No, I'm not saying that I have all the evidence, I'm saying that SOME evidence is necessary to convince me of a proposition. I see no evidence to convince me in MY frame of reference ergo, I have nothing to assert that the proposition is true. Its the difference between the world fitting your view, or your view fitting the world.
So to refine my statement, believing unnecessarily complex propositions without observable phenomenon to justify their complexity is a logical fallacy. Thus religion is illogical, and I choose to base my view of the world (as has our society supposedly) on reason instead of superstition.
From the original post (which I did read the OP's contribution carefully)
"A standard 40 Watt fluorescent light bulb emits about 900 lumens. This means that this new thing is about 2/3 as bright as regular, 40W bulb. Have you seen how dim 40W is? Now, make it 2/3 as bright... Wake me up when this invention glows as bright as the sun, because I would not spend a dollar on it. Maybe mole people might be interested."
A standard 40 Watt fluorescent light bulb does not emit 900 lumens. It emits 2500 lumens. Thanks for playing.
1. acoutremant does mean clothing, it also means the stuff you "dress yourself up in" as in the theory is dressed up with a daddy.
2. I was objecting to exactly the thing you're agreeing with, religion is not science, yet it is held in the same regard in man government, academic, and social circles. This is a disease that is eating our society from the inside out. If a bunch of kooks want to go to a building on sunday and throw their money into the coffers of those that would tell them comforting lies, that's their business. When it starts interfering with what my kids learn, how the laws are written, and who they can socialize with, then its MY business. Religion has no place in the classroom, in the courthouse, nor in the playground. Religion is for private moments when you need something to hold you up because you can't figure the world out. It is a lie that sounds better than the truth when you're desperate and can't face the fact that life ends someday and bad things happen.
3. My point about acoutremant was that a theory that is unnecessarily complex is invalid.
The equivalency of validity between scientific theory (based on evidence, tested by observation, and refined to match the observe phenomenon) and belief (backed up by nothing more than "I said so") has gone too far in this world. I make the stand, not out of arrogance, but out of outrage. Belief != Search for Truth. Belief != Truth. Belief != Philosophical Introspection. Belief != Model of the Universe.
Unless you have EVIDENCE to offer for your claims, I say shove them. Even a well reasoned argument will suffice. But if your theory requires acoutremant like an omniscient daddy sitting in the sky tossing death rays down at us to make it work with no particular need for him given the observed phenomenon, then it is quite frankly invalid. Now, you can preach to those mistaken fools who are silly enough to swallow your garbage, but quit equating what you do to science and philosophy.
Although the device could never work (which I wouldn't expect you to understand) your figure you use in your (albeit weak) argument, is also wrong. A 40 W flourescent lamp would put out about 2500 lumens (based on the graph in the figure on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_flourescent)
Yes, and I'll spell this out for you slowly. Folks who make the selfless decision to reproduce at a population decline rate of 1 child per couple have to counterbalance selfish idiots like you who think that their genes are gold plated and must be shoved into as many replicas of themselves as possible. WE are doing the right thing (which was my point), just because we are winning the battle doesn't mean we shouldn't point out that selfish idiots with 4 kids and a gas guzzling SUV aren't killing the planet and propagating idiocy.
Families of 6 or 7 don't work so well for the rest of us that believe that unchecked population growth is a good way to make ourselves either extinct or at a severely lower standard of living.
Keep breeding yourself into the hot, poor house. I'll work on sustainable development on both a local and global level so that folks like you will be looked down upon by history as the selfish fucks you are.
So you're living in a dream world where the next technology node's lithography, metrology, and inspection tools don't cost more, nor does the equipment that goes into making all the reticles and masks? It's very obvious you've been out of the industry for > 8 years, as that was when 300mm/12 inch (pick your measurement system) wafers went into full production use.
Heck the amount of damage !I! do to my online identity posting as myself is huge, I would hate to think what someone else would be able to do... wait, maybe I should let others post as me, it could do my career some good/sarcasm.
And have you done a security audit of your bank (and your bank alone) to determine if they are handling those details correctly? What would your recourse be if your bank lost or had those details stolen?
I'd trust a general purpose security organization to be:
1. More transparently and honestly audited on a regular basis. 2. More accountable in case of loss. 3. More careful in general about it since its their core competency.
