal so users would know what the Micro keys were programmed to do.
    And taping industructions to the desk.

    and then there was the brackets to keep people from walking off with newer home computers (Vic 20, C64, Coco)

    Or just ripping the lable off the computer so when you do your video or movie your not advertising for the computer manufacter. Forget that the computers were distictive back then and could be spotted a mile away.

    Or ripping the lable off becouse your a board 15 year old.

    Then there was replacing your Apple II case with one that had the number pad built in the case.
    Replacing your Commodore 64 case with a nifty C128 style sloped front.

    Reloading the springs in the Commodore 64 keyboard to make it a little better for typing.

    Painting the Mac case to look pritty.

    Then there was the 64K Atari XL.. Not 64K ram.. 64 carrot.... dimands...

    Modifying the PC case for better air flow.
    Actually removing the IBM logo off classic IBM brand PCs and slapping them on kit builds.

    The "I built my PC" case logos

    Apple II fans to improve airflow.
    Mac powers strips to put the button in reach.

    Reset button (If one already existed relocated to be easier or harder to reach)

    Reset button cut (or modified to be harder to push such as two buttons in two diffrent locations both must be pressed at the same time thus reducing the chance of an accadental reset)

    Unpluging internal speaker. Routing internal speaker to external speaker with volume control. Putting a switch on internal speaker to turn on and off.

    Case mounted temp display so you can tell how how the computer is running.

    drive bay fans.

    vareous cooling systems.

    Turnning a dorm fridge into a PC case.
    (With negitive results)

    reinforcing the CD rom tray so it actually will hold stuff.

    System status LCD display to tell how many users are on, what the time is, how hot the system is or stock/news ticker.

    Tower case
    Rack mount case
    Stereo cabnet fitting case.
    All in one case.
    Lugable case.

    People who do this stuff also buy up computer hardware just to do this driving the cost of same down so the rest of us can not only afford it but get it at really cheap prices.

    And some of this finds it's way back into the mainstream PC design.

    So mod on guys... Mod on...
    And hay find a cheap way to modle plastic so your technology can be applied to every day items like clocks and bring the cost of same down.

    And if someone could come up with a way to use plastic for radio interfearence shilding even better. Conductive plastics hmmmmm.

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    1. Re:I rember when case modding was..... by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      But can anyone remember putting the dealer-supplied strips of black tape over some of the perforated holes on the front of the inside of the original IBM PC to improve airflow over certain parts of the board?!!

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    2. Re:I rember when case modding was..... by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 1

      My God, you are the most illiterate computer geek I have ever read a rant from. You have nearly more misspelled words than correctly spelled ones.
      compleatly lable your pritty accadental vareous cabnet hay modle interfearence shilding. Party on, dude!

  67. Movie Reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Sir, these lights keep blinking out of sequence"

    "Get them to blink IN sequence."

    Lines from airplane 2, one of them spoken by our favorite kiptin.

  68. Better stock up on those beige cases... by leeet · · Score: 1

    They will be cool soon. Especially those darker beige.

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  69. Actually, the entire Sun VME series by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 1

    Those LEDs first displayed pre-boot CPU status. If the machine failed to get to the point where the graphics interface was active, you could look at the LED display and get some idea of what was wrong.

    Once the machine came up and running, the light would bounce back and forth just like Knight Rider. There is a mod out there someplace for building an 8-LED display for the PC parallel port. Back in the 1.x days, there was a corresponding Linux Kernel driver to make the LEDs show load average much like on the Sun.

    I've seen the bouncing LEDs on the 3/50, 3/60, 3/110. 3/160 and 3/260. I assume all the VME based suns had it.

  70. Re:newsdry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's because your stories involved the UK. Nobody outside the UK cares what goes on in the UK. LEDs in memory chips and silly putty are much more interesting than the UK.

    Speak for yourself. Not a flame, but your comment sounds typical of many Americans I've met.

