It's not vandalism. You're not reducing or eliminating the intended functionality or the appearance of the device. It still does what it's supposed to(and more) even after you Jailbreak it.
It's absolutely legal, especially because you don't need to agree to terms and conditions to use display models, so you're not even breaking their TOS. That's not to say they're not going to be pissed and kick you out if they catch you, but they have no legal ground to punish you on.
Now if you went around engraving cartoon penises on them, THAT would be vandalism.
"It'd be like me going into your house and installing stuff on your home PC that I want there, without ever asking and without your knowledge."
That's not even close to the same.
Your home (my home) is a private place of residence where you are not permitted(at least I don't think you are, who are you?). The Apple Store is a public place of business that WANTS you to come in and look around.
My home PC is private and secured. That iPhone display is public and they WANT you to play with it. If they were truly worried about people messing with them, don't you think they'd lock the phone? I assume there's SOME way to do that with an iPhone.
You can't Jailbreak my PC - it's already free and clear of any draconian application oversight. That iPhone is a little black box device with terrible functionality and engineering problems that sells because it is trendy and "the newest thing" more than because of its function.
To use my PC I had to agree to certain terms and conditions of certain software at various times. Therefore, I am legally bound to do or not do certain things with my computer/its software. The Apple Store display does not require you to agree to these terms and conditions to use their displays. You are not legally bound in anything you do to it, short of obvious crimes like destruction or theft.
I have my handful of PCs that I use persistently as my own home computers. Apple Stores have huge pools of devices they can reformat/restore at will and cycle in and out of the showroom floor. They will be no worse for the wear from this prank.
He didn't have to agree to the terms and conditions of that iPhone, and it's provided to him to use and test as is. By Jailbreaking, he didn't remove functionality(actually added it) so no destruction or vandalism took place, so that's not something to punish him with. He was doing it right in front of Apple's employees, and they didn't say anything.
Secondly, Apple can just reformat the phone however they do and put it back to factory stock (un-jailbreak it).
They seem to be really good at that, even on phones that aren't their property that they don't own.
"How would you respond if Wikileaks put up your credit card information, bank account numbers, social security number and all your known residences and acquaintances?"
I would cancel the cards, change all pertinent information as fast as I could, and not put my information somewhere where they could get it next time. My friends and relatives I'm fine with.
I think this all goes back to the parable "Two can only keep a secret if one is dead". Nothing is truly secret unless you're the only one who knows (and it's unwise to assume you're the only one who knows anything).
That's like saying "Oh cell phones are old news, this guy shouldn't take credit for hacking them".
Yes, radio transceivers are old news. No, not many other people use them in this way, and on these frequencies, and for this purpose, which is why this talk even made it to DefCon. Also, not many people understand the GSM spec well enough to circumvent(turn off) the encryption or to force use of the weaker 2G network.
If, as you claim, geeks are constantly doing this:
1. There would be a lot more geeks in Jail 2. This wouldn't have been worthy of a DefCon presentation
Quit being a wannabe hater and go learn what it actually does.
Perhaps there would be better reception for all of these new OGL iterations if they saved up some worthwhile features before putting them into the spec, and just leave the new stuff as extensions until they have a nice upgrade to show.
If I'm not mistaken, they JUST updated to 3.3/4.0 in March or something at GDC, no? I can't imagine there's been too terribly much added in 6 months. I like OpenGL a hell of a lot better than DX but I couldn't give less of a rat's ass about this supposed "step up". Before trying to match DX11 you should see if there's anything in DX11 worth copying(there isn't).
AMEN to that. I watched this guy wantonly open tabs to things he probably would only glance at, and then complain there's too many tabs.
Hey, instead of Tab Candy(which seems like a hell of a lot of work to organize tabs while browsing) how about you just learn to properly use a tabbed browser?
Most people can manage information well enough in their head that they don't need 15-25 tabs open at once.
On top of that, it's actually faster to just open a second copy of the browser with a different group of tabs than it is to organize with Tab Candy.
...perhaps he should find another line of work. Quite frankly, I love C++, and Java to a lesser degree. C and its big brother C++ are great languages to learn. They teach you more about how the computer uses the code you're writing than something like CodeBlocks where you just fit them together in the right order. Good luck debugging software at a real-world company if you don't like C.
As for Java, I think it's a pretty inefficient language, but so is C# and.NET applications in general. Any managed code has overhead.
If you hate Java so much, why did you base your phone OS around it?