Well, I see the point that you could manage facebook/myspace/livejournal/yahoo.... with one openID, still a reduction there, then your cc's/bank/mortgage... with another. This is why I ask these questions. Use it for reduction in uneccessary duplication, but leave duplication where necessary.
Thanks GP for the reply!:)
Isn't this a single point of failure to steal your entire online identity (which in my particular case might be just as bad as stealing my offline identity)?
How is this a good idea. One signin that (if I implemented this on my local machines) would allow access to not only my VPN, mailserver, web server, but also my bank account, mortgage, and any other personal details that are stored in any publically accessible server?
Seems like a bad idea to me, and I'm a F/LOSS advocate. I just like distributed points of failure in any design (as an engineer).
In the "ubuntu" way, they do minor kernel revs to backport driver fixes. This creates the issue of (if you don't decide to use the lovely restricted drivers manager to make it seamless that is) recompiling the driver against the correct kernel header (as you have to do every time you rev a kernel under gentoo as well). If you use the restricted driver manager, the package manager handles this process for you, and you don't even bother recompiling yourself, it just installs the proper driver when the kernel revs. This also manages the selection of which kernel to boot into. Ubuntu rolls out the new kernel rev asap, but gets the restricted drivers packages done more like 3 days later. So, the package manage goes ahead and installs the kernel, but leaves the default boot option locked at the highest rev that has all the system dependencies resolved (yay debian for creating aptitude that does package managment correctly).
This has been your local ubuntu geek, signing off.
My apologies, but ATi has given the linux community (up until late last year) NO support to produce free drivers for them, and the drivers they put out at that time, while existant, may as well have not been built. Those cards (I have one sitting on a shelf) are just no-go under Ubuntu. nVidia vs ATi is a great example of what open specs, cooperation, and transparency get you. nVidia provided decent binary drivers (they had their issues at times) and has worked with the community to develop an open source driver.
ATi, however, crapped out drivers that don't work for years. Unfortunately, the answer is that you're SOL. I battled with a 9800 all in wonder pro for close to a month under gentoo then ubuntu before I just dropped back and made that machine into a server. So yes, the answer if you would like to use your machine with Ubuntu is to get a better video card. Sorry you had it put to you so rudely before, but that's what open development on one side and closed on the other gets you: winners and losers. If only they were all open.
No, you're confusing the idea that the ONLY thing that create money is value, not saying there's more money. Saying there's more money creates inflation, not more wealth.
Don't buy into the voodoo bullshit supply side economics that your saint Reagan spoon fed you in your high chair. The reason our system is broken is EXACTLY that belief. The fact is, and always will be, the ONLY thing that creates money is a value added process performed on a raw material or commodity.
PERIOD.
Everything else is a middle man taking a cut and screwing either the seller, the buyer, or both.
So, educate yourself past asking if you'd like fries with that, and don't believe ANYTHING that the only reference you have is GOOGLE VIDEO you fucking moron.
It doesn't require a carrying case, my lady just slips it in her purse and she has a school capable notebook wherever she may roam. It was the best xmas gift she's ever gotten. And at $300 (for the 2GB w/512 MB of memory) it beats the pants off of anything comparable. Also, I've used the OLPC, and this keyboard is just a bit better. I had to have my fingers not on the keys on the OLPC to pseudo-touch type, this I can keep my fingers just a bit squished and I can really touch type, plus, the OLPC's pushbutton keyboard is really uncomfortable after about 5 minutes of pushing, whereas this has regular keys.
Just my 2 cents after using both and buying one. Cheaper than the OLPC to the US end user, and better.
Perfect example to prove the GP's point, Nickelback is the pop of the modern/hard rock genre. I like some of their catchy tunes, but they are by no means "hardcore underground D3@74 M37@1"
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No, I'm not saying that I have all the evidence, I'm saying that SOME evidence is necessary to convince me of a proposition. I see no evidence to convince me in MY frame of reference ergo, I have nothing to assert that the proposition is true. Its the difference between the world fitting your view, or your view fitting the world.
So to refine my statement, believing unnecessarily complex propositions without observable phenomenon to justify their complexity is a logical fallacy. Thus religion is illogical, and I choose to base my view of the world (as has our society supposedly) on reason instead of superstition.