  71. Oh, fun by aonifer · · Score: 2, Insightful
    • Case with a window on it, with a Quake applique on it.
    • Boards with different, clashing colors.
    • Cables with different, clashing colors (preferrably glow-in-the-dark).
    • LEDs on the fans.
    • LEDs on the memory.
    • Purple flourescent tube.
    • Fan guards shaped like the biohazard symbol.
    You, too can have the tackiest case ever!

    Seriously, I had a hard time finding a case without a window on it. No, I don't need a window; I know it's all in there.

  72. Visual indication of poor memory/swap handling by AsmordeanX · · Score: 1

    Great now you can peak inside your computer to see the HDD LED on your swap/virtual drive flashing like it belongs at a rave while your DIMMs quietly do nothing.

    This sort of feature is bound to introduce paranoia.

  73. W.O.P.R. by koa · · Score: 2, Funny

    A little tweaking and we can have case mods that are just like the WOPR from WarGames!

    yay.

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    1. Re:W.O.P.R. by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 1

      Hahaha, god bless you. As soon as I saw this thread, I came in and searched for 'wargames', and at least one other person was thinking exactly the same thing as I was.

      I loved that movie.

    2. Re:W.O.P.R. by koa · · Score: 1

      Rock on!

      Maybe now we can make our PC's endlessly play TIC-TAC-TOE and watch the Memory LEDs freak out until they go solid.

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  74. Is that the Canonical One? by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    /usr/share/games/fortunes/science has one too (Search for ACHTUNG) but it's pretty abbreviated. I seem to recall it being longer in college days, but I suspect that the school I encountered this fortune at had a different file. That was a decade and a half ago, too, and stuff tends to get lost.

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  75. Re:newsdry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another bit of sarcasm that gets taken seriously. My god, people need to relax.

  76. Re:newsdry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If it makes you feel any better, as the poster who was being replied to by the sarcasm, I knew it was sarcasm. Sometimes it doesn't feel too far from the truth though.

    Silly putty. For crying out loud, SILLY PUTTY. Every website in the UK, and possibly even every website outside of there, is going to have to be copied and stored in British libraries, at the expense of the website owners, and Slashdot's more interested in goo?

    If I had an attention span longer than Malda's I'd probably be furio... oh look, pretty colours!

  77. Dictionary.com explains the different version... by Andorion · · Score: 3, Informative

    Try here.

    ~Berj

  78. LED's to indicate bad RAM by forevermore · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Activity lights are nothing. Relatively useless in the grand scheme of things (except they'd make a wonderful addition to a good case mod)... The new Intel Blade Servers (sorry, no link, they're not released until Tuesday - you might try searching for the IBM ones, since they're pretty much the same hardware) have an LED next to each RAM slot that lights up when the stick dies (there's a capacitor on the board that keeps 30-40 seconds worth of electricity, so the LED's will stay lit up when you remove the blades from the chassis).

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    1. Re:LED's to indicate bad RAM by rjasmin · · Score: 1

      Isn't it that almost all new Intel boardh have diagnostic LEDs? SCB2 (old MB for dual-PIII) does. And not only for memory but for CPUs and some other parts of the board, if I remember correctly.
      Quite a usefull thing really, saved me a lot of trouble when one DIMM went bad..

    2. Re:LED's to indicate bad RAM by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 1

      That sounds just like IBM's Light Path Diagnostics.

    3. Re:LED's to indicate bad RAM by forevermore · · Score: 1

      Same stuff. The blade servers are/were a joint project between IBM and Intel. IBM has had their servers available for awhile, but Intel has just finished their side of things, and is opening up the market a bit so you can buy them from more than one source (the Intel blades are also a bit nicer from a physical-design standpoint - better mounting, etc.)

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    4. Re:LED's to indicate bad RAM by Diomidis+Spinellis · · Score: 1
      You don't necessarily need LEDs to locate bad RAM. I remember locating a bad RAM chip on a TI-99/4A computer in 1984 by finding that one of the eight 4116 (16K * 1 bit) memory chips was colder than the rest. I soldered in a new chip and the machine worked like new.

