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Attack of the Clones Cut in UK
MartyJG writes "The British Board of Film Classification has demanded a cut in Ep2 AOTC for a head-butt. I don't know which is more extreme: UK viewers insisting on viewing the US version for 1 second of extra film, or that a 1 second cut means the difference between a '12' (~PG-13) and a 'PG' certificate. For some reason the distributors must think fewer people would see the film if it was a '12'. The film report is on the BBFC website."
...thing is that it gets cut in the first place...
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For some reason the distributors must think fewer people would see the film if it was a '12'.
My daughter is four, and she's looking forward to the new Star Wars film. So that's one.
Company chose to cut sight of a head butt to achieve a "PG". A "12" uncut was available to the distributor. Wow - that has to be the most worthwhile cut in film history. Of course, you have to be 12 before you can learn how to headbutt someone.....
It's just a stupid piece of textile. You Americans are way too attached to symbols: get out more.
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This is hilarious. Hey, those of you on the other side of the pond, is it OK for kids to watch soccer (where there is much more contact)? If NFL Europe censored? Or how about this: What do you guys do when the Big Show wrestles on RAW? About all that goof can do is throw headbutts...
I just wish that they'd cut out Jaja Binks in the UK release of Episode 1...
I've never been fond of British law (gun control for example) but honestly, who the heck cares? I view ratings as a 'suggestion', if I am concerned with the content I watch it first; if I am comfortable taking my kids to it after that I will, but to rely on some quasi-"We know what's best"-entity telling you what you can and cannot watch is utterly stupid.
But that one second is going to be seen as very important by purists. You get over excessive fans of the series who'd be decimated by missing even the smallest part of it (anoracks of the series.) - the fact that that one second makes the difference between a 12 certificate film and a PG film is just worrying though, how adult in nature must that one second be?
I think they are trying to get as many age groups as possible, in the past Lucas has said that he doesn't pay any attention to the demographics of his fan base.
That said I think it is common practice for film producers to add scenes to get certain ratings. For instance I think fewer people would go see a horror movie that wasn't rated R. Then they choose to market that same movies toward teens knowing it makes teens "feel" like adults to go see an R rated movie.
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I totally agree. I found the scene where Darth Maul was cut in half. Even if this character had his amazing footwork, speed and the scary look he still was nothing like the Evil Darth Vader in Episode 4. I guess nobody was really afraid of this man who rarely said nothing, thus they really didn't care about if he even was killed. Still Lucas decided to cut him in half. I almost laughed at this stupid scene.
If he was as scary as Darth Vader I might agree that we really needed to get justice for all his evil.. Lucas, you hear me? Withdraw Episode 2 and make it scary as hell. Then you can cut heads and stuff!
- U - Any age
- PG - Parental Guidance - If you are under 12, you have to be with a parent to see it
- 12 - 12 yeras or over
- 15 - 15 years or over
- 18 - you get the idea...
These are all legally binding (i.e. the cinema will get fined if they let a 10 year old into a 12 film). Basically, if AotC got a 12 cert, then Lucas would loose all those kids who he seems to be aiming at, and it would be less £££ (or $$$) for George." To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research. "
Acc. to the site, run time is 2 hours, 22 minutes. A good long film... one second will likely not be missed.
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All those over a one-second headbutt? I wonder how many British children are exposed to professional wrestling? They'll see loads there.
But even on the other side, this is one of those things where ignorance is bliss. If this was never reported, no one would have complained, since one second is a trivial amount of footage.
I'd have to side with leaving the footage in. After all, there's much worse violence than a lousy head-butt.
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Argh! Now I know there is a head butt in AOTC! Please no spoilers please! Next thing you know someone is going to go around telling everyone that Yoda is Luke's uncle.
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They're just afraid that seeing a head-butt will inspire all the soccer-hooligans in the audience to riot.
Well, that takes care of my UK-bashing for the day. Now on to the French...
It's all very well cutting out Head-butt (who was much funnier than Beavis, IMO), but what happens when a bunch of impressionable six-year-olds watch the movie and emulate the language of their heroes?
I can just picture them reciting their twelve-times-tables in class...
Four times twelve, forty-eight is
Five times twelve, sixty is
This is a much more egregious assault on our children than a guy with a lightsabre quoting Ezekiel 25:17 as he pops a photon in a bot's ass.
...that while a movie that shows graphic violence, including decapitations, disembowellings and other acts of torture and sickness that turn viewers' stomachs can still a 'PG-13' or 'R' rating in the US, while just about any sort of hint of sexual acts, both heterosexual and homosexual, will merit at the very least an 'R' or an 'X' rating?
