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Half-Life 2 Finally Activated

Thomas Scovell writes "After over half a decade of development, stolen source code debacle, a promised deadline that was missed by a year, and a feud between the developer and the publisher that is still in court, Half-Life 2 has finally started to activate for those who have purchased online via Steam online or who grabbed the boxed version at the retailers that let it slip early. Go play!" Reviews are available via Gamespot, Gamespy, HomeLAN Fed, and IGN.

736 comments

  1. No net connection by psergiu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So this game is unplayable if i have no internet connection ?

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    1. Re:No net connection by moon-monster · · Score: 0

      You don't have to get it over steam... You can buy it from a store if you like, with no connection required.

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    2. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You still can't play it without connecting to steam during the installation.

    3. Re:No net connection by RonnyJ · · Score: 5, Funny
      So this game is unplayable if i have no internet connection ?

      I'm not quite sure how you've got first post then ;)

    4. Re:No net connection by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do not underestimate the power of the RFC 1149. They need careful fine tuning, but if done right, the results are mind boggling. :-)

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    5. Re:No net connection by hexMonkey · · Score: 1, Informative

      If you look carefully, most retailers have made sure the "Internet Required" is in the Minimum Specs

    6. Re:No net connection by 222 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The point is that millions of gamers will be left in the cold when they realize the game they just bought is a painful paperweight.
      Remember, not *everyone* gets online.

    7. Re:No net connection by orta · · Score: 3, Informative

      The point is that millions of gamers will be left in the cold when they realize the game they just bought is a painful paperweight. Which is exactly how I feel, and I'm sure many others do around the globe at University networks too strict to allow Steam to update. I personally can't believe the lack of proxy options on Steam so we could have at least activated the freakin' game!

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    8. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ha ha ha "millions". is doomsaying your profession, or just a hobby?

      (end sarcasm)
      if they have hardware up to date enough to play hl2, they probably have managed to buy a modem by now

    9. Re:No net connection by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Well, they better get with the 90's then, shouldn't they...

      There is a totally unsubstantiated, unconfirmed roumer that Valve might release a "no internet necessary" version for those without network connections in a few months once things have died-down a bit.

      But since it can authorize pretty quickly on even a dialup, I don't think it's that much of an issue. If Valve wanted to be really sporting, they'd have a 1-800 number you could dial with your modem to authorize games that you purchase in the store (no preloading, just an authorize-only server).

      N.

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    10. Re:No net connection by orta · · Score: 0

      okay, thousands then :P Regardless, personally I can't use a modem as our phone lines don't work like normal lines because they are campus based and it would probably cost the same as buying HL2 itself to connect to the net via a modem...

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    11. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Great. Next time you feel like spending money, just give it to me. I can give you a packaged AOL-CD so you feel that you got something in return, if you like.

      Supid USians with too much money. Fuck you all. GWBDIDWTCOMG

    12. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      omg look waht the japper
      sez haha lol

    13. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kinda choppy.. thanks for posting though, nice for those of us who can't play yet.

    14. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice, you know, windows sounds and unsynched audio.

    15. Re:No net connection by SpinyManiac · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not here.
      I wonder if the activation is US only. I've seen it before...

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    16. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So does it only need to connect to Steam when installing? Because I'll be pissed if I am travelling with my laptop and can't play the game until I can find a free WiFi signal.

    17. Re:No net connection by Talez · · Score: 1, Funny

      I call shenanigans! The latency using an RFC 1149 compliant transmission method would be far too great to achieve a first post.

    18. Re:No net connection by Sj0 · · Score: 0, Troll

      DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

      (the reason I'm using so many caps is because I AM yelling, you insufferable lameness filter! Go away!)

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    19. Re:No net connection by RollingThunder · · Score: 0, Troll

      Millions of gamers not online?

      What an odd timewarp back to 1992 you're in.

    20. Re:No net connection by T'hain+Esh+Kelch · · Score: 0

      You know, /.-pidgeons are REAL snappy(TM) these days... ;)

    21. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, sorry about that -- it's my first try and I can't hear.

    22. Re:No net connection by the+real+darkskye · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You'd buy a game with out first reading the customer reviews

      Just because its looks like a fish and moves like a fish doesn't mean it can't steer like a cow.

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    23. Re:No net connection by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Are Toll Free calls limited to continental callers?

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    24. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I beat it already, that's why I've started HL2.

    25. Re:No net connection by moonbender · · Score: 0

      So does it only need to connect to Steam when installing?

      Essentially, yes. You don't have to be connected to the net while playing it single player.

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    26. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I fixed the audio (sync, not the windows sounds) on my 2nd video, but i deleted the source for the 1st video.

    27. Re:No net connection by Builder · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, what a 1st world country centric view you have. Many people I know have PC's at home, but only have Internet access from the office. That is how they post to /. :)

      Even dialup is still VERY expensive in a lot of countries when you factor in ISP costs, minimum term contracts and metered phone calls. And believe it or not, millions of gamers live in these countries. So yeah, millions of gamers out in the cold sounds about right :)

    28. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dial up is too expensive, but they can afford cutting edge hardware and a $50 game?

    29. Re:No net connection by KronicD · · Score: 1

      Yes.

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    30. Re:No net connection by BigTunaCan · · Score: 0

      You have to realize how internet is charged in a lot of other countries. There isn't any $20 a month unlimited access equivalent to the USA. Many of these countries still charge by the bandwidth so it is so much per megabyte. I'm from the US and I even know this from my friends overseas. The few that are well enough off to afford a home connection still only have it on as little as possible because it gets extremely expensive to actually use the internet.

    31. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if they've got the hardware and bought the game, I'm sure they'll spring for a few minutes online in order to authenticate.

    32. Re:No net connection by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1

      There are ways around this with callback services. My dad used to have to dial US 800 numbers all the time from abroad for work purposes.

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    33. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The box lists an Internet Connection is required. You can also play in offline mode once you activate the game. So in reality you only need a 30 second internet connection to activate, then you can play it all you want on that system.

    34. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it does not authorize very quickly at all - it took me 15 minutes over an ADSL connection.

    35. Re:No net connection by The+Slient+Progenito · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think he would have been in the same position as me - Being in an university campus with an http proxy. I can access/download from the web at great speed, but yet I discovered today that I was not able to run Half Life 2 because my "internet connection" does not support steam. I am just wondering if any of you fellow university student has found a way past the HTTP proxy?

    36. Re:No net connection by gbronzer · · Score: 1

      My biggest problem isn't so much activation, but the fact that you're basically renting the software. If in 20 years I want to let my kid play one of the greatest games ever, load up the CDs, and suddenly discover I've got coasters because Valve no longer exists after the Team Fortress 4 debacle. That just sucks. You're basically renting the game for the life of the Auth servers, once they go down nobody gets to play anymore.

    37. Re:No net connection by waynelorentz · · Score: 1

      Actually, not anymore.
      You can order an international 800 number these days.
      They've been around at least for a couple of years. A lot of the large hotel chains have them.

    38. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAHAH HE SAID USians!!!!1111

    39. Re:No net connection by EvilAlien · · Score: 1

      The game needs to authenticate against the Valve's Steam network, after that Internet access is not required. I suspect that people with no access to Internet whatsoever (i.e., not through friends, family, public access, free dialup, etc) are not people who are going to be interested in the game, nor are there enough of those throwbacks to justify not requiring online validation to reduce piracy costs.

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    40. Re:No net connection by tepples · · Score: 1

      Some libraries permit web surfing but not Half-Life 2 installation.

    41. Re:No net connection by tepples · · Score: 1

      So in reality you only need a 30 second internet connection to activate, then you can play it all you want on that system.

      Problem is that with most ISPs' plans, you buy the first 30 seconds of a month for $20 and get the other 2591970 seconds free. And for those people who browse Slashdot and Amazon at the local public library, how do you think library staff would respond to people who cart in their PC to active Half-Life 2?

      Or does VUG plan to introduce a telephone activation scheme similar to that of Windows XP, with both a toll-free number for domestic calls and a toll number for international calls?

    42. Re:No net connection by tepples · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they'll spring for a few minutes online in order to authenticate.

      Unless it's $100 for the first "few minutes online" and the rest of 3 months free, right?

    43. Re:No net connection by c1one · · Score: 1

      You DO have to be connected as the "Offline" mode doesn't work. I know as I have tried it. I want to play the storyline mode and I don't want to keep my "gaming" computer online. This is such a hassle for someone who actually purchases games and this is my REWARD. There is also the issue of downloading the initial 20MB to update steam and the install. Then the registration and then the update to the game which was another 20MB, none of these are options either, you must update to play. Then those updates don't even allow "Offline" mode to work. This is all unacceptable after so many delays. The game should work properly and does not. VALVe has lost another paying customer.
      c1one

    44. Re:No net connection by Malawar · · Score: 0

      Got a SOCKS proxy? Try SocksCap Don't have a SOCKS proxy? Create one with ssh -D :)

    45. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also unplayable if you have no video card. How is this different?

      Get over it.

    46. Re:No net connection by badmammajamma · · Score: 1

      lol...so I guess they never activated Windows either?

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    47. Re:No net connection by cha0t1c · · Score: 1

      Thanks jaxdahl!

    48. Re:No net connection by muzthe42nd · · Score: 0

      It's the same in the UK. Hadn't planned on buying it anyway, but if I did want HL2, it wouldn't work with my network. Bloody thing...

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    49. Re:No net connection by Donjo · · Score: 1

      unless they did it by phone of course...

    50. Re:No net connection by Tantrum420 · · Score: 1

      I know that this isn't the ideal solution, but for those of you that just want to play single player....

      Can't you just use dial-in to get it activated?

      Does it push a lot of data across the network, even if just installing from a disc?

      I got the Steam Version and it took almost 20 minutes to unlock on my DSL. Not sure if it was just because it was busy last night or if it was downloading a bunch of new data.

      my $0.05 (keep the change),
      T

    51. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many of these same people can't afford the hardware to run HL2 anyways.

    52. Re:No net connection by gweedoz · · Score: 1

      Considering that they are deploying a game to millions of users simultaneously, in an entirely new way, with all newly developed technology... I think a few hiccups are to be expected.

      If you are so tender about such things, you really should stop using computers and switch to crotchet.

    53. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is just horseshit. If they can't afford dialup, then they can't afford a 60 dollar game. If they pirated the game then tuff beans. Your argument is rediculous.

    54. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If they can't afford dialup, then they can't afford a 60 dollar game.

      Those who don't have land line phone, only cellular (that's increasingly common in Europe), may not bother getting a 3G mobile to use as a modem. They are still a bit pricey. Quite a few get their Internet fix in their office.

    55. Re:No net connection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gee, sucks to be you.

    56. Re:No net connection by SuSEboy · · Score: 1

      SO what you're saying is, these really, really poor people who cannot afford internet access have enough money to buy a legal copy of HL2?

    57. Re:No net connection by The+Slient+Progenito · · Score: 1

      How do I go about creating an Sock proxy with ssh? I would be extremely grateful for any instruction, since I have been googling without success :(

    58. Re:No net connection by Matt_Joyce · · Score: 1


      Millions ?
      pffft, who cares.

      thay have a shit hot computer (can't play otherwise) but no net connection ? ...well, HL2 can be another reason to get connected. luddites.

    59. Re:No net connection by SpinyManiac · · Score: 1

      Well, no. I wouldn't and I haven't.
      Yeah, I should have looked, but this is Slashdot...

      Obviously Amazon aren't one of the most retailers hexMonkey mentioned.

      I'll probably buy it anyway, and get the crack for later.

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    60. Re:No net connection by realdpk · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but it is unplayable if Valve's servers are down. Was great fun spending 4 hours yesterday periodically trying to register the software again and again.

    61. Re:No net connection by sharok · · Score: 1

      Not true. If your box has an active network connection, then you HAVE to have an active Internet connection to start the game again (but not to play).

    62. Re:No net connection by sharok · · Score: 1

      So just because you can afford something means that you have it ?
      I could afford an ADSL connection years before I got it. Why ? Because there wasn't any phone company to give it to me.
      That has nothing to do with the amount of time and money I am willing to put into getting good PC components.

      Your view of the world is ridiculous.

    63. Re:No net connection by sharok · · Score: 1

      Considering the scope of the technology, and the amount of innovation necessary, and the number of projected customers, Valve could have easily avoided burdening themselves with another connection requirement.

      And there is no reason to be tender when you pay good money for the right to play a game, only to find out that you still have to ask permission when you want to start it.

    64. Re:No net connection by Builder · · Score: 1

      No, I'm saying that for a lot of people, their monthly internet costs are about the same as the repayments on a dealer approved second hand car (thing 18 month old, low milage here).

      If you had to choose between a decent car, and an Internet connection, which would you buy ?

      Stop assuming that the whole world is just like the little rock you live under!

  2. timezone by Bog+Standard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was wondering if this was going to be 12.00 AM GMT, EST or PST. Looks like it was PST.

    1. Re:timezone by citizenc · · Score: 1

      PST. Where Valve is. :)

    2. Re:timezone by DigitumDei · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Shit shit shit shit!!!!

      6 more hours at work before I can get home. This is going to be the slowest day ever...

    3. Re:timezone by obii · · Score: 1

      Go home, tell them you are sick ;)

    4. Re:timezone by DigitumDei · · Score: 4, Funny

      The problem with working at an IT company, is all the managers know HL2 just got released.

      Time to take some leave I think. :)

    5. Re:timezone by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1, Funny

      6 more hours at work before I can get home. This is going to be the slowest day ever...

      I'm four hundred miles and over a week away from my (obsolete) PC, you insensitive clod!

      Trust me to have to have to go on a business trip just before HL2 was released... :-)

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    6. Re:timezone by TCM · · Score: 1

      all the managers know HL2 just got released.

      So noone is there except you because they all play HL2.

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    7. Re:timezone by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Funny


      tell 'em you shit your pants, no-one ever wants to check that one.

      sadly I can verify that

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    8. Re:timezone by DigitumDei · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I feel better now. ;)

    9. Re:timezone by omicronish · · Score: 4, Funny

      6 more hours at work before I can get home. This is going to be the slowest day ever...

      Dude, 6 hours is nothing. I accidentally marked the wrong date on my calendar for Half-Life release, and spent Sunday afternoon anticipating it. Midnight came and I was ready to burst, but then I was wondering why it wasn't activated. Then I noticed I was off by 24 hours ;(

    10. Re:timezone by Sj0 · · Score: 2

      If you want to feel better, how about this:

      For the next 2 years I'm trapped on a Celeron 1.33Ghz with a Cyberblade XP al1, an integrated video chipset so slow it chokes on Quake 3!

      so no UT2k3, Doom 3, or HL2 for me!

      The upside is that by the time I'm done, even S3 and Trident will be making cards to play doom 3, so I'll be able to put together a sweet Doom 3 machine for the price of a ham sandwich! w00t!

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    11. Re:timezone by dfj225 · · Score: 1

      ahhhhhhhh....I just got to work. 8 hours and counting. We should get paid vacation days for large game releases :) My productivity for today will be about 0.

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    12. Re:timezone by Moonshadow · · Score: 1

      Half Life 2 came out at 1 AM Arizona time this morning.

      Also this morning, I noticed my roommate snoring loudly as I left for work. He normally leaves an hour before me.

      I woke him up, asked if he were going to work today. He replied that he was not feeling well.

      I do not believe these two facts to be a coincidence.

    13. Re:timezone by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      tell 'em you shit your pants, no-one ever wants to check that one.

      You insensitive clod, I did just shit my pants... playing HL2!

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    14. Re:timezone by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 1

      Wow... I forgot I updated my signature. Apropos.

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    15. Re:timezone by Hinhule · · Score: 0

      You think 24 hours is bad?

      I marked september 30, 20003.. I have been like a crackaddict trying to get a fix with cigarettes while a bunch of annoying kids are bugging me. Or if you like, I have been playing Counter-Strike.

    16. Re:timezone by Hinhule · · Score: 0

      and then I noticed my typo, suddenly a year of frustration turned into a nice surprise with the game coming 17999 years ahead of plan.

    17. Re:timezone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe that you meant to say "shat ye old pants"

    18. Re:timezone by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      Your belief system contains errors.

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    19. Re:timezone by bafu · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the benefits of CST.

  3. yay halflife2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I might buy it this time

  4. well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Duke Nukem Forever will be better !!

    ahem...

    1. Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the "ahem" means I wasn't serious...

      tell me the truth, are admins bots ?

      (dunno if it's a correct english sentence btw)

    2. Re:well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of the admins are.. yes.

  5. Steam is taking a pounding.... by ttlgDaveh · · Score: 1, Informative

    It is taking an absolute age to unlock the game files.
    Released: November 16th - Playable: November 21st.

    1. Re:Steam is taking a pounding.... by lejordet · · Score: 1

      Mine unlocked in about 5-10 minutes, I think...but I can't try it until I get home from work :(

      (Still fun to check it via VPN to my home computer)

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    2. Re:Steam is taking a pounding.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5-10 minutes? Heh
      Installing here at work.. 90 machines
      we're *not* using the steam license server, so we have to dl the last files on each computer.. first couple of machines were no problem.. 10 - 15 seconds. Looking at how far we've come now though, some machines are taking 30 - 40 minutes to grab the same files.

      Unlocking the game files takes its sweet time too
      oh well

    3. Re:Steam is taking a pounding.... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 1

      Took me about 7 minutes.. early bird catches the worm and all that ;)

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    4. Re:Steam is taking a pounding.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Installing here at work.. 90 machines

      Installing at work.. on 90 machines? Damn where the hell do you work? I can see maybe if you are working at a Gaming Cafe or something.. but otherwise I want to get a job where you work at.. that sounds like fun.

    5. Re:Steam is taking a pounding.... by TomServo · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm pretty certain, especially given the complete lack of activity on my Steam Monitor during the unlocking process, that once the unlock starts, it's not going over the network. It's just the process of decrypting the game files, and that's wholly processor dependent. I literally saw no traffic between my computer and Steam during the unlock process, but I had a hell of a lot of hard drive activity.

    6. Re:Steam is taking a pounding.... by Sj0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      My mind couldn't comprehend installing HL2 on 90 machines, so I read it as "90 minutes" not once, but three times.

      Thanks a freaking lot for shattering my puny human psyche! :P

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  6. Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by d2_m_viant · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeeeeeehaaaaaa!

    So much for the rest of this college semester. Between this and Halo2, I'll be lucky if I even come in contact with a female during the next 3 months...

    1. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by thatJoshGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're posting to Slashdot dude, like there was a chance of that happening anyway.

    2. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Kwaichang · · Score: 5, Funny

      So much for the rest of this college semester. Between this and Halo2, I'll be lucky if I even come in contact with a female during the next 3 months... Good to see you have your priorities straight.

    3. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 1, Funny
      Between this and Halo2, I'll be lucky if I even come in contact with a female during the next 3 months...
      No worries, at least you'll be coming in contact with plenty of terrorists. That alone will get you on the network news, which in turn will get you plenty of chicks! Vive la guerre!
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    4. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      If your average looking, clean room, beer, halo2, and a co-ed dorm, it is possible to get a woman to come over.

      Getting chicks isnt as hard as you think, hell, Most girls want is just as bad. The main problem is who your hanging around with.

      DDR man, DDR gets the chicks.

    5. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Suuurreee, the games are the reason.....

    6. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by patonw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Does cortana count? I mean, there's no way she can put out but check out the curves on that hologram!

    7. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by DJPenguin · · Score: 2, Funny
      DDR man, DDR gets the chicks.


      Damn and to think I just bought a set of RIMMs!

    8. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drinks, drugs and riches?

