Well, there are the mandrakemove isos which deserve the download and there is also the 64 bit version of the distro. And if one want to be able to install the distro on other people machines, since they don't have all broadband, you better arrive with the whole cds sets.
You could have asked for an http link to it. Granted, it used to take quite some times too to obtain it, but the new webmaster of the club seems quite responsive. The other problem is that not enough people go on becoming seeds after their download is finished. One of the moderator of the club became a seeder for one of the isos, and he was the only one besides the mdk seed.
Someone is paying for that bandwidth, right? I mean, I "share" my bandwidth and that ISP doesnt need to pay for this bandwidth. But what about my ISP? Doesnt it pay for it?
It just exclude the word xenophobic, xeno being foreigner, you just can't be called a "foreigner hater" when you show hate of your own group, or as it is the case here, a small part of it. And there wasnt much hate either, apart from the comments on the french politicians which I sincerely despise. Ant this despise is shared by the ones I was talking about since they really don't rely on them or wait for them to have a task done.
First, i'm french so there cant be anything xenophobic when I badmouth french people.
Second, it is a national hobby to badmouth our administration. It is considered very "french" to do so; only foreigners wouldnt. [The problem is that it is working better every year, so it's getting more and more difficult; for instance try to read the comments where I say that some services have been switched to linux for years. The ministry of culture being the first, and long before linux was hype].
Third, even if you don't consider the cultural part of badmouthing them, french administrations have dedicated themselves to the task to turn the most people possible insane. Badmouthing them is the only to actually survive them. [An american friend of mine tried to get his papers to work in France. He dropped the idea after one day. Every thing that I warned him about happened in 4 hours.]
Fourth, yes I also badmouthed the british as having their tongue stuck in the usa's ass. But that's not xenophobia, that's common sense.
How can they call this "terms of service" when they deny in it every garanty that it will function properly or that you might ask anything about any service? How can any of them (ToS) be said "reasonable"?
note that Blizzard Entertainment shall not have any liability for the loss of any Game Data for any reason whatsoever
H. You may not be able to access World of Warcraft whenever you want, and there may be extended periods of time where you cannot access World of Warcraft
Those are too vague to be reasonable, yet the ToS itself would be reasonable?
Linux has been being used for quite some years in various part of the french administration, but always in a quite silent way. Lately the socialist administration of Paris made a study to follow Munich, but since the study actually showed that they first would have had to grow balls in order to have the courage to do it, they finally decided to continue to talk about it and do nothing. Behavior which can be accurately described as "the french way of life". So it seems that only one of the 20 areas of Paris is doing a real switch (since they apparently had the only available pair of balls among the socialists), while the others will slowly change their park of machine, do a little linux danse whenever possible (which they were already doing - see 1st paragraph) and continue to give a little tongue job to microsoft once in a while in order to not infuriate our powerfull and friendly ally. (Behavior which can be accurately described as "the british way of life"). So this is how french life goes in french administrations: politics talks and do nothing, administration workers do the job and avoid at all cost to inform said politics about it.
From that sentence One of the best ways to demonstrate the power of klik's techiniques is with the Christmas present from probono, an OpenOffice.org cmg for version 1.9.65..
OpenOffice is one of those huge projects which come in preinstalled preconfigured and self sufficient package which have to be decompressed in one directory. So having a "klik" package is not a proof of technical achivement, as it would be trivial to have a, say, loki setup or even a script which untar the package and put the missing entry in PATH. No, give me a klik package of some kde or gnome program wich installs and works with every distro, aka fit nicely in every distro and rely on dynamic and present librairies. THAT would be a true demonstration.
They did hire a new webmaster in december and he is very responsive. He has been made modifications to the site on the fly right after a request on the forum and he is already working on a rehaul of the site. So all and all the situation is already improving on that front. He is also responsable for one of the last contracts that mdk won, which is an university research to (kinda) improve the way software are packaged and distributed (so i guess a (kinda) research to improve rpms). So we should get something out of that also.