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  79. Re:newsdry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another bit of sarcasm that gets taken seriously. My god, people need to relax.

    The last thing this world needs is *more* sarcasm. Do something positive in the world.

  80. makes it faster by Zed2K · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cause we all know that the more obnoxious lights and blinking crap you have visible makes your computer run faster. Kinda like placing a Type-R logo on you Honda Civic.

    1. Re:makes it faster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of the kids who put noise amplifying exhausts on their Civics. As if more noise=more power. When my exhaust rusts through and I start hearing it make a racket I have never noticed my Toyota turning into a Ferrari.

  81. How soon before fans are quired... by caferace · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...just to keep the LED's cool.

    STOP the Madness!

  82. Why people do case mods by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems to me that there are two kind of people who go in for case modding. On the one hand, you have your causual modders. They like pre-fab windows. Might add a cold cathode light and some round cables. These represent perhaps the majority.

    However, then you have the real "hard core" modders. The kind of people who build their computers in to old radios. The kind of people who want to do some special cooling project, or who want to have a unique case. My personal favorites are the concept cases, and mods that have some practical purpose (like better temperature monitoring for servers etc). They want to be creative. It's not just about pimpage.

    This memory seems to be for members for the first catagory.

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    1. Re:Why people do case mods by IM6100 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I did my first 'case mod' back in about 1986 when I built my first 'PC' machine.

      I had picked up one of those 63.5 watt IBM-PC power supplies at a swapmeet. I had bought an XT-clone motherboard. I had bought a Leading Edge Model D case (empty). I'd bought an IBM MDA display card and disk controller, and two 360K floppies.

      I got it all home and said 'Hmmm'. The motherboard didn't fit into the case. The bracket spacing on the Model D was different from the standard XT layout. The Power supply didn't fit into the case either. It was a standard (real IBM actually) 'XT' type power supply (but pre-XT as it was from an original PC.

      I carved away a lot of the bracket frames in the Leading Edge case and used metal standoffs and screws to bolt in the XT-clone motherboard. I completely removed the power supply from it's case and mounted it at the right place in the old Leading Edge case using more metal standoffs and screws. I mounted in the floppy drives, plugged in all 640K of RAM (I'd found it cheap at a surplus store- about $8 each for 256Kx1 chips).

      It all worked. I used that machine for years. There weren't any flashing lights. There weren't really any lights at all unless the A: drive or the B: drive was in use.

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  83. Joy another thing to bring up prices by Bruha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously case prices have done nothing but go up in the last year or so with many of the vanilla boxes not being stocked anymore. Though I've had my eye on a prefab'd watercooled case for awhile due to the noise levels I still have not seen the prices of it go down where I'd consider it acceptable.

    If you consider the case which retails for maybe 100 dollars and a pump that runs 30 dollars and another 30 for hoses and such I still dont see the point of paying 300 for a case for that amount of silence. And there's still the amount of heat that's being output into the house to deal with. I'm considering installing a duct from the office room to a window or through the wall to pipe all the excess heat out of the house.

    I'm sure I'd make it back on the 300 dollar case by pumping all that hot air back outside except in the winter when I wouldnt mind it being put into the house :)

    1. Re:Joy another thing to bring up prices by IM6100 · · Score: 1

      From my vantage point, case prices have gone down.

      I got a full-tower ATX case last week for $15 at auction. Incidentally, it had a Pentium II on a motherboard, a CD-ROM, an Adaptec UW SCSI controller with a 4.6GB wide SCSI drive. When I powered it up it had Netware on top of MS-DOS on it.

      I buy hardly anything new these days. If you're going to be picky about used gear, what you do is buy a new brand-name power supply for the old case.

      The cases these days are shiny plastic junk. Or overengineered hulks with cooling systems that make them sound like the dehumidifier down in the cellar. I sorta blame Apple for introducing the concept of 'fashion' to cases. The hell with that.