I could see if he was railing against Assembly or Fortran or something, but then even still many people love Assembly too. My Machine Architecture teacher was a fiend for it, and once I learned how it really worked it wasn't that bad for me either. I, for one, am proud to say that I could manually write machine code (if I really had to) though I have no plans to do so. I think every true computer programmer should BE ABLE to do so, whether or not they ever do. That would, in my eyes, make a programmer worth their salt.
You need to stop throwing numbers around as if you have any idea what they mean.
Clearly, certain people affect land much larger than 7.6 hectares, and clearly many affect much less. Even if you want to break down the hectares for each person into what is and isn't 'usable' or 'arable' you still can't discount the affect each person has on the remaining 6.6 hectares. Just because we can't walk on or farm the area doesn't mean we don't affect it.
The point is not whether the earth is warming or not - it is. The point is, we probably aren't the main cause. The earth has been warming since around the Ice Age, and it certainly wasn't us who started it.
Furthermore, this set of pictures is wholly inaccurate. The picture on the left being in gray-scale doesn't show the same shadow detail that the color version does. What looks like rocks in the color photo, where ice has retreated in other words, is actually still ice - it's just shadowed so it looks like rocks. There is also no information about WHEN in the year this was taken. Ice will retreat and regrow during the season depending on the temperature and humidity, so a few months difference could naturally produce this effect.
Beyond that, I don't see a whole lot less ice in the color version than the B&W one. Seems like a lot of hype.
For standardized tests I have taken (SAT, ACT, entrance exams, etc) they have always provided us with a calculator with nowhere near graphing functionality. For most standardized tests, a graphing calculator is far more than what's needed, so the testing centers usually shell out a box of $10 calculators.
Most tests I have been to have outright NOT allowed any graphing calcs because you can program most of them as they are. It's trivial to put in an answer-key program in TIBasic let alone Assembly or whatever else they're using to mod these things.
It's completely an AT&T problem, because it happens on all phones on their network. They have weak coverage. They even know this, which is why their commercials are "Fastest 3G network" instead of "Best coverage". Fast 3G doesn't do you much good if you can't connect to it.
Two of my immediate family have iPhones, two other have simple flip-phones on AT&T, and I use a Droid on Verizon. We were having pretty much the same argument, and so we watched our phone signal while driving along the coast. At any given point, the AT&T phones were about 20-40% signal strength, while my phone had 70-100% almost the whole way. Their 3G coverage would drop in and out constantly, yet even when stopped in a tunnel in Boston my Pandora and Google Maps/Navigation didn't cut out when they had no signal at all.
Their network is garbage. It seems like looking at an AT&T phone wrong will make it drop signal.
The human body has capacitance and resistance. When we touch a metal object, that object's capacitance and resistance is combined with our own. When that piece of metal is the HF antenna for an iPhone, this changes the tuning of the antenna. If you change the tuning of the antenna, the reception quality will drop dramatically. This doesn't require anything to be covered, just to make electrical contact with the metal.
This is pretty common sense for anyone who has built any type of electrical circuit before. I regard it as sad that Apple did not have the foresight to at least cover the exposed antenna portion in some type of epoxy or resin that would at least insulate it from touch. I suppose they were trying to charge for the insulation (bumpers) or make their phone "look cool" as is so often the case at Apple. That would certainly fit their "Screw that guy, we'll have 20 new fanboys tomorrow" business strategy.
"track space junk and sell the data it collects to satellite owners and companies like NASA"
So, basically, it doesn't *do* anything. They use it like...oh, a telescope or something, and then *sell* their observations.
Yippee. Shouldn't a project funded by federal grants not be eligible to sell their findings but be required to provide them freely to the public? Seems a little wrong to me.
I think Jobs is the Antichrist. It has nothing to do with iAd though.
Anyone who responds to serious technical defects in their product with "Don't hold it that way" is a complete fool just out for your cash, and an asshole to boot.
I honestly wouldn't be so against Apple products if they would hire someone humble and intelligent to run the company, and allow function to win out over form once in a while.
Does it have an open market where you can obtain most things - or a similar version - for free, or publish your own software to its market without the draconian overview of Fuhrer Jobs and his minions?
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The original Motorola Droid uses it, I don't know what's 'secret' about it.
Is this "make up your own definition" day?
vandalism (vndl-zm)
n.
Willful or malicious destruction of public or private property.
It's not vandalism. You're not reducing or eliminating the intended functionality or the appearance of the device. It still does what it's supposed to(and more) even after you Jailbreak it.
It's absolutely legal, especially because you don't need to agree to terms and conditions to use display models, so you're not even breaking their TOS. That's not to say they're not going to be pissed and kick you out if they catch you, but they have no legal ground to punish you on.
