I'm a man of peace and my way of thinking is not to even TRY to intentionally harm anyone (unless in self defense). But mankind has little respect to rebels. People tend to "discover" stupid things like artificial mental cages, money, war... Have you ever seen animals going to a war? No, they're actually smarter than us.
That's cool, I've got a couple of VB programs' sources on my computer that my dad rote a few years ago. Making this stuff run should help me understanding and rewriting the code.
Let's name the new cool tool "unipkg". Its purpose is not to create the sixth packaging format, but to easily convert between existing formats, maintain a database of dependencies between other formats' databases of dependencies, ease the instalation from sources (I know, I know, emerge is kewl, etc).
How would I do that:
1. Get the source of rpm 2. Get the source of dpkg 3. Get the source of... $WHATEVER_IS_USED_TO_PACKAGE_THE_REMAINING_THREE_F ORMATS 4. Get the source of alien
5. Insert a mix of all this stuff into unipkg and add powerful commandline interface, so both rpm and dpkg could be virtually replaced with the new packager.
6. The resulting app should also automatically resolve any dependencies, like yast, aptitude, and many others do. Preferred type of packages should be chosen (rpm, deb, tgz...)
7. Also, there should be a simple compiling interface so you can just
$ unipkg source somestuff-2.13rc1.tar.bz2
and it shall bunzip2 and untar it to/tmp, do a default./configure --prefix=/tmp/unipkg/$PACKAGENAME, make, make check and create a package from/tmp/unipkg/$PACKAGENAME directory. The package should be installed then. Possibly advanced users should be able to customize configure's arguments to fit their system.
8. In config file/etc/unipkg there should be default (preferred or native) package type (so debian and ubuntu users use debs, fedora, mandriva and suse users use rpm...). If a package is to be installed via unipkg, it would be first converted to system's native (or chosen) format (only if not already in that format) via alien part, and then installed. There should also be a list of mirrors, mirror selection system (like netselect-apt), maybe a list of unwanted formats (for example if we don't like the idea of using slackware's TGZs, since they carry no dependencies info), and some kind of system that would protect the innocent from using "testing" or "unstable" packages.
9. This way people could easily install debs on fedora and rpms on ubuntu, all dependencies are resolved, the database is always up-to-date, and everyone's happy =]
10. Now just create a bunch of GUI wrappers. I'm sure both KDE and GNOME teams will create at least a couple of these, and of course an easy CLI tool with ncurses gfx (like cmdline yast or aptitude) would also be kewl.
11. There's still a problem of ABI compatibility, but what would be Linux like without three hours each week spent on repairing stuff =] windows users have to spend even more time on solving other problems which aren't bothering us, so all in all we gain again.
12. There is also a bunch of stuff I don't like, and that (IMHO) should be fixed in some pkg managing systems. e.g. dpkg doesn't care about the dependencies at all, it just installs the package without a word of warning =( One thing I miss is easy and fast instalation of many separate local rpm packages, for example I have downloaded xine and other codecs stuff for suse 10.1, and I have to guess the correct precedence of installing these pkgs instead of doing something like
$ rpm -i libxine*.rpm
The main pro of this solution is that there would be no new package format, but just a common interface for working with existing formats.
The main con is that packages compiled for fedora might screw ubuntu, suse, slackware, etc. up, and vice versa. Maybe some sensitive stuff (like toolchain or some libs) should depend on a virtual package that conflicts with sensitive stuff from other systems.
Google - 95% Other search engines (not any of the "big three") - 4-5% Both Yahoo and MSN - less than 1%
Why?
While Google is a search engine, Yahoo and MSN are (mainly) portals. There are LOTS of web portals in Poland. WP, Onet, Interia, naming the most popular. No one needs Yahoo nor MSN.
DOS was arguably the greatest step backwards in whole computer history.
Arguably.