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  84. Re:Bad Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    America "layed the smackdown" eh?

    I think Soviet Russia would have shown the Americans and the Germans the true meaning "blitzkrieg", and right now we would all be speaking Russian and writing in Cyrillic if it wasn't for the joint efforts of Britain and America in their taming of the Big Red Machine (Soviet Russia for those out there who can not comprehend metaphors)...
    As for the situation with the French and the american Revolution, we would not be an independent country today without the joint efforts of France (Marquis de Layfayette), Spain (Senor Galveston brought the Spanish Carribbean fleet to break the British blockade), Holland (who assisted by donating money to the war effort), and various German soldiers (such as Baron von Steuben, the man who trained tthe Continental Army at Valley Forge)

  85. 3/4 million lights on my memory by Ella+the+Cat · · Score: 2, Funny

    1024x768 display with shared memory. Hah!

  86. Re:Casemodding won't be cool... by alib001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    People who rice up their PCs should be locked in a large cage with people who rice up their cars

    No way! The last time that happended 2 Fast 2 Furious was created. Think of the consequences, man!

  87. Leakage from Optical Emissions Concern (Tempest) by eriksmithtex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Call me a little paranoid but this reminds me of the data leakage problems of some communication devices (Modems, DSU's, etc). Have to 'nix the plexiglass case mod now 8->. Here is the article: Information Leakage from Optical Emissions or Google HTML here

  88. Nothing new here, move on.... by RetroGeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    The original mainframes and minis had lights which were wired into the CPU registers. You could see what each register was doing by looking at the banks of blinking lights.

    Computer teaching boxen had LED's which were wired into memory locations (you could choose which location via DIP switches). You could tell what each memory location held by looking at the banks of blinking lights.

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  89. Re:newsdry? by the_real_tigga · · Score: 1

    Cynism.
    It is full of Cynism. Sarcasm is what sometimes makes it beareable.

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  90. Profiling by SiMac · · Score: 1

    The first thing I thought of when I saw this is that it might be useful for profiling complex algorithms. You might be able to get a general idea of how many times you were missing the cache, etc.

    Of course, a cache miss indicator would be a lot more useful, but this might do something.

    1. Re:Profiling by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 1

      If you want to do memory profiling, use a profiler; it's much cheaper than buying funky RAM and staring at the blinkenlights until you go cross-eyed.

  91. PDP-11/70 by Detritus · · Score: 1

    They might have swiped that from the PDP-11/70. It had an 8-bit display register. RSX-11M, and I assume other DEC operating systems, had a SYSGEN option that added code to the task scheduler to put a oscillating pattern in the display register.

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  92. Error-Correcting Indicator? by pipingguy · · Score: 1

    I think the red LED should be used on ECC RAM to indicate which exact bit caused my registered DDR to create a BSOD. I'll just watch carefully through my case window and shut down the system before the offending bit gets to the output of the DIMM.

    1. Re:Error-Correcting Indicator? by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 1

      Damn, you're fast. I can barely make it to the keyboard to choose from my LILO menu at boot, and you can power down between clock cycles. You must be running below 1Hz. Good one.

    2. Re:Error-Correcting Indicator? by beezly · · Score: 1

      If your machine BSOD'd because of a memory error, then either you don't have ECC memory, or you had a multibit error. ECC can only fix single bit memory errors, although it can *detect* multi-bit errors. Parity ram can't reliably detect multi bit errors, and it can never fix errors.

      Now, when will we see mirrored ECC memory on PC's? For a while Sun used to use Mirrored E-cache on the UltraSparc II cpus (don't know if new USIIs do this) because of problems with E$ parity errors on USII's. Basically the way it worked is to have mirrored E$ with parity. When one mirror fails its parity check, use and refresh it from the other mirror. Expensive way to fix the manufacturing problem, but it worked.

