Thank you for that. I have grown incredibly weary of "I'm a hardcore gamer and I'm bored with my Wii. They better come out with some good stuff soon, or I'll go back to my launch day PS3 I camped out for six days to buy!"
For the ice dungeon, you have to figure out a lot of puzzles to get to it.
Spoiler-ish, if anyone cares.
I just did this a couple of days ago. I had to resort to the guides when I hit "big overhanging snow drift" on the way there. I hit the thing with the claw, whacked it with a sword, hit it with multiple bombs, everything I could think of. I ran around all over thinking there must be another route.
Looked in guide: "Hit it with my head? Really? How appropriate." A bomb won't bring it down, but hitting it with my head will. Nice.
But it doesn't matter to them. Because so far (that I'm aware of), no one has tried pulling a fast one playing with suffix.
I love trying to explain the difference between MBps and Mbps to non-technical folks and watching their eyes glaze over. They call them Megs. Their iPod has Gigs. They don't give a fuck about the rest of the word.
Does it affect them? Yes. Does it matter? No, not really.
The problem is semantics. Namely, the definition of "hardcore".
I don't mind playing through a long RPG, as I can pick it up and put it down when I have time. Playing the main story isn't hardcore to me. Playing through the main story, all the side quests, collecting every widget, gizmo and trading card, in an incredibly time consuming desire to finish 100%? That's "hardcore" to me (and tedious, boring, generally worthless, etc.).
Judging by the E3 discussions, most folks seem to think hardcore means an awesome looking 1080p FPS where you "blow stuff up REAL GOOD!" From your description, you think most of those are casual. I call them hardcore lately, roughly translating to "not interesting".
It's nice to hear someone else say that. I'm about 35 hours into TP, and I'm enjoying it, but I never understood everyone saying "it's beautiful!" It looks better than Ocarina, and it should, but it's not beautiful.
I've said for a while, folks who Wii-bash or get bored with it tend to do it for the same two reasons: 1) The graphics aren't "up to snuff" and 2) There aren't any "hardcore" games. My only reply to that is, "Yeah, So?" That's not what the Wii is about.
I'm amazed by how many folks bought a Wii and then bitch that there are no 1080p FPS games for it. It's like buying a Chrysler and bitching that it doesn't drive/look/etc. like a Mercedes.
Given the weird review dichotomy (this game is mediocre, YOU MUST HAVE IT!), and the general crappiness of reviews in general lately. . . I'd hold out for the demo.
I also hear there are people who will actually rent you a game for a few bucks a day.
Sucks if you don't care enough to spend that kind of money on a PS3.
There. Fixed that for you. I'll even subtitle it with: and replacing a perfectly good HD set that lacks the right ports. All for some games that make you go, "Eh".
Some day I'll understand why people assume those without PS3's are poor.
Yes. Lots of folks still use it. I am still working through Twilight Princess for the first time. Yeah, the weather and news channels get old REALLY fast. I've also been playing my PS2, so I've never burnt out on the Wii. I'm also looking forward to Strikers Charged at the end of the month.
You don't give any hints, but generally the folks who are terribly bored with it are "gamers". The traditional gamer fodder just isn't on the Wii right now (if it ever is).
From personal experience, I know of five purchased Wii's, my own included. Two own another console, and the non-me one is my brother in law who is a huge Nintendo fanboy.
One of them is my 74 year old father, who plays more than I do. The only consoles he ever purchased before were for me. He hasn't played one since the Atari 2600.
Actually, I'd bet a significant number of purchasers would say the 2600 was their last one, same sort of appeal.
I haven't seen it yet, but I'd have to agree with you.
The Mii creation process/options haven't changed ever on my Wii obtained at Christmas. Maybe they were even lamer at launch, but I doubt it.
I have been surprised by the Mii's people create for themselves, and how much they differ from ones created for them. However, that is more a lesson in psychology than celebrity.
The answer to "What system do you have?" is going to be "I have a Wii and [insert other system]".
Not entirely true. For a personal example, I offer my 74 year old father, who purchased a Wii last week, and spends way too much time one it.
He isn't even interested in Twilight Princess, the by far most popular game on the platform. There is 99% certainly that he will NEVER buy a 360 or PS3, as he doesn't want any of the features they offer. He is certainly not alone.
The Wii is an odd thing, in that it is attracting the Bejeweled crowd in droves. I wonder how long the novelty will last, but guessing it will be a while, as the "gamers" are still bitching at the quality of games available for it.