Because after DOS there were Windows 1.0 - 5.x (which were a step back from Macintosh and Unix running X11) and Windows Vista (which is a step back from GNU/Linux running X11 and Beryl/Compiz).
this means 2 mb per frame, or 50 mb per second, uncompressed.
multiplied by ~10K seconds of movie, makes 500G of uncompressed stuff.
wow.
but let's compress it.
let's choose that discrete sine algorithm to get rid of unnecessary stuff.
then that technique that gets only the first image, and the rest of the stuff is only what has been changed on that image, you know what i mean, i just don't remember its name.
then let's use some lossless compression algorithm, liek gzip or bzip2 (rather the first one, the second is very cpu hungry)
or maybe other today's best movie compression techniques.
and we managed to pack it to 20-30 gb that MUST fit quite nicely to that blu-ray or hd-dvd disc, official specs say that you can't pack any more.
today it's not a trouble to dl a cd iso image, 700 mb.
yesterday it was possibly a trouble for a sec or two to dl dvd image, which has approx 4,5 gb.
tomorrow, before we could understand what has just happened, 1mbps will be standard. 20 gb will be less than 700 mb yesterday.
those of us who started with 14.4k modem dreamed about isdn. and now, isdn is like crap to adsl, cable. adsl's capabilities are around 6mbps. this makes one megabyte per second.
6mbps.
20GB. 20K seconds. less than 6 hours.
200GB. 200K seconds. 55 hours. two or three days.
what goes next? copper bites the dust. our internet connections will be faster and faster, our NXG hard disks' capacities will be counted in TBs, our ram in GBs, our movie and music libraries will grow. and nothing will stop this.
Heard that SDL, OpenGL, OpenAL and rest of this open stuff is not directly accessing the hardware, but there's yet another set of layers in between. Performance will ___always_____ be lower then. Solution? Use free software =]
It seems that Linux is now a better gaming platform than Vista. NWN, Q3, Jedi Academy, Soldat, Baldur's Gate series... All this stuff works perfectly on my junk under Debian Etch + Wine / Cedega.
>I'm sorry, but it's statements like these that make >it glaringly obvious why Linux isn't ready for the >general public. Who the hell is going to go into the >terminal just to install something? Honestly, I think >that Linux is best off staying a bit nichey, but why >should users who like Free software have to deal with it?
In "clean" windows, before you can install ANYTHING that is not from M$ or on a CD, you must:
1. open IE, for example from desktop or start menu 2. go to google, for example www.google.com 3. find the stuff you need, closing 666 popups first. you rarely get the version you actually need (try to find kerio personal firewall 2!) 4. download it (remember to clean up the DL directory from time to time, or it may eat up much space after a few months..) 5. double-click on the installer exe 6. go through installation process (remember to put the stuff on another partition!) 7. repeat the process from point 2 to point 6 for any application you need 8. ready? no way, most of the stuff you REALLY need, must be paid for or "pirated". then, 9. repeat the whole process from point 2 to 6 to download a P2P client 10. install it, run it and configure it (watch out not to connect to a fake server hosted by RIAA or other bad guyz!) 11. search for the stuff you need, also for the crack or serial 12. crack it (i know people who do not know how to crack a game...) 13. enjoy it. wait, you said you downloaded a cd iamge? then... 14. repeat the whole process from point 2 to point 6 to download cd imaging software. 15. maintain a database of cd images. each of them is probably eating lots of hd space. 16. is the stuff finally ready?... possibly...
17. repeat the process from point 2 to point 6 for the virus scanner software, because the crack installed a trojan or two... 18. after a year, re-install the windows, because it is sooooo f*ckin' slow that you can't check your email in time shorter than 15 minutes. 19. and go to point 1.
In "clean" Linux, for example in Debian, all you need to do is:
1. run Synaptic, or $WHATEVER_YOU_USE_FOR_PACKAGE_MANAGEMENT, for example from KDE or GNOME menu 2. give root password (no software can be installed or modified without your permission!) 3. select any applications you want. you'll be warned if you're eventually running out of disk space. 4. click "apply" and wait for stuff to be downloaded either from the net of from the distro cd/dvd 5. ready! enjoy!
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I'm a man of peace and my way of thinking is not to even TRY to intentionally harm anyone (unless in self defense). But mankind has little respect to rebels. People tend to "discover" stupid things like artificial mental cages, money, war... Have you ever seen animals going to a war? No, they're actually smarter than us.
A.D. 1995 or so. 386 or less (not sure). 1 MB of ram. 30 MB HD. Windows 2.x.
A.D. 1997 or 1998. 486. 4 MB of ram. Windows 95.
Somewhere around late 90s. An old calculator with reverse polish notation. Erwin, the AI.
I just wonder... what if one day I'll wake up with a penguin in my bed.
:D
Well, I'd get its sources, open Blender and Emacs and start hacking
The only law I care to respect is:
Do What The Fuck You Want As Long As You Do Not Hurt Anyone.