  93. War Games lives by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Remember the "Wopper" super-computer in War Games? It had a deep pulsing hum and was lit up like Vegas. We kind of laughed at it as Hollywood overdoing something, but it may just be back in style now.

  94. Another article on this same memory by ThePythonicCow · · Score: 1
    Since it seems that the dvhardware web page linked to from this article has been slash dotted, I see that there is another article on this memory at:
    The Guru of 3D:
    Corsair XMS ProSeries DDR Modules
  95. Re:Casemodding won't be cool when it's the standar by M.+Silver · · Score: 1

    /me looks fondly at the dead-plain, black, monolithic PC case under his desk, adorned with nothing but a small case badge that bears a photo of an F-117.

    I'll see you and raise you... well, lower you a boring beige mini-tower with two missing 5 1/4" drive-bay covers (I should replace those and vacuum out the cat hair), a non-seated floppy drive (the missing drive-bay covers mean I can hold onto the drive when I'm putting a disk in, which is never) and a missing reset button (actually, the turbo button is missing, but I moved the reset button over there because it kept getting bumped). At least the LEDs work: one green for power, one red for drive activity. It looks every bit the P-166 it is.

    (Not that I'm looking for pity or anything; it's just a glorified terminal, quite adequate for what I use it for (reading Slashdot, obviously). There's a nice X-term sitting in the living room waiting to replace it. Beige pizza-box, but at least it's all in one piece, and has a 20" screen attached. But if I can't connect my ten-year-old extra-clicky IBM keyboard to it, I'll be very sad.)

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  96. Fairy lights by zaphod_es · · Score: 1

    I don't have a data center to play with; my budget is much more modest. As a compromise I have draped the Christams tree lights around my computer. Coool!

  97. Re:newsdry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every website in the UK, and possibly even every website outside of there, is going to have to be copied and stored in British libraries

    So I hear, but it doesn't bother me. I have no intentions of following such a stupid law, and I doubt anyone else in their right mind would either. Its really just a silly consequence of poor wording in a draft law anyway; its not a concrete intention. I expect it will be changed before it is passed.

  98. jeebus by ls+-lR · · Score: 1

    Does it also come with a huge wing on the rear deck and a muffler that would shame a Costco-sized can of Maxwell House? Does it have a huge "Corsair" logo across the windshield?

    FFS, this is just a silly gimmick. It's just screaming out "pay more for this! You already paid for all those other stupid LEDs, why not me!"

  99. And the Irwin Allen computer is born... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...after all, aren't all computers supposed to have row after row of blinking lights?!

  100. Brains by krumms · · Score: 1

    I misread this article at first. I kept substituting the word 'memory' with 'brain' for some reason ...

    Just so the rest of you are crystal, this article is not about little lights that flash when you think about stuff.

    How cool it would be to get on a bus and see a row of guys wearing these flashing lights on their foreheads, which in turn are flickering wildly as they nervously glance over at the blonde a few rows in front :P

  101. WOPR by polyp2000 · · Score: 1

    Now that Would look like the WOPR !

    http://www.calarts.edu/~nstrum/macmame/reviews/war rev/warpages/joshua.html

    Which is just what I have always desired, to complete my world domination plans ....

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  102. Vulnerability! by skinfitz · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the optical vulnerability whereby the data being passed over an external modem could be read optically resulting in paranoid admins putting masking tape over the front.

    So if the lights on the memory flash as data is accessed, it may be possible to read that data optically.

  103. I want to see ... by Arnulf · · Score: 1
    ... a setup with, well, 8 rows and a program which can use the memory in such a fashion that these rows display a letter or a digit.

    Who will be the first?

    -Arnulf

  104. Re:Casemodding won't be cool when it's the standar by ChaoticLimbs · · Score: 1

    My next casemod is going to be a solid black monolith with a hidden cover for the drive bay access. It will look like a polished solid black rectangular box with no details. Kinda 2001 style. No lights whatsoever, and watercooled with only one 120mm silent low speed fan.