American censors and the film ratings boards seem to believe that it's OK for people to see violence because it won't affect them at all. Hey, the country was founded in a pit of blood during the Revolutionary War. But it's a hell of a lot better to have that on screen than it is to see two people who love each other show it intimately. Better that we have teenagers running into their school brandishing easily-purchased assault rifles than it is to have them falling in love with someone and spending time with them.
I'm just curious when the culture of violence and hate that the United States pushes on its citizens will finally become tiresome or offensive to them. Look at crime rates in Europe, where guns are near impossible to get hold of and where there are no restrictive anti-sex laws on television. Is it any wonder that their crime rates per capita are significantly lower than the US?
Let's keep producing more violent movies and glorifying war, like Platoon, Saving Private Ryan and all the Rambo movies do. That'll make everyone safer...
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Did anyone else see the "Contains sci-fi action, violence, and peril" part? This just begs for a Python tangent of some sort.
"No, No, the headbutt is far too perilous"
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I was 3 years old when SW:ANH came out and for some reason my brother had to take me to see it. At around about the time that Luke was saying "Red-5 standing by..." I explained to my brother that I was about to pee my pants. So, he did the hygienic thing and took me to the toilet. When we got back, the death star was history, Luke had called Leia "Carrie" and everyone was getting their medals.
Every bad thing that has happened to me since then I consider cosmic payback.
Oh... and didn't someone get their arm chopped off in a bar fight somewhere in that movie? Is that maybe a little worse than a head butt? What was the rating back then? It was NRC (Not Recommended for Children) in Australia.
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Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
The difference is, Kids is an obvious parody and exaggeration of inner-city youth. There was no way watching it that you would get the sense that any of it was real. It was more a comedy than a documentary, and many of the viewers got the wrong impression and due to this misinterpretation, the movie received something of a bad reputation that it really didn't deserve. There were no graphic scenes of rape or violence that were shoved in viewers' faces. Anybody who takes the Kids with anything but a grain of comedic salt is simply taking the movie far too seriously. I thoroughly enjoyed the film, as did Roger Ebert when he reviewed it nearly seven years ago, and thought it was quite amusing in a 'cinema grotesque' way. There is simply no comparison between it and Platoon and Saving Private Ryan, which bombarded the viewers with horrible, brutal acts of violence.
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well you bastards got to see the real version of Eyes Wide Shut, so its payback time .......not that i don't have an .mpeg of that scene anyway ;-)
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I'll see the film in france, land of the free...
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...for the UK. If not for their doing dumbass things like this, the US would have a monopoly on public acts of stupidity.
Logical: "Let's see, 'sliced in half by lightsabre[1]' - OK, 'headbut' - unacceptable."
So, we (and every other post so far) have established that this isn't a logical move. We can move on to considering emotional or political.
Emotional: "People sliced in half by lightsabres doesn't bother me, but a headbut really upsets me." One could argue that the lightsaber is purely fictional, whereas the headbut is grounded in reality, so this might be a possibility. However, since the job of the censor is to protect the under 12 crowd, assuming a sophisticated, reasoned emotional response like this is asking too much.
Political: PHB Censor: "Ian[2], this movie is too violent, you need to make some cuts"
Ian the Censor: "Actually, I quite liked the movie and I didn't find any use of violence gratutious."
PHB Censor: "Dammit, Ian, I said make some cuts."
Ian: "OK Boss". Hmmm, what can I cut that won't actually make any difference in the movie?
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[2] seem's like there's a 50/50 chance of the guy being called Ian
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The whole censorship thingie has been flying around for years now, the BBFC class themselves as the moral guardians of modern british society...which frankly has annoyed more people over the years than our goverment has, and thats saying something.
Tbh, i dont think a 1 second cut will affect the film at all, but still its the principle of the matter...why do we have a legally binding orginisation that can tell us what we can and can't watch? Freedom of choice doesn't exist in all aspects of life it may seem.
Just my $0.02 on the subject, i did media studies at college and i think i have a good look on the system...but prove me wrong if u feel u want to :)
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I totally agree with this. Sex is never proven to destroy people's mind, however I constantly see kids hitting other kids in some strange style they've seen in a movie. Like Kung-Fu and similar.
I suppose that gives Lucas an extra reason to release a shitload of different versions onto DVD..
I can imagine the sticky label: NOW WITH AN EXTRA 1 SECOND OF NEVER-SEEN-BEFORE FOOTAGE!