    9. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No females? So im not good enough for ya?

      -Alyx

    10. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also acting like a man instead of sucking up with compliments/stuttering/silence helps too. In all seriousness, www.doubleyourdating.com should be required reading for nerds who can't get laid. Good stuff. You can even find his stuff on some p2p networks...not that I'm advocating that kind of thing.

    11. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Sj0 · · Score: 4, Funny


      DDR man, DDR gets the chicks.


      Yeah, but then their mother goes "What are you doing to my 9 year old daughter!" and it's a whole mess...

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    12. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by imr · · Score: 1

      Basically, you're proving that switching completly to linux might get you a girl.

    13. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by C0rinthian · · Score: 1
      DDR man, DDR gets the chicks.
      Theres so much truth to this, it's scary. Good thing is, DDR makes you lose weight too. It definitely reminded me how out of shape I am...
    14. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so my girlfriend asked me if i was a pedophile and i told her, thats an awefully big word for an 11 year old.

    15. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 1

      That alone will get you on the network news, which in turn will get you plenty of chicks!

      Hmm... when is that mod coming out?

    16. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Meatwad gets the honeys G

    17. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by Kadmium · · Score: 1

      There's a bad rim-jobbing joke in there but I just don't have the inclination to search it out.

    18. Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Hey now! None of that! What is this, bash.org?

  7. Re:Hello!? by deconvolution · · Score: 1

    they are busy on ordering

  8. Valve Deserves an Appaluse by citizenc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've seen a number of reviews say that Half-Life 2 is the best FPS of all time. After playing it even for only the hour that I have (I have a Social Psychology mid-term tomorrow morning ;), I can tell you that it is, hands down.

    I have to commend Valve for doing it right. They didn't rush. They didn't over-hype. They didn't fuck it up. =)

    I believe Valve deserves a round of applause. Half-Life 2 is a masterpiece.

    *Applause*

    1. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by citizenc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed. I remember seeing the first screenshots of Half-Life in PC Gamer (it was a guy in green, in a checkered hallway, if memory serves), and thinking "wow, that looks like Quake".

      Releasing Half-Life: Source was a pretty kick-ass idea as well -- I know a lot of people who have never PLAYED Half-Life, but given that the graphics were rather dated by today's standards, I don't think I could get them to pay attention. Now I can. =)

    2. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Coryoth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The truly amazing part is that unlike id, who up until (and some would argue, including) Doom 3 simply made an engine and slapped some quick levels together to show it off

      Anyone who thinks the levels in Doom 3 were "slapped together" to show off the engine should spend a little time designing levels. The general design, lighting, sound design (which was surprisngly important for some levels), and all around attention to detail in Doom 3 was very impressive. Whether you were a fan of the gameplay or not, you would be a fool to claim the levels were "thrown together".

      Quake I... well, you might have an argument there. Some truly excellent levels, some appalling levels, and a surprising hodge podge of inconsistent design - that speaks of a certain amount of "slapped together".

      Jedidiah.

    3. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to agree, this game is absolutely stunning... been playing it for just under 2 hours now and I am amazed :-D Well worth the wait, good job Valve!

      HL2 is gonna take some beating...

    4. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by bani · · Score: 1

      the game was a tech demo of the doom3 engine, but the they most certainly did not "slap some quick levels together to show it off". the levels are huge and very complex and if you take the time to examine them with noclip, you'll realize it took a long time to make them.

    5. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Zorilla · · Score: 4, Funny

      Id Software took great pride with their maps. Each black pixel was meticulously rendered by hand.

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    6. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Bega · · Score: 2, Funny
      They didn't over-hype.
      Who made the people then believe it's the best thing since orange-mango juice?

      In the meanwhile this -might- provide slight entertainment while waiting for Duke Nukem Forever. Luckily they haven't hyped it.
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    7. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Traa · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Anyone who thinks the levels in Doom 3 were "slapped together" to show off the engine should spend a little time designing levels.

      I played and finished Doom 3. I just played 3 hours off half-life2 and I can tell you that when you compare the two you too might get that feeling that the levels in Doom3 where "slapped together". As far as I am concerned, the Doom3 engine and every other game engine just became obsoleet. Yes hl2 is that good.

      back to the game, I don't have to show up for work for at least another 5 hours! Muhaha...

    8. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by shamilton · · Score: 1

      You gotta be kidding. It's still just run-and-gun, which Doom 3 did far better. The supposed interactive environment breakthrough consists of, for example, placing objects on a lever in order to form a ramp. You don't even have to search for the objects, they're right there. Soooo disappointed.

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    9. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by goatan · · Score: 1
      I played and finished Doom 3. I just played 3 hours off half-life2 and I can tell you that when you compare the two you too might get that feeling that the levels in Doom3 where "slapped together". As far as I am concerned, the Doom3 engine and every other game engine just became obsoleet. Yes hl2 is that good.

      But when will the mods come out. the best thng about Half life was Day of defeat and counterstrike, the single player was boring on HL.

      Doom 3 made me feel dirty playing it to much evil, no FPS has made me have emotions full stop let alone feeling like i was slowley being possesd.

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    10. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Thaelon · · Score: 1

      Yet another person who has taken the bait. Stop thinking "pretty" makes the game people. Games are supposed to be FUN above all, right? I imagine Doom III was beautiful on a machine that can run it at a reasonable framerate, but despite that I just simply didn't find it much fun so I uninstalled it and have no intention buying it, ever.

      That said, I saw a demo vid of HL2 yesterday and I'm going to go buy it today. Why? It was pretty, yes, but I GET TO PLAY WITH A GRAVITY GUN!

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    11. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by BigAl_nz · · Score: 1

      It was pretty, yes, but I GET TO PLAY WITH A GRAVITY GUN!

      Alyx - "Though you can call it the zero-point energy manipulator if you really want to."

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    12. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by G-funk · · Score: 1

      Anyone out there got a report on how it runs on an old Gf4 ti4400 w/128mb? I've got plenty of cpu/ram (2.8ghz/1280mb), just don't feel like upgrading my video card. SHould I give hl2 a miss?

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    13. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Schnapple · · Score: 1
      Quake I... well, you might have an argument there. Some truly excellent levels, some appalling levels, and a surprising hodge podge of inconsistent design - that speaks of a certain amount of "slapped together".
      I don't recall who said it (if it was someone formerly of id or if it was a reporter) but essentially, Quake was an example of what happens when you change directions very late into a project. They had a more ambitious design in mind but they got scared at the last minute and scrapped it for the "DOOM with better graphics" feel. DOOM's entire development took a year, it was eighteen months into Quake's engine development before they changed directions. This why there's a level in a space dungeon, a level in a medieval castle, etc. There's no plot or consistency, etc. Still, fun game and killer deathmatch.

      Required reading: Masters of Doom

      Also, it's fun to post about id on Slashdot, knowing Carmack himself might show up and beat you over the head with a mackrel.

    14. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by eric_brissette · · Score: 1

      You want to search for them? I would be dissapointed if Half-Life 2 was like Myst with a "blow shit up" addon.

    15. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by eddy · · Score: 1

      >Each black pixel was meticulously rendered by hand

      .. in all shades of black!

      (Just tried HL2. I really don't like the beginning part (trainyard)... Cheap "adrenaline music" and getting shot at while trying to navigate a maze.... sheesh.

      This is the big test. Will I manage to get through this so that I can, hopefully, enjoy the rest of the game.

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    16. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Hatta · · Score: 1

      I have to commend Valve for doing it right. They didn't rush. They didn't over-hype. They didn't fuck it up. =)

      Sounds great. I can't wait until the linux port comes out. Oh yeah, there is no linux port. Sorry Valve, you're not getting my money.

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    17. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by CausticPuppy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Anyone who thinks the levels in Doom 3 were "slapped together" to show off the engine should spend a little time designing levels.

      I agree. id meticulously designed one map, and then used it for the first 20 levels of the game.

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    18. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Neoncow · · Score: 1

      Like the guy who manufactures Frownies?

    19. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by opeuga · · Score: 0, Informative

      The steampowered.com forums should tell you how all different flavors of setups will run the game. I checked there first for my setup (2.8 Ghz P4, 9800 Pro 128 MB VRAM, 640 MB RAM) and found I could run it with no problem. Hope this helps.

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    20. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      Quake 1 wrote the book on mapping, is it any surprise there were problems?

      When it comes to deathmatch though DM2,DM3,Dm4,DM5,DM6 E1m2? All great and many more were also excellent.

      The singal player was in the generation of find the key, but there were also scripted sequences, the action was simply to fast to appreciate them, like the part where you go up the elevator and get attacked by the two evicerators? Awsome, and the part where you get attacked from both sides by the two little death knights also cool.

    21. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Nosf3ratu · · Score: 3, Funny

      "obsoleet"(n): Stop reading my post. I am a retard. Synonyms: lolz, d00d, and OMGWTFBBQ.

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    22. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by antiMStroll · · Score: 1

      Impressive yes, but it still pales next to something like Far Cry. Cuting edge gameplay left the "world of tunnels with things dropping from the ceiling" behind.

    23. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Bombcar · · Score: 1

      Zero point energy! I kept the best for myself, of course.

    24. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Ignignot · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one that is disgusted by the reviews of halflife 2? Yes, I've played the game and it is fantastic. But the reviews intentionally gloss over the shortcomings of the game (like the missing multiplayer version of the single player game!!!!) and drop praise on it like sprinkles on a sundae. The reviews say stupid shit like "you can almost see the pores on people's skins, and the life force behind their eyes if you use a little imagination" - IGN.

      What happened to criticism? What happened to not being a whore for both Valve and the hordes of fanboys that just want to hear how good it is? I am very impressed with the game, but doesn't this sound like the game review rags are just telling people what they want to hear? That isn't review, that's trash.

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    25. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Tackhead · · Score: 1
      > Who made the people then believe it's the best thing since orange-mango juice?

      Who's hyping anything? HL2 is better than sex.

      (And yes, I've had sex. In meatspace. With a female. A human female. But my PC was also in the room, and I was able to get some coding done after she fell asleep, so I don't have to turn in my geek card just yet.)

      Now if you'll pardon me, I've got to try some of this orange-mango juice of which you speak. (This is shaping up to be a great week!)

    26. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1

      I'm sure with the hundreds of millions they will make off this, they will really miss your $50.

    27. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by LurkerXXX · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I dont' know that every other game engine just became obsolete...

      Doom III seemed to have much better texturing, lighting, and environmental effects.

      HL2 runs tons better on old hardware and has better physics. (much better storyline too, at least so far, 3 hours in, but we are talking game engines here)

      I'm having a lot more fun playing HL2, but as far as game engines, I think the DOOM3 one will do just fine when the average spec of machines is up a bit. And if they can work on the physics. It looked a lot 'prettier' to me, but HL2 is more fun to play.

    28. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by GnomeAttic · · Score: 1

      The truly amazing part is that unlike id, who up until (and some would argue, including) Doom 3 simply made an engine and slapped some quick levels together to show it off

      Anyone who thinks the levels in Doom 3 were "slapped together"...


      He said "up until", I believe he meant that Doom 3 was the first game not to have levels slapped together.

      YA JACKASSES!

    29. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      Oh, you spoilt it for me, I'm only on alpha-labs 98.

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    30. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by cancrman · · Score: 1

      I was running a GF4 Ti4200 64mb with no problem. Hell, that card ran Doom 3 with no problem. You won't get all the fancy-fancy eye candy, but you will get to play the game. You'll also have the bonus of saving a couple of hundred bucks.

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    31. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Honig+the+Apothecary · · Score: 1

      um. They have multiplayer in CounterStrike:source. Soon they will have Day of Defeat:Source. HL2 is a you aganst the universe kind of deal, multiplayer co-op mode just would not fit the game. I'm sure somebody will come out with a multiplayer with the Gravity gun and and all the other gizmos soon. But Half-Life 2 is a single player only game, sorry. Multiplayer would be a hinderance not an advantage for this game.

    32. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If you think that a FPS is better than sex you are not fucking correctly.

    33. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, *thank* Valve for requiring authentication for the retail games just to play single player!

      Lets hear it for not owning your legally purchased software! Maybe they should go the online RPG route and require us to shell out $30.00 a month to keep the $50.00 retail bought game's single player activated!!

      *Applause* *Applause* *Applause*

    34. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by shamilton · · Score: 1

      Well, in Quake II, the "find a set of keys" puzzles at least distributed the keys around a level. In HL2, it's like having a lock and the keys sitting around it. Real challenging.

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    35. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by @madeus · · Score: 1

      Anyone who thinks the levels in Doom 3 were "slapped together" to show off the engine should spend a little time designing levels. The general design, lighting, sound design (which was surprisngly important for some levels), and all around attention to detail in Doom 3 was very impressive. Whether you were a fan of the gameplay or not, you would be a fool to claim the levels were "thrown together".

      The maps were superbly well done. Great texture work and lighting. It's the most impressive map design I've ever seen.

      I do agree however that the actual in game levels did feel very "slapped together". Monster placement was appaling, monsters frequently spawned right in front of me, without any animation. The triggers were obvious and failed to immerse me. I also felt weapons and health placement was poor and offered no real challange, with powerful weapons being given far too early on (I found I either took heavy damage and died, or none).

      Poor item placement and poor monster placement (and spawning) together with a lack luster nad obviously trigger based system does not make for good level design in my view because they are integral to the experience.

      (And I think that's true, putting aside the gameplay).

    36. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Er, every review I've seen criticizes the game for not having a HL2 themed MP. Most even say that that is what keeps them from giving it 100%s. What are you smoking?

    37. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      You've got to be kidding. The levels and variety and layout and heck the pacing and planning that goes into all the different gun battles and encounters by far blows Doom3 away, easily. I beame bored with repetative gameplay of Doom3 Reeeeeal fast. HL2 makes sure to build on every encounter: they slowly introduce newer gameplay elements and then combine them into new challenges and events (instead of moving room to room like in Doom3, you move from event to event). The put the ongoing story into the actual game instead of thowaway "the locker code is 345 and also I'm a scientist, hee hee!" PDAs. The weapons are more varied and interesting and even sound better. The enemies are far more creative and neato, and the environment is way more interactive. And that's not even talking about the absolutely awe inspiring Strider battle portion of the game, which is just godly.

    38. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Doom3 definately takes the detail/shadowing cake at least in terms of bumpy goodness. Unfortunately, that's not all there is to engine beauty. HL2 has way better environmental effects. The texturing, diversity of environments and art design are tons better. And while the lighting is far cheaper in terms of real time shadows, the shadows ain't half bad for what they need to do, and the way light (as opposed to shadow) LOOKS in the game is just fantastic: it gleams off characters and objects, sublty shades everything dynamically, and so on. The stock characters in HL2 aren't as well developed as the Doom3 ones (the main characters are far more detailed than the average citizen), but they are creepily alive, and their eyes and features are amazing.

    39. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      best thing since orange-mango juice?


      That's just rong...
    40. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1
      I agree with you that the diversity of environments and art design are much better in HL2, but those have nothing to do with the engine. Those are the level designers and artists at work.

      I think HL2 is a better game than DOOM3, but except for physics, I think DOOM3 is the better game engine.

      These game engines will be used again and again for other games coming out in the next 4 years or so (till Valve and ID make their next generation of engines).

      As far as environmental effects, I thought water, steam, heat shimmer, etc, all looked better in DOOM3 than in HL2. The HL2 level designers and artists just made much better use of what their more limited engine could do to make it more enjoyable.

    41. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Ignignot · · Score: 1

      Most even say that that is what keeps them from giving it 100%s

      They all give it 9.7/10 or 97% - oh what a steep punishment for completely disregarding a big portion of the game experience! Yes, CS:S is an ok substitute, but there is no reason they couldn't have made a deathmatch also. 100% is a perfect game. How can you say that a game has a truly engrossing storyline when your character has no control over it (or for that matter, any real interaction because YOU CAN'T TALK)? You're on rails the entire game, and the only way off is to die. The music could be better, the jumping puzzles are annoying. All of these things missing from the game only results in 3% reduction in total score? Please! Tell me that's not a bunch of crap. If I were reviewing it, it would get a 90%. That's because the gameplay in single player is very good and CS:S makes up for some of the multiplayer deficiency. I doubt I would review another FPS as 90% or above this year.

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    42. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by adagioforstrings · · Score: 1

      No no, I think he was trying to say 'obsol33t' as in:
      "Doom 3 was once l33t, it has been usurped by HL2, now it is obsol33t."

    43. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      It's a shooter, not an RPG: it's purpose is to push you through a storyline with lots of "event" combat (which Valve is great at pacing: they keep introducing a new element at each juncture, then combining them to build up more and more intense situations). You don't like the music, others do, no points off there just for your own opinion. And the jumping puzzles aren't either all that common or as frustrating, especially since they mostly now involve solving physics problems to avoid having to jump perfectly anyway.

    44. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      You honestly thought WATER looked better in Doom3? How can you be serious? Doom3's engine is very limited: there's just no way around this. Explosions, dust motes, HDR effects, subtler specular effects, all sorts of cool shaders: HL2 has the wow, kids. Doom3 is one, maybe two note.

    45. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by LiENUS · · Score: 1

      100$, I aint buyin it either without a linux port.

    46. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Rico_Suave · · Score: 1

      Oh well - have fun with Tux Racer.

    47. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by ptlis · · Score: 2, Informative

      Eh, I was dissapointed to find that HL: S was a literal port of HL with no updated models, textures or anything. Granted, it does benefit from the Source engines lighting but that's the only difference I spotted when quickly playing through the start sequence.

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    48. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's a difference in what effects various video cards support. I'm running an ATI 9600. DOOM3's environmental effects just looked better to me.

    49. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > If you think that a FPS is better than sex you are not fucking correctly.

      If you think HL2 is just an FPS or that sex is better than HL2, you're still waiting for that fucking Steam crap to download.

    50. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Makarakalax · · Score: 1

      Sex is boring, the only reason I give into my body's incessant desires to fuck (women, yes just women) is because if I don't my body makes me feel depressed/inadequate.

      Sex is mostly only good for girls as far as I can tell. The whole-skin sensitivity thing is a bit good by the look of it, as well as having more erogenous zones, and they get all the foreplay too.

      I prefer programming and computer games quite often actually, although ocassionaly sex is really good and I do confess, that is hard to beat. But usually that kind of sex requires a lot of booze, and anyway, like everything else in this world stuff gets boring eventually, and sex is basically just in and out with some grunting.

      Bah. I wanna play half-life2.

      I've wondered whether to post this, but I spose - what the hell, she isn't going to read this and I'm fairly anonymous. I'd prefer intelligent replies to ac - "you are teh sux0r" replies, but I spose I'll get both.

    51. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Traa · · Score: 1

      Dear Sir,

      I humbly appologize for the spelling mistake. I am glad that you have taken some of your precious time to point it out. English is an easy language and it is hardly an excuse that it isn't my first (Dutch) or second (German).

      btw "obsolete" is an adjective, not a noun.

      Sincerely,
      Traa

    52. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Do you have the water set to "reflect all"?

    53. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1

      Nope. The default was the middle option.

    54. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Nosf3ratu · · Score: 1

      It's a noun when I'm making fun of you.

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    55. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Except the "lock" is a physics puzzle: little bit more interesting than just finding keys and walking into a door.

    56. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by shamilton · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it was mildly interesting the first time. Afterwards, it's just annoying busywork. It would be awesome if it were significantly more complicated (think: The Incredible Machine.)

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    57. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by cmpalmer · · Score: 1

      Haven't got HL2 yet, but the very best thing about the original HL over Doom, Quake, et al was the story progression and meaningfulness of the puzzles.

