You forget sakharow. His struggle, the same as einstein's in this matter, desserved the urss government.
urss would have gone down anyway, would the money have been put in something else than nuclear weapons , as it was unable to stand a long economical war against the usa. Wich is what it was all along.
The fact that both systems chose the weapon area to compete the most is a moral standpoint and shows both system as being bad from this point of view. This is the battlefield that einstein and sakharov chose to fight in. Ethics. Responsability. not politics and power.
and I noticed for the fisrt time that the "emperor" in the last scenes has a kinda head butt. Did I unknowingly use the force and somehow have this decision been taken at the same time for this prequel oversea? Or is just someone stupid in this board? Censoring head butt in a movie where one of the major character (jabba) is a huge talking shit!!!
By choosing the path or dirty fightying, by not incorporating new technics and new ways of communicating in they business habits, but instead going the opposite way and fighting every new actor, even the smallest (decss teen sent to court!!!), by trying to steal every new technic or channel from their creator or by trying to prevent them to exist, they made everybody sure that they are the bad guys. Now everybody, from the smallest to the biggest, feel entitled to try to be a big actor in this area, since the bad guys rule it. They shot themselves in the face. Now they look ugly.
Will they try to change their ways or will they play even dirtier??? The answer: Next week, same slash hour, same slash channel.
you forgot to say also that the loki version is completly stable. I played with it over rtc with a 600MHz and tnt2 computer with no problems for months. I still wonder what is this UE thing that windows tribers talk about.
an insolvent company that was named Loki, after the Norse God of Evil and Mischief?
which translates in nowadays language as: Founded by California intellectual property lawyer Scott Draeker
I stopped the patch at 06 or 07, I don't remember, as the 0.8 changes the policy and I'm not found about clicking on I accept button when I don't. Anyway, it works very well with the bnetd server I did setup some time ago. I use it to play with the children, as they are very happy to have their results on our own "ladder". Tell me about "fair use";)
I use bnetd to play starcraft on linux on lan. I'm not going to put ipx just for one game. Yes, I did buy the game, and yes I use winex to play it. I also happen to be the geek to call for a few tens of persons when they have a technical problem or to talk about games. I'm going to advice all those persons to never again buy a blizzard/vivendi game until this affair is settled between vivendi and bnet. There is obviouslly something better to be done for vivendi than to piss off fans with stupid useless legal moves. Piracy is not harmed by this move, nor helped by the existence of bnet.
I can answer only for France as, like in free software, there is no common rules but diversity in Europe. ianal but i did some research for a "multimedia" work I had to do wich involved artists and programmers. In France, authors are protected by an equivalent to your copyright (way to determine who has the right to copy which makes the producer the owner of the rights to the work), but much stronger called "droits d'auteur" (author's rights: way to determine who is the author of a work which makes the artist the owner. by definition, anyone who CREATES a piece of work therefore programmers were added to the list of (novel, lyrics,...) writers.). This particular piece of laws is called "souverain" , as it overrules other laws if applicable, giving hard times in trial to the producer if this one tries to screw the author. One example which will make you understand the difference with the usa: Here, every movie director has the final cut. There's just no way a producer can be granted rights he doesnt own. Would he put by contract something which gives him more rights to the work that this would not stand in court if the author did not recieve a fair contribution in exchange or was not aware of it, even if there's a contract. Also the retribution of a creative work must be re-evaluated, if the work is more sucessfull than planned. They are protected by their status of author.
Yet this right is not unsanely overprotective. Example two: you have to be a real author A movie director who was hired to shoot scenes of one of those adventure games with movie scenes where you click to continue the action, sue his producer because that one refused to give him final cut. Well the producer won the trial because the director was following a pre established framework to shoot every scene (he had no creative freedom in the conception of any scene).Therefore he was, on this work, only doing a technical job, he was not involved in a creative process , so he was not an author.
Giving more power to the creator than to the producer is the only way to have some balance in their relation. All of this would make the misery Orson Welles had to go through impossible, as his work would not be bound to the ego trip of the hollywood producers.