If your such a fucktard as to not comprehend my point was about SELLING consoles, not buying them, I understand why you have to post AC.
My father makes more money retired than I make working. Either one of us could buy any console we want. Each could buy all the consoles twice if we wanted. We don't want to. I'll probably buy a 360, but not until the hardware problems are fixed, and the price comes down. My father will NEVER buy a 360. He's 74, and doesn't like most games. He could give two shits about being a "true gamer". He does however, have lots of disposable income, and he likes the Wii. He will spend money on Wii games and accessories.
The Wii is a cash-fucking-cow. People who haven't ever owned a gaming console are dropping money on them. The day of the "true gamer" is possibly heading for sunset. Why sell one million copies of a game to the hardcore when you can sell ten million copies of a simpler game to the casual? Microsoft has already stated they are interested in that market (which gets a big "no shit").
So "grow up and get a 360"? Everyone I know personally who has a 360 is still in grade school. Everyone I know with a Wii has a job paying way more than poverty level.
The Wii is changing the gaming world, whether the fanboys want to admit it or not.
To enhance, they expect to turn a profit in 2008.
From Gamasutra:
In a call to Microsoft investors, Bach and Microsoft CFO Christopher Liddell explained that despite the $1 billion the company will incur from the new initiative, the overall health of the Xbox business is very strong.
Liddell added that he was "disappointed in the result from a financial perspective," but that in Microsoft's view "customer satisfaction" was the priority, saying that the undertaking would "strengthen the long term health of Xbox business."
Liddell also said that despite the charges, the company was not updating its fiscal 2008 guidance, with Bach responding to a question saying that the September release of "four letters called H A L O" would cushion the financial blow.
Their current strategy is to poke into a broader market. Particularly, the untapped market that Nintendo is dominating right now. Their execs have frequently said they "know $199 is the sweet spot".
While I see your Halo3 point, how many folks do you see drooling over Halo3 that don't already own a 360? They might even drop the price right around Halo time to really boost sales (especially of the Core system, which would then be right around the "sweet spot").
I see very few system sellers scheduled for this year. Sony usually owns those (e.g. GTA), but lost some of them.
The Wii's target audience is gamers who are too old to still be playing video games but are anyway. The true next-gen gamer is playing on the Xbox 360. It's only old has-beens who refuse to actually grow up and be adults who own the Wii.
AC apparently has no concept of making money, only interest in being a "true next-gen gamer". I'm guessing his criteria for adult happens sometime around "sex with a non-imaginary woman". I'm also guessing that he might not be there yet. . . it is/. after all.
My 70+ father got a Wii last week, and I hear every day how much he's enjoying it. He obviously needs to grow up, so that he can properly give his money to someone else for a game he doesn't want to play.
The fuckwad hasn't shown any propensity for rationality yet, why assume genius would strike now? If you're not peddling an overpriced entertainment system, what do you care what he thinks? Fucking retard new "g4m3rz" think they know everything. . .
My favorite is still the "4 for $20" and "10 for $10" type of deals. It never ceases to amaze me how many people (my wife included) don't read that as $5 or $1 each, but think, "I have to buy 10 of them!"
Given my experience, I'm guessing that despite catching her, she still thinks that way, doesn't she?
I don't remember the exact time frame, but Citibank was doing exactly that 10+ years ago. They still offer them (PhotoCard, Photo ATM Debit).
I can only guess it hasn't become a standard due to card manufacturing costs, combined with the relatively low rate of fraud when the card is present. You can't check the picture when you are taking the number over the phone or internet. That's why they charge higher rates for those transactions.
That's absurd. If you want to argue that their not paying you directly for the code, then they are paying for your ability to write code in a timely fashion. Most employers couldn't give two shits about your time. They value your productivity. Try coding really slowly for an extended period and telling your employer that they are "paying for your time spent creating code."
Security guards aren't paid for their time sitting in the booth. They are paid for their observation and availability on short notice (get there in seconds vs. traveling from a remote location). Many of them suck at it (largely because they think they are being paid for their time) and cause the average wage (i.e. worth) to drop dramatically.
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Thank you for that. I have grown incredibly weary of "I'm a hardcore gamer and I'm bored with my Wii. They better come out with some good stuff soon, or I'll go back to my launch day PS3 I camped out for six days to buy!"
Diffrn't strokes for diffrn't folks.
Cheers.
Spoiler-ish, if anyone cares.