      Early ID games were kill everything, find a few hidden area, look for keys that someone hid in stupid places to unlock the exits. Repeat for three levels, then fight a boss. Later games had great level designs and wonderful eye-candy appeal, but the gameplay and "story" were the same.

      Half Life was like starring in a really exciting (cheesy, but exciting) action SF movie. Getting by the big tentacled monster that responded to sound, finally finding the first RPG to take down one of the helicopters in the desert, finding hidden and weird passages that actually got you somewhere useful instead of just uncovering a weapons cache, watching the pre-programmed sequences instead of getting shown animated cut-scenes that didn't look like the rest of the gameplay. All of these things made it very memorable.

      And that's just the single player mode. Even before the great mods started coming out, those laser trip mines were really cool. We even found that you could put them on a wall in a stairstep and climb to otherwise inaccessible areas.

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    58. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are teh sux0r

    59. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, and thanks to Valve for all the current authentication problems people like me are having. I really enjoy buying a game, and not being able to play SINGLE PLAYER! If only all my old games worked this way!

      Maybe we will get to play HL2 by the end of this month if we are lucky!

      *Applause* *Applause* *Applause*+1

    60. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They deserve applause for everything but the asinine requirement that you have to punch a hole in your firewall to let it phone home and tell mommy that you want to register it. Almost a masterpiece.

    61. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by celery+stalk · · Score: 1

      I have an Athlon XP 2500+ (Barton), 1024MB of DDR333, and an older card than you, an ATI Radeon 8500 with 64MB SDRam. I've been playing it at 1024x768x16, and it's not bad at all. Motion is pretty smooth, no noticable slowness or jerkiness. Obviously with only 64MB of video ram the textures aren't as complicated, and it's not a DX9 card, so given those facts it's not as pretty as it could be with a better card, but I'm still quite impressed. The worst thing are the autosave/load times at each chapter.

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    62. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by NuclearDog · · Score: 1

      "We even found that you could put them on a wall in a stairstep and climb to otherwise inaccessible areas."

      I must say that you are completely fscking nuts. /me runs off to try it.

      ND

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    63. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your firewall sucks, then.

      FreeBSD set up with IPFW worked just fine.

    64. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oooh Ooh lucky me, if their darn servers ever get up I have to open up my firewall to update(sounds big too, that's why I bought retail, to be a beta tester!)/unlock(oooh can't play my RETAIL BOUGHT single player DVD without connecting through them)/etc.

      Wonder how many windows systems are going to get Owned by viruses.

      *Applause Infinity Plus 1!*

    65. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Anyone who thinks the levels in Doom 3 were "slapped together" to show off the engine should spend a little time designing levels. The general design, lighting, sound design (which was surprisngly important for some levels), and all around attention to detail in Doom 3 was very impressive. Whether you were a fan of the gameplay or not, you would be a fool to claim the levels were "thrown together".


      Ok, lets rephrase it then: They just looked like they were thrown together.

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    66. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I can't speak about actual sex with girls, but I can at least vouch for the fact that one can get utterly bored with porn to the point that it is almost a turn OFF. Then I found myself looking for the weirder and sicker and illegal shit on eMule and I realized I had a problem.

    67. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1
      I turned on reflect all.

      You win ;)

    68. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by bafu · · Score: 1

      right, but CS and DoD and that kind of multiplayer is not at all like the co-op he is talking about, so it doesn't rate an "um." beginning. I prefer doing co-op multi with my friends, too, so I can understand his disappointment. Having said that, HL2 in co-op would be kind of strange, I think. Not because the option of an us against the universe kind of deal would have been impossible, but because, as you point out, the HL2 story that Valve chose makes it impossible. It involves lots of movement that could only work properly with one person, etc. That's not something I knock Valve for doing... there was no economic sense in doing otherwise. Actually, if someone managed to come out with a mod like that it would probably be pretty funny (like the action HL mod that let Gordon slug the scientists, etc. in the single-player game), but it couldn't be like playing HL2 anymore.

    69. Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse by bafu · · Score: 1

      The thing that annoys me about being on rails is that you still have to wait for loads. They know where you are going and there are plenty of times when you are listening to dialogue, etc. where some preloading of the next stop could be done. As load times get longer and longer in games they get to be a real distraction from the experience. It's going to be a pisser, but games are going to have to start doing rolling loads to get around it.

  9. Re:Don't buy HL2!!! by hivbus · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You are an idiot. http://www.ohnoes.org/

  10. HL2 = HL1 clone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's not original at all. I've watched my roommate playing it, and it's the same old stuff with better graphics. Physics = eye candy.

    Glad I passed on getting it now, because I buy games for their gameplay. Once the mods come along and the bargains hit I might consider it.

    1. Re:HL2 = HL1 clone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not original at all. I've watched my roommate playing it, and it's the same old stuff with better graphics.

      Well I for one enjoyed the gameplay in the "same old stuff".

    2. Re:HL2 = HL1 clone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree.

      I downloaded it over Steam, and in my opinion, its just another Quake II-type FPS with better (much better) graphics.

      When will developers finally realise that even though you may develop a game based on an existing genre, you can still include some original concepts! Thief, Deus EX, System Shock were all wonderful First Person Shooter games which didn't rely on extensive graphic engines to be revolutionary.

      Half Life II just shows, that in the game industry creativity and gameplay are always second to eye candy.

    3. Re:HL2 = HL1 clone by richy+freeway · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You sure he wasn't accidently playing Half Life : Source?

    4. Re:HL2 = HL1 clone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've watched my roommate playing it, and it's the same old stuff with better graphics.

      It's been available for 1 hour and 39 minutes at the time you posted that. You're talking about "Counterstrike: Source", surely? That was the same old stuff with better graphics. Not that I liked the old stuff (Counterstrike) to begin with, running around shooting the digital aliases of socially handicapped 14-year-olds (wash, rinse, repeat) was never my idea of fun.

      Marvellous single-players like Half Life and Half Life 2 on the other hand... Oh my god!

    5. Re:HL2 = HL1 clone by TheKidWho · · Score: 1

      Half Life was an awesome game. Whats wrong with more of the same?

      does Awesome game x 10 = sucky?

      I don't think so.

    6. Re:HL2 = HL1 clone by kaotique · · Score: 0

      too many times = boring twice is great, thrice may be acceptable. After Baldurs Gate 1+2(and expansions), Icewind Dale and Planescape: Torment, NeverWinter Nights -- even with a different engine -- just didn't feel new. Still it was fun until my unarmed strike monk couldn't touch the final boss.

    7. Re:HL2 = HL1 clone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Shhh! Not while he's being all cool and couter-culture!

    8. Re:HL2 = HL1 clone by NuclearDog · · Score: 1

      Only if you're using a short int and "Awesome game" is greater than or equal to 3276.8.

      ND

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  12. Re:Don't buy HL2!!! by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 0, Troll

    and the upcoming doom3

    ???

    Personally I think that someone has still the right to decide him-, her- or itself what to do with ones own time.
    This is a private sector too, NASA isn't. Games bring in the big monnies enabling you to just push your skills a bit further, and doing the things you dreamed about doing. -as in creating revolutionar games.

    I can see how one could find more satisfaction in entertaining millions then thinking out ways / helping out to kill millions.
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  13. Re:Hello!? by ByteSlicer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Not really offtopic. Just that it's very unusual on ./ to have a 5min pause before first post... Either a server hickup or everyone left the forum to check something out.

  14. Pheew by LosManos · · Score: 1

    No I can finally start breathing again. Have held my breath since source leak.

    Leeeeeets play!

  15. The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by MightyPez · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I remember all the previews and special edition magazines that had the same theme, "Who will come out on top: Halo 2, Doom 3, or Hal-Life 2?"

    To be honest, I was rooting for Half-Life 2. I always respected Valve's commitment to their community in their support of their game(s). Halo 2 was more of the same (yet somehow more fun than the first). Doom 3 was pretty, but had the personality of a tray of ice cubes.

    I guess what I am trying to say in my own biased way, is, I'm glad I was backing Half-Life 2. So far I am not disappointed.

    And by the way, has anyone noticed the excessive use of exploding barrels yet? It's like City 17 is a giant nitro nitro plant and they can't seem to keep track of the product.

    1. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by Pulse_Instance · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Lots of exploding barrels, and damn this thing called college, need to sleep so I actually might learn something tomorrow. I completely agree Half-Life 2 is the best out of the 3 and that is judging by the first hour alone.

    2. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      Do you remember the level with the tripwires?

      Valve uses explosives well in my thinking :P

    3. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by Zilquis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Far Cry beat them all to it

    4. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always respected Valve's commitment to their community in their support of their game(s).

      yeah and screw the customer with their "activation setup".

      I'm not buying it until I can grab an activation crack. forcing me to download something every time I install is bullshit.

      when the crack comes out, then I'll buy it...

      so that means this afternoon....

      and yes, I did not buy XP until a working Keygen was in my hands to bypass microsoft's stupid schemes.

    5. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by frog51 · · Score: 2, Funny

      What are you on about? They did this precisely so you could download or buy in the shops and not be disadvantaged timewise. Top idea, not "Screwing the customer!"

      Sheesh!

    6. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Funny
      And by the way, has anyone noticed the excessive use of exploding barrels yet? It's like City 17 is a giant nitro plant and they can't seem to keep track of the product.

      Barrels (and their sister containers, the crates) are an essential part of any FPS.

      One of the canonical pieces of FPS review literature is the Crate Review System, which measures the time in game until the appearance of the first crate or barrel (StC: Start to Crate).

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    7. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by vul7ure · · Score: 1

      agree

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    8. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by steeef · · Score: 1

      Best use of barrels: Roll one down the ramp and watch the barnacle slowly drag it up. Give it a few shots and watch it explode, causing that oh-so-satisfying explosion sound as the barnacle gets what he deserves.

    9. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 1

      Just like empty cardboard boxes in car chases.
      Or to quote Dragnet, the movie:
      Friday: Look out. Muppets.

    10. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by justins · · Score: 1

      Whatever happened to Old Man Murray? That site was the best.

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    11. Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, NEVER link to a site owned by that piece of shit libeler "Chet".

  16. Activation went off without a hitch by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 5, Informative

    I started up Steam precisely at 3:00AM, and had it tell me it was 'unlocking' (decrpyting) the files for the game. Minutes later, I was in game.

    I played about 45 minutes when I swore to myself that all I would do is the intro. The game is just plain amazing, and runs pretty damn well on my computer with detail turned up (this is a 1.5 year old laptop).

    1. Re:Activation went off without a hitch by natd · · Score: 1

      I'm still DOWNLOADING something! I did the preinstall a month or so ago. Steams been running most times since then. Today I've punched in my CC ($64 australian for HL2 and Counterstrike Source) and it's doing some download that looks like it's going to take 2 hours on my 1.5Mbps connection! AARRRRGGGG!

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    2. Re:Activation went off without a hitch by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 1

      I'm also impressed with the ease of activation. I was really expecting that there would be server overload issues, etc. But it fired up and began the unlocking process within seconds of restarting (12:00:30am, GMT -8).

      Took about 10-15 minutes for the content unlock, as it seemed to unlock a chunk, then download a tiny bit, then unlock another chunk and so on.

      Very impressed :). Now if Valve only fixes the flaw that makes it possible to steal Steam accounts (no email verification before allowing an email address change), Steam will be about perfect in my books. I suppose another way of fixing this would be to allow you to reclaim your account at any time by punching in the credit card number you used to purchase a Steam game or something.

      N.

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    3. Re:Activation went off without a hitch by bernywork · · Score: 0

      Sucks to be you.

      At the end of the day, you knew this was coming up. Those with cable (or otherwise forethought, a mate of mine is on 256k dsl) are playing now. We pre-loaded and were awaiting the good things to come.

      Nice to see that advance warnings of "Half life if preloading" fell on deaf ears.

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    4. Re:Activation went off without a hitch by CleverNickedName · · Score: 1

      Wow!

      What are your laptop's specs and how are your graphics looking?
      I'd love to get this game, but I assume my 2.4GHz laptop with 512Meg RAM and its 64Megs "Graphics RAM" just can't cut it.

      What graphics card do you have, if any?

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    5. Re:Activation went off without a hitch by ambienceman · · Score: 1

      pretty sad state that a most likely $1000 is considered old when it passes a year

    6. Re:Activation went off without a hitch by rokzy · · Score: 1

      >I was really expecting that there would be server overload issues, etc

      fuck no! I'm downloading HL:Source at 4MB/s!

      HL2 rules.

    7. Re:Activation went off without a hitch by Mr.Ned · · Score: 4, Funny

      "this is a 1.5 year old laptop"

      That laptop was pretty new when the game was supposed to be released.

    8. Re:Activation went off without a hitch by nfsilkey · · Score: 1

      The game is just plain amazing, and runs pretty damn well on my computer with detail turned up (this is a 1.5 year old laptop).

      Funny. It has been my experience that you need a laptop thats going to be manufactured in 1.5 years FROM NOW to play Counter-Strike:Source with decent performance. ;)

    9. Re:Activation went off without a hitch by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      Dell's Inspiron laptops come with somewhat beefy graphics chips with their own dedicated RAM. In fact, the graphics chips/VRAM are on their own daughterboard card which is upgradeable.

    10. Re:Activation went off without a hitch by natd · · Score: 1
      Is this a new thing on /.? We know noone RTFA but do people now reply to a post with a slagging without reading the fucking post? That reply had no relevance to me or my post!

      Anyway, after buying and unlocking and then this extra download (it downloaded slightly quicker than the estimate) I've been absolutly stunned by the game so far - it's definatly the best FPS since....Half Life! The initial 'insertion' just set the mood in a way I simply haven't felt before.

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  17. Wow.. by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Been playing it for the last 2 hours, simply Amazing.

    AMD 2600/ATI 9700PRO and I'm getting 60-100FPS with 2X AA, at 1024x768. Smooth as silk, fast, and great.

    Only problem, Its a tube chaser so far, just run and run and run. But damn if it dont look amazing.

    BTW, she looks cute in those Jeans, Good job Valve.. ;)

    1. Re:Wow.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Alyx Vance is her name. Very hawt.

      http://www.home.no/pantzman/Bilder/HL2/City17_Al yx _Vance3.jpg
      or google
      http://images.google.com/images?q=Alyx%20V ance%20&

    2. Re:Wow.. by trellick · · Score: 1

      Is that a gun in your hand or are you just pleased to see me ? ....

    3. Re:Wow.. by jayhawk88 · · Score: 2, Funny

      No no no no...that joke only works if it's a crowbar in his hazard suit.

  18. Cockroaches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this version still has cockroaches you can step on in between killing monsters, I'm there.

  19. Re:Don't buy HL2!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    > Carmack could have been working for NASA or the US military,
    ...
    >he is single-handedly causing the deaths of many young men and women.

    So instead of responsible of killing hundreds or thousands he is responsible of killing just a few. I think that is good.

  20. why $49.99? by vaylen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't understand why downloading it through Steam costs $49.99 when you can get it from places like http://www.yesasia.com/ for $39.99. I thought using Steam was going to cut out the middle man and save the buyer money while also increasing Valve's profits. So much for their great idea of direct downloading...

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    1. Re:why $49.99? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a sentence?

      Vivendi wants to fuck Valve due to steam. ;)

    2. Re:why $49.99? by mattbee · · Score: 1

      In UK pounds (and I suspect this applies to other countries that can take advantage of a weak dollar and fast connection) that's £27, slightly cheaper than I can get it at amazon.co.uk and slightly faster than in the shops.

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    3. Re:why $49.99? by MightyPez · · Score: 4, Informative
      When I buy over Steam I get a few things for my dollar. For starters, the game right now. But that's neither here nor there.

      For this demonstration, we'll follow the train of my thoughts with the package I selected, the silver package. At the price of $59.95 USD, I get the following:

      1. The Half-Life 2 game (duh)
      2. Counter-Strike: Source, the multiplayer component
      3. Half-Life (original) Source
      4. Day of Defeat Source
      5. The complete Valve catalogue, including all expansion packs and modifications
      6. And most importantly, the satisfaction that my dollar went towards the actual developers of the game, and not a middle man that printed a bunch of boxes and slapped their name on it.


      Sure you may be able to get it cheaper if you are looking at the bottom line. But with Steam I am getting value.
    4. Re:why $49.99? by DrXym · · Score: 4, Interesting
      That was my thought too. There are no printing, distribution (see note) or stocking costs, the middle man and the retailer have been removed from the equation and the end user is expected to use a large chunk of their bandwidth allowance to grab it online and burn the game if they expect to keep it.

      $29.99 seems fairer. That's $29.99 of money that goes to Valve as opposed to the $8 or whatever it is that goes with the retail version. Everyone wins except the legacy distributors - Valve because they get 4-5x the profit, the customer because they get the game for less.

      Okay, so there are some distribution issues surrounding online downloads, but these can largely be mitigated with P2P. For example World of Warcraft uses a (very sucky) custom Bittorrent client to download the game. I have no idea what the savings are for distributing via a .torrent but I can well imagine that bandwidth consumption is slashed to 1/50th.

      Expecting people to pay what they could reasonably expect to pay in the stores, is a non-starter as far as I'm concerned. Norton / Symantec do something similar.

      As an aside, the WoW custom torrent app is so abysmally slow (as in broken slow) and requires various open ports, that I followed the advice I found somewhere, and split the .torrent out of the executable to download through a normal BT client. It was about 5 times faster.

    5. Re:why $49.99? by gonzoxl5 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm sure there are elements of the contract with Vivendi that prohibit Valve undercutting the retail price when distributing via steam.

      The same type of restrictions stopped valve from activating clients purchased via Steam before the in-store release date

      However, that doesn't stop me disagreeing with the previous poster about the price of the game.

      I personally think that $49.99 is a pretty good price for a game like this irrespective of the distribution medium.

    6. Re:why $49.99? by Fembot · · Score: 1

      for cheap uk delivery see www.play.com. When I preordered it was £26.99 :-)

    7. Re:why $49.99? by DrXym · · Score: 1
      Well the point is that if a retailer can sell a game for $39.99, undercutting the RRP, then why can't Valve?

      Yes there could be contractual reasons, but as a price point $49.95 sucks for online games. I can walk into a store and buy the same game for the same or less, immediately and have a manual and CDs to show for it. If I buy it online, I have to twiddle my thumbs for 15+ hours as it downloads and I have to burn the CD / DVD afterwards. I don't know about you but I have a 12Gb download monthly limit and DVD blanks cost $2 each. So the real cost of the download is upwards of $55.

      Financially it simply isn't worth it to do. I'm sure some people will 'to support Valve' or whatnot, but frankly I don't see the idea taking off until there is a proper incentive for doing it.

      Now I'm not averse to buying games online. In fact I bought Galactic Civilizations in that way. But the point with GalCiv was that it cost $10 less than it did in the stores. If Stardock can do it, then so can Valve. Especially when Valve's are likely to sell many, many more HL2 games than GalCiv ever sold.

    8. Re:why $49.99? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $29.99 seems fairer. That's $29.99 of money that goes to Valve as opposed to the $8 or whatever it is that goes with the retail version.

      Yes! Valve have no distribution costs because bandwidth is free!

    9. Re:why $49.99? by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Reading the whole of my post is so difficult isn't it?

    10. Re:why $49.99? by strider44 · · Score: 2, Informative

      heh, I live in Australia. At the cheapest place it'll be saving me $30.

    11. Re:why $49.99? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      I was interested in getting this Silver package you got, the one thing I couldn't find was a listing showing the valve catalog contents.

      Can anybody please enlighten me?

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    12. Re:why $49.99? by slot32 · · Score: 1

      I want to buy this as a gift for Christmas... Will Valve/steam let me purchase this for someone else?