Why? To attract attention on him? The article was interresting in itself, it didnt deserve that kind of tricks. He barely talk about cautiousness in ONE sentence in ONE paragraph in a 2 PAGES article! Nobody knows what's going to happen. It's certainly not inevitable that Firefox's market share will continue to increase. I think open-source advocates would do well to be relatively cautious and avoid making claims and predictions. He isnt even talking about gloating!!!
No, they won't, they're japanese robots. The italian robots, tho', will fall without anyone in a 1,5m radius. The argentinian robots will use their hands, and they will have 8 of them. The german robots will be be very fair... as long as they win the game, if they are loosing around 15 mns before the end, they will begin to break the other robots legs. The french robots will have so much cosmetics enhancements because of all the commercials they play in, that they will be barely able to run. The british team wont have a robot goalkeeper. The us robots will make everybody laugh but nobody will show it. Despite their advanced design (and the heavy armor of the goalkeeper) their programmation will be terrible. They wont get anything of the game and will err randomly on the field and will even fall when there isnt anybody in a 5 meters radius. Yet the referees will still continue to be really really nice to them since the fifa will still want the us market. As for Brasil, they won't have any robots but real players and will continue to win.
France telecom is not a typical exemple as it is a monopoly quite similar to microsoft at the french level, but directly owned by the government (51% of the shares and the board of directors is made of state men). So their amount of power AND their lack of independance make them quite different from a pharmaceutical company, to take your other exemple. Also they never bought wanadoo. They made it. Wanadoo is the name they gave to their internet division. It has never been independant but also it never played the isp games by the same rules than the others (for example, cable company were prevented to launch their business for years because they HAD to ask france telecom to install the wires in the city, and france telecom refused for years despite court orders until wanadoo was ready to launch their adsl offer). So taking that kind of company as an example isnt worth much. Would you take microsoft's behavior as an example of what every us IT companies do?
Echelon has been used to give unfair advantage to boeing too, in the form of sensible datas. Behavior which is not in the scope of the french government should he want to favor one of its company. So let's stop to pretend we believe there is one once of fairness behind those 2 governments. The only difference between those 2 is that France isnt powerfull enough to start oil wars, but barely able to enforce cacao peace. BTW, this kind of grants have been given to disney when they built their eurocrap, and to numerous japanese car companies that built factories in France. They are not targeted at favoring french companies but at protecting french level of employment.
you can waste 2 billions dollars on one console and have it said succesfull because it has one best selling title (which btw isnt innovative at all, being a rather dull fps) and have nintendo being shown as unsuccessfull because they base their profitable business on their conception of what games should be. This is a world which never ceases to amaze me.
Maybe I'm missing something You're missing the fact that he is a person and every other "influence" in your comment, Firefox, KDE, Gnome, are entities. And such articles writers don't understand that the community driving a project is more important than its leader(s), and as such tries to find the person that embodies all of them. And fail of course. And this is true to the rest of the persons they cite. What is really important tho' is that Mr Torvalds has shown every time he could that he perfectly knew that.
You could even go as far as to RTFA which has the title You forgot the True Slashdot Prime Directive: Don't RTFA. Ever. Or at least post before. And rant.
I didnt write that to flame the project, in fact I have been genuinely interrested in it enough to follow it since the beginning through kde-apps.org. Yet, there are many of those weather applet and audio controllers also. I just dont put them into the original list. You can have them in kicker, in whatever bar or widget or even menus, the fact that they appear in karamba dont make them more accessible. In fact they are just less movable. And no, i don't have any better idea either, so i was asking out of hope.
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I'd like to see microsoft try to "embrace and extend" those.
Well, there are the mandrakemove isos which deserve the download and there is also the 64 bit version of the distro.
And if one want to be able to install the distro on other people machines, since they don't have all broadband, you better arrive with the whole cds sets.