From the original post (which I did read the OP's contribution carefully)
"A standard 40 Watt fluorescent light bulb emits about 900 lumens. This means that this new thing is about 2/3 as bright as regular, 40W bulb. Have you seen how dim 40W is? Now, make it 2/3 as bright... Wake me up when this invention glows as bright as the sun, because I would not spend a dollar on it. Maybe mole people might be interested."
A standard 40 Watt fluorescent light bulb does not emit 900 lumens. It emits 2500 lumens. Thanks for playing.
They ought (as the GP indicated) to say femtosecond then.. what so hard about that? This, I guess, is why the SI system is so handy.
hmmm.. a number of things to respond to.
1. acoutremant does mean clothing, it also means the stuff you "dress yourself up in" as in the theory is dressed up with a daddy.
2. I was objecting to exactly the thing you're agreeing with, religion is not science, yet it is held in the same regard in man government, academic, and social circles. This is a disease that is eating our society from the inside out. If a bunch of kooks want to go to a building on sunday and throw their money into the coffers of those that would tell them comforting lies, that's their business. When it starts interfering with what my kids learn, how the laws are written, and who they can socialize with, then its MY business. Religion has no place in the classroom, in the courthouse, nor in the playground. Religion is for private moments when you need something to hold you up because you can't figure the world out. It is a lie that sounds better than the truth when you're desperate and can't face the fact that life ends someday and bad things happen.
3. My point about acoutremant was that a theory that is unnecessarily complex is invalid.
Wrong, one million billionths would not be equivalent to milli(billionth of a second)
:p
what it would be equivalent to is exactly what the gp said:
10^6 * 10^-9 = 10^-3 = 1 millisecond.
I have to shout BS.
The equivalency of validity between scientific theory (based on evidence, tested by observation, and refined to match the observe phenomenon) and belief (backed up by nothing more than "I said so") has gone too far in this world. I make the stand, not out of arrogance, but out of outrage. Belief != Search for Truth. Belief != Truth. Belief != Philosophical Introspection. Belief != Model of the Universe.
Unless you have EVIDENCE to offer for your claims, I say shove them. Even a well reasoned argument will suffice. But if your theory requires acoutremant like an omniscient daddy sitting in the sky tossing death rays down at us to make it work with no particular need for him given the observed phenomenon, then it is quite frankly invalid. Now, you can preach to those mistaken fools who are silly enough to swallow your garbage, but quit equating what you do to science and philosophy.
Although the device could never work (which I wouldn't expect you to understand) your figure you use in your (albeit weak) argument, is also wrong. A 40 W flourescent lamp would put out about 2500 lumens (based on the graph in the figure on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_flourescent)
Yes, and I'll spell this out for you slowly. Folks who make the selfless decision to reproduce at a population decline rate of 1 child per couple have to counterbalance selfish idiots like you who think that their genes are gold plated and must be shoved into as many replicas of themselves as possible. WE are doing the right thing (which was my point), just because we are winning the battle doesn't mean we shouldn't point out that selfish idiots with 4 kids and a gas guzzling SUV aren't killing the planet and propagating idiocy.
Nice attempt to dodge the issue though.
Families of 6 or 7 don't work so well for the rest of us that believe that unchecked population growth is a good way to make ourselves either extinct or at a severely lower standard of living.
Keep breeding yourself into the hot, poor house. I'll work on sustainable development on both a local and global level so that folks like you will be looked down upon by history as the selfish fucks you are.
So you're living in a dream world where the next technology node's lithography, metrology, and inspection tools don't cost more, nor does the equipment that goes into making all the reticles and masks? It's very obvious you've been out of the industry for > 8 years, as that was when 300mm/12 inch (pick your measurement system) wafers went into full production use.
Heck the amount of damage !I! do to my online identity posting as myself is huge, I would hate to think what someone else would be able to do... wait, maybe I should let others post as me, it could do my career some good /sarcasm.
And have you done a security audit of your bank (and your bank alone) to determine if they are handling those details correctly? What would your recourse be if your bank lost or had those details stolen?