    13. Re:why $49.99? by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      You really don't know how to shop. Just flipping through the Sunday flyers and it is easy to find DVD+/-R's for about $0.50 each in bulk.

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    14. Re:why $49.99? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "the one thing I couldn't find was a listing showing the valve catalog contents."

      It's HL1 and CS:CZ. HL1 includes Opposing Force but not Blue Shift -- in other words, the same stuff that you'd get for registering your HL1 cd key with steam. CS:CZ includes CS:CZ Delete Scenes.

      And obviously, you can get any free HL1 mods available through Steam -- CS, DoD, TFC, and Ricochet. I'm doing this from memory, though, so I might've missed something.

    15. Re:why $49.99? by Schnapple · · Score: 1
      Well the point is that if a retailer can sell a game for $39.99, undercutting the RRP, then why can't Valve?
      If Valve undercuts the MSRP, then the retailers don't carry the game. Popular speculation is that 90% of this game's sales will be in a store.
      If Stardock can do it, then so can Valve.
      Stardock's publisher let them do it. VUG is not letting Valve do it. The fact that HL2 will sell more copies than GalCiv is precisely the reason VUG won't budge.

      Further, Stardock's publisher, Strategy First, is under the threat of bankruptcy - the last thing they're in a position to do is sue someone or threaten them.

    16. Re:why $49.99? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That's $29.99 of money that goes to Valve as opposed to the $8 or whatever it is that goes with the retail version."

      Are you THAT naive? Do you think Vivendi are a bunch of back-water yahoos with no experience in sales, business, and publishing?

      Who is footing the bill for the advertising and marketing of the game? Not Valve. I guarantee you that Vivendi is still getting a cut of Valve's Steam sales.

    17. Re:why $49.99? by j450n · · Score: 1

      Because of retail.

      If Valve under cut the retailers, the retailers would retaliate by not selling the game. The company I work at, S2 Games had a downloadable direct distribution for our game Savage, which we intended to offer up much cheaper, but we couldn't get any distribution deals without charging the full MSRP.

    18. Re:why $49.99? by darkwing_bmf · · Score: 1
      I was interested in getting this Silver package you got, the one thing I couldn't find was a listing showing the valve catalog contents

      * Half-Life * Counter-Strike: Condition Zero * Day of Defeat * Team Fortress Classic * Deathmatch Classic * Opposing Force * Ricochet

    19. Re:why $49.99? by cliffski · · Score: 1

      couldnt agree more. vene if they knocked just $5 off for the steam version it would be nice, but did they fuck?
      its a superb game, worth the money, but i dont like this idea fo charging so much for an online only version.

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    20. Re:why $49.99? by DrXym · · Score: 1
      Excuse me, but what's your point here? You seem to be arguing that games producers absolutely need middlemen to take a huge slice of their revenue or they make nothing at all. It's not the case with musicians and it's certainly not the case with software as many an (extremely rich) shareware author could tell you.

      Even if marketing hype initially doubled or tripled sales, Valve is still worse off than if they went it alone and sold exclusively online. Or if they had signed with a retail distributor who would agree with the existing online distribution model.

      And there would be absolutely no shortage of those. In fact, I'm sure that once Valve gets rid of Vivendi, or drags them back to the negotiation table for HL3 you can bet that Steam will be something that is not up for negotiation. If Vivdeni doesn't like it, there would be dozens of other distributions beating down the door who would.

    21. Re:why $49.99? by Slack3r78 · · Score: 1

      The reason Blizzard's torrent client is that they (stupidly) give you no way to limit your upstream bandwidth usage. So you end up saturating your upstream and your downstream suffers severely as a result.

    22. Re:why $49.99? by DrXym · · Score: 1

      I ended up pulling the .torrent out of the executable and using BitTornado to grab it. My download went from 10k to 50k which is my limit. There is some hacking required since you must manually announce yourself to overcome some tracker strangeness, but otherwise it worked fine.

    23. Re:why $49.99? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except Half Life 2 is 100% OWNED by Vivdeni that includes the source code and story line. Valve would have too turn over about 80% of the development code including the 3D Engine if they wanted to part company with Vivdeni...

    24. Re:why $49.99? by Eshock · · Score: 1

      Actually, it was part of Valve's deal with Vivendi that they couldn't sell the game any cheaper via Steam than what Vivendi was selling the game for in stores. So don't blame Valve, if they could they would sell it for cheaper and REALLY screw Vivendi over.

    25. Re:why $49.99? by Rico_Suave · · Score: 1

      Give 'em a $50 and say "here, go buy HL2"

    26. Re:why $49.99? by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 1

      Maybe I misunderstood your question, but the silver package is available right here.

      You need to buy it through Steam, though. I got the game bundled with my GFX card (the ATI bundle), works fine :) No Half Life 1 : Source, though...

      Enjoy!

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    27. Re:why $49.99? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      I know the package is available there, but when reading about it earlier, I read this:

      HALF-LIFE 2 SILVER

      $59.95

      INCLUDES:
      Half-Life 2
      Counter-Strike: Source
      Half-Life 1: Source
      Day of Defeat(TM):
      Source*
      PLUS: Valve's back catalog available on Steam!

      I merely asked what that back catalog contained, I couldn't find a listing for it anywhere, just the references to it as a whole.

      A couple of others have answered, but I've made my mind up anyway now, I'm going grabbing the box from the store, then it can sit with my original HL:GOTY pack :)

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    28. Re:why $49.99? by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but how many poor helpless factory workers, truck drivers, and store clerks have you put out on the street, you heartless oppressor!?

    29. Re:why $49.99? by gonzoxl5 · · Score: 1

      is that fact or speculation ?

      As far as I am aware the IPR for HL currently sits with Valve and the distribution rights are wityh Vivendi, that can be further evidenced with this quote from Doug Lombardi (Valve Marketing Director) in September 2004.

      "Valve sued Vivendi for copyright infringement back in 2002 over their unauthorized distribution of our products to cyber cafés," Lombardi told GameSpot last Friday. "We later had to add breach of contract claims for, among other things, refusing to pay us royalties owed and delaying Condition Zero out of the holiday season."

      That lawsuit became more complex when Sierra fought back with a counterclaim. "Almost a year and a half into the lawsuit," Lombardi continued, "Vivendi responded by making a number of claims in an attempt to invalidate our agreement and be awarded the ownership of the Half-Life intellectual property. We expect to prevail in this lawsuit."

      - Source Gamespot.com

      The court date set isn't till sometime in 2005 so as far as I'm concerned the IPR for HL and the source engine is with Valve.

  21. sigh by bgeek · · Score: 1

    I wish games makers would spend the time improving coding routines and working on gameplay than continually upping the specs required to play games. Bring back the zx spectrum I say!

    1. Re:sigh by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      I have a two year old rig.

      Athlon 2600+, 1024 ddr 333 2.5

      a7n8x-Deluxe

      And a radeon 9000 pro oc to 310/310.

      I get laughed at by clan members but this sucker runs quite well thank you. Really I couldn't be happier with valve for not wasting resources on useless eye candy. The game looks as good as it needs to in order to have immersion in this day and age, the descision to go with increased physics as opposed to dynamic lighting ala doom 3 was also a good one in my opinion since those crazy GPU manufacturer's decided that $350 was a decent price for a midrange vid-card.

    2. Re:sigh by rishistar · · Score: 1

      You can have the ZX Spectrum through the emulator. My preferred choice is the the spectaculator.

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    3. Re:sigh by hooqqa · · Score: 0

      I bet those theproduct.de guys could fit something like hl2 on a floppy.

  22. What about premium service? by -noefordeg- · · Score: 1

    What about those who paid a lot of money and ordered it over steam, to get it "before people buying it from retail stores"?

    IF you pay for a premium service you should also get it. In this case everyone got it at the same time. I would be pretty pissed right now.
    I know people who paid $75 for it, with the promise they would get it before everyone else.

    1. Re:What about premium service? by KapnShak · · Score: 1

      Who said anything about an advanced release date? The more expensive packages just come with more bonus content. Half Life 1 Source, DOD Source, etc.

    2. Re:What about premium service? by thryllkill · · Score: 1

      Someone lied to you, since none of the Steam pre-load offers were for $75.

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    3. Re:What about premium service? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ya pays your money, ya takes your chances

      be as pretty pissed as you want to be or imagine others to be...

    4. Re:What about premium service? by jtids · · Score: 1

      The gold edition avaliable to download off steam is $89.95, but that package is for the real fanboys who want half-life 2 posters, the strategy guide, soundtrack cd, hat, collector's box, postcard and some other goodies. Wonder how much that badboy would cost to ship to the UK.

  23. Re:Don't buy HL2!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the fuck?

    What does Jon Carmack have to do with HL2?

    Is this a thread-rip from a Doom3 thread?

  24. It Doesnt Work!!! by VC · · Score: 1

    Ive downloaded it, unlocked it and get the menu page but when i start the game it crasheds.

    Oh the humanity! (and being in london, i was late for work as well (release 8am GMT) )

    1. Re:It Doesnt Work!!! by VC · · Score: 5, Informative

      Replying to my own post incase anyone else has this same problem:

      Apparently steam didnt download all the files. What files are missing varies from machine to machine. Valve is working on a fix.

    2. Re:It Doesnt Work!!! by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Are they helping you personally too? Erik Johnson and the gang? Pretty cool to have the actual developers on the phone to help out when you need em. :)

    3. Re:It Doesnt Work!!! by VC · · Score: 1

      nope but im going to try rename the source somthing or other when i get home from work like you said. :-)

    4. Re:It Doesnt Work!!! by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Just asking: did you, when the game was originally unlocked, try to enable HL:S to finish downloading, and then give up when you saw it wouldn't be ready anytime soon? That seems to be the common vector for almost everyone with this problem: not having HL:S fully downloaded, but trying and then cancelling it midway, seems to have been the issue. Was it for you?

    5. Re:It Doesnt Work!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If their fix is like any of their other fixes it will be to delete random files and see what happens.

    6. Re:It Doesnt Work!!! by Wescotte · · Score: 1

      RTFM! oh wait.. downloaded you say? no manual you say?

    7. Re:It Doesnt Work!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Had the same problem here... even CS:source didn't work - i could start a single player game, but as soon as my progress bar got to 'sending client info' my pc would hard lock... after the game was finally unlocked i tried hl2 and it froze after the 1st intro cutscene fade (when the dude's face goes to negative black+white) and it just loops on his voice... i dont have any locking issues with other games. p4 3.4 / 6800 gt.

      please keep us posted if you find a 'fix'

      ps the loading time before the menu really sucks

  25. Re:I guess the idiots are happy by Grandmasta · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...So I guess you're a Halo 2 fan?

  26. Insomnia tonight by mcknation · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Couldn't sleep and I was sick of infomercials so I decided I would try this steam thing...seeing as it was unlocked today. I dusted off the copy of HL1 a few months back and got aquainted with steam. Steam got HL1 down and playable on my machine in notime. They must be getting SLAMED. I have 4 meg down and steam (when used for HL1) saturated my bandwidth. As it sits now I bought the game and started downloading it at 4am. It's now 4:45 EST and I have 6% of HL2 downloaded. Ready to play in aprox. 321 minutes. So maybe this stint with insomnia will be spent watching the progress bar. If you are planing to buy HL2 as much as I'd rather the money go to Valve I would have to suggest you get a boxed copy....and leave Valve content server 18 alone...:P

    /-McK

    1. Re:Insomnia tonight by KapnShak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Strange, the Steam Status says their using less then half their available bandwidth. Maybe its just a really big download?

    2. Re:Insomnia tonight by jasoncart · · Score: 3, Informative

      The max bandwidth stat they use on that page is very theoretical - the actual max is a lot lower.

    3. Re:Insomnia tonight by mcknation · · Score: 2, Informative


      Well I don't know if you would consider a 838 Meg download a big download. However I just checked and the steam download is jumping from 20KB to a max of 95 or so. It's all over the place. It's not steady and it's not saturating my bandwidth. I guess I can't argue though as other people are downloading just like me :)

      /-McK

    4. Re:Insomnia tonight by TomServo · · Score: 2, Informative

      I would imagine that, at this point, the vast majority of people buying it on Steam have already pre-loaded the game, as I had. I had the entire thing downloaded over a week ago, just sitting and waiting to be unlocked with what appeared to be only downloading some keys for decrypting, not any real content. The rest of them probably bought it retail, so they already have all of the files necessary, they just have to get the keys as well.

      The only one that's getting me is that I didn't realize that I had to download HL1:Source as well, so now I've got that coming down. It seems to be handling it quite well.

    5. Re:Insomnia tonight by wpc4 · · Score: 1

      Roughtly 4.5GB of data, so yes, lets of stuff to download.

    6. Re:Insomnia tonight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a huge download... if you didn't preload, you will be downloading more than 2.5 gigs.

    7. Re:Insomnia tonight by AhabTheArab · · Score: 1

      Plan ahead next time, it's been available for pre-load for a couple months now. I pre-loaded the night it was available, so I wouldn't have to worry about it. All I had to do this morning was activate it, which couldn't have taken more than five minutes.

  27. But what about install speeds? by King_of_Prussia · · Score: 3, Funny
    I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you Valve fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Linux box (a PIII 800 w/512 Megs of RAM) for about 35 minutes now while it attempts to Install Half-Life 2. 35 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this Linux box, installing Doom 3 took about 15 minutes. In addition, during this install, Mozilla will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Emacs Lite is straining to keep up as I type this.

    I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while installing Valve products, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Valve product that has run faster than its ID counterpart, despite the Valve products faster optimised code. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram installs windows faster than this 800 mhz machine can do Half-Life at times. From an ease of installation standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that Valve is a "superior" company.

    Valve addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a Valve product over other faster, cheaper, more stable games.

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    1. Re:But what about install speeds? by vaporakula · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      You judge games based on how long it takes to install?

      Wow.

      Personally, I go for games that are *fun to play*.

    2. Re:But what about install speeds? by Agret · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think you can really comment on install speeds when you are using a Linux box to install a Windows game. It won't run anyway since it is heavily reliant on DirectX 9 Technology unlike Doom 3 which uses OpenGL.

      Your computer is below the minimum requirements too. :: Half-Life 2 Requirements

      To play Half-Life 2 and other Source add-ons you need at least the following specification PC.

      Minimum Requirements

      * 1.2 GHz Processor
      * 256MB RAM
      * DirectX 7 level graphics card
      * Windows 2000/XP/ME/98

      Recommended System

      * 2.4 GHz Processor
      * 512MB RAM
      * DirectX 9 level graphics card
      * Windows 2000/XP

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    3. Re:But what about install speeds? by rootofevil · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even Emacs Lite

      i think i found your problem...
      try using vi or pico and save approximately 100% of those resources ;-)

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    4. Re:But what about install speeds? by eric_brissette · · Score: 1

      I just haven't had the problems with their products that you have.

      And while I don't really know whose products run faster on a 5 year old machine, they ran well and installed easily on mine. I don't benchmark my games, I just play them, and I _enjoy_ half-life more than any other FPS I've played. I think it's more FUN.

      Choosing a game because of odd technical reasons is like my roomate who watches movies based on what hot celebrities are acting in them. Man he watches lame movies.

    5. Re:But what about install speeds? by Aero · · Score: 1

      You must be the guy in the audience of the gameplay movie (released last year) that asked "will it run on my 486?"

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    6. Re:But what about install speeds? by kenwood720 · · Score: 1

      Linux box (a PIII 800 w/512 Megs of RAM)

      Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this Linux box

      Really, it's slower?

      installing Doom 3 took about 15 minutes

      Why were installing Doom 3 on a Pentium Pro 200?

      Think you could splurge for a system that's a little faster? Maybe you should check on the minimum system requirements for those games.

    7. Re:But what about install speeds? by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

      When I bought Wing Commander 2 in the early 90s it took AN HOUR to install off the 8 compressed floppies. Turned out to be one of my favourite games of all time. Good things come to those who wait!

      And comparing a Windows install on an 486 to Half Life's install on a P3 is like comparing apples and tubas.

    8. Re:But what about install speeds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YHBT. YHL. HAND.

    9. Re:But what about install speeds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prussia is dead.

    10. Re:But what about install speeds? by SkiifGeek · · Score: 1

      Agret meet troll, troll meet Agret.

      For the newly initiated, the original post is a modification of a long time troll that inhabited the Apple section of this site, always starting off with 'Sitting at my freelance gig ...' somewhere in the first sentence, and then prattling on about how crap their system was, but outperforming whatever the article was about.

  28. Soundtrack MP3 based? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'm assuming since you can download this version that the music is no longer on the cd. The music for the first one was excellent and key during parts of the game so I hope they don't have bad compressed MP3s, or some other proprietary compression, for the music this time around.

    1. Re:Soundtrack MP3 based? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Are you complaining about the quality or the fact that it's mp3?

      (Because you'd look mighty stupid complaining about mp3s in a piece of proprietary software for a proprietary operating system)

  29. Re:Don't buy HL2!!! by funkygibbin · · Score: 0
    We should also call the guy that invented plastic (Alexander Parkes with with a plastic-like goo) a pathetic excuse for a human, because his only intention was to make disposable plastic coffee cups - what a waste! Why didn't he do something useful with his life! Then again, without the field of plastics, our lives would be vastly different, including medicine; flight; agriculture; ....

    Jon's games and code have advanced the field of personal real-time 3D graphics as a whole, not simply first-person shooters. Without the pressures which Carmack and friends brought to bear on the graphics cards manufacturers the 3D graphics market would still be insignificant. The positive effects of this research has and will continue to be profound. Virtually every game currently under development has a 3D component to it.

    • Strategy games (WC3)
    • Flight sims
    • The Sims
    • First person shooters
    • Role playing games
    Think on the profound changes that are likely over the next 5-10 years within the 3D graphics / simulation space. Imagine if all we had to look forward to in gaming was yet another side-scrolling game...

    The foundations for the sweeping vista that is the real-time 3D graphics space was laid by one man: John Carmack.

  30. Finally some realistic humans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. Re:Finally some realistic humans by Doppleganger · · Score: 2, Funny

      Finally some realistic humans

      http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/screen s_6113062.html?page=10


      I'll say. That one looks exactly like my boss! Oh, wait, I can scroll this picture over a bit...

    2. Re:Finally some realistic humans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those are nice, but I've yet to see more realistic humMEN than these:

      http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/review s/ 914765_20031209_screen001.jpg
      http://images.3dgam ers.com/screenimages/games/sile nthill4/sh4_11.jpg

    3. Re:Finally some realistic humans by spuzzzzzzz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Water looks sweet, but the humans look a bit flat compared with the dynamic shadowy bump-mapped goodness of Doom 3.

      Maybe I'm just biased because this bloody game is Windows-only.

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    4. Re:Finally some realistic humans by strider44 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      actually I think the half-life humans look like crap. It's their skin - there's no pores and it's too smooth. Doom 3 did a whole lot better representing humans, though there wasn't many of them.

      However, I haven't played the game, and if the animations are done properly it may account for the bad texturing.

    5. Re:Finally some realistic humans by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      You have to see them in motion and up close: you really can almost see their pores and such. And nothing in Doom3 compares to characters like Alyx. The way the light glows off her face and her necklace. The way the characters are alive with all sorts of tiny facial details and posture. Really pretty incredible. And that's from just seeing the binks: I've still yet to see them ingame.

    6. Re:Finally some realistic humans by strider44 · · Score: 1

      Oh I've seen movies of it, but anyway...