And actually that's the only law we really need.
The best and the safest web browser ever!
$ wget http://slashdot.org/
$ html2text index.html | less
Inkless printer? Hahaha, I've discovered printerless ink! And who's pr0 here? =]
superfetch, readyboost, readyboot, readydrive...
It seems that these guys at M$ haven't discovered [space bar] key yet.
That's cool, I've got a couple of VB programs' sources on my computer that my dad rote a few years ago. Making this stuff run should help me understanding and rewriting the code.
I think I'll switch to brainfuck.
Anyone ever heard about a bug in brainfuck?
I prefer GtkRadiant.
Let's name the new cool tool "unipkg". Its purpose is not to create the sixth packaging format, but to easily convert between existing formats, maintain a database of dependencies between other formats' databases of dependencies, ease the instalation from sources (I know, I know, emerge is kewl, etc).
F ORMATS
/tmp, do a default ./configure --prefix=/tmp/unipkg/$PACKAGENAME, make, make check and create a package from /tmp/unipkg/$PACKAGENAME directory. The package should be installed then. Possibly advanced users should be able to customize configure's arguments to fit their system.
/etc/unipkg there should be default (preferred or native) package type (so debian and ubuntu users use debs, fedora, mandriva and suse users use rpm...). If a package is to be installed via unipkg, it would be first converted to system's native (or chosen) format (only if not already in that format) via alien part, and then installed. There should also be a list of mirrors, mirror selection system (like netselect-apt), maybe a list of unwanted formats (for example if we don't like the idea of using slackware's TGZs, since they carry no dependencies info), and some kind of system that would protect the innocent from using "testing" or "unstable" packages.
How would I do that:
1. Get the source of rpm
2. Get the source of dpkg
3. Get the source of... $WHATEVER_IS_USED_TO_PACKAGE_THE_REMAINING_THREE_
4. Get the source of alien
5. Insert a mix of all this stuff into unipkg and add powerful commandline interface, so both rpm and dpkg could be virtually replaced with the new packager.
6. The resulting app should also automatically resolve any dependencies, like yast, aptitude, and many others do. Preferred type of packages should be chosen (rpm, deb, tgz...)
7. Also, there should be a simple compiling interface so you can just
$ unipkg source somestuff-2.13rc1.tar.bz2
and it shall bunzip2 and untar it to
8. In config file
9. This way people could easily install debs on fedora and rpms on ubuntu, all dependencies are resolved, the database is always up-to-date, and everyone's happy =]
10. Now just create a bunch of GUI wrappers. I'm sure both KDE and GNOME teams will create at least a couple of these, and of course an easy CLI tool with ncurses gfx (like cmdline yast or aptitude) would also be kewl.
11. There's still a problem of ABI compatibility, but what would be Linux like without three hours each week spent on repairing stuff =] windows users have to spend even more time on solving other problems which aren't bothering us, so all in all we gain again.
12. There is also a bunch of stuff I don't like, and that (IMHO) should be fixed in some pkg managing systems. e.g. dpkg doesn't care about the dependencies at all, it just installs the package without a word of warning =( One thing I miss is easy and fast instalation of many separate local rpm packages, for example I have downloaded xine and other codecs stuff for suse 10.1, and I have to guess the correct precedence of installing these pkgs instead of doing something like
$ rpm -i libxine*.rpm
The main pro of this solution is that there would be no new package format, but just a common interface for working with existing formats.
The main con is that packages compiled for fedora might screw ubuntu, suse, slackware, etc. up, and vice versa. Maybe some sensitive stuff (like toolchain or some libs) should depend on a virtual package that conflicts with sensitive stuff from other systems.
Let's raid RIAA.
In Poland it would go like this:
Google - 95%
Other search engines (not any of the "big three") - 4-5%
Both Yahoo and MSN - less than 1%
Why?
While Google is a search engine, Yahoo and MSN are (mainly) portals. There are LOTS of web portals in Poland. WP, Onet, Interia, naming the most popular. No one needs Yahoo nor MSN.
DOS was arguably the greatest step backwards in whole computer history.
Arguably.
Because after DOS there were Windows 1.0 - 5.x (which were a step back from Macintosh and Unix running X11) and Windows Vista (which is a step back from GNU/Linux running X11 and Beryl/Compiz).
Why is M$ living backwards in time?... =P
Upgrade? To XP?