Now if you went around engraving cartoon penises on them, THAT would be vandalism.
"It'd be like me going into your house and installing stuff on your home PC that I want there, without ever asking and without your knowledge."
That's not even close to the same.
Your home (my home) is a private place of residence where you are not permitted(at least I don't think you are, who are you?). The Apple Store is a public place of business that WANTS you to come in and look around.
My home PC is private and secured. That iPhone display is public and they WANT you to play with it. If they were truly worried about people messing with them, don't you think they'd lock the phone? I assume there's SOME way to do that with an iPhone.
You can't Jailbreak my PC - it's already free and clear of any draconian application oversight. That iPhone is a little black box device with terrible functionality and engineering problems that sells because it is trendy and "the newest thing" more than because of its function.
To use my PC I had to agree to certain terms and conditions of certain software at various times. Therefore, I am legally bound to do or not do certain things with my computer/its software. The Apple Store display does not require you to agree to these terms and conditions to use their displays. You are not legally bound in anything you do to it, short of obvious crimes like destruction or theft.
I have my handful of PCs that I use persistently as my own home computers. Apple Stores have huge pools of devices they can reformat/restore at will and cycle in and out of the showroom floor. They will be no worse for the wear from this prank.
Firstly, he didn't break any laws.
He didn't have to agree to the terms and conditions of that iPhone, and it's provided to him to use and test as is. By Jailbreaking, he didn't remove functionality(actually added it) so no destruction or vandalism took place, so that's not something to punish him with. He was doing it right in front of Apple's employees, and they didn't say anything.
Secondly, Apple can just reformat the phone however they do and put it back to factory stock (un-jailbreak it).
They seem to be really good at that, even on phones that aren't their property that they don't own.
"How would you respond if Wikileaks put up your credit card information, bank account numbers, social security number and all your known residences and acquaintances?"
I would cancel the cards, change all pertinent information as fast as I could, and not put my information somewhere where they could get it next time. My friends and relatives I'm fine with.
I think this all goes back to the parable "Two can only keep a secret if one is dead". Nothing is truly secret unless you're the only one who knows (and it's unwise to assume you're the only one who knows anything).
"a well regarded pundit and speechwriter in Conservative circles"
Read: Right-wing mouthpiece douche.
That's like saying "Oh cell phones are old news, this guy shouldn't take credit for hacking them".
Yes, radio transceivers are old news. No, not many other people use them in this way, and on these frequencies, and for this purpose, which is why this talk even made it to DefCon. Also, not many people understand the GSM spec well enough to circumvent(turn off) the encryption or to force use of the weaker 2G network.
If, as you claim, geeks are constantly doing this:
1. There would be a lot more geeks in Jail
2. This wouldn't have been worthy of a DefCon presentation
Quit being a wannabe hater and go learn what it actually does.
Perhaps there would be better reception for all of these new OGL iterations if they saved up some worthwhile features before putting them into the spec, and just leave the new stuff as extensions until they have a nice upgrade to show.
If I'm not mistaken, they JUST updated to 3.3/4.0 in March or something at GDC, no? I can't imagine there's been too terribly much added in 6 months. I like OpenGL a hell of a lot better than DX but I couldn't give less of a rat's ass about this supposed "step up". Before trying to match DX11 you should see if there's anything in DX11 worth copying(there isn't).
Right on, Bearshit-san!
AMEN to that. I watched this guy wantonly open tabs to things he probably would only glance at, and then complain there's too many tabs.
Hey, instead of Tab Candy(which seems like a hell of a lot of work to organize tabs while browsing) how about you just learn to properly use a tabbed browser?
Most people can manage information well enough in their head that they don't need 15-25 tabs open at once.
On top of that, it's actually faster to just open a second copy of the browser with a different group of tabs than it is to organize with Tab Candy.
...perhaps he should find another line of work. Quite frankly, I love C++, and Java to a lesser degree. C and its big brother C++ are great languages to learn. They teach you more about how the computer uses the code you're writing than something like CodeBlocks where you just fit them together in the right order. Good luck debugging software at a real-world company if you don't like C.
As for Java, I think it's a pretty inefficient language, but so is C# and .NET applications in general. Any managed code has overhead.
If you hate Java so much, why did you base your phone OS around it?
I could see if he was railing against Assembly or Fortran or something, but then even still many people love Assembly too. My Machine Architecture teacher was a fiend for it, and once I learned how it really worked it wasn't that bad for me either. I, for one, am proud to say that I could manually write machine code (if I really had to) though I have no plans to do so. I think every true computer programmer should BE ABLE to do so, whether or not they ever do. That would, in my eyes, make a programmer worth their salt.