      The main problem is, like it or not, the characters just don't look realistic. If you saw the character in a real picture you'll be able to spot it as computer generated even in a situation like wheres wally. Light doesn't glow off girls faces usually - you might get some specular but almost no glow. Again it doesn't look realistic to me at all, and I think with a few simple modifications to the textures and material properties, it could make the characters look a huge amount better, which, to me, is a major disappointment when looking at the game's graphics.

      Of course, it doesn't actually matter that much to me. I'm not going to play it anyway - I use linux so I'm just going to stick to the copies of Doom 3 and Unreal Tournament 2004 that I bought and maybe play Half Life in the unlikely event that a linux port comes along.

    7. Re:Finally some realistic humans by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      But in terms of realism and quality, I have to say: HL2 beats Doom hands down. Doom's faces are plasticy and dull: the crude bump mapping stands out too often. Half-life2s are vaugely cartoonish but also erily alive. Not quite going for real-life, but distinctive and artistic. A lot of the art design in HL2 is like that: it has a powerful overall feel. I'm very very impressed, and people are saying that the actual game is even more polished and detailed than the binks.

    8. Re:Finally some realistic humans by brkello · · Score: 0, Troll

      So you are making comments based on pictures and videos rather than actually playing the game. That's pretty ridiculous. It is pretty clear you are just bitter it isn't on Linux from your later comments. Seriously, if you don't intend to buy and play the game, why bother commenting. And to say they look like crap is pretty amazing...I'd like to see you do half as well.

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    9. Re:Finally some realistic humans by zeno_2 · · Score: 1

      Those screenshots are nice, but I dont think they do the game justice. HL2 is absolutely the best looking game ive ever seen, and so far it is quite fun. Those guys in the gasmasks are scary =)

    10. Re:Finally some realistic humans by eric_brissette · · Score: 1

      I thought the bump mapped monsters in doom 3 looked awesome.. but the humans didn't really pull it off so well. I thought the humans in doom3 all looked like plastic shiny action figures with tiny heads and huge bodies.

    11. Re:Finally some realistic humans by eric_brissette · · Score: 1

      I only had about 10 minutes to play before I came to work.. and those guys in gas masks like to pound the shit outa me. Apparently they don't like it when you get into their personal space.

    12. Re:Finally some realistic humans by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you are talking about screenshots - yes, Doom 3 looks better. However, given that I am playing the game at around 100 fps I can tell you that the characters in Half Life look better than those in Doom 3. Why? They move properly, and they actually seem to display emotion. In fact, right at the beginning in the train when you go up to the others in the train the people look disturbingly real. Their eyes follow you, their whole faces change, you can SEE that they are miserable, and you just know by how they look that something is wrong.

      In Doom 3, everyone looked great - like a marble statue compared with the models in Half Life 2.

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    13. Re:Finally some realistic humans by Tallon29 · · Score: 2, Funny

      But in Doom 3 everyone was covered in a highly reflective sheet of saran wrap

    14. Re:Finally some realistic humans by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      How the hell can you see pores anyway? My windows desktop is 1600x1200x32 and I don't anticipate playing HL2 at more than 1024x768x32 as I have only a GF4Ti4200. What kind of video card and monitor would I need before I could actually see individual pores? Generally speaking if you can see someone's pores, unless you're fucking them or giving them a medical examination, you're too close.

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    15. Re:Finally some realistic humans by tr0p · · Score: 0, Troll
      Of course, it doesn't actually matter that much to me. I'm not going to play it anyway - I use linux so I'm just going to stick to the copies of Doom 3 and Unreal Tournament 2004 that I bought and maybe play Half Life in the unlikely event that a linux port comes along.
      LOLOLOLOLROFLMAO!@#$
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    16. Re:Finally some realistic humans by Karn · · Score: 1

      Some of the characters do look a bit weak (skin looks 'blotchy'), but I must say, looking at a dead Combine soldier floating in the water of a shallow brick canal was the most realistic scene I have experienced in any game, Doom 3 included. Everything was so convincing: water, light, textures, that I honestly couldn't tell that it was rendered.

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    17. Re:Finally some realistic humans by spuzzzzzzz · · Score: 1

      I agree that the humans looked a bit fake. They reminded me a bit of shrek. Nevertheless, they looked much more solid and 3d than the screenshots linked above. Of course, Doom 3 screenshots didn't do the game justice so its possible that the screenshots above are selling HL2 short.

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    18. Re:Finally some realistic humans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/screen s_6113062.html?page=7

      mmm.... sweater puppies...

    19. Re:Finally some realistic humans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those aren't pores you insensitive bastard!

      They're bullet holes!

      Now please call an ambulance!

    20. Re:Finally some realistic humans by Specter · · Score: 1

      Even creepier was crawling back in a water filled corner of a sewer/canal, pushing a floating black and red thing out of the way and then realizing after I've "touched" it (and physically recoiling) it's the charred remains of a human body!

      This is the kind of 'leaning in your chair to look around the virtual corner' immersion that made HL1 so good. I can't wait to put the kids to bed tonight. (Brew a pot of coffee honey!)

  31. I've been playing... by mtrisk · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was on #halflife2 on IRC for the countdown. Then I started playing. In the hour that I have played Half-Life 2, the only thing I can say is that I am in complete awe.

    First off, If you've played CS:Source, you don't even know the half of it. Half-Life 2 is one hell of a single player. It manages to scare you in broad daylight. It scares you not just by monsters, but by the dystopia/authoritarian thing going on. It's really freaking scary.

    The voices, facial movements, physics, "Civil Protectorate", it's all awesome. After just one hour, I've forgiven Valve. Half-Life 2 is just as revolutionary as the original Half-Life was. You really have to play it to believe it. I can't even begin to describe in words the euphoria and the terror it strikes in your heart.

    Not bad for a company's second game.

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  32. MIdnight PST = 8.00AM gmt ? by DrStrangeLug · · Score: 1

    Arggghh!! I was too "honest" to call in sick today! The rod up my butt must have a rod up its butt. And I'm roleplaying tonight so I only get two hours when I get home to enjoy the goodness. (I swore to myself years ago never to forgo human interaction for a computer game. I haven't decided where online gaming lies yet).

    1. Re:MIdnight PST = 8.00AM gmt ? by ildon · · Score: 1

      If your role playing buddies do not forgive you for skipping out to play HL2 then they are not true geeks and you should stop playing with them immediately.

  33. Possible Linux support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would anyone speculate if Valve and/or the publisher can possibly be persuaded to port this beauty to Linux?

    Is it running on OpenGL or DirectX?

    1. Re:Possible Linux support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It runs on DirectX, no GL support at all.

    2. Re:Possible Linux support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *SIGH*

      Oh well... Now there is even less chances of there being a port of the engine to Linux!

    3. Re:Possible Linux support? by jmo_jon · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately doesn't there seems to be any plans on releasing it for linux, at least they claim so here

    4. Re:Possible Linux support? by hthb · · Score: 1

      DirectX only my friend. Sorry

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    5. Re:Possible Linux support? by hermeshome.se · · Score: 1

      No, I guess not. The problem is that Half Life 2 is using Direct X. And porting it to Open GL is a huge task. The customerbase that would buy the Linux version is to small to cover the costs.

      If I had the skills, I would surely vouluntair to help out porting for free.
      Wouldn't that be something, to have a Linux Game Porting community, helping software companies port to Linux?

      Anyhow, it would be a very nice thing to have both Doom 3 and Half Life 2 for Linux, then I wouldn't need the secondary NTFS-formated hard drive.

    6. Re:Possible Linux support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not a chance in hell. they told us linux users to "fuck off" last time for HL1 even though many figured out a way to play HL1 under linux.

      Valve hates linux users, they have publically said this.

    7. Re:Possible Linux support? by lowe0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Valve hates linux users, they have publically said this."

      Got a link to a quote from someone at Valve saying they hate Linux users?

    8. Re:Possible Linux support? by Boeboe · · Score: 0

      Valve hates linux users because they keep whining about how their OS (that was made for server purposes) is not supported...you don't ever hear apple users complaining, even though they ARE using a desktop OS.

    9. Re:Possible Linux support? by bani · · Score: 1

      actually, they dont specifically hate linux users, they hate anything that isnt windows.

  34. How's the replayability? by Jugalator · · Score: 1

    Is there any?

    I didn't play HL1, but think that while the single player mode is great and pretty, I fear it gets worn out pretty quickly? :-/

    A major factor when I buy games is nowadays is the amount of replayability.

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    1. Re:How's the replayability? by Pulse_Instance · · Score: 1

      I have replayed the original Half Life a few times since its release, the thing about the Half Life series is that instead of having a 5 hour game it takes much longer. I think one time a friend told me it took him 50 hours, he may have been lying, but the guy wasn't so good at fps's, and not to smart at puzzles either, I think he also broke every single box in the game. Thats beside the point even if your rush through the game you are looking at 15+ hours.

    2. Re:How's the replayability? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Are you asking those who have finished the game in, uhm, 1 hour and 57 minutes?

    3. Re:How's the replayability? by HoneyBunchesOfGoats · · Score: 4, Informative

      The first Half-life only stuck around so long because there were so many mods for it.. Valve has surely made HL2 mod-friendly (I think the SDK has been out for at least a month), so if you're tired of the original game, there will be several more new ones you can play for free.

    4. Re:How's the replayability? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about the second one yet - though I have played the intro sequence three times already because it is THAT good

      But I bought Half Life when it came out and I've played it through at least three or four times - the last time less than a month ago. I enjoyed it loads each time and I bought the silver package of HL2 to hedge my bets so that if HL2 turned out to be pants then atleast I;d have the updated Half Life:source (HL remade in the HL2 engine) and opposing force (not remade).

      In short, the first one was cracking several times - this one is shaping up great

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    5. Re:How's the replayability? by JWhitlock · · Score: 1
      I never replayed the original Half Life. It was the most enjoyable FPS I've ever played, but I'm no longer a college kid with lots of time on my hands, so it took me about a month of weekend sessions to beat it. Then, I moved on to other things, like bills and dishes.

      However, I'd estimate that the original Half-Life saved me over $300 since the release. I'm not a serious gamer, but I do buy about 3 or 4 games a year, at about $30 a game. Since I bought Half Life in 2000, that has been reduced to about 1 game a year. So, at the low end, that's about 10 games I didn't buy, that don't sit on my shelf gathering dust.

      Half-Life was great, but the multiplayer was just standard death-match. It was fun, though - we installed it at work, and would play from 5 PM to late at night on the weekends.

      It was the mods that were amazing. Team Fortress Classic was challenging, and a good intro to online team-based gameplay. With half-a-dozen classes, fairly well balanced, there was enough variety to keep you interested for a long time. This was the game that made me get broadband.

      Then, I tried Counterstrike. It is hard to remember how revolutionary this game was the first time you played it. I was never a top-flight player, making crazy kills with a sniper rifle. But I could use the lower weapons well, and usually positioned myself where I could take out two or three enemies before getting killed. The feeling of getting "in the zone", combined with the social pressure to make sure your side won, made for addictive gameplay. And then there was the drama of being the last one alive, and the game turning into a one-on-one deathmatch.

      After a few years of this, I moved on to other mods. I never played the Day of Defeat, although it sounds as addictive (and may have spawned the whole WW2 genre). I enjoyed Science and Industry, but I felt the voting on technology got in the way of learning to play the game.

      Then, a Penny Arcade post pointed out Natural Selection. NS is an amazing combination of a resource management game and an FPS, with a cool science-fiction theme. There are three games in one - a team-based marine vs. aliens game, a looser but still collaborative aliens vs. marines game, and the leadership and resource management game as the marine commander. That was before they added the new gametype for version 2.0. NS is one of the best and most addictive games I have ever played.

      All of these mods were free, except for the monthly charge for broadband. I'm now at the point where I am slightly allergic to paying for games, but I have no interest in pirated games. Instead, if I get bored of NS, I work on my web server or play around with a programming project. So, Half-Life has helped my resume, too.

      Valve realizes that what made Half-Life so sucessful was a first player experience that easily won Game of the Year for many reviewers, followed by a mod community that gave it a lifetime far beyond that of any other game (with the possible exception of the Civilization series). They have developed the mod tools along with the game, and released the Source SDK (for the HL2 engine) a few weeks ago. You may want to wait for the price to go down (which could be a while), and to see what the mods look like. I know it sounds silly, but HL2 is an investment.

      Unless you don't have broadband. In which case, Greetings from the 21st Century! How are things back in the 1990's?

    6. Re:How's the replayability? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if a game gives you 40 hours of play but isn't that replayable, you'd rather buy a game that gives you 10 hours of play, and play that over and over?

    7. Re:How's the replayability? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Unless you don't have broadband. In which case, Greetings from the 21st Century! How are things back in the 1990's?


      I'm a goddamn farmer living away from the abnormal civilization, you insensitive clod!
    8. Re:How's the replayability? by ptlis · · Score: 1

      The thing is that with HL2 you do not simply get the Single-player game, in a few months there'll be hundreds of fan-created mods available as well as the ones done by Valve (DoD:S and CS:S). In terms of value for money the £20 I spent on HL1 has given me more hours of enjoyment than anything, ever. Between the excellent single-player game and the mods I play I must have spent thousands of hours with it and all idications are that I'll be saying the same thing in another 6years when HL3 is released.

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  35. Bug by -medeakun- · · Score: 1

    Looking at the boards on http://www.halflife2.net/forums and http://www.hlfallout.net/ it seems as though quite a few people can't play because of numerous bugs.

    1. Re:Bug by raventh1 · · Score: 1

      no bugs here. -- ok.

  36. Re:I guess the idiots are happy by kazoosandinstruments · · Score: 1

    I didn't read the license, but nothing that I know of prevents you from buying it, deciding it's shit, and selling/trading the password to your Steam account (which has a resettable e-mail address associated with it.) ... The new "owner" can then change the password and e-mail address, and delete all the friends (or, hell, even keep them, haha!) and add his or her own.

  37. Re:I guess the idiots are happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if you have other steam content?

  38. Finally by JakeD409 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I feel like I am truly alive for the first time ever. It's like my life itself was finally fully activated at midnight PST on November 16th, 2004. Infanthood, toddlerhood, preschool, elementary school, middle school, puberty, high school, these were just pre-loads.

    1. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You silly boy, *tee hee*

    2. Re:Finally by SamSim · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't forget to save, then

  39. Re:I guess the idiots are happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    World of Warcraft actually. Just one more week

  40. Opening.... by fishmasta · · Score: 5, Funny

    And the opening train ride took less than 10 minutes! Thank you, Valve!

    1. Re:Opening.... by Zorilla · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't worry - I'm sure my brother will find a way to fall off the first tram ride without saving.

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    2. Re:Opening.... by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      Hmmm relative measurement of patience vs. anticipation? Mod parent insightful!

    3. Re:Opening.... by dcam · · Score: 1

      The mod community will release a fix for this.

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  41. Awesome tech support by junkgrep · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So mygame kept crashing loading the very first level. I wanted to cry. Not knowing what to do, I did the only geek thing I could think of: I simply posted my tears on Shacknews. But within minutes a Valve guy showed up asking if he could help. Then Erik Johnson himself popped in and started troubleshooting. I practically had Valve guys fighting over who could help me fix the problem first. And all this at like 2am in the morning. That's some pretty sweet support kids: they tracked ME down instead of me having to beg them to help.

    1. Re:Awesome tech support by xmpcray · · Score: 2, Informative

      "...they tracked ME down instead of me having to beg them to help." Arent you glad you are not using a pirated version? ;)

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    2. Re:Awesome tech support by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Yep, I am glad. From all the gushing joy, it sounds like they deserved every cent, and my anger at not being able to play is muted by the incredible response I'm getting on them trying to resolve my issue so that I can play ASAP.
      Steam also makes it pretty easy for them to troubleshoot too: not only the usual memory dumps that I can send in, but I can also send in any of the content (gcf) files I'm using so they can examine exactly what went wrong and run whatever chunks they think might have gotten broken on my machine on their machines to reproduce the exact issue.

    3. Re:Awesome tech support by VC · · Score: 1

      Have either of you got it working? Ive got the same problem :-(

    4. Re:Awesome tech support by junkgrep · · Score: 2

      Basically, the current thing to try is to rename or delete (I'd rename) the source models gcf in the steam/steamapps folder and then restart Steam so it redownloads it. Seems that some downloads of pre-load content were corrupted or slightly mismatched.

      By the way, could everyone stop playing/pre-loading so that we can have the bandwidth to redownload quickly? Please? :)

    5. Re:Awesome tech support by TheLoneDanger · · Score: 4, Funny

      I practically had Valve guys fighting over who could help me fix the problem first.

      Valve's next press release: Valve regretfully announces that Team Fortress 2 has again been delayed due to injuries sustained by our techs during a massive free-for-all brawl. "Bob totally knew that glitch that guy was experiencing with his Gefore 6400 was mine, man. He already got the one with the problem that guy in Iowa had with the crashing during installation, and that was one sweet bug to fix. Bastard."

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    6. Re:Awesome tech support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      2am in the morning.

      I think we knew which 2am you were talking about.

    7. Re:Awesome tech support by fraudrogic · · Score: 1

      So to keep the headaches at a minimum for us, what was the solution to your problem? Vid Drivers?

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    8. Re:Awesome tech support by obsid1an · · Score: 1

      That's nice they tech support shacknews. Maybe they should start doing the same to their own forums. I haven't been able to play CS:S for about three weeks now because all the game does is timeout trying to connect to any MP server. And yes I know how to forward ports and turn off firewalls.

    9. Re:Awesome tech support by dalutong · · Score: 1

      Hey Natalie,

      I'm sorry if you think this is forward. When I saw your post I wondered, "who could possible have this kind of draw?" Then I figured it out. Natalie Portman!

      It's an honor. Truly and honor.

      Can I have your number?

      Thanks!

      Sincerely,
      A Guy Whose Doesn't Matter

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    10. Re:Awesome tech support by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Nope: one busted pre-load file (some issue with only partially pre-loading HL:S before cancelling that and firing up HL2). Just had to rename a file, restart steam, redownload, and I was good to go.

    11. Re:Awesome tech support by Zak3056 · · Score: 1
      Quote from the linked thread:

      I'm guessing Valve is not going to be around to fix it anytime soon. FanTAStic.


      Haven't read further down yet, but here's hoping you had the decency to appologize to them. :)

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    12. Re:Awesome tech support by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Have you tried the new support ticket system at steampowered.com?

    13. Re:Awesome tech support by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Well, I do bow down and kiss their feet at one point....

    14. Re:Awesome tech support by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Me Techie support, Long Time!!!

    15. Re:Awesome tech support by Groganz · · Score: 1

      ...Two factions quickly developed and built opposing castles out of the lounge suite. Eventually red won when one team member swam through the flooded cellar and stole blue's cookie stash.

    16. Re:Awesome tech support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes... and it's horrible... i have the exact same problem and no support to be found

    17. Re:Awesome tech support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you possibly enlighten me on what you did to fix this? wasted 2 nights trying to play an overpriced game

    18. Re:Awesome tech support by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Well, once I figured out how to create an account and file a ticket, I got help within minutes. I assume they are more more swamped now, but still: I don't see how it's horrible.

  42. Re:I guess the idiots are happy by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Cough, crack.

    Perhaps a terrible pun but apt in this case I think.

    It would have been nice if valve had promised to release some form of patch if Steam was ever to go down but c'est la vie, I'm sure I can find one elsewhere.

  43. What a weird troll by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
    This guy must be piss poor as well as insane. Or maybe it is one of the fill in the blanks trolls and he just never increased the hardware.