  105. Have this already for my old Mac IIci by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was a diagnostic card sold for the Macintosh several years back that had several red blinking LEDs for clock pulse, adb (Apple desktop bus) and other activity. Ran plastic tubing from these LEDs to the front of the case to show the regularly blinking lights.

    With more blinking lights in the computer then it will make more show to have a case with a window in it. You will really see the computer working now.

  106. Because you can't have too much heat in a PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not just hook up a heating element while they're at it?

    Granted, flashing LEDs won't be the greatest source of heat, but I know from experience that LEDs can get pretty darn hot.

  107. The infamous Video Hole by The+Monster · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The trick was (if I remember correctly) adding /I=B000-B7FFF to 32K more "upper" memory since that memory area was only used for monochrome video cards..
    And even then, you couldn't get MSCDEX to load in it, because it took up more than 32K before it went resident (at just over 28K, IIRC). So I wrote a little utility package (2 TSRs and 2 drivers) that let you 'borrow' memory from the color text area at B8000-BFFFF, then recall the 'loan' after the transient part was returned to the OS.

    I released that thing as shareware (There's even one site that Google knows about that still has VID_HOLE.ZIP [for their subscribers], which actually works under Win9x for Real Mode drivers) but nobody ever sent me the $5 registration. I wonder if anyone (other than I) ever found a use for the thing?

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  108. whats the point? by bscabl · · Score: 1

    whats the point if you dont have a case mod to see the lights?

  109. Re:Dictionary.com explains the different version.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    from that web page:
    The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, (C) 1993-2003 Denis Howe

    Really now. What does ESR think of that?

  110. Re:top down picture - and here's the video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.corsairmicro.com/main/images/Web1.mov

    Kinda cheesy video and Andy looks the wankah, but it's got some nifty blinky lights so let's slashdot it anyway.

  111. Give one to your PHB! by Licensed2Hack · · Score: 1

    1) Next time your PHB "needs" a new PC get one of these factory mod cases with a window.

    2) Install these fancy new RAM modules with the blinking lights as well as some of the other things you can see at any LAN party.

    3) Profit!

    Note: ALL PHBs love blinking lights.

  112. Re:newsdry? by Thu+Anon+Coward · · Score: 1

    its not a concrete intention. I expect it will be changed before it is passed.

    and that is exactly why you will be wondering the reason why the day they haul YOU off to the Gulag because you refused to do anything about preventing it from being passed in the first place

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  113. Porn music? by kni52 · · Score: 1

    Anyone else wondering why they decided on porn music for the video clip advertising this? (here http://www.corsairmicro.com/main/images/Web1.mov)

    Maybe gamers (who this is aimed at) also need extreme memory for their porn too.

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  114. DOSMax and friends by Licensed2Hack · · Score: 1

    I used to use DOSMax, SHELLMax and ENVMax. Don't have any memory stats, but google found this. QEMM386.SYS + DOXMax and friends gave him 644,384 (629K) conventional memory free. And he has a ton of stuff loaded high. (SMARTDRV? GAG!!)

    I think I once got a SVGA system to recognize 704KB. I must have been able to use the A000 segment somehow. Some programs that played around a bit with memory (there were many back then) freaked on that setup.

    1. Re:DOSMax and friends by i_am_nitrogen · · Score: 1

      I once had that happen on accident. I bought an old used computer with a Trident video card that also had an onboard IDE, floppy, serial, parallel I/O controller (what the crap?). I could never get it to do anything graphical, and the motherboard BIOS was reporting 704KB of memory. Only after reading this thread do I realize that's what was happening. Crazy video card...

  115. Why LEDs, not jumpers? by jrrl · · Score: 2

    My inner casemodder wonders why things like this include LEDs, rather than sockets/jumpers onto which you could put your own LEDs. I mean, motherboards use jumpers for you to attach LEDs for drive activity, power, etc., so why not network cards, usb and pci buses, keyboard and mouse channels, memory, etc. Then you could REALLY have a disco on the side of your case.