Concerning the software patents, the funny thing is that they never have been needed. Every bearer of rights is protected all along the chain of commands and realisation, and sale also. In fact, behind the push to have them established in Europe is nothing else but those who have patents in the USA and want to enforce them in Europe for more money and power. Which pretty much resolves to american companies, which of course creates a lot of ressentiment against everything that is american. By the way, I clearly remember having seen on tv the signature of a help traity between the usa and Jordania, where the USA gave a lot of money to this troubled state, which was a strong force behind the peace movements in this area. Along, the money was the obligation to comply to software patents and other intellectual property stuff. Also maybe you don't remember that there was a time in your country when they did not exist, but software did? An other thing you must understand is that those patents are hurting one of the most important area of the french soul: the liberty of ideas and its materiel side: the liberty of creation. Art.
Then, about your taking from granted that they will pass in Europe with this vote, don't get fooled. The european commission is going to have a lot of hard times if it continues ot do such thing, as we are not passive people when it comes to politics.
When we get ass raped, we go beyond lobbying and whining.
PS:The two most important thing are:
how can you determine that an idea is different or equal to an other?
is liberty really about enforcing it's own vision of it to every other human being?
And don't ever forget that it was a tentative of coup d'etat over the whole industry of memory and a direct attempt to kill the asian giants.
Whoever planned this, should know leave with honor through a ritual sepuku.
"We have long relied on the assurance that Good Things (tm) will be maintained by organized parties with financial incentive" Maybe that's the problem. Justice is so important over there, yet you agree, in a silent way, that It's being used as a tool by organized parties with financial incentives.
Maybe your respect of Justice is right, but your conception of it is lacking a few notions... like the concept of social justice...?
The whole point of that quote being important is not that someone said it, or that someone famous said it, but that someone famous for being in a position of great power is that stupid.
But of course, after having accepted "things" such as R Reagan or GW Bush, it seems OK.
I use konqueror in blackbox and have no trouble.
So where is your point?
As much as I like the mozilla project, and although I don't care there is delay as long as the project is going on and improving, I can see the point in the "Hasn't the ship passed already?" interrogation.
And you haven't answered it yet. I'm sure you could have. The ship isn't about differences for the sake of the right to difference. The ship is about being at the right place at the right time (TM Ellington).
Wrong!!
When you drink absynthe, you immediatly notice the ill effects, as they are what makes this liquor really different.
I drank it once without knowing what it was and the state it put me in had nothing to do with "regular" alcohol. And for this exact reason, although it was a really pleasant effect, I never drank it again.
But you're even wronger if you think that the fight against gmo is based on the fear they could induce cancer or such.
The concern is that they could have side effects on the ENVIRONMENT as a whole.
Also I've heard many people saying that ecological farming is about better food.
Wrong, it's about healthier soil first. Healthier food is a consequence. Better food a matter of taste.
Once in jordania, the acceptation of us patent system (it meant at that time accepting sofware patents among other things) was a condition of a money grant (it was probably called help by the us side).
There is probably other examples of this behavior.
First: this is not helping, this is bribery at best, more probably racket.
Second: such deals are worth nothing. Don't except people you force to obey, to be gratefull.
Are you sure nobody will be ressentfull eventually ?
Third: Doesn't it show an agenda behind those patent law? At least a lobby somewhere, which is acting to have those laws in as many countries it can?
The country was so broke the fmi had to give it billions of $ in order to stay afloat.
At the same moment m$ asked the government to pay for all its licenses and proposed a "deal".
perfect timing.
But this law may be a consequence of this m$ strategic move. People over there are very sensitive about freedom.
They know its value.
I meant i dumped the game after one hour and at the cost of a lot of disappointment.
Molyneux's games are always higly awaited for their originality and often really bad on the playability area.
I've already read reviews wich says about B&W: "this games, as a game is boring, but it's because it's not a game, it's a masterpiece of originality which you can't drop, not knowing why"
well too me it looks bad. I've already been there,seen that and felt the pain.
I will not buy the game until I've tried it really (it means: NOT a demo) because I'd really like the game to be good.
Also they were really talking about a linux version.