    A pentium pro with nt4? Wtf? That is not just obsolete, it belongs in a museum. Then he mentions windos on a 486. I often get confused about timelines but aren't we talking windows 95 here at best? Wasn't the first windows that wasn't as much a disaster as windows 3 pretty much pentium only?

    So basically this is a troll/rant that a game takes time to install on hardware wich can't run it. If it is true, wich is always possible /. has a lot of idiots, then might it take a while because he is downloading it over his leet 9600bps modem?

    Anyway he wants a reason to buy valve games? Because half-life was one of the best first person shooters ever and still counts as a benchmark for every other fps out there. Only a tiny handfull of games can even compare. They also shown enormous commitment to maintaining their product. Where most fans fall down on their hands and knees in thanks when their game company fixes bugs that should have been spotted in beta, Valva has continued to upgrade half-life at no cost over the original purchase price. Sure it also allowed them to sell expansion packs but nobody forced you to buy them. You still got the improvments if you updated.

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  44. Playing it now *WOW* by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 3, Informative

    The only reason I am typing this is because during the first 30 min my system locked while playing - I had to hard reset. No big deal (I am one of those dangerous overclockers ;)

    But *WOW* This game has already destroyed Doom 3 in the FIRST HALF HOUR OF PLAY!

    You will excuse me, I have uh, important uh, stuff to uh, go and do now...

    *starts steam again*

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  45. Infidel by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
    No I am not going to make jokes. You never played an absolute classic game wich everyone who likes first person shooters would recommend and you want to know about the sequel?

    Don't bother.

    As for replayability being your major factor for buying games. What a weird choice. Do you only watch movies wich you can watch over and over again?

    But of course the answer is simple. No half-life 2 is not a endless replay game. It is heavily story based and once you know the story you can only improve your "score" except it doesn't keep a score.

    Go play tetris.

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    MMO Quests are like orgasms:

    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

    1. Re:Infidel by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As for replayability being your major factor for buying games. What a weird choice. Do you only watch movies wich you can watch over and over again?

      He probably only buys movies that he can watch over and over again, like most people I know. Normally when somebody wants to watch a once-only movie, they rent it or watch it in a theater. These are not generally options for games.

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    2. Re:Infidel by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      Don't bother.

      Why, I could've been missing out on something great.

      Do you only watch movies wich you can watch over and over again?

      No, but I think games are different. :-)

      I won't bother with making comparisons, but I think games with good replayability last longer so you have fun a longer time with it. Does that make sense to you?

      But of course the answer is simple. No half-life 2 is not a endless replay game. It is heavily story based and once you know the story you can only improve your "score" except it doesn't keep a score.

      Yeah, I was mostly wondering if that had added elements to the game so it would be able to be completed in several different ways, with several different characters, and so on. Even if it's story based, there's a lot of things you can do to it to increase it's longevity, you know.

      Go play tetris.

      Hate the game. :-)

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    3. Re:Infidel by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's actually a comparison that matches better how I think. Good replayability => fun a longer time => more value in the game since... well, you have fun a longer time. I'd be much more easily convinced of buying a game if I knew it would last for at least a few months rather than a weekend or two of hardcore gaming. But of course, I can have fun with short games too, and it's not the only deciding factor (and why I don't play Tetris all day long).

      I'm sure many game developers know this too, otherwise we wouldn't have all these games where the story have different endings depending on how you play the game. RTS games usually have different races you can choose for this reason too, with multiple strategies, and so on. I just think these steps should be taken to FPS games as well, if they haven't already (which was why I asked, I didn't know how HL1 and HL2 played here -- I have only played Quake 1, Quake 2, Quake 3 Arena, and UT2004 in the past, since their replayability comes from the multiplayer factor).

      Complex missions, side quests, large open world, as much elements of randomness as possible, multiple character classes playing vastly differently compared to each other, yet fast-paced action with glorious graphics, and so on. Morrowind was kinda cool, but that wasn't really an FPS but an RPG. Too slow and boring for my tastes. :P

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    4. Re:Infidel by prell · · Score: 1
      These are not generally options for games.
      When I was a kid, our library rented out PC games. I mean new games, like the latest in the Police Quest or Kings Quest series, and they just gave you the disks for free. What a time to be alive..
    5. Re:Infidel by dfiguero · · Score: 1

      You should try a MMORPG. Always different people, quests, events, etc.

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    6. Re:Infidel by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 1

      Deus Ex 1 and System Shock 2 are both really up your alley then. You might want to give them a shot.

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  46. Half-life:Source Released as well by JiMbOb_ka · · Score: 1

    It looks like they also unlocked the port of the original half-life on the new Source engine as well. I am downloading that as we speak.

    1. Re:Half-life:Source Released as well by kyhwana · · Score: 1

      But only if you bought the bronze pack, ATI coupon owners miss out. :(

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  47. Re:Don't buy HL2!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Definitely! When the revolution comes, Carmack will be sent to a re-education camp in Northern China.

  48. Why lord why... by FluffyPanda · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...did they have to release HL2 on my girlfriend's birthday.

    Now I'll be looking over a candle in a romantic restaurant picturing gordon freeman's beardy mug.

    I wonder if macdonalds would do...

    1. Re:Why lord why... by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 1

      Preload the food.

      Saves time and it's classy :P

      you can prepay too but that might just be silly.

    2. Re:Why lord why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahaha, a girlfriend, not a wife, a girlfriend! Ditch her and play the game! She can't legally take half of your stuff!

    3. Re:Why lord why... by JamMule · · Score: 1

      So his stuff doesn't have a half-life yet?

    4. Re:Why lord why... by FluffyPanda · · Score: 1

      She's due to become a wife on the 23rd of april next year (yes, 23/4/5 - I shall never forget an anniversary!)

      I'd quite like it to stay that way, but the game is sooooo tempting.

    5. Re:Why lord why... by xneilj · · Score: 1

      I wonder if macdonalds would do...

      Drivethru?

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    6. Re:Why lord why... by Delirium+Tremens · · Score: 1

      Have the ceremony at 1 PM for good measure... 1/23/4/5

    7. Re:Why lord why... by cruelworld · · Score: 1

      Spend $100 and get her an afternoon at the Spa! This way she'll be happy and you'll have precious gaming time!

    8. Re:Why lord why... by Hawke666 · · Score: 1

      Or better yet, 1 AM ....

    9. Re:Why lord why... by telstar · · Score: 1
      I wonder if macdonalds would do...
      • They've got WiFi at my local McDonald's.... Just make sure you let her supersize it! It is her birthday after all.

    10. Re:Why lord why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...did they have to release HL2 on my girlfriend's birthday.

      Just pretend you forgot it's her birthday.

    11. Re:Why lord why... by Kithraya · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's probably some truth in that. Pretending to forget will probably land you in less trouble than admitting you remembered and ditched her anyway for a game.

    12. Re:Why lord why... by dcam · · Score: 1

      My fiance just went away for 4 weeks.

      Timing! :-)

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  49. Re:I guess the idiots are happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its funny how that activation feature was designed to prevent piracy, but since its a hasle, it promotes it.

    It appears that developers need to think "outside-of-the-box" for this and come up with something more effective.

    That or use Open Source ideology!

  50. Played it for 2 hours by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    steam kicked in at 2:04 CST (according to my PC) and the game was decrypted/enabled by 2:15.
    the feel of it is just right.
    (if you get the great idea to whack the combine soldiers with the telephone be prepared to run)

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  51. My impressions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been playing for like two and a half hours straight, possibly an hour more than is healthy for me and I'm about halfway through the (first, only?) river-runner level.

    I have that unpleasant "I've stopped playing but my world-sense is a bit skewed still" feeling that accompanies all good games. So: Half Life 2 is a winner. It's fun, kind of frantic, you know.

    I haven't yet seen what I liked about half life 1 yet apart from the great dialogue.

    And a final thought: nice movies leave me with a 'the world is fantastic' feeling, but games never do. They're all conflict-based and quite negative. Someone should release a happy, immersive game where nothing goes wrong. Just to see what happens.

    1. Re:My impressions by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Like Simcity, The Sims or Roller Coaster Tycoon?

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    2. Re:My impressions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      And a final thought: nice movies leave me with a 'the world is fantastic' feeling, but games never do. They're all conflict-based and quite negative. Someone should release a happy, immersive game where nothing goes wrong. Just to see what happens.

      Find SNES9X and a copy of (English) Chrono Trigger. It takes a long time to play, but if you're looking for a game that leaves you feeling euphoric, I can't recommend it enough.

      No, don't just close this comment and forget about it. Hit google right now, and download it right now. You need to play this game.

    3. Re:My impressions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone should release a happy, immersive game where nothing goes wrong. Just to see what happens.

      That sounds like all the shit games that Nintendo publishes to me.

      "Look at me, I'm a happy little cartoon character, throwing potted plants at another cartoon character, picking up coins from a sewer, with my stereotyped ethnic labourer family member..."

      BTW, what happens is your franchise falls to shit, because most gamers (in NA at least, I can't figure out the Asian market, and their hang up with Anime, super gay) do not dream about being a nice guy in a fantastic world. The publishers appeal to peoples want to be that aggressive "stay the fuck out of his way" guy, who handles situations in a violent manner. It is the dream of all non-alpha males, to get to be the alpha male. Most games are alpha male simulators. Not saying this is good or bad, it just is what it is.

    4. Re:My impressions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not immersive.

    5. Re:My impressions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Played it, clocked it, know exactly what you are talking about. In fact, I went and kicked the big spikey thing's ass before finishing a couple of the time periods. This is the kind of storyline I'd like to see more of.

      But... where's my immersion?

    6. Re:My impressions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So hows your alpha-maleness now? Feeling better? Let me know if you need another easy target to beat your chest and roar over.

      You'd probably make a fantastic game developer. No fucking breadth of imagination at all.

    7. Re:My impressions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      And a final thought: nice movies leave me with a 'the world is fantastic' feeling, but games never do.

      Try playing Katamari Damacy. Pure joy on a PS2! This review even describes it as 'Happiness in a Box'

      http://ps2.ign.com/articles/548/548201p1.html
  52. it's a clone of an old 'BSD is dying' troll by HBI · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    That's all, nothing more.

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    1. Re:it's a clone of an old 'BSD is dying' troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you're both morons: http://www.kottke.org/98/11/my-mac-sucks

      Love,

      A. C.

  53. Call me an idiot, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... I just can't understand what people like in those FPS games. OK, I don't like this kind of games, and I understand that many like them. But please, tell me why?

    1. Re:Call me an idiot, but... by uhlume · · Score: 1

      No.

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    2. Re:Call me an idiot, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... I just can't understand what people like in those FPS games. OK, I don't like this kind of games, and I understand that many like them. But please, tell me why?

      It is a great way to get your aggressions out.

    3. Re:Call me an idiot, but... by Sj0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's because ever since that creepy mannequin arm in Tresspasser, I've yearned to be able to bitchsmack dinosaurs with more and more realistic physics!

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    4. Re:Call me an idiot, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..and I thought I was the only person ever to play that game. yea..it most def had some funky weapon models..

      ancient game. cant even find a torrent of it.

    5. Re:Call me an idiot, but... by pdboddy · · Score: 1

      The dull thud-crunch sound of the Half-Life crowbar smacking someone or something on the head.

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    6. Re:Call me an idiot, but... by Ch_Omega · · Score: 1

      I actually have the cd here. Yes. Original. :)
      Played trough it too, allthough, had to cheat in the final sequence on the mountaintop(with the two allosauruses(?)) to win.

    7. Re:Call me an idiot, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Best game moment ever...I'm watching a roommate play Trespasser. He kills a raptor. He's annoyed with his lack of ammo, so he walks up the hill next to the raptor and starts beating it with a stick. He dislodges it, it rolls downhill, over him, and HE DIES.

      That's right. He died via a dead raptor corpse.

      I'm hoping to recreate this somewhere in HL2.

  54. Expect no meaningful comments . . .today by Tetsugaku-San · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The only people commenting on this article are the people who either
    • can't play cos they are at work
    • can't play cos they don't believe in online activation
    • can't play because their machine plays slower than a ZX81
    Me? I'm at work :'( I'd stamp my feet if my coworkers weren't mysteriously all away today . . . . .
    1. Re:Expect no meaningful comments . . .today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Know exactly how you feel. It's just gone 11AM here and this is real torture. Fortunately, I've got a bit of a flexitime surplus (yay for not working in the IT field and hence actually getting decent terms and conditions), so I'll be vanishing off home at about 3PM, hopefully.

      Until then, I'll have to get back to chewing my keyboard in frustration.

    2. Re:Expect no meaningful comments . . .today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too :( Going home in 20 though :D

      ~Squink

    3. Re:Expect no meaningful comments . . .today by Danse · · Score: 1

      You forgot one...

      • can't play cos Steam is a piece of shit and is incapable of handling the number of people that Valve KNEW they were going to have to deal with.


      I'm pissed, and so are a LOT of others judging by the posts on the various HL2 forums. Valve screwed its customers over pretty good this time.
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  55. From Mexico by ender1598 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Suprnova release in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...

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    1. Re:From Mexico by Zorilla · · Score: 2, Informative

      ...0....-1....-2.....-3

      Nothing. Whatever strategy Valve may have planned (speculating) seems to be working beautifully. Craploads of fake HL2 files on ed2k which are mostly porn site rips, but some which are other games disguised as HL2 - usually UT2004. The Steam crack is actually nothing but a virus and there is nothing but the beta to be seen on torrent sites.

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    2. Re:From Mexico by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      ???
      What the fuck are you smoking.
      It will take about 6-18 hours to be cracked, spread via irc and then on torrent.
      Fakes and "crack" viruses exist for every game, but of course if the real game isnt released, you can only find fake files...
      when did YOU search for it, btw, and why? (as you are such an expert in searching for warez HL2?)

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    3. Re:From Mexico by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a disclaimer - I will definitely buy a copy of the game if I find out I like it. (Thinking about buyer's remorse from Doom 3).

      eDonkey2000 will provide a warning in the form of a "!" in a red circle next to the filename if it has reason to think it's a fake. If there are a significant number of peers you are transferring from who show a different filename than you do, that's pretty good proof it's a fake.

      Secondly, no torrent sites appear to be providing the downloads at all.

      But I must be some kind of idiot for thinking HL2 should be availible already. It's not like Doom 3 was availible several days before the release date. (The Steam activation is immaterial - the Doom 3 keygen was provided in the advanced release)

  56. WINEX! by DMJC-L · · Score: 0

    mate of mine got Coutnerstrike source to run in cedega... HL2 may work... either way i'm too poor :( $5.00 away from being able to afford it ..*sniff*

  57. Re:Don't buy HL2!!! by VocabularyNazi · · Score: 0

    where in the fuck do you freaks come from ??

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  58. Patience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is a virtue.. Give it about 2 weeks for all the single player hype to die down... Then everyones gonna focus on the MP aspect ('replayability') - which thus far has proven to be quite a let down (ref: CSS, et al) - and then we're all gonna sit back and wait for the official release of CS2.

    I personally refuse to buy this game until theres a new CS out that runs natively on the Source engine (because playing de_dust2 under Source, albeit pretty, is still the same old shit - better graphics, lower FPS - no thanks.)

    back to CS for me, bye! :)

  59. Linux by Kirth · · Score: 3, Funny

    And what the hell am I going to do with that? Does it at least run in wine/cedega? Or does it look like this:
    - Half Live 2: 59$
    - Windows: 250$
    - Having to repartition harddisk: fuck you.
    Even the additional cost of windows (Microsoft-Tax), is very discouraging, but the general behaviour of said operating system raises the cost even more. I can't for instance just install windows on the third disk.
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    1. Re:Linux by Boeboe · · Score: 0

      if you were a gamer, you would at least have a dualboot system...you really weren't expecting to run each and every game trough some freeware directx emulator I hope?

    2. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Psst ... I don't think anyone cares. ;-) You chose to install Linux, no one forced you. Quit your bitching. With your choice came many disadvantages.

    3. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you crying at the moment ?

    4. Re:Linux by CortoMaltese · · Score: 3, Funny
      An alternative looks like this:

      • Half Life 2 (X-Box): 59$
      • X-Box: 149$
      • Having to wait until May, 2005: fuck you.

      But hey, at least the Microsoft-Tax is 100$ smaller!

    5. Re:Linux by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      cedega isn't freeware.

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    6. Re:Linux by bleachboy · · Score: 1

      No. It goes like this:

      - Half Life 2: $59
      - New P4 box: $1200

      You just pirate Windows, like all good Slashdotters. KVM switchbox optional, but recommended.

    7. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you compile from cvs it is

  60. Cedega Support by detain · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cedega should support it if it doesnt already, last time i looked it almost ran counter strike source fine and it might run it in cvs by now. Its entireyl OpenGL i heard to help combat hacks (i hear opengl is easier to work with when writing hacks?). Either way great fucking job been playing it last 2 hours its incredible. I feel this is a valid reason to take off work tomorrow and my boss will understand.. im sure of it....yeah..

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    1. Re:Cedega Support by TCM · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Apart from your lack of clue regarding hacks and OpenGL and re: your sig:

      Can you fix this?
      $ dig -x 66.45.228.110

      ;; ANSWER SECTION:
      110.228.45.66.in-addr.arpa. 1D IN PTR misha.trouble-free.net.228.45.66.in-addr.arpa.

      ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
      228.45.66.in-addr.arpa. 1D IN NS dns4.interserver.net.
      228.45.66.in-addr.arpa.&nbs p; 1D IN NS dns5.interserver.net.
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  61. Re:Playing it now *WOW* by DerWulf · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry, the game can't be that great if people stop after 1/2 hour, 1 hour or even two hours to come to slashdot and tell everyone about it ... when I get my copy, I won't be on /. for quite a while ...

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  62. Re:Don't buy HL2!!! by goatan · · Score: 1

    Hell yeh and all those race drivers should be forced to be ambulance drivers and fire truck drivers. Or maybe in the real world the skills required and the attitude to the job are different, like the difference between writing viruses and anti virus it's rare for someone to be good at both. Welcome to the real world some people are good at some things whilst being bad at another even in a realated field. If your cousin is real rather than a figment of your imagination he needed help anyway if losing a death match sent him into catatonic despair, but more likely he is fake and you have the problems.

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  63. Dog, Throw something Big! by dala24 · · Score: 1

    Lol, tell me what you think when you here those magic words in this amazing world. You can quite literally play with anything and everything in the world... i was flapping shutters and knocking on the walls... just wow!

    and i'm not even experiencing in full glory

    800x600 med settings
    on FX5200

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  64. Downloading it now.... by pdboddy · · Score: 0

    w00t! I've been playing Counter Strike: Source for weeks now, can't wait to get home from work to play HL2. 30% completed...

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    1. Re:Downloading it now.... by pdboddy · · Score: 0

      Woohoo! 80%!!

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  65. HL System requirements... by pagal_paanda · · Score: 0

    With all the buzz and everything, GameWinners has the minimum system requirements listed for people without the spare cash for faster rigs. That means, we still could run the came(barely), unlike some other games *cough*doom3*cough*

  66. Required Specs? by mr_snarf · · Score: 1

    Now that people with normal rigs are playing this, I have to decide if I should buy the game or not, based on my current system.

    P4, 2.0Ghz, 1024meg of pc2700 ram (cheapy stuff), gf4ti4600.

    Will I be able to play HL2 and enjoy it?

    Also, which do you think would run better (I'm sure someone out there knows what this game likes), 2.0Ghz w/ 1024ram or 2.666Ghz w/ 512 ram? I ask cuz I can't seem to OC with the new stick of ram I chucked in, but I can without it :\

    STill have exams, have to wait till saturday to play anyway, nooo!