You could have asked for an http link to it. Granted, it used to take quite some times too to obtain it, but the new webmaster of the club seems quite responsive.
The other problem is that not enough people go on becoming seeds after their download is finished. One of the moderator of the club became a seeder for one of the isos, and he was the only one besides the mdk seed.
Someone is paying for that bandwidth, right?
I mean, I "share" my bandwidth and that ISP doesnt need to pay for this bandwidth. But what about my ISP? Doesnt it pay for it?
It just exclude the word xenophobic, xeno being foreigner, you just can't be called a "foreigner hater" when you show hate of your own group, or as it is the case here, a small part of it.
And there wasnt much hate either, apart from the comments on the french politicians which I sincerely despise. Ant this despise is shared by the ones I was talking about since they really don't rely on them or wait for them to have a task done.
Actually.
First, i'm french so there cant be anything xenophobic when I badmouth french people.
Second, it is a national hobby to badmouth our administration. It is considered very "french" to do so; only foreigners wouldnt. [The problem is that it is working better every year, so it's getting more and more difficult; for instance try to read the comments where I say that some services have been switched to linux for years. The ministry of culture being the first, and long before linux was hype].
Third, even if you don't consider the cultural part of badmouthing them, french administrations have dedicated themselves to the task to turn the most people possible insane. Badmouthing them is the only to actually survive them. [An american friend of mine tried to get his papers to work in France. He dropped the idea after one day. Every thing that I warned him about happened in 4 hours.]
Fourth, yes I also badmouthed the british as having their tongue stuck in the usa's ass. But that's not xenophobia, that's common sense.
Fifth, I fart in your general direction.
How can they call this "terms of service" when they deny in it every garanty that it will function properly or that you might ask anything about any service?
How can any of them (ToS) be said "reasonable"?
note that Blizzard Entertainment shall not have any liability for the loss of any Game Data for any reason whatsoever
H. You may not be able to access World of Warcraft whenever you want, and there may be extended periods of time where you cannot access World of Warcraft
Those are too vague to be reasonable, yet the ToS itself would be reasonable?
Linux has been being used for quite some years in various part of the french administration, but always in a quite silent way.
Lately the socialist administration of Paris made a study to follow Munich, but since the study actually showed that they first would have had to grow balls in order to have the courage to do it, they finally decided to continue to talk about it and do nothing. Behavior which can be accurately described as "the french way of life".
So it seems that only one of the 20 areas of Paris is doing a real switch (since they apparently had the only available pair of balls among the socialists), while the others will slowly change their park of machine, do a little linux danse whenever possible (which they were already doing - see 1st paragraph) and continue to give a little tongue job to microsoft once in a while in order to not infuriate our powerfull and friendly ally. (Behavior which can be accurately described as "the british way of life").
So this is how french life goes in french administrations: politics talks and do nothing, administration workers do the job and avoid at all cost to inform said politics about it.
They are not "considered part of", they ARE military.
Mod up the parent poster, as he was right, and remove moderation rights to the one who moderated him as a troll, thx.
From that sentence One of the best ways to demonstrate the power of klik's techiniques is with the Christmas present from probono, an OpenOffice.org cmg for version 1.9.65..
OpenOffice is one of those huge projects which come in preinstalled preconfigured and self sufficient package which have to be decompressed in one directory.
So having a "klik" package is not a proof of technical achivement, as it would be trivial to have a, say, loki setup or even a script which untar the package and put the missing entry in PATH.
No, give me a klik package of some kde or gnome program wich installs and works with every distro, aka fit nicely in every distro and rely on dynamic and present librairies. THAT would be a true demonstration.
They did hire a new webmaster in december and he is very responsive. He has been made modifications to the site on the fly right after a request on the forum and he is already working on a rehaul of the site.
So all and all the situation is already improving on that front.
He is also responsable for one of the last contracts that mdk won, which is an university research to (kinda) improve the way software are packaged and distributed (so i guess a (kinda) research to improve rpms). So we should get something out of that also.