I'd trust a general purpose security organization to be:
1. More transparently and honestly audited on a regular basis.
2. More accountable in case of loss.
3. More careful in general about it since its their core competency.
Well, I see the point that you could manage facebook/myspace/livejournal/yahoo.... with one openID, still a reduction there, then your cc's/bank/mortgage... with another. This is why I ask these questions. Use it for reduction in uneccessary duplication, but leave duplication where necessary. Thanks GP for the reply! :)
the story two up.
Isn't this a single point of failure to steal your entire online identity (which in my particular case might be just as bad as stealing my offline identity)?
How is this a good idea. One signin that (if I implemented this on my local machines) would allow access to not only my VPN, mailserver, web server, but also my bank account, mortgage, and any other personal details that are stored in any publically accessible server?
Seems like a bad idea to me, and I'm a F/LOSS advocate. I just like distributed points of failure in any design (as an engineer).
In the "ubuntu" way, they do minor kernel revs to backport driver fixes. This creates the issue of (if you don't decide to use the lovely restricted drivers manager to make it seamless that is) recompiling the driver against the correct kernel header (as you have to do every time you rev a kernel under gentoo as well). If you use the restricted driver manager, the package manager handles this process for you, and you don't even bother recompiling yourself, it just installs the proper driver when the kernel revs. This also manages the selection of which kernel to boot into. Ubuntu rolls out the new kernel rev asap, but gets the restricted drivers packages done more like 3 days later. So, the package manage goes ahead and installs the kernel, but leaves the default boot option locked at the highest rev that has all the system dependencies resolved (yay debian for creating aptitude that does package managment correctly).
This has been your local ubuntu geek, signing off.
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-2G-Processor-Preloaded-Green/dp/B001150JQ8/ref=pd_bbs_8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1201799317&sr=8-8
By the way, its still available.
I purchased one for $299 from an Amazon Retailer on Dec 18th. I use it daily.
My apologies, but ATi has given the linux community (up until late last year) NO support to produce free drivers for them, and the drivers they put out at that time, while existant, may as well have not been built. Those cards (I have one sitting on a shelf) are just no-go under Ubuntu. nVidia vs ATi is a great example of what open specs, cooperation, and transparency get you. nVidia provided decent binary drivers (they had their issues at times) and has worked with the community to develop an open source driver.
ATi, however, crapped out drivers that don't work for years. Unfortunately, the answer is that you're SOL. I battled with a 9800 all in wonder pro for close to a month under gentoo then ubuntu before I just dropped back and made that machine into a server. So yes, the answer if you would like to use your machine with Ubuntu is to get a better video card. Sorry you had it put to you so rudely before, but that's what open development on one side and closed on the other gets you: winners and losers. If only they were all open.
we're vigorously agreeing with different terminology.
No, you're confusing the idea that the ONLY thing that create money is value, not saying there's more money. Saying there's more money creates inflation, not more wealth.
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/21/1627206
So is solar cheaper than coal or not?
Don't buy into the voodoo bullshit supply side economics that your saint Reagan spoon fed you in your high chair. The reason our system is broken is EXACTLY that belief. The fact is, and always will be, the ONLY thing that creates money is a value added process performed on a raw material or commodity.
PERIOD.
Everything else is a middle man taking a cut and screwing either the seller, the buyer, or both.
So, educate yourself past asking if you'd like fries with that, and don't believe ANYTHING that the only reference you have is GOOGLE VIDEO you fucking moron.
She has the baby blue 2G surf. Thinking about bumping the memory up to 2G for kicks (make heavy duty webapps run a lil better).
It doesn't require a carrying case, my lady just slips it in her purse and she has a school capable notebook wherever she may roam. It was the best xmas gift she's ever gotten. And at $300 (for the 2GB w/512 MB of memory) it beats the pants off of anything comparable. Also, I've used the OLPC, and this keyboard is just a bit better. I had to have my fingers not on the keys on the OLPC to pseudo-touch type, this I can keep my fingers just a bit squished and I can really touch type, plus, the OLPC's pushbutton keyboard is really uncomfortable after about 5 minutes of pushing, whereas this has regular keys.
Just my 2 cents after using both and buying one. Cheaper than the OLPC to the US end user, and better.
Perfect example to prove the GP's point, Nickelback is the pop of the modern/hard rock genre. I like some of their catchy tunes, but they are by no means "hardcore underground D3@74 M37@1"