Its the way it works. The BBFC has some strict guidelines about what requirements are for a given rating. They are very sensitive towards headbutting for some reason. I think they fear kids might actually do this, and feel its more dangerous than a punch.
The dvd release of The Matrix in the UK had a headbutt cut out. They couldn't be bothered to amend the directors commentary track to match so the UK R2 release doesn't have the commentary track on it.
Large hunting knife in the forehead, yes, headbutt, no.
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Well, I guess that missing second will circulate as a surprisingly small mpeg on the Net for those really badly worried.... :-)
Can't I have just a little peril?
No... It's too perilous.
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I remember when The Abyss was new, i wanted to buy it on VHS - but the British had censored the bit with rat in the special liquid solution (probably thought it was cruelty towards animals...) BUT it seems the rest of europe was getting the british version? Ie, we were all stuck with their censorship - didn't make sense to me, but that's the way it was.
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I'm thinking if the headbutt must be that bad, then the guy's head must explode or something!! That'd be cool!
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When I read the quote, I thought this was about some alient with a butt for a head (this is Star Wars after all).
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We moved over here from the States last year, and I find the UK rating system to be a royal pain. There are far too many movies we aren't allowed to take our 10 year old to see. Recent example: The Scorpion King. It's irrelevant that I think the violence in the movie is about as dangerous to my children's well-being as watching The Simpsons (which airs 3 or 4 times a day). The law says she can't go in, and that's that. Another gripe: Why does it take SO LONG for most US movies to make it across the pond? It wasn't until about 6 months after having moved here that I was able to watch something I hadn't already seen in the US before the move. Not only are these UK censors unreasonably paranoid, they're damn S-L-O-W!!!
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And I hope, for their sake, they haven't made the prints yet -- I don't know when the release in the UK is, but in Australia it's in less than 2 weeks (I think). Changing the master negative before production would've been a lot easier, not to mention cheaper.
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But this change is justified for classification reasons. Consider, for comparison, Moulin Rouge. The Australian launch was on 11 screens in one entire complex about three days before the release date. Prints were sitting in every metropolitan cinema in the country, and after the premiere, director Baz Luhrmann decided to make 2 trivial changes affecting reels 3 and 7 (off memory) and every theatre had to apply these changes with new reels. Says something about the man's frame-of-mind don't you think.
Someone "Luke, I am your Uncle" just doesn't have the same ring. Lucas is just really loosing his touch these days ;-)
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They cut a one second shot of someone being headbutted???
But their okay with all the other scenes of people being carved into bits by light sabers.
If it's the kind of headbutt where the other guys head explodes, that might be different, but since they didn't tender an opinion on why they chose to cut that one second, we'll never know...
Oh well, good thing I live in the USA. The goverement maybe stealing my personal rights out from under my feet, but hot diggity damn, I'll have my head butts!
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Headbutts are consistently cut out of films and TV destined for child and young teen viewing in the UK - and for good reason. A Glasgow kiss is an excellent way to really hurt someone, and if you get it right, can be fatal. It's far easier to copy a headbutt and hurt your playmate than cause ABH with a Teenage Mutant Ninja death-blow or a Vulcan nerve-pinch.
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Excellent points. This is exactly what's happening a country where George Bush Sr. actually said that he believed atheists ought not to be citizens... Scary that.
That extra second is when we see Anakin cop a feel of Padme. It's a perk of being a Sith Lord.
Has anyone here ever tried demanding a refund from a cinema after unknowingly watching a censored film, on the grounds that they were not showing the film they had claimed to? I'm tempted to try an ASA complaint against a cinema that advertises that it's showing AOTC and doesn't mention the cut.
Us brits always get our headbutts cut. The worst case recently has to be the Matrix - 15 seconds were cut, all due to headbutts. What really sucks is that this threw off the timing of the Music-only-Soundtrack/directors commentry extra, intended for inclusion on the DVD, so they binned it. 15 seconds and a couple of dvd extra's down the pan. If anyone's interested in seeing what else the british board of film clasifictaion deletes from movies try http://www30.brinkster.com/dvdcuts/default.asp for dvd releases and http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/ for general uk censorship
um... doesn't luke's hand get cut OFF in empire? and doesn't he hack off his own father's hand in ROJ?
hell, even in TPM alone, Qui-Gonn gets gutted and Darth Maul gets gut in HALF.
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How many kids have lightsabers? How many have heads?
Try to bear in mind that this cut is to allow really, really young children to watch the film.