I was not trolling, just tired, it was 6am here and had no sleep.
now i'm back to 13 and I have to kill someone for that...8-{
i love the second letter oh this week edition.
quotes: I think we should be frank. There is no point in fighting
a war of propaganda. There is no denying the accusation
that one of the main aims of the free software movement is
a socialistic one. I don't really care that in the U.S.A.,
calling something "socialist" means that it is soon
called "communist" and then "Stalinist" and then (worst
of all!) "un-American". Sticks and stones. One of the
advantages of the free software movement being so international
as it is, is that it ought to be easier for us to think outside
the box of American political discourse. br>
The GPL is socialistic in that it is designed to promote a
social goal, which is the establishment of a archive of free
software and a community of developers dedicated to enlarging
and enhancing it. Ultimately it may occur that this body of
software becomes so extensive and attractive that it becomes
indispensible---that it becomes a public-domain homologue
for what Microsoft software is now. The goal is to
revolutionize the means of production of software and to
establish a new mode of software distribution: To each
according to his need; from each according to his ability.
If the movement is successful---if GPLed software becomes
"the standard"---then it will be more difficult for software
companies to make money selling proprietary software. So
the free software movement is not only socialistic in its
goals, but dangerous to a certain form of capitalism too.
In the case of Microsoft Corporation, the movement is openly
hostile.
To those who complain that these goals aren't the American Way,
let us simply say: Well, if that's true, then so much the
worse for the American Way.
reflect the environmentally friendly aspects of an energy efficient Linux operating system" which is not a bad thing.
linux and such are already doing a lot in the economical and political aspects of our societies.
why stopping there?
i easily imagine myself choosing a computer and its os if it respects environment also.
noise also matters. and eyes friendly screens.
I want a nature, society and to-myself friendly computers.
Many patents have already been granted in europe using this loophole: examples
some companies just wait for one european law to start enforcing them.
here they say they just need a new way to determine the difference between a software and a software truly tied to a device.
my opinion: they can't.
why do they do that: big firms pressure.
Slashdot Mirror
You forget sakharow. His struggle, the same as einstein's in this matter, desserved the urss government.
urss would have gone down anyway, would the money have been put in something else than nuclear weapons , as it was unable to stand a long economical war against the usa. Wich is what it was all along.
The fact that both systems chose the weapon area to compete the most is a moral standpoint and shows both system as being bad from this point of view. This is the battlefield that einstein and sakharov chose to fight in.
Ethics. Responsability. not politics and power.
and I noticed for the fisrt time that the "emperor" in the last scenes has a kinda head butt.
Did I unknowingly use the force and somehow have this decision been taken at the same time for this prequel oversea?
Or is just someone stupid in this board?
Censoring head butt in a movie where one of the major character (jabba) is a huge talking shit!!!
By choosing the path or dirty fightying, by not incorporating new technics and new ways of communicating in they business habits, but instead going the opposite way and fighting every new actor, even the smallest (decss teen sent to court!!!), by trying to steal every new technic or channel from their creator or by trying to prevent them to exist, they made everybody sure that they are the bad guys.
Now everybody, from the smallest to the biggest, feel entitled to try to be a big actor in this area, since the bad guys rule it.
They shot themselves in the face. Now they look ugly.
Will they try to change their ways or will they play even dirtier???
The answer: Next week, same slash hour, same slash channel.
you forgot to say also that the loki version is completly stable. I played with it over rtc with a 600MHz and tnt2 computer with no problems for months.
I still wonder what is this UE thing that windows tribers talk about.
an insolvent company that was named Loki, after the Norse God of Evil and Mischief?
which translates in nowadays language as:
Founded by California intellectual property lawyer Scott Draeker
also if you go through the starcraft wwinex forums, you will notice that people have trouble with this patch.
I stopped the patch at 06 or 07, I don't remember, as the 0.8 changes the policy and I'm not found about clicking on I accept button when I don't. ;)
Anyway, it works very well with the bnetd server I did setup some time ago. I use it to play with the children, as they are very happy to have their results on our own "ladder".
Tell me about "fair use"
I use bnetd to play starcraft on linux on lan. I'm not going to put ipx just for one game.
Yes, I did buy the game, and yes I use winex to play it.
I also happen to be the geek to call for a few tens of persons when they have a technical problem or to talk about games.