I just did this a couple of days ago. I had to resort to the guides when I hit "big overhanging snow drift" on the way there. I hit the thing with the claw, whacked it with a sword, hit it with multiple bombs, everything I could think of. I ran around all over thinking there must be another route.
Looked in guide: "Hit it with my head? Really? How appropriate." A bomb won't bring it down, but hitting it with my head will. Nice.
But it doesn't matter to them. Because so far (that I'm aware of), no one has tried pulling a fast one playing with suffix.
I love trying to explain the difference between MBps and Mbps to non-technical folks and watching their eyes glaze over. They call them Megs. Their iPod has Gigs. They don't give a fuck about the rest of the word.
Does it affect them? Yes. Does it matter? No, not really.
The problem is semantics. Namely, the definition of "hardcore".
I don't mind playing through a long RPG, as I can pick it up and put it down when I have time. Playing the main story isn't hardcore to me. Playing through the main story, all the side quests, collecting every widget, gizmo and trading card, in an incredibly time consuming desire to finish 100%? That's "hardcore" to me (and tedious, boring, generally worthless, etc.).
Judging by the E3 discussions, most folks seem to think hardcore means an awesome looking 1080p FPS where you "blow stuff up REAL GOOD!" From your description, you think most of those are casual. I call them hardcore lately, roughly translating to "not interesting".
It's nice to hear someone else say that. I'm about 35 hours into TP, and I'm enjoying it, but I never understood everyone saying "it's beautiful!" It looks better than Ocarina, and it should, but it's not beautiful.
I've said for a while, folks who Wii-bash or get bored with it tend to do it for the same two reasons: 1) The graphics aren't "up to snuff" and 2) There aren't any "hardcore" games. My only reply to that is, "Yeah, So?" That's not what the Wii is about.
I'm amazed by how many folks bought a Wii and then bitch that there are no 1080p FPS games for it. It's like buying a Chrysler and bitching that it doesn't drive/look/etc. like a Mercedes.
It gets even creepier when you realize how much of your body isn't human, but symbiotic bacteria and such.
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Given the weird review dichotomy (this game is mediocre, YOU MUST HAVE IT!), and the general crappiness of reviews in general lately. . . I'd hold out for the demo.
I also hear there are people who will actually rent you a game for a few bucks a day.
The problem is finding that one card that is still $600 under the limit.
"Declined? Okay, try this one. Declined? Mary, that's the good one right? Okay try this one. Declined?!? Dammit, I just sent them some money! . . . "
(I laugh, but I remember being like that once.)
Just wanted to say that I'm glad I was toiling through the AC's on this one.
Your responses have been quite amusing. I hope that is some genuine irony/sarcasm I read in this one.
Amazing how they all think they're the first one to point it out, isn't it?
Sucks if you don't care enough to spend that kind of money on a PS3.
There. Fixed that for you. I'll even subtitle it with: and replacing a perfectly good HD set that lacks the right ports. All for some games that make you go, "Eh".
Some day I'll understand why people assume those without PS3's are poor.
Must. . . resist. . . crap:
Hey, use the preview button next time.
Seems like this question keeps popping up. . .
Yes. Lots of folks still use it. I am still working through Twilight Princess for the first time. Yeah, the weather and news channels get old REALLY fast. I've also been playing my PS2, so I've never burnt out on the Wii. I'm also looking forward to Strikers Charged at the end of the month.
You don't give any hints, but generally the folks who are terribly bored with it are "gamers". The traditional gamer fodder just isn't on the Wii right now (if it ever is).
From personal experience, I know of five purchased Wii's, my own included. Two own another console, and the non-me one is my brother in law who is a huge Nintendo fanboy.
One of them is my 74 year old father, who plays more than I do. The only consoles he ever purchased before were for me. He hasn't played one since the Atari 2600.
Actually, I'd bet a significant number of purchasers would say the 2600 was their last one, same sort of appeal.
I haven't seen it yet, but I'd have to agree with you.
The Mii creation process/options haven't changed ever on my Wii obtained at Christmas. Maybe they were even lamer at launch, but I doubt it.
I have been surprised by the Mii's people create for themselves, and how much they differ from ones created for them. However, that is more a lesson in psychology than celebrity.
But. . . but. . . this one goes to eleven!!!
Amazing how subjective the phrase "grown up" has gotten, isn't it?
Not entirely true. For a personal example, I offer my 74 year old father, who purchased a Wii last week, and spends way too much time one it.