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Just call Star Wars a news program and it can have all the violence it wants and no rating.
or better yet it's a scared strait program. this way kidswon't become evil overlords looking to take over the galexy
There's a commercial that plays during kids' shows for some AotC action figures. What's really bad is that they go though the basic plot of the movie and give away MASSIVE SPOILERS in the voice-over. You'll find yourself exposed to details of the space battle with Jango, which jedi knight dies and who kills him, and more. Many more spoilers than any of the movie trailers.
Could someone explain me what is the meaning of "head-butt"? Thanks.
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and I noticed for the fisrt time that the "emperor" in the last scenes has a kinda head butt.
Did I unknowingly use the force and somehow have this decision been taken at the same time for this prequel oversea?
Or is just someone stupid in this board?
Censoring head butt in a movie where one of the major character (jabba) is a huge talking shit!!!
While there is all the different ratings that dictate age more than in the US, if you want to see nudity (topless anyway), the kiddies (any age) just have to go to any corner shop (they call 'em news agents, I believe) and open up to page 3 of the newspaper, or check out the naturalist magazine with front cover photos on the magazine rack.
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Tyler Durden could replace the 1 second with a much more appropriate clip...
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...I'd be upset if the one second was a glimpse of Natalie Portman's bared breastses... but a headbutt? Nah...go ahead and cut it. :-)
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SHORT GUY IN THE BACK: "Look, I understand that a headbutt might be a little violent for you raters out there... I UNDERSTAND. Real quick though, why is it you object to the headbutt, but wholesale chopping off of limbs with a lightsabre is totally okay?"
THE BOARD: "Oh, sit down! We judge the morals around here!"
Seriously. The headbutt is a guy wearing a helmet (Boba Fett?). I can see some little reject putting on a hockey helmet and fracturing the skull of the kid next door, though I don't imagine we'll hear of any "school photon-blaster rampages" in the near future. They censor by what is realistic. If a kid figures out how to cut someone in half with a flashlight, the censors will get that, too.
Until that day comes, you can watch saber-duels, but not metal-helmet-adorned head cracking.
Does this mean that the discovery channel's special on Rhino's is rated R?
For readers not in the UK: there is a cultural bias in the UK towards headbutting. Go to an Accident & Emergency on a Friday or Saturday night and you will find someone with a broken nose who has been in a fight at closing time. (That's when pubs and bars have to close by law.)
The PG is warranted because in the UK we believe there's a link between watching and doing. (Please don't even bother arguing about this - think of adverts before you press a single key.)
And we think it's a good idea not to do things that encourage violence by depicting realistic scenes or glamourising it.
That a few months or so after it's been released on DVD there's a special 'uncut' version on a 12 certificate, with an extra 1 second of never-before seen footage!
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Come on. Are u telling me there is only *one* headbutt in a Star Wars movie made in this day and age?
A _head-butt_? Come on! That's something I expect to see in a barroom brawl or in Guy Ritchie's latest turkey, not in a Star Wars movie.
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I might be wrong (not having the video handy), but I thought that Darth Maul used a head-butt to distract Qui-Gon Jinn right before he finished him off.
So are head-butts a new target for the BBFC, or did they miss that one? (It would've been a tough cut...)
Grow a brain, Europeans don't watch your stupid 'pick the ball up for two seconds then do nothing for two minutes' sport.
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Look its as simple as this... the US is more careful about letting sexual content into films than violence... and in the EU it's the other way around, with more care taken over violence in films.
Violent acts that the film board believe are likely to be imitated by *young* children, will get the film a cert allowing only older children to view it.
It reflects the different values of the two continents, and that's ok.
And as an aside, a sure fire way to get a film an 18 cert., is to mix even a hint of violence with sex. More than a hint of violence with sex has to be justified strongly in terms of plot or the film will simply be refused a certificate.
Few objected, because it wasn't "graphic violence".
...if he wanted the film to have the same form worldwide. The British censors (right or wrong) are at least 100% consistent on this one point:
The british cuts of The Matrix, Die Hard, etc... ALL have the head butts removed, and they aren't even 12 rated!!
The US censors sex and swearing, the UK censors violence...maybe its no surpirse our school children don't go around shooting each other to get attention
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A "G" rating is the kiss of death to a movie in the US, it means it's too tame, it's a kiddie flick. That's why, early in the film "ET" the phrase "penis breath" was used. It caused a jump to PG-13, which boosted ticket sales immensely. That line was totally unnecessary, it didn't even fit in, but it did get the the movie rated PG-13.
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The British Board of Film Classification has demanded a cut in Ep2 AOTC for a head-butt.
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Gee, thanks for the spoiler warning!