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    1. Re:Required Specs? by Jestrzcap · · Score: 1

      I've been playing all morning on a similar system (2.06ghz AMD, 1024 pc3200 ram, gf4ti4200) and its been very enjoyable. Have fun on Sat!

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    2. Re:Required Specs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If anything I would say it is your video card holding you back, but it should be playable.

    3. Re:Required Specs? by MHoffSilver · · Score: 1

      Running on 2.4P4 1Gig of pc2700 and GF4Ti4200 So far it has been running quite smooth on 1024*768 Enjoy your saturday - It will hopefully be great fun. Oh btw - GL on the exams.

    4. Re:Required Specs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the info, I have a gf4ti4200, 1024MB RAM, I guess I'll get the game soon.

    5. Re:Required Specs? by pdboddy · · Score: 1

      My machine is slightly inferior to yours, and the game runs great! I've been playing the Counter Strike: Source, and I gave the HL2 game a whirl before leaving for work this morning. I'm running an AMD 2200+, 512meg of pc3200 ram, and an ATI Radeon 9600 SE. I figure if I had another 512 stick of ram, it would run perfectly.

      For the life of me though, I couldn't find the specs for the game at it's website.

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    6. Re:Required Specs? by eric_brissette · · Score: 1

      I would say the extra RAM would make more of a difference than the boost in processor speed. Of course, you would see the best improvement after switching to a DX9 capable video card, but that wasn't one of the choices.

  67. Planned Obsolence by Lucky_Norseman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As soon as the server is taken down, no one will ever be able to install HL2 again.

    Thus copyright on HL2 is forever.

    And as soon as they want their users to switch to HL3 they can pull the plug on HL2.

    1. Re:Planned Obsolence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just install the cracked evrsion, stupid.

      NOTE: only do this if you live in a free country; US-citizens are out of luck here

    2. Re:Planned Obsolence by JAgostoni · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is this accurate? Do they not plan on releasing a retail boxed version that does not need activation (via steam)? That would be a pitiful thing to see. I always liked id's product key idea where you cannot play multiplayer if you have an invalid or duplicated key so prior to any decent keygens nobody would ever give out their key. We were more than willing to share the media but we kept our keys locked up tight. Now if HL2 is committed to online activation that would be a slap across the face of the legit customers.

    3. Re:Planned Obsolence by Schnapple · · Score: 4, Informative
      Is this accurate? Do they not plan on releasing a retail boxed version that does not need activation (via steam)? That would be a pitiful thing to see. I always liked id's product key idea where you cannot play multiplayer if you have an invalid or duplicated key so prior to any decent keygens nobody would ever give out their key. We were more than willing to share the media but we kept our keys locked up tight. Now if HL2 is committed to online activation that would be a slap across the face of the legit customers.
      You do have to activate it online - not sure if the installation stops you cold (I doubt it since as early as Saturday I saw screenshots of installations in progress) but you do have to "activate" it to play. However, remember that id Software took out the need to authenticate Quake 3 in a patch once the retail effectiveness of that game was done. I'm sure that Valve will do the same - especially if VUG pulls something. Valve will probably do a "FU VUG" patch at some point. Plus, with the mint they make off of this game, they can keep activation servers around forever...

      From what I hear though the game's DRM is pretty lenient. You can install on as many PC's as you like, they just can't use the same key simultaneously. This isn't activation in the "Windows XP" sense of the word.

      I do recall that at one point the plan was to release a less expensive single player only version of the game "to the Costcos of the world" that couldn't run mods, etc. Perhaps that's the version which won't need activation (assuming it ever comes out)

    4. Re:Planned Obsolence by Fembot · · Score: 1

      Also remember that originaly half-life required you had the cd in the drive to play. Some patch (I forget which) removed this requirement.

      Alan

    5. Re:Planned Obsolence by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      *I'm sure that Valve will do the same - especially if VUG pulls something. Valve will probably do a "FU VUG" patch at some point.*

      which point in *REAL* *TIME* would that be? valve hasn't done that for it's 1998 game yet even nor doesn't really seem to be about to do it(nor are they exactly helpful with the many problems with hl1 keys people have, the open-a-shrinkwrapped-hl1/cs-copy-and-the-key-is-al ready-in-use kind of problems). valve has proven previously that it's all for milking the cow as long as possible and fighting for the last piece of money available(cybercafe semi-extortions and so on - you think it's enough that you just buy the games? hell no.).

      and will they be keeping the servers around "forever"? hell no, even the best game companies go belly-under repeatedly and do 're-focusing' and other kind of organizational changes that would have them dropping support for a years old game. making big mint more than often has lead to the company dissolving too, as the core guys leave for other projects elsewhere with their newly acquired money.

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    6. Re:Planned Obsolence by StM.Rawder · · Score: 0

      valve hasn't done that for it's 1998 game yet even nor doesn't really seem to be about to do it(nor are they exactly helpful with the many problems with hl1 keys people have, the open-a-shrinkwrapped-hl1/cs-copy-and-the-key-is-al ready-in-use kind of problems).

      My brother had exactly this problem. He bought a copy of HL1 from a reputable vendor site, but from an individual. The box was shrinkwraped. The key didnt work, it was already in use. He sent emails to the person who sold the game and to valve. They actually both sent him new working keys in about 1 day.

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    7. Re:Planned Obsolence by eyeye · · Score: 1

      As soon as the server is taken down, no one will ever be able to install HL2 again.


      Or as soon as someone DOSes it.
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    8. Re:Planned Obsolence by NuclearDog · · Score: 1

      The 1.1.1.0 patch supplied by Valve will remove the requirement for the CD, although earlier patches may do this, too.

      ND

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    9. Re:Planned Obsolence by Mystic8277 · · Score: 1

      Just Id's games? A lot of online games have that CD key protection.

    10. Re:Planned Obsolence by JAgostoni · · Score: 1

      Indeed they do but for most CD Key-based games I have seen people more than willing to share their keys. However in online multiplayer games, like id's games) people are much more reluctant to share their keys for fear that they will invalidate their own copy of the game (or at least their use of the game). Of course, that simply breeds newer/better keygens but the really effective keygens seem to lag the release of the game by some amount of time.

    11. Re:Planned Obsolence by Snaller · · Score: 1

      However, remember that id Software took out the need to authenticate Quake 3 in a patch once the retail effectiveness of that game was done. I'm sure that Valve will do the same -


      I don't - that would require morals.


      especially if VUG pulls something. Valve will probably do a "FU VUG" patch at some point.


      fu vug meaning?


      Plus, with the mint they make off of this game, they can keep activation servers around forever...


      Which they won't of course, aftre all you haven't bought a game you have bought the right to license a cd key for a while.

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  68. Re:Playing it now *WOW* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'd think

    But I deliberatly try and break it up as some sort of rationing maschocism - it really does seem to be this good

  69. Just wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone will, if they haven't already, release a program which pretends to be steam. There have been numerous examples of this in the past.

    1. Re:Just wait by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 0
      Someone will, if they haven't already, release a program which pretends to be steam. There have been numerous examples of this in the past.

      That's fine for the unsavory characters, but how about the law abiding people who want to play it? Why do they assume my gaming computer even has a network card in it? I could do updates via burning thm to CD-Rs or other removable media. Steam was the worst decision Valve ever made and it completely killed Counter-strike. Looks like it'll kill Half-Life 2, for me at least.

    2. Re:Just wait by Sigma-X · · Score: 1

      "completely killed Counter-Strike." If you were playing Counter-Strike, you have an internet connection. Quit bitching just because they're trying to protect their investment from people who steal software. As someone who has been playing HL2 for about 3:30 hours already, I can say it's honestly worth the $50.

    3. Re:Just wait by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Get over yourself, basically.

      Games have had copy protections that legitimate users have had to crack for ages. From the uncopyable Lemmings disk, to these endless serial numbers(Yes, I lost the cd cover for half-life, does that make me a bad person?), to two or three CD games which demand that you keep the CDs around, even if you have a huge hard drive.

      Only suckers play the games the way they've been told. A life without sorting through CDs is a good one, let me assure you of that.

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    4. Re:Just wait by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 0

      They haven't passed a law yet saying that it's illegal to build a program that pretends to be steam.

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    5. Re:Just wait by FictionPimp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      its safe to assume everyone with a good pc has a internet connection, but its not safe to assume anyeone with a $200+ video card has a dvd player?

    6. Re:Just wait by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      You know, that is one of the things that make playing games in Linux most enjoyable. No stupid use of CDROMs as dongles. Doom3- don't need the CDs after installing. NeverwinterNights- again don't need the CD. All the Loki games- don't need the CD. Then there is a number of games that don't even have cds.

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    7. Re:Just wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Oh, like say the DMCA?

    8. Re:Just wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up!

    9. Re:Just wait by DerWulf · · Score: 1

      amazingly, it goes for 39 here in germany. Thats about 6-10 euros cheaper than other games, including the not so new Ranbow Six 3 and not so hot Real Cockpit (FS rip-off). I hope the other publishers can take the hint: profit through numbers and price level != quality level.

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    10. Re:Just wait by DerWulf · · Score: 1

      yes, its not illegal, its just hard. Especially for those 'leet' 'programmers' that can do barely more than hooking a debugger into a games process to find out which function to replace to remove the cd check. If you haven't heard it yet, the steam content is decrypted. 'Pretenting' to be steam won't cut it, kiddo ...

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    11. Re:Just wait by DerWulf · · Score: 1

      In germany, where I life, I only saw DVD versions of the game. I'm suspecting I might have shelled out 40 for a fake version, though .. well I'll see tonight.

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    12. Re:Just wait by DerWulf · · Score: 1

      sorry, I meant 'encrypted' not 'decrypted'. I'm just sooo excited, forgive me.

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    13. Re:Just wait by Honig+the+Apothecary · · Score: 1
      Steam Game Stats
      Yeah ripped CounterStrike out and stomped that sucker flat........2.919 BILLION player mintues a month is a dead game.

      I'm sure Valve will be fine without your $49.00 Bronze package fee. You will be missing out on a wonderful game experence. Enjoy TuxRacer!

    14. Re:Just wait by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      That's the normal price for PC games. At least when you buy from the right retailers (Media Markt).

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    15. Re:Just wait by Valegor · · Score: 1

      This does not effect me anymore, But I am still very annoyed by it. You cannot get broadband everywhere, so those with a dial up connection(me a couple months ago) will have to connect just to install the game. They will have to go through the hassle of creating a steam account(which takes a while to do on a dial-up) just to play the single player game. By all means impliment this in the multiplayer, but the single player should not require that.

      I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone complaining about the lack of a manual. I was looking forward to reading that in the bathroom at work today to hold me over until I can get home to install the game.

    16. Re:Just wait by DerWulf · · Score: 1

      hmm ... hab im Media Makt gekauft, deswegen war ich ja erstaunt das dort eines der billigsten aktuellen spiele gleichzeitig auch das neuste und beste ist ;)

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    17. Re:Just wait by gweedoz · · Score: 1

      Open the PDF manual that comes with the game, print as desired. I never cease to be amazed at how much whining goes on here.

      You people are acting like a bunch of noob users. "I can't believe I have to push two keys at the same time to make that bold!... Why don't they include a bold key with the program?"

    18. Re:Just wait by Khaotix · · Score: 1

      This whole cd release thing has got to go. Modern releases should all be DVD. A DVD-rom will run all of $20 or so. If you can shell out $50 for a video game then I don't think another $20 will hurt that much.

      The primary reason I preloaded is because I didn't want to screw with swapping cds when the time came.

    19. Re:Just wait by Valegor · · Score: 1

      That implies that one comes with the game. The cds are in my car so I do not know for sure either way. Every comment I have seen from Valve when asked about a manual simply said that one would not be included and that you could buy the official prima Strategy guide.

      If anyone knows for sure whether there is a PDF manual on the cd please post a reply. If that is the case I will run out to my car to get the cds. If that is not the case I will do without and still love the game, but I will not buy a prima strategy guide. I agree that there is far too much whining on Slashdot, but in this case Valve has made some questionable business decisions and the whining is legitimate. It does not take away from the game itself though(unless you are on dial-up).

    20. Re:Just wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My laptop doesn't have an Internet connection when I'm on a plane. Does yours? I mean, Jesus fucking Christ this just wooshes over your head doesn't it? Making copy protection rely on network connectivity is just a BAD idea.

    21. Re:Just wait by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

      What, the DMCA makes pretending illegal, now? Round up the cast of Sesame Street, they're all going to jail!

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    22. Re:Just wait by gweedoz · · Score: 1

      I know for sure, which is why I replied as I did. I've printed it, and sat on the toilet reading it even.

    23. Re:Just wait by Valegor · · Score: 1

      Glad to hear I am not the only one that does that.

    24. Re:Just wait by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      You do not need to connect to the internet every time, once you are connected, if you check remember login and password, it will allow the game to run in "off-line" mode.

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    25. Re:Just wait by Valegor · · Score: 1

      Which CD is the manual on? I can't seem to find it.

    26. Re:Just wait by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Daemon-tools is my freind. :)

      It's not illegal(where I live, at least), and it's a nice way to be able to not be at the mercy of game developers who refuse to make games easy to run!

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    27. Re:Just wait by TobyIRC · · Score: 1

      Ever heard of BnetD then sir?

  70. Re:I guess the idiots are happy by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 1

    Well, it's against Valve's EULA to sell Steam accounts, but of course that doesn't stop people from doing it.

    Though there have been many reports about people on Ebay getting burned with fake/fraudlent Steam accounts.

    N.

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  71. I thought Half Life was over rated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do not know what the big hype was about. I got stuck in an area and stopped playing it. I kept running around in circles. I could have looked up gamefaqs to find out what to do next but I did not like the game that much.

  72. holy crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    holy crap hell just frooze over!

  73. WHAT A COINCIDENCE! by JollyFinn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now it has taken ALMOST 2 hours since this came online, and no other stories in slashdot coming. Is this coincidence, or is there some correlation between those too.

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    1. Re:WHAT A COINCIDENCE! by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, I'm sure all stories submitted between 12:00 and 12:05 have been accepted and put in a queue to be released once an hour. Now let's hope that part of the Slashcode doesn't have a bug that causes something to go wrong. (Bugs in Slashcode, noooooo)

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  74. Does not look like real water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks like how painters depict mirror images reflected on water.

  75. No Linux, no money. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry guys. As a Linux user I'll be happy to spend those 60 bucks for a native version of HL2, but until that moment I'm prepared to wait long months to get a useable "free" windows version.

  76. Not at all happy by TeddyBare · · Score: 1
    Ok, not happy. I'm on early shift today, and was playing CSS last night and someone said the launch had been delayed. So off to bed I go, come to work this morning, and find out I was lied to.

    Now I'm here, can't lie about needing to go home, and when I get home, I have to clear up the devastation in 3 rooms redecorating causes to get to my PC to be able to play.

    Life can't get much worse than this.

    Oh, hang on, feeling faint... have a headache.... spots before my eyes.... erm... bye... need to find my boss and go the hell out of here.....

    /me goes to find water to put on forehead to look sickly.....

    1. Re:Not at all happy by ender- · · Score: 1

      Don't worry about it. The Steam servers are "steaming piles of ...." at this point so you wouldn't be able to play anyway.
      No rush :)

  77. Tech support - I hope not by Animaether · · Score: 1

    Although I commend Valve for helping out should they happen to catch a user in trouble on an un-official forum, I feel that I should point out that I hope this doesn't become an expected thing.

    Most developers have a support forum / e-mail where users can be helped as quickly as possible. It doesn't benefit tech support if they have to start roaming other forums. In fact, it's the proverbial slippery slope - today it's Shacknews, tomorrow it may be some more obscure forum, and next week they're hiring chinese-capable staff to start hunting down lost users on chinese forums.

    Official support should certainly not be expected, but in my humble opinion not encouraged either, on un-official forums/mailing lists/etc.

    Should a user still want to post in an un-official location, then the support they should expect to get is peer-support. If those peers can't resolve the issue, then the right place to go is the official support areas, rather than wondering why the developer isn't reading the thread.

    Just my 2 cts, as I've been there.

    1. Re:Tech support - I hope not by TheLoneDanger · · Score: 1

      I don't think this is a normal case. This is a game that they have slaved over and that they KNOW everyone is waiting for and will like. I'd say this is about a bunch of guys who are damned PROUD of their game and actually truly do want everyone to experience it, seems they can't even stand to think someone who wants to play it (and has paid for it) can't. Frankly, I think it's a breath of fresh air to see guys so proud of their game work and truly caring about their audience.

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    2. Re:Tech support - I hope not by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      They did start out by pointing me right at their web-based support feature, which is actually pretty cool in itself (part of the overlap was that a dev contacted me directly AND I was working through the support forum). I think the devs are just excited as all heck to see their baby finally hit the streets, and they want to make extra sure that everyone can enjoy it.

    3. Re:Tech support - I hope not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well.... they're trying out a new and controversial distribution/activation mechanism. If Steam works out, it will make Valve a metric fuckload of money, as well as being a good thing for (most) of their customers.

      The last thing Valve wants at this stage is bad publicity, so it's understandable that their developers are going the extra mile to deal with problems right now. Think of it this way: everybody playing HL2 is part of an experiment that really, really needs to succeed in order to put distributors like Vivendi out of everyone's misery.

    4. Re:Tech support - I hope not by MattBurke · · Score: 1

      It's probably more about caring for their baby than their audience. As a coder I know when you've worked on something for so long then it comes up to crunch time, it HAS to work. It's not a work matter, it's totally personal - the product is a direct reflection of YOU. If there were a serious bug in it that affected say 1% of users, I'd bet those guys would have stayed up all night and released a patch immediately :)

      As it is, HL2 works flawlessly for me and I'm happy to report my adrenalin level has been through the roof all day :D

  78. Re:I guess the idiots are happy by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
    What if you have other steam content?

    This came up for me last night when I purchaced HL2. I created a new Stream account for HL2 and the other mods it provided. I already have 3 or 4 HL licenses, so I wanted to set it up so that I could use one of the retro ones along side the new one for LAN parties.

    This is a big downside of the system, if the user is not aware of this. I own HL and HL2 licenses, but having them both in the same steam account means you can't play head-to-head using them.

  79. You are all sheep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What happens if Valve goes out of business?

    None of you will be able to play the game you just paid $50+ for.

    I mean, it's not likely they'll go out of business tomorrow, but what about next quarter or next year? Do you know the financial condiftion of Valve? How do you know they're not barely staying afloat and this lawsuit with Vivendi is going to push them over the edge?

    Or, perhaps Vivendi will be able to get a court to force Valve to shut down the authorization servers. What will you do then?

    I can't believe people are so willing to become such good little consumer/servants of their corporate masters in exchange for a bit of fun.

    1. Re:You are all sheep. by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      The software will become incompatible with the OS of the future and the game servers dead long before somebody finds a way to work around Steam activation. This game is way too popular for anybody to ignore this possibility you speak of.

      Doom still runs to this day because plenty of people have provided source ports that allow it to run in Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, etc. and have transformed it into a client/servel network play model to work in TCP/IP as opposed to 1994's IPX, modem and null cable connections.

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    2. Re:You are all sheep. by JohnCub · · Score: 1

      This theory you have could be applied to any number of consumer commodities. If we lived life by your theory we would never leave our house, we'd all have stockpiles of gasoline and generator parts and we would live a very different lifestyle than we do now. Yes, game companies have closed shop in the past, and people have been burned on buying their games to find they have no servers to authenticate with or play on. I've had this happen to me and it is one of the most basic principles of life. All of life is a gamble. If you don't gamble you don't live life to its fullest extent.