You rather mean a downgrade, don't you?
"four-dimensional black doughnut".
Hypertorus.
let's do some math.
read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD-DVD
and this...
http://rockmetalshop.pl/go/_info/?id=6253
quote:
"1920 × 1080 or about 2.07 million pixels"
this means 2 mb per frame, or 50 mb per second, uncompressed.
multiplied by ~10K seconds of movie, makes 500G of uncompressed stuff.
wow.
but let's compress it.
let's choose that discrete sine algorithm to get rid of unnecessary stuff.
then that technique that gets only the first image, and the rest of the stuff is only what has been changed on that image, you know what i mean, i just don't remember its name.
then let's use some lossless compression algorithm, liek gzip or bzip2 (rather the first one, the second is very cpu hungry)
or maybe other today's best movie compression techniques.
and we managed to pack it to 20-30 gb that MUST fit quite nicely to that blu-ray or hd-dvd disc, official specs say that you can't pack any more.
today it's not a trouble to dl a cd iso image, 700 mb.
yesterday it was possibly a trouble for a sec or two to dl dvd image, which has approx 4,5 gb.
tomorrow, before we could understand what has just happened, 1mbps will be standard. 20 gb will be less than 700 mb yesterday.
those of us who started with 14.4k modem dreamed about isdn. and now, isdn is like crap to adsl, cable. adsl's capabilities are around 6mbps. this makes one megabyte per second.
6mbps.
20GB.
20K seconds. less than 6 hours.
200GB.
200K seconds. 55 hours. two or three days.
what goes next? copper bites the dust. our internet connections will be faster and faster, our NXG hard disks' capacities will be counted in TBs, our ram in GBs, our movie and music libraries will grow. and nothing will stop this.
oh, of course the world's end would.
Heard that SDL, OpenGL, OpenAL and rest of this open stuff is not directly accessing the hardware, but there's yet another set of layers in between. Performance will ___always_____ be lower then. Solution? Use free software =]
It seems that Linux is now a better gaming platform than Vista. NWN, Q3, Jedi Academy, Soldat, Baldur's Gate series... All this stuff works perfectly on my junk under Debian Etch + Wine / Cedega.
Freenet.
>I'm sorry, but it's statements like these that make
>it glaringly obvious why Linux isn't ready for the
>general public. Who the hell is going to go into the
>terminal just to install something? Honestly, I think
>that Linux is best off staying a bit nichey, but why
>should users who like Free software have to deal with it?
In "clean" windows, before you can install ANYTHING that is not from M$ or on a CD, you must:
1. open IE, for example from desktop or start menu
2. go to google, for example www.google.com
3. find the stuff you need, closing 666 popups first. you rarely get the version you actually need (try to find kerio personal firewall 2!)
4. download it (remember to clean up the DL directory from time to time, or it may eat up much space after a few months..)
5. double-click on the installer exe
6. go through installation process (remember to put the stuff on another partition!)
7. repeat the process from point 2 to point 6 for any application you need
8. ready? no way, most of the stuff you REALLY need, must be paid for or "pirated". then,
9. repeat the whole process from point 2 to 6 to download a P2P client
10. install it, run it and configure it (watch out not to connect to a fake server hosted by RIAA or other bad guyz!)
11. search for the stuff you need, also for the crack or serial
12. crack it (i know people who do not know how to crack a game...)
13. enjoy it. wait, you said you downloaded a cd iamge? then...
14. repeat the whole process from point 2 to point 6 to download cd imaging software.
15. maintain a database of cd images. each of them is probably eating lots of hd space.
16. is the stuff finally ready?... possibly...
17. repeat the process from point 2 to point 6 for the virus scanner software, because the crack installed a trojan or two...
18. after a year, re-install the windows, because it is sooooo f*ckin' slow that you can't check your email in time shorter than 15 minutes.
19. and go to point 1.
In "clean" Linux, for example in Debian, all you need to do is:
1. run Synaptic, or $WHATEVER_YOU_USE_FOR_PACKAGE_MANAGEMENT, for example from KDE or GNOME menu
2. give root password (no software can be installed or modified without your permission!)
3. select any applications you want. you'll be warned if you're eventually running out of disk space.
4. click "apply" and wait for stuff to be downloaded either from the net of from the distro cd/dvd
5. ready! enjoy!
That's why Stallman and folks are preparing GPLv3.