"What do you have an ATM in that chest LiteBrite of yours?"
"it's Old People. Retirement. Insurance. Real Estate. Securities and Investment."
And the religious right which would like nothing better than to outlaw internet porn and anything they fundamentally disagree with.
You need to stop throwing numbers around as if you have any idea what they mean.
Clearly, certain people affect land much larger than 7.6 hectares, and clearly many affect much less. Even if you want to break down the hectares for each person into what is and isn't 'usable' or 'arable' you still can't discount the affect each person has on the remaining 6.6 hectares. Just because we can't walk on or farm the area doesn't mean we don't affect it.
The point is not whether the earth is warming or not - it is. The point is, we probably aren't the main cause. The earth has been warming since around the Ice Age, and it certainly wasn't us who started it.
Furthermore, this set of pictures is wholly inaccurate. The picture on the left being in gray-scale doesn't show the same shadow detail that the color version does. What looks like rocks in the color photo, where ice has retreated in other words, is actually still ice - it's just shadowed so it looks like rocks. There is also no information about WHEN in the year this was taken. Ice will retreat and regrow during the season depending on the temperature and humidity, so a few months difference could naturally produce this effect.
Beyond that, I don't see a whole lot less ice in the color version than the B&W one. Seems like a lot of hype.
Someone is walking around with $80 Million in their pocket.
For standardized tests I have taken (SAT, ACT, entrance exams, etc) they have always provided us with a calculator with nowhere near graphing functionality. For most standardized tests, a graphing calculator is far more than what's needed, so the testing centers usually shell out a box of $10 calculators.
Most tests I have been to have outright NOT allowed any graphing calcs because you can program most of them as they are. It's trivial to put in an answer-key program in TIBasic let alone Assembly or whatever else they're using to mod these things.
It's completely an AT&T problem, because it happens on all phones on their network. They have weak coverage. They even know this, which is why their commercials are "Fastest 3G network" instead of "Best coverage". Fast 3G doesn't do you much good if you can't connect to it.
Two of my immediate family have iPhones, two other have simple flip-phones on AT&T, and I use a Droid on Verizon. We were having pretty much the same argument, and so we watched our phone signal while driving along the coast. At any given point, the AT&T phones were about 20-40% signal strength, while my phone had 70-100% almost the whole way. Their 3G coverage would drop in and out constantly, yet even when stopped in a tunnel in Boston my Pandora and Google Maps/Navigation didn't cut out when they had no signal at all.
Their network is garbage. It seems like looking at an AT&T phone wrong will make it drop signal.
The human body has capacitance and resistance. When we touch a metal object, that object's capacitance and resistance is combined with our own. When that piece of metal is the HF antenna for an iPhone, this changes the tuning of the antenna. If you change the tuning of the antenna, the reception quality will drop dramatically. This doesn't require anything to be covered, just to make electrical contact with the metal.
This is pretty common sense for anyone who has built any type of electrical circuit before. I regard it as sad that Apple did not have the foresight to at least cover the exposed antenna portion in some type of epoxy or resin that would at least insulate it from touch. I suppose they were trying to charge for the insulation (bumpers) or make their phone "look cool" as is so often the case at Apple. That would certainly fit their "Screw that guy, we'll have 20 new fanboys tomorrow" business strategy.
"track space junk and sell the data it collects to satellite owners and companies like NASA"
So, basically, it doesn't *do* anything. They use it like...oh, a telescope or something, and then *sell* their observations.
Yippee. Shouldn't a project funded by federal grants not be eligible to sell their findings but be required to provide them freely to the public? Seems a little wrong to me.
Simple Solution:
Don't use an iPhone.
Anything with Android on Verizon is apparently free to use over 3G.
Do they have this in a non-ATI version? I will never use ATI again after several years of constant problems with their products.
I'll buy an effin' Matrox card before I ever touch another ATI.
I don't have to, Google already did it for me with Android.
I think Jobs is the Antichrist. It has nothing to do with iAd though.
Anyone who responds to serious technical defects in their product with "Don't hold it that way" is a complete fool just out for your cash, and an asshole to boot.
I honestly wouldn't be so against Apple products if they would hire someone humble and intelligent to run the company, and allow function to win out over form once in a while.
Does it have an open market where you can obtain most things - or a similar version - for free, or publish your own software to its market without the draconian overview of Fuhrer Jobs and his minions?
No.