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What annoys me about this kind of stuff is that people will actually cut parts out of a movie to get a certain target rating. This is why movies suck.
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You probably don't want kids running around thinking that headbutting other kids is a valid option. I think that this kind of censorship is reprehensible, but I can see why someone would do it.
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As for me, I'll wait for a lobotomy or reincarnation, without which I'm afraid I can't enjoy "attack of the clones."
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No, here's what it is (including the edited part):
"Meesa called JarJ-AIEEEEE!!!!!" (light saber sounds). Mace Windu shouts "Shut the FUCK up!!"
stick the nut into some little kiddy's face
... uh ... something else. While we're on the subject, "head" means something else too ...
I realise that by "nut" you meant "head" (mostly from the context). But in American slang it means
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You can run someone through with a light saber, cut them in half and have their computer generated parts tumble down a shaft, and still maintain a PG...but if you head-butt them, it must be PG-13? I guess there aren't any light sabers around to imitate such an action, huh?...but we have plenty of head-butters...or should I say butter-heads?
...my sister must have watched this movie with her psychic powers when she spontaneously started head-butting my entire family at the age of one...gotta be it...of course it could have been any of the other movies she never watched...
...now if it was a head-in-butt, that might be a problem, since it would realistically portray a censor in action ^o^
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Let's just hope he didn't cut all the Ewok porn again... nothing i like more than Ewok some sassy, saucy ewok sex.
Oh wait! That's just my dyslexia kicking in again. Nevermind
So, UK rating boards have enough of an issue with headbutting to bump Episode II up to a 12 rating.
Didn't Darth Maul headbutt Qui-Gon, though, just before he gored him in The Phantom Menace?
Was Episode I rated PG? If so, why was the headbutt okay then but not now?
See, the swiss don't do their entire military service at one time, they can do it over the span of a decade or two - a couple weeks at a time.
A quick look at the crime statistics in switzerland will show that it's obviously NOT guns that cause crime!
Does the UK screen that Pepsi ad with the two wrestlers?
If so, there would be nothing left of it without the headbutts!
It's little wonder then, that the UK authorities might be wanting to reduce glorification of these activities.
For much the same reason, cigarette smoking is largely disappearing from public view.
OS/2 - because choice is a terrible thing to waste.
Let me ask you this: Did we actually see Darth Maul die? We saw him forcibly removed from his own torso, yes. But does that mean he's dead?
Maul will be coming back, I guarantee it. He'll come back as a floating torso, but all that does is open up a vast range of spinning moves that he couldn't have dreamed of performing earlier. I can just imagine him slashing through wave after wave of Jedi Knights like some satanic buzz saw.
You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!
I'm one of the many guys who want to change this picture. But 'the rest' will often regard us as perverts of some kind. Think about this: William Wallace (Braveheart) in his kilt is a very masculine figure, but men who wear kilts in our society can get some strange looks. It's like the society is afraid of male sexuality!
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If you moderate this, then your children will be next.
It's not easy to fit "Anakin,becarefulnottoloseanylimbsandrequirebionic bodypartsbecausetheEmpirewillbeabletoturnyoutotheD arkSideoftheForcewhereyouwillbeforcedtoattemptthem urderofyoursonanddaughterbutdieahorribledeathatthe handsoftheEmperor" in one second. I wouldn't be too worried about losing content.
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I got headbutted by accident once, and it broke my nose! Definitely dangerous if someone does it intentionally multiple times.
If tits were wings it'd be flying around.
ET was made PG in Sweden because Spielberg made the adults look like morons. Go figure.
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No one would have cared, or even noticed, if the film board hadn't brought it up in the first place.
-Kasreyn
Kasreyn: Cheerfully playing the part of Devil's Advocate to hairtrigger
I'm sure someone posted it already and I just missed it but in case someone hasn't seen the 1 second being cut, it's there
I don't like soccer either. Ice hockey all the way baby. It's the only sport that's fast enough to keep me interested. I do also like female tennis but that's for a different reason.
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Contains sci-fi action, violence and peril
The key word there is violence.
And they're rating it PG... I mean LotR was a "PG, not suitable for under 8s" which was pretty ridiculous. If its a PG, its a PG, otherwise it should be a 12.
The film industry is putting increasing pressure on the censors to maximise their audience and thus increase their box office revenue!
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Wouldn't it depend on whether the fetus was in a transparant womb?
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
The British Board of Film Classification website
This is the ruling on AoC.
here the Guidlines for PG
And these the Guidlines for 12
"Some scenes may be unsuitable for those under 8"
You were expecting a sig?