He isn't even interested in Twilight Princess, the by far most popular game on the platform. There is 99% certainly that he will NEVER buy a 360 or PS3, as he doesn't want any of the features they offer. He is certainly not alone.
The Wii is an odd thing, in that it is attracting the Bejeweled crowd in droves. I wonder how long the novelty will last, but guessing it will be a while, as the "gamers" are still bitching at the quality of games available for it.
If your such a fucktard as to not comprehend my point was about SELLING consoles, not buying them, I understand why you have to post AC.
My father makes more money retired than I make working. Either one of us could buy any console we want. Each could buy all the consoles twice if we wanted. We don't want to. I'll probably buy a 360, but not until the hardware problems are fixed, and the price comes down. My father will NEVER buy a 360. He's 74, and doesn't like most games. He could give two shits about being a "true gamer". He does however, have lots of disposable income, and he likes the Wii. He will spend money on Wii games and accessories.
The Wii is a cash-fucking-cow. People who haven't ever owned a gaming console are dropping money on them. The day of the "true gamer" is possibly heading for sunset. Why sell one million copies of a game to the hardcore when you can sell ten million copies of a simpler game to the casual? Microsoft has already stated they are interested in that market (which gets a big "no shit").
So "grow up and get a 360"? Everyone I know personally who has a 360 is still in grade school. Everyone I know with a Wii has a job paying way more than poverty level.
The Wii is changing the gaming world, whether the fanboys want to admit it or not.
Oh certainly, if it is required. In our neck of the woods, that it very rare, and almost always only on pop.
They pop up every now and again here, and the buy X get one free always rings up X, then a free one.
Liddell added that he was "disappointed in the result from a financial perspective," but that in Microsoft's view "customer satisfaction" was the priority, saying that the undertaking would "strengthen the long term health of Xbox business."
Liddell also said that despite the charges, the company was not updating its fiscal 2008 guidance, with Bach responding to a question saying that the September release of "four letters called H A L O" would cushion the financial blow.
Their current strategy is to poke into a broader market. Particularly, the untapped market that Nintendo is dominating right now. Their execs have frequently said they "know $199 is the sweet spot".
While I see your Halo3 point, how many folks do you see drooling over Halo3 that don't already own a 360? They might even drop the price right around Halo time to really boost sales (especially of the Core system, which would then be right around the "sweet spot").
I see very few system sellers scheduled for this year. Sony usually owns those (e.g. GTA), but lost some of them.
Maybe he's paid every day. . . You don't know.
(I'm typing this while laughing and nodding my head at the fact that someone else already wrote what I was thinking)
The Wii's target audience is gamers who are too old to still be playing video games but are anyway. The true next-gen gamer is playing on the Xbox 360. It's only old has-beens who refuse to actually grow up and be adults who own the Wii.
AC apparently has no concept of making money, only interest in being a "true next-gen gamer". I'm guessing his criteria for adult happens sometime around "sex with a non-imaginary woman". I'm also guessing that he might not be there yet. . . it is
My 70+ father got a Wii last week, and I hear every day how much he's enjoying it. He obviously needs to grow up, so that he can properly give his money to someone else for a game he doesn't want to play.
The fuckwad hasn't shown any propensity for rationality yet, why assume genius would strike now? If you're not peddling an overpriced entertainment system, what do you care what he thinks? Fucking retard new "g4m3rz" think they know everything. . .
Eh, they do it because it works.
My favorite is still the "4 for $20" and "10 for $10" type of deals. It never ceases to amaze me how many people (my wife included) don't read that as $5 or $1 each, but think, "I have to buy 10 of them!"
Given my experience, I'm guessing that despite catching her, she still thinks that way, doesn't she?
I don't remember the exact time frame, but Citibank was doing exactly that 10+ years ago. They still offer them (PhotoCard, Photo ATM Debit).
I can only guess it hasn't become a standard due to card manufacturing costs, combined with the relatively low rate of fraud when the card is present. You can't check the picture when you are taking the number over the phone or internet. That's why they charge higher rates for those transactions.
That's absurd. If you want to argue that their not paying you directly for the code, then they are paying for your ability to write code in a timely fashion. Most employers couldn't give two shits about your time. They value your productivity. Try coding really slowly for an extended period and telling your employer that they are "paying for your time spent creating code."
Security guards aren't paid for their time sitting in the booth. They are paid for their observation and availability on short notice (get there in seconds vs. traveling from a remote location). Many of them suck at it (largely because they think they are being paid for their time) and cause the average wage (i.e. worth) to drop dramatically.