I'm going to advice all those persons to never again buy a blizzard/vivendi game until this affair is settled between vivendi and bnet. There is obviouslly something better to be done for vivendi than to piss off fans with stupid useless legal moves.
Piracy is not harmed by this move, nor helped by the existence of bnet.
I can answer only for France as, like in free software, there is no common rules but diversity in Europe. ...) writers.).
.
ianal but i did some research for a "multimedia" work I had to do wich involved artists and programmers.
In France, authors are protected by an equivalent to your copyright (way to determine who has the right to copy which makes the producer the owner of the rights to the work), but much stronger called "droits d'auteur" (author's rights: way to determine who is the author of a work which makes the artist the owner. by definition, anyone who CREATES a piece of work therefore programmers were added to the list of (novel, lyrics,
This particular piece of laws is called "souverain" , as it overrules other laws if applicable, giving hard times in trial to the producer if this one tries to screw the author.
One example which will make you understand the difference with the usa:
Here, every movie director has the final cut.
There's just no way a producer can be granted rights he doesnt own. Would he put by contract something which gives him more rights to the work that this would not stand in court if the author did not recieve a fair contribution in exchange or was not aware of it, even if there's a contract.
Also the retribution of a creative work must be re-evaluated, if the work is more sucessfull than planned.
They are protected by their status of author.
Yet this right is not unsanely overprotective.
Example two: you have to be a real author
A movie director who was hired to shoot scenes of one of those adventure games with movie scenes where you click to continue the action, sue his producer because that one refused to give him final cut. Well the producer won the trial because the director was following a pre established framework to shoot every scene (he had no creative freedom in the conception of any scene).Therefore he was, on this work, only doing a technical job, he was not involved in a creative process , so he was not an author.
Giving more power to the creator than to the producer is the only way to have some balance in their relation
All of this would make the misery Orson Welles had to go through impossible, as his work would not be bound to the ego trip of the hollywood producers.
Concerning the software patents, the funny thing is that they never have been needed. Every bearer of rights is protected all along the chain of commands and realisation, and sale also.
In fact, behind the push to have them established in Europe is nothing else but those who have patents in the USA and want to enforce them in Europe for more money and power. Which pretty much resolves to american companies, which of course creates a lot of ressentiment against everything that is american.
By the way, I clearly remember having seen on tv the signature of a help traity between the usa and Jordania, where the USA gave a lot of money to this troubled state, which was a strong force behind the peace movements in this area. Along, the money was the obligation to comply to software patents and other intellectual property stuff.
Also maybe you don't remember that there was a time in your country when they did not exist, but software did?
An other thing you must understand is that those patents are hurting one of the most important area of the french soul: the liberty of ideas and its materiel side: the liberty of creation. Art.
Then, about your taking from granted that they will pass in Europe with this vote, don't get fooled. The european commission is going to have a lot of hard times if it continues ot do such thing, as we are not passive people when it comes to politics.
When we get ass raped, we go beyond lobbying and whining.
PS:The two most important thing are:
how can you determine that an idea is different or equal to an other?
is liberty really about enforcing it's own vision of it to every other human being?
"We don't tend to be experts in forecasting."
this is the one that had me laughing.
And don't ever forget that it was a tentative of coup d'etat over the whole industry of memory and a direct attempt to kill the asian giants.
Whoever planned this, should know leave with honor through a ritual sepuku.
He paid only $300 000e ws id_1438000/1438362.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/n
"We have long relied on the assurance that Good Things (tm) will be maintained by organized parties with financial incentive" ...?
Maybe that's the problem. Justice is so important over there, yet you agree, in a silent way, that It's being used as a tool by organized parties with financial incentives.
Maybe your respect of Justice is right, but your conception of it is lacking a few notions... like the concept of social justice
As many of those news appears on slashdot, i find it more and more to be a jokeboard . Keep up the good work USA, make us laugh.
The whole point of that quote being important is not that someone said it, or that someone famous said it, but that someone famous for being in a position of great power is that stupid.
But of course, after having accepted "things" such as R Reagan or GW Bush, it seems OK.
I use konqueror in blackbox and have no trouble. So where is your point? .
