I don't see how it is not possible now (from outside USA) to sign up for a whole lot of VoIP accounts, set the addresses to the area you want to fuck and then call out the services via thousands of automated calls.
Being that you're under threat already, I would have thought throwing away your 911 service wouldn't be too smart, but hey...
If you put your local address in the data section of the packet then the NAT machines are not going to see it. The way NAT works is by rewriting the packet header part.
Thus with protocols like IAX2 (which use standard packet structures - unlike SIP) the address data can be mangled while maintaining a good connection.
You have to remember, NAT's are not designed to screw things up, they should be transparent. The problem is that SIP announces what it thinks its address is (i.e. 192.168.0.1) inside the data portion of the packet. You can get NAT's that 'go beyond the call of duty' to read through the data inside the packet and look for SIP packets to fix, but it's not the protocol that's going beyond the call, it's just that SIP is below par.
We have elections on at the moment and the government is trying to sweeten the deal. Funny that microsoft got their real intentions found out with this one.
Microsoft should just keep it's mouth shut and maybe it will be more difficult to put it's foot in there.
So, now that people are starting to take up VoIP, do you think that people will start to look for the best quality or continue to go for the cheapest price.
At our company (don't worry we only deal with companies, so this isn't an ad), we have a new routing system that does Least Cost Routing, but with weighting. This allows us to weight providers higher or lower based on their performance/quality.
While this increases our prices slightly, it does mean that we have pretty good QOS.
Do you think that as the market progresses this will be something that consumers get or will it always be the domain of large enterprises?
Now, if I push the first marbe in the hose, surely the one at the other end will fall out no?
So couldn't information be transmitted at faster than the speed of light?
Sure the matter isn't moving faster than the speed of light, but when i push one marble in at this end, (assuming it is full) on will instantly fall out the other end. No?
But its great that in such a growth area a VoIP we've got a great OpenSource product like Asterisk.
I couldn't agree more!
The amount of crap this guy has to put up with is more than anyone's fair share! He does a great job of being the benevolant dictator in a difficult product.
I really do believe that Asterisk for voice will be the same as Apache for html.
A) printf is what you think it is B) there is no file called " " which you appear to have included (sorry not really a C man). C) Characters are the same on the device you are printing to as what you expected...
Yeah, but not really across the board. With the obvious exception of RedHat et al...
Great news, it's about time that someone started rolling Linux out onto the Desktop in a large enterprise.
:)
Someone has to be the beta tester!
LOL, I once went to a television manufacturing plant in Wales and asked about the noise. He said it could happen from old TVs with bad transformers.
:D
I asked why I could hear it from the TVs in front of me and he said I couldn't
The difference is between peak and sustained noise.
:)
When I was in USA as a kid, I was punk and hung out with a few people in a square in Santa Rosa.
The local authorites believed we were an eyesore and so tried to get rid of us by playing classical music from the trees. Obviously it didn't work.
But any sustained noise at high frequency can't be good for you...(speaking as a 28 year old who still does Sound Engineering)
How is that offtopic? Did you even RTFA?
Isn't this just going to make the kids as deaf as the adults?
Everyone driven away?
I don't see how it is not possible now (from outside USA) to sign up for a whole lot of VoIP accounts, set the addresses to the area you want to fuck and then call out the services via thousands of automated calls.
Being that you're under threat already, I would have thought throwing away your 911 service wouldn't be too smart, but hey...
Ok here's a quick breakdown:
Say a TCP/UDP packet has the following format
[packet header][data]
If you put your local address in the data section of the packet then the NAT machines are not going to see it. The way NAT works is by rewriting the packet header part.
Thus with protocols like IAX2 (which use standard packet structures - unlike SIP) the address data can be mangled while maintaining a good connection.
You have to remember, NAT's are not designed to screw things up, they should be transparent. The problem is that SIP announces what it thinks its address is (i.e. 192.168.0.1) inside the data portion of the packet. You can get NAT's that 'go beyond the call of duty' to read through the data inside the packet and look for SIP packets to fix, but it's not the protocol that's going beyond the call, it's just that SIP is below par.
You know the reason for this?
We have elections on at the moment and the government is trying to sweeten the deal. Funny that microsoft got their real intentions found out with this one.
Microsoft should just keep it's mouth shut and maybe it will be more difficult to put it's foot in there.
Or you could just call and complain:
l
:D
http://www.cutusabreak.org/Pages/policeletter.htm
Hmmmm can just see the police switchboard getting slashdotted now!
So, now that people are starting to take up VoIP, do you think that people will start to look for the best quality or continue to go for the cheapest price.
At our company (don't worry we only deal with companies, so this isn't an ad), we have a new routing system that does Least Cost Routing, but with weighting. This allows us to weight providers higher or lower based on their performance/quality.
While this increases our prices slightly, it does mean that we have pretty good QOS.
Do you think that as the market progresses this will be something that consumers get or will it always be the domain of large enterprises?
And it allows you to resume a connection.
Some transfer protocols still haven't got this right.
FKN Funny - why oh why don't we have +100
That rocks man!
:)
Here in New Zealand I used to run a WildCat BBS! It was super cool. It had colour!!! And ASCII pr0n!
Oh and you can't forget the xmodem,zmodem connections. Ahh the days.
Funny that that's about the last thing I remember before the drug induced haze of the following 15 years
Say I had a hose.
Say it was 2 lightyears long.
Say I filled it with marbles...all the way along.
Now, if I push the first marbe in the hose, surely the one at the other end will fall out no?
So couldn't information be transmitted at faster than the speed of light?
Sure the matter isn't moving faster than the speed of light, but when i push one marble in at this end, (assuming it is full) on will instantly fall out the other end. No?
Asterisk history was made today:
:-)
The first CVS commit from a plane at 23,000 feet!
http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=456
Go Kram you sup3rl337 dude!!!!!!
Hate to reply to my own post, but here's the game:
http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=360
Nice! :-)
So when will be be able to get a copy?
heh I can just imagine it now, the world economy comes to a grinding halt as boardrooms everywhere are overtaken by Metaboo!
Well, here's a description of the metaboo game:
http://kevan.org/games/metaboo.html
So I guess he's just implemented that via the telephone...
Heh, well litimax has posted his number guessing game!
Ah the fun...who needs counterstrike!
http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=355
heh
So does anyone know any more about this metaboo game he mentions?
But its great that in such a growth area a VoIP we've got a great OpenSource product like Asterisk.
:-)
I couldn't agree more!
The amount of crap this guy has to put up with is more than anyone's fair share! He does a great job of being the benevolant dictator in a difficult product.
I really do believe that Asterisk for voice will be the same as Apache for html.
We can but hope and wait.
(oh yeah and evangalize!)
Evidence:
http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=311
BKW posts details of SysMaster's GPL violation
http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=313
JerJer posts details of string output
http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=314
Mark Spencer responds to claims
http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=316
Digium agrees to let SysMaster just pay back licencing fees because they are their biggest customer.
This assumes:
A) printf is what you think it is
B) there is no file called " " which you appear to have included (sorry not really a C man).
C) Characters are the same on the device you are printing to as what you expected...