Why? To attract attention on him? The article was interresting in itself, it didnt deserve that kind of tricks.
He barely talk about cautiousness in ONE sentence in ONE paragraph in a 2 PAGES article!
Nobody knows what's going to happen. It's certainly not inevitable that Firefox's market share will continue to increase. I think open-source advocates would do well to be relatively cautious and avoid making claims and predictions.
He isnt even talking about gloating!!!
No, they won't, they're japanese robots. ... as long as they win the game, if they are loosing around 15 mns before the end, they will begin to break the other robots legs.
The italian robots, tho', will fall without anyone in a 1,5m radius.
The argentinian robots will use their hands, and they will have 8 of them.
The german robots will be be very fair
The french robots will have so much cosmetics enhancements because of all the commercials they play in, that they will be barely able to run.
The british team wont have a robot goalkeeper.
The us robots will make everybody laugh but nobody will show it. Despite their advanced design (and the heavy armor of the goalkeeper) their programmation will be terrible. They wont get anything of the game and will err randomly on the field and will even fall when there isnt anybody in a 5 meters radius. Yet the referees will still continue to be really really nice to them since the fifa will still want the us market.
As for Brasil, they won't have any robots but real players and will continue to win.
France telecom is not a typical exemple as it is a monopoly quite similar to microsoft at the french level, but directly owned by the government (51% of the shares and the board of directors is made of state men).
So their amount of power AND their lack of independance make them quite different from a pharmaceutical company, to take your other exemple.
Also they never bought wanadoo. They made it. Wanadoo is the name they gave to their internet division. It has never been independant but also it never played the isp games by the same rules than the others (for example, cable company were prevented to launch their business for years because they HAD to ask france telecom to install the wires in the city, and france telecom refused for years despite court orders until wanadoo was ready to launch their adsl offer).
So taking that kind of company as an example isnt worth much. Would you take microsoft's behavior as an example of what every us IT companies do?
Echelon has been used to give unfair advantage to boeing too, in the form of sensible datas. Behavior which is not in the scope of the french government should he want to favor one of its company.
So let's stop to pretend we believe there is one once of fairness behind those 2 governments. The only difference between those 2 is that France isnt powerfull enough to start oil wars, but barely able to enforce cacao peace.
BTW, this kind of grants have been given to disney when they built their eurocrap, and to numerous japanese car companies that built factories in France. They are not targeted at favoring french companies but at protecting french level of employment.
you can waste 2 billions dollars on one console and have it said succesfull because it has one best selling title (which btw isnt innovative at all, being a rather dull fps) and have nintendo being shown as unsuccessfull because they base their profitable business on their conception of what games should be.
This is a world which never ceases to amaze me.
It bugged carmack to the point that he said it in one of his first interview after the release.
The press release on their site.
Maybe I'm missing something
You're missing the fact that he is a person and every other "influence" in your comment, Firefox, KDE, Gnome, are entities.
And such articles writers don't understand that the community driving a project is more important than its leader(s), and as such tries to find the person that embodies all of them. And fail of course.
And this is true to the rest of the persons they cite.
What is really important tho' is that Mr Torvalds has shown every time he could that he perfectly knew that.
A lot of this problems have for origin in my opinion that they design the game ofr consoles and consoles users also.
spam will be over when his prediction that the internet wont get popular comme into reality.
Basically, you're proving that switching completly to linux might get you a girl.
You could even go as far as to RTFA which has the title
You forgot the True Slashdot Prime Directive:
Don't RTFA. Ever. Or at least post before. And rant.
I didnt write that to flame the project, in fact I have been genuinely interrested in it enough to follow it since the beginning through kde-apps.org.
Yet, there are many of those weather applet and audio controllers also. I just dont put them into the original list. You can have them in kicker, in whatever bar or widget or even menus, the fact that they appear in karamba dont make them more accessible. In fact they are just less movable.
And no, i don't have any better idea either, so i was asking out of hope.