As much as I like the mozilla project, and although I don't care there is delay as long as the project is going on and improving, I can see the point in the "Hasn't the ship passed already?" interrogation
And you haven't answered it yet. I'm sure you could have. The ship isn't about differences for the sake of the right to difference. The ship is about being at the right place at the right time (TM Ellington).
what would happen if A LOT OF people sent them an email saying this disclaimer sucks and included the disclaimer in it?
Wrong!!
When you drink absynthe, you immediatly notice the ill effects, as they are what makes this liquor really different.
I drank it once without knowing what it was and the state it put me in had nothing to do with "regular" alcohol. And for this exact reason, although it was a really pleasant effect, I never drank it again.
But you're even wronger if you think that the fight against gmo is based on the fear they could induce cancer or such.
The concern is that they could have side effects on the ENVIRONMENT as a whole.
Also I've heard many people saying that ecological farming is about better food.
Wrong, it's about healthier soil first. Healthier food is a consequence. Better food a matter of taste.
Once in jordania, the acceptation of us patent system (it meant at that time accepting sofware patents among other things) was a condition of a money grant (it was probably called help by the us side).
There is probably other examples of this behavior.
First: this is not helping, this is bribery at best, more probably racket.
Second: such deals are worth nothing. Don't except people you force to obey, to be gratefull.
Are you sure nobody will be ressentfull eventually ?
Third: Doesn't it show an agenda behind those patent law? At least a lobby somewhere, which is acting to have those laws in as many countries it can?
how long before a rebuild of this administration is done?
Nobody can accept beeing made a fool of by everybody around for too long.
The country was so broke the fmi had to give it billions of $ in order to stay afloat.
At the same moment m$ asked the government to pay for all its licenses and proposed a "deal".
perfect timing.
But this law may be a consequence of this m$ strategic move. People over there are very sensitive about freedom.
They know its value.
I meant i dumped the game after one hour and at the cost of a lot of disappointment.
Molyneux's games are always higly awaited for their originality and often really bad on the playability area.
I've already read reviews wich says about B&W:
"this games, as a game is boring, but it's because it's not a game, it's a masterpiece of originality which you can't drop, not knowing why"
well too me it looks bad. I've already been there,seen that and felt the pain.
I will not buy the game until I've tried it really (it means: NOT a demo) because I'd really like the game to be good.
Also they were really talking about a linux version.
I was not trolling, just tired, it was 6am here and had no sleep.
now i'm back to 13 and I have to kill someone for that...8-{
i love the second letter
oh this week edition. quotes:
I think we should be frank. There is no point in fighting a war of propaganda. There is no denying the accusation that one of the main aims of the free software movement is a socialistic one. I don't really care that in the U.S.A., calling something "socialist" means that it is soon called "communist" and then "Stalinist" and then (worst of all!) "un-American". Sticks and stones. One of the advantages of the free software movement being so international as it is, is that it ought to be easier for us to think outside the box of American political discourse.
br> The GPL is socialistic in that it is designed to promote a social goal, which is the establishment of a archive of free software and a community of developers dedicated to enlarging and enhancing it. Ultimately it may occur that this body of software becomes so extensive and attractive that it becomes indispensible---that it becomes a public-domain homologue for what Microsoft software is now. The goal is to revolutionize the means of production of software and to establish a new mode of software distribution: To each according to his need; from each according to his ability. If the movement is successful---if GPLed software becomes "the standard"---then it will be more difficult for software companies to make money selling proprietary software. So the free software movement is not only socialistic in its goals, but dangerous to a certain form of capitalism too. In the case of Microsoft Corporation, the movement is openly hostile.
To those who complain that these goals aren't the American Way, let us simply say: Well, if that's true, then so much the worse for the American Way.
reflect the environmentally friendly aspects of an energy efficient Linux operating system" which is not a bad thing.
linux and such are already doing a lot in the economical and political aspects of our societies.
why stopping there?
i easily imagine myself choosing a computer and its os if it respects environment also.
noise also matters. and eyes friendly screens.
I want a nature, society and to-myself friendly computers.
Many patents have already been granted in europe using this loophole:
examples
some companies just wait for one european law to start enforcing them.
here they say they just need a new way to determine the difference between a software and a software truly tied to a device.
my opinion: they can't.
why do they do that: big firms pressure.