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  116. One thing needed ... by ProfMoriarty · · Score: 1
    ... have a cable hooked up from your RAM to a drive bay faceplate. This way you can see the activity of your RAM without the need to allow more EMI/RF out. And this would be beneficial to those case-mod people.

    On the plus, hopefully all of the other RAM manufacturers will see this as the way of the future, and lower the price of their "obsolete" LED-less RAM.

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  117. Man, this would really increase my geek factor by Nerodias · · Score: 1

    Oh, I guess I misunderstood what kind of memory they meant. So they are talking about computer memory here?

    I clicked on the Read more link 'cuz I thought they were talking about LED's that would show when my memory was being accessed. Jeez, I could be a real babe magnet with a couple rows of lights blinking frantically across my forehead.

    Why doesn't someone invent some of those, eh? It would really bring in the chicks, I'm sure. Like, maybe, buttloads.

  118. nothing more than a geek catcher feature by webmaker · · Score: 0, Troll

    worthless feature, pointless effort, Geek catcher!

  119. IMSAI by mattr · · Score: 1
    I got hold of an IMSAI when I was younger, it went well with my apple II and teletype.. anyway boy did it have LEDs. You had to enter programs into it by flipping toggle switches, each LED was a bit.

    Unfortunately I got talked into my folks giving it to a guy when I was away who said he was making something for handicapped, which I don't think every materialized. That was dumb!

    I wouldn't mind having some LEDs to show what each key on the keyboard was, it would probably be relaxing. Maybe a software version is not that hard but not sure it would be as pleasing.

  120. Great idea! by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 1

    Video memory with a built in high resolution LCD display.

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  121. Post Probe by Hecatonchires · · Score: 1

    Is a card that plugs into the pci bus with some 8panel led's on it. On boot, displays the post codes. Cross-reference the code displayed when the system halts with the table in the accompanying book for your bios and voila - u know what the problem is. Good for systems which don't make it to loading the OS.

    There are various other types of these cards.

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  122. Long live the FLI instruction! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I knew it... I knew it... All I had to do was wait about 20 years and the FLI instruction would come back into vogue... Buwahahahahahahahahaha... I shall riSE again!

    * FLI was an instruction on the PDP-7 series if I recall correctly which flashed the front panel lights impressively until executed again...

  123. who needs top/taskmgr by benpeter · · Score: 1

    Just open your box (although if you're the type of person buying this stuff it's probably already in a fish bowl flashing like a deranged disco ball on your desk) and impress your friends as you start up your favourite raytracer with an obscene polygon count as you take the memory into the "red zone", wow! Cool man, so interactive and all I need to do is take of the thumb screws and crawl under my desk to check out the light show.

  124. Influence on prices? by spectrokid · · Score: 1

    Seriously, heatsinks (and blinkenlights) seem to crawl up everywhere. First it was the CPU, then GPU, now chipset, GB ethernet and memory. What is this going to do to PC prices? Do we need a new motherboard factor completely designed around "the mother of all heatsinks"? How long before heat-transfer costs more than the actual components?

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  125. Re:Casemodding won't be cool when it's the standar by rickmccl · · Score: 1
    Black isn't plain, it is a trend from the previous decade. Don't you remember beige?

    Some wanker always has to pipe up and say he dont get what the deal is, and offer offensive comparisons to the import "tuner" scene. Not that I am offended by the import tuner scene, but if you were to call it "crackering up" my PC I would be personally offended. If you're so sure it will blow over, then please just wait it out and stop making an ass of yourself.

    Aren't I allowed to have a hobby? I've learned many interesting things by sanding my computer instead of growing fat in front of it. Did I ever lord it over you, or force you to look? If I was even trying to make you jealous, I'd say it was working. Having an original idea and creating it with my own two hands will always be cool, that *IS* the standard. Doing difficult work -- and doing it well -- with tools and physical labor will always be respected, regardless of what can be ordered online. It can be a display of planning and craftsmanship. It does not always come out well. Unskilled people do try; many get better on their second or fifth efforts. This is my PC. There are many like it, but this red one with the gold scallops, smoked acrylic window, and blue cold-cathode illimination is mine that I planned and created myself and I think it looks pretty damn spiffy.

    Your post inspires me to take your plain-black case and beat your head in with it. Get back to your deathmatch, you anonymous cowardly weapons fetishist; you are not amusing.


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  126. Pimp Daddy PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't think of anything more thrilling than staring at my motherboard. "Look at the those electrons go!"

    I guess it is still cheaper than whoring-up your car.

  127. I hope English isn't your native language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I needed to use Babel Fish to translate your awful writing. Even the structure of it is horrible.

  128. Another LED idea by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    How about having the LEDs indicate where exactly Window's latest memory conflict has taken place? Actually that may not be a good idea, it would fry the LEDs.

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  129. Not PC by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    The politically correct term is "Innuit Sex Worker"

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  130. F-117 Case badge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An F-117 clearly makes you a Popular Mechanics War Fetish geek.

  131. New product by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    I'm going to start marketing tinted side windows to cut down on the LED/neon glare.

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  132. Crazy idea by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    How about a big box that displays any crazy image you want on it. It could even be connected to the CPU and the RAM for real time displays! I'll call it...A MONITOR

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  133. QEMM? - you were spoiled. by dragon8x4x · · Score: 1

    Back in the old days when you needed a different boot disk for every game I used to get out the graph paper and optimize my memory by hand.
    The worst I ever did was come out equal with the optimizer and usally I could save 10K ~ 20K.

  134. Re:top down picture - and here's the video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a lame "video". 3 seconds per frame (not fps) and some stupid music to hog up probably 80% of the download.

    Might as well sent me to a page that flipped through a series of still pictures and a midi bakground sound (which probably would have been better).

  135. Re:Mod this up, Europeans! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HOWTO: Be French
    Version 0.9.1

    Here's a a quick guide to becoming French.

    1 - Befriend tyrants
    Tyrants are okay as long as they are Anti-American and paying you money.

    2 - Call anyone who disagrees with you a Nazi.
    It's surprising, but calling someone a Nazi works well. It ends their career. No evidence is required.

    3 - Act snotty to everyone.
    Be rude and condescending toward those few tourists who still visit France. If you treat them badly enough, they'll want to return.

    4 - Pretend your country still matters
    Wipe from your mind that France is essentially a third world nation with a UN veto.

    5 - Never take your turn.
    All ways ignore queues. Push your way to the front. Always ignore traffic lights.

    6 - Study the Koran.
    Given the large numbers of Islamic voters in France, accept that nude beaches, gays, lesbians, and women without chadors are no longer parts of French culture.

    7 - Never bathe.

    8 - Sell military and nuclear technology to terrorists and anybody who hates Americans.

    So there you have it. Those 8 steps should have you helping kill innocent people, aiding terrorists, and acting like a French moron in no time. France awaits you, cowardly slimeball! Just remember to turn the lights off if you're the last one out.

  136. Re:newsdry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do people preface flames with "...Not a flame.."?

    Dickless, why assume every post that expresses the slightest bit of anti-UK sentiment comes from America? I'm Canadian, and I couldn't care less if you whining maggots all rot.

  137. Re:Bad Karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How to be a European...

    1. Forget your history

    2. Find an American to blame for your problems.

    3. Be invaded by islamic fundamentalists. Do nothing about it.

    4. Cry to the UN because you have no power

    5. Be ignored by world powers.

    6. Work 30 hours a week because it is "too stressful" to put in a 40 hour work week.

    7. Take a month of vacation in the summer and lay around naked in some park.

    8. Find something else to blame America about.

    9. Get taken over by some evil force and ask America to come and save you.

    Does that sound about right?