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    3. Re:You are all sheep. by Mant · · Score: 0, Troll

      If it is just a bit of fun, then isn't that all you would lose in the unlikely event of Valve vanishing, with no patch to remove the one time authentication?

      Even then, it would only apply to people reinstalling, not existing installations of the game.

      Anyway, you make it sound like people are giving up some fundemetal human right or invasion of privacy. They aren't, just $50 and having to authenticate.

    4. Re:You are all sheep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, and that's exactly because iD gave out the source to the engine. The only thing you can't legally get free are the commercial WADs.

      Will Valve open-source the HL engine when/if HL3 comes out?

  80. Anybody with early reviews/impressions?? by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 0, Troll

    I got burned with Doom 3, don't want to make another $50 mistake. Is the game a resource hog, can the average system run it in XGA?

  81. Re:Hell yea! by tcdk · · Score: 1

    Yeah! Halo 2, WoW Beta, and now Half-Life 2! Say good bye to my GPA!

    What's this GPA you are talking about? Grand Pheft Auto? Is it any good?

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  82. Ironic... by Julien+Brub · · Score: 1

    Remember the train ride at the very beginning of Half-Life (1) ?

    The security guy, Barney, welcomed you saying: "You came in late, this morning, Mr. Freeman, but finally, you're there..."

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  83. Its not here for me yet by elhedran · · Score: 1

    Are they staggering when and where they unlock it? Its still locked for me...

    Bah, waited this long, I think I can handle one more day.

    1. Re:Its not here for me yet by elhedran · · Score: 1

      Oh, you need to restart steam, apparently.

      90%, 92%, come on, finish already...

      YES! Its unlooking....

      and I don't have to be anywhere or do anything (except sleep) for at least the next 11 hours :)

  84. Re:I guess the idiots are happy by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

    That's always the way; every copy protection scheme is cracked, usually within days, so it only hurts the legitimate users.

  85. Re:I guess the idiots are happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The EULA is not legally binding except for the US (and similar UCITA countries).

  86. What about... by Craig+Ringer · · Score: 1

    My bet was on Duke Nukem Forever :-P

  87. Motion sickness? by sgant · · Score: 1

    Anyone else getting motion sick from playing this?

    I've played for about an hour and had to take a break because I was getting motion sickness for some strange reason.

    And before anyone gets out their "Jump to Conclusions" mat, I've been playing CS:source for about a month and regular CS before that, played all through Doom3 and finished it, am on the WoW beta, just re-finished playing HL1 to get me back in the mood of the storyline...all without any problems.

    Perhaps it's just me...

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    1. Re:Motion sickness? by ratbag · · Score: 1

      I've suffered motion sickness/vertigo symtoms on each FPS I've tried since Quake. After ten minutes with TimeSplitters I felt physically sick. Yet I can play 3rd-person games, flight sims, racing games etc. without any symptoms. I guess with an FPS the whole screen is changing all the time.

    2. Re:Motion sickness? by Leffe · · Score: 1

      Same thing happened to me... of course, I continued playing for some hours :). It's only this game though, must be the pawning graphics ^_______^'

      Hmm... maybe it's low FPS? Can't that cause it too... although I get a lower FPS in CS:S of course...

    3. Re:Motion sickness? by clontzman · · Score: 1

      I'm with you on TimeSplitters 2. I've been playing FPS's since Wolfenstein and I had to trade-in TimeSplitters because I was ready to ralf after an hour of playing. Never could figure out why that is, though...

    4. Re:Motion sickness? by tricops · · Score: 1

      Too bad, that was a pretty fun game multiplayer. Flaming monkeys!

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    5. Re:Motion sickness? by cmpalmer · · Score: 1

      Some of it usually has to do with visual realism and how much you are into the game.

      I've occasionally gotten motion sick playing HL:1, but never did playing Doom, Quake, or Unreal.

      My all time stomach churner was Descent II -- even with the (now) chunky graphics, that game would get me motion sick all the time. I tried to load it out of nostalgia a few weeks ago and couldn't get it to work on XP. I found a few hints and hack sites, but it seemed like too much trouble. That's a game I would like to see with a new graphics engine. Is there anything similar?

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    6. Re:Motion sickness? by Wandering+Idiot · · Score: 1

      That's a game I would like to see with a new graphics engine. Is there anything similar?

      A bit on the nose perhaps, but... Descent 3?

    7. Re:Motion sickness? by Brian_Confucius · · Score: 1

      Descent 3 did nothing but profane the memory of the great and hallowed Descent 2!

    8. Re:Motion sickness? by Brian_Confucius · · Score: 1

      I played the Descent 2 demo on Windows XP without hacks, only everything in the game happened three times as fast (player speed and firing rate went up, enemy movement speed as well, and even the rotating power-ups were spinning aroud like eggbeaters.) No game had gotten me motion sick before that, but I was definately queasy after just a few minutes.

    9. Re:Motion sickness? by Erik+Hollensbe · · Score: 1

      I quit playing Doom 3 because I thought I was going to have a damned heart attack if I kept going.

      I can't wait to get to HL2.

    10. Re:Motion sickness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While the single player makes me slightly sick when I'm tired, I've never had that problem with multiplayer, even after having not slept for 36 hours.

  88. Steam is just a bunch of hot air by Kevin108 · · Score: 0

    I am totally disappointed in the Steam delivery of HL2. I had everything pre-loaded as of last night. At 7:00 am EST I start unlocking HL2. I'm on a 3 meg cable line. It's taken 30 mins to hit 40%. Bogus. So much for playing before work...

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    1. Re:Steam is just a bunch of hot air by PerspexAvenger · · Score: 2, Informative

      Check what your system's doing - if it's anything like what others are seeing (and me), and it's preloaded right there'll be practically no network traffic and your HDD will be thrashing like a mad thing as it decrypts.
      If that's not the case... you need to restart Steam more often in the future so it picks up the updates. :/

  89. Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I get up at 3AM EST to unlock it and play for two hours, and now I'm stuck in work... From what I've seen so far this will blow away everything else out there and compliment HL1 very well. My only concern now is that will it be long enough? I was already through three chapters in two hours and from the looks of it there are only 15 chapters. (Yeah, I realize now that it would be something like 10+ hours, but compared to HL1 that's not a lot....)

  90. Read the requirements... by LinuxGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful
    HL2 Minimum System Configuration

    1.2 GHz Processor
    256MB RAM
    DirectX 7 capable graphics card
    Windows 2000/XP/ME/98
    Mouse
    Keyboard
    Internet Connection


    Is it Valve's fault if you cannot read?
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    1. Re:Read the requirements... by stanmann · · Score: 2, Informative

      Where does THIS say ANYTHING about internet connection?

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    2. Re:Read the requirements... by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1
      What? An Amazon blurb about a product isn't complete? Shocking!


      (please note for the sarcasm impaired, this happens quite a bit...)

    3. Re:Read the requirements... by twofidyKidd · · Score: 1

      Why the hell would you be looking at anything from Amazon if you didn't have an Internet connection? Some common sense please.

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    4. Re:Read the requirements... by stanmann · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have teh intarweb at werk and my bosses let me use it during my lunch break. but my computar at home doesn't use de phone, I don't use de fone at home I have wirles for my ony fone and it don't connect to my computar. but I have de intarweb on it too.

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    5. Re:Read the requirements... by tepples · · Score: 1

      Why the hell would you be looking at anything from Amazon if you didn't have an Internet connection?

      Because a public library Internet connection allows Amazon but does not allow Half-Life 2.

    6. Re:Read the requirements... by c1one · · Score: 2

      It says nothing of requiring 40MB or download to update steam and HL2. It is also mentioned in the "quick reference card" that there is an "offline" mode, but they don't mention that even after the 40MB update, it doesn't work. I know, I have tried it. I don't like keeping my gaming machine online. Horrible to put paying customer's through this. I am no longer a customer.

    7. Re:Read the requirements... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I went to amazon and managed to buy a book called "the rise and fall of diamonds" about the evil of DeBeers. Amazon had it listed in their catalog as "RISE FALL DIAMONDS", I shit you not. Luckily those were my exact search terms. Expecting amazon to be complete is like expecting the jigsaw puzzle with half the box missing to have all the pieces.

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    8. Re:Read the requirements... by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      Well, it is on Amazon.com - I don't plan on getting there via pigeon datagrams.

      (Yeah, just joking. I know the possibilities where this logic could go wrong)

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    9. Re:Read the requirements... by PygmySurfer · · Score: 1

      Where does THIS say ANYTHING about internet connection?

      Well, if Amazon can't list the requirements correctly, that's their fault, not Valve's or Vivendi's.

      The box clearly states an internet connection is required.

    10. Re:Read the requirements... by Wizzzbit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In those terms I consider myself to have an internet connection, but I agree with the first poster. I'm at university with an 'Internet Connection' in my room provided via the uni LAN (described as an Internet Connection by the uni), I have no phone connection though. The internet connection is heavily firewalled, with a default-deny policy and all web traffic having to go via their proxy. It is impossible to get steam to work and play HL2 despite meeting all the requirements.

    11. Re:Read the requirements... by stanmann · · Score: 1

      EXCEPT, they've had the requirements listed since before they got the boxes, and they got the blurb FROM Valve or Vivendi. That's the way the game works. Amazon doesn't make this stuff up, and they don't copy it off the boxes, they get a blurb from the publishers and put it up.

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    12. Re:Read the requirements... by realdpk · · Score: 1

      However, the box does not "clearly" say anywhere on it that Valve's servers have to be up for the game to work. Nowhere on it does it say "must be registered before it can be played" or "purchasing this box does not authorize you to enjoy the contents unless you like frisbees".

    13. Re:Read the requirements... by sharok · · Score: 1

      Right at the bottom :

      System requirements

      * --Required
      * Windows 98/ME/2000/XP
      * 1.2 Ghz processor
      * 256 MB of RAM
      * DirectX 7 compatible graphics card
      * --Recommended
      * Windows 98/ME/2000/XP
      * 2.4 Ghz processor
      * 512 MB of RAM
      * DirectX 9 enabled graphics card
      * Internet Access

    14. Re:Read the requirements... by stanmann · · Score: 1

      Oh good, they fixed it, OH wait, no they didn't That is **RECOMMENDED**
      Further that has been added since my post, should have quoted as well as linking.

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  91. will have to upgrade by Dr.Opveter · · Score: 0

    i guess the geforce 2 will not do here, if only they would lower the price of the 9800pro cards a bit..

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  92. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The BitTorrent scalability bottleneck is reached as millions of geeks bring down the SuprNova.org BT tracker severs, on what is considered "the biggest simultaneous warez download event" in history.

    Bram Cohen (and half of life on Earth) could not be found for comments.

  93. Good Morning Mr. Freeman... by mcknation · · Score: 1


    Well in case anyone was wondering it did speed up. Most I could get was between 200-250K. However once the files reached 52% I was able to load up the game and play. It is a SMOOTH game. I can't wait to see the mods that come out for this. So basically having bought the game at 4am I was playing it at 6:45 or so. Not so bad once the connection got up to speed. I'm off to newegg to put together a better box. Any suggestions? ;)

    /-McK

  94. pick one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you could only afford one game (halo 2 or half-life 2) which would it be and why?

  95. So now that its finally out by AbsurdProverb · · Score: 0

    Does that mean we should begin the process of holding our breath for HL3. I'm not sure if I'm up for that. Holding it for Team Fortress 2 and Duke Nukem Forever damn near asphyxiated. Not to mention watching this train derail during the course of its "development". I think I'll stick to Halo 2 online for right now. Call me when there are some HL2 mods (other than same old CS) worth a damn.

  96. Dupe? by Vicsun · · Score: 2, Funny

    Haven't I read this story before? I blame the editors.

  97. Re:Hell yea! by Jorkapp · · Score: 1

    So long dental plan!

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  98. Cedega Deserves an Appaluse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Game just came out and it runs pretty well under Cedega (winex).

  99. Over half a decade? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow!! That's a long, long time! What is that, about 5 years?

  100. System requirements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:

    * DVD-ROM: Yes
    * CPU Speed: 2.4GHz
    * CPU Type: Intel Pentium 4
    * Disk Space: 5.5GB
    * Display: DirectX 7 Graphics Card (DirectX 9 Recommended)
    * Memory (RAM): 512MB
    * Operating System Compatibility: Win98/ME/2000/XP, Not Mac Compatible

    This was off the Futureshop.ca website.

    Guess I'm safe from Half Life 2 with only half the processor and half the RAM required. Ah well. I'm getting too old for this anyway. Have fun.

  101. Countdown timer? by Capt_Quirk · · Score: 1

    I unlocked HL2 four hours ago and then happily fired it up to play, only to be faced with a the updating Half-Life2 window. The ready to play countdown made it as far as under 100 minutes. I am sitting here with tears in my eyes watching the ready to play time count up insted of down. 126 minutes and climbing.

  102. Doom III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all the Doom 3 bashing on this site, Id is your only hope for 3d games on linux..

    1. Re:Doom III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hope is darker than I thought then.

  103. Re:Hell yea! by Ionizer7 · · Score: 1

    GPA??? I think you meant GTA!! You were listing new games right?

  104. Re: Steam doesn't mean $ go only to Valve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think about this for second... since you obviously don't know much about game publishing. If you were a publisher and your developer wants to distribute a product via online delivery, do you seriously think any publisher would say "ok" and not expect a single dime of the profits?!

    Valve's publisher has spent and is spending millions on advertising and marketing promotions. Do you SERIOUSLY think that they would not have had the foresight to negotiate a cut of the profits from Steam sales?

  105. Maybe finally time to play Half Life 1? by arhar · · Score: 1

    Half Life CD has been sitting on my shelf for the last few years... maybe now there's a sequel out, it's time for me to play it?

    1. Re:Maybe finally time to play Half Life 1? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or you can buy the silver package from valve and get hl:source wich is hl1 wuth upgraded graphics and engine.

    2. Re:Maybe finally time to play Half Life 1? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, so's mine.. total playing time: 30 minutes. I couldn't figure out how to get out of the first room. The intro looked decent though, from what I remember.

  106. City 17 by Vollernurd · · Score: 1

    Wow! They set the game in a fully rendered Milton Keynes! Yikes!

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  107. Re:GORDON FREEMAN DIES in hl2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    But don't worry, he respawns!

  108. A graphical timeline of my HL2 experience by Jakhel · · Score: 2, Funny

    6:15 am opens steam =|
    6:17 am unlocking game and taking a shower =O
    6: 45 am half life 2 logo comes up =)
    6: 46 am menu screen =..)
    6:50 am starts a new game =D
    6:52 am starts playing =..D
    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
    7:30 am craps his pants =|
    8:02 am takes another shower and gets ready to go to work =(
    9:32 am posts on slashdot

  109. Ahh, back to work, after 3 hours of sleep by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 2

    The game is very very fun. The first 30 minutes I spent just throwing things around, breaking windows, and launching various objects via teeter-totters.

    Steam worked flawlessly, and I hope Valve has a tremendous success with it. Kudos to Valve for designing a good copyright protection system.

    Oh, I know this can piss off a bunch of people who are so concerned about those poor souls without Internet connection (ps. Netzero still has a 10 free hours/month deal), but the system rocks.

    Up yours Vivendi, RIAA, and all others who don't think that distribution via the net is not profitable. Valve got all of my $$ this time around.

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    1. Re:Ahh, back to work, after 3 hours of sleep by horza · · Score: 1

      Oh, I know this can piss off a bunch of people who are so concerned about those poor souls without Internet connection (ps. Netzero still has a 10 free hours/month deal), but the system rocks.

      There are a large number of those without old-fashioned phone lines you know. Growing in fact, as mobile phones are approaching fixed line rates but with obvious extra benefits. Broadband requires not only a fixed line but also minimum one year contract so that's a non-option for many of my friends here who are renting.

      I get incredibly frustrated when on broadband and Steam problems mean I can't place Counterstrike. If I also couldn't play the single-player version then I would be LIVID.

      Phillip.

  110. gamespot's review by prell · · Score: 1

    There's no need to read GameSpot's review: just take IGN's score and subtract 0.5.

  111. Re:Playing it now *WOW* by Digital11 · · Score: 1

    No... It really is THAT good. Unfortunately I'm at work now and only got to play it for 5 hours or so... But they're not kidding. It was well worth the wait.

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  112. counter-strike by LabRat404 · · Score: 0

    my girlfriend lost me to counter-strile for about 4 months. she's very jealous of Half-Life 2 taking me away from her. hehe.

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  113. Grrr, i hate steam allready. by kop · · Score: 0

    I just spent the 60euros for the game and it is now two hours later and the game still won't start.
    It is still downloading and "unlocking" stuff and doing god knows what to my computer.
    Grrr, what a way to treat a customer.
    I should have waited for the torrent : (

    1. Re:Grrr, i hate steam allready. by affliction · · Score: 1

      Did you purchase the download option? Obviously you did. The game is well over 1 gb in size, so I don't know what you expect. It took me about 8 hours total to download it. Of course, I have been using Steam for months now and it has slowly been downloading different parts of the game for the last few weeks. As soon as I get home tonight, it'll be ready for me to go.

      Moral of the story is don't blame Steam for your impatience.

    2. Re:Grrr, i hate steam allready. by kop · · Score: 1

      i should have been more clear, i bought the DVD!
      That is why i am so impatient, i am used to ripping open the packaging and start playing the game! That is how it should be i think.

    3. Re:Grrr, i hate steam allready. by CaptnMArk · · Score: 1

      Are you saying that buying the DVD still requires a net connection for single player ?? :(

    4. Re:Grrr, i hate steam allready. by PhiloHmm · · Score: 1

      You got it - I'm waiting patiently...thought I'd check on slashdot to see what the heck is going on - looks like we're hosed for now. Oh well, back to HALO 2.

    5. Re:Grrr, i hate steam allready. by philsin · · Score: 1

      This is insane I can't create a steam account. It keeps coming back connection refused. The support site for steam is logjammed and they aren't answering phone or email. This is getting very like the Far Cry debacle esp when you consider that there is a w...z out already that doesn't require this stoopid steam. So once agin the crooks are playing and legit customers are not.

    6. Re:Grrr, i hate steam allready. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's the wonderful game, that Value has been hand crafting for years, perfecting the game experience to an art form. Engaging gameplay, challenging AI, beautiful graphics. And, the highest rated game in virtually every magazine/site that reviews games.

      But you CAN'T freaking play it. Steam servers are not available.

      Now, that absolutely unequivocally sucks.

  114. steam overloaded, subscription pending by rrace · · Score: 1

    While its hard NOT to see it coming, I am one of probably thousands of PAYING customers that can't play the game because 'authentication' servers are overloaded.

    I just forked over 100 dollars for the CE version of hl2 and am now greeted by a wonderful 'subscription pending' screen that has been sitting there for over half hour. "sorry for any inconvenience they may cause". Just another example of the paying customers getting royally screwed over.

    THANKS VALVE!

    1. Re:steam overloaded, subscription pending by Zed2K · · Score: 1

      I'm a paying customer and I unlocked it around 8:45 this morning. It took about 15 minutes but it did work just fine.

      Maybe you shouldn't have waited to buy it via steam until the day it was released because everyone else would be trying to unlock on the same day.

    2. Re:steam overloaded, subscription pending by Nimloth · · Score: 0

      You got the CE version? Are you playing the goddamn game on your goddamn Pocket PC?

    3. Re:steam overloaded, subscription pending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I'm playing it in your mom's mouth.

    4. Re:steam overloaded, subscription pending by JohnCub · · Score: 1

      CE = collector's edition.
      Comes on 1 DVD, x-large t-shirt, basic hint book, and a quick reference key chart.

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  115. Rent a PC in NYC for HL2 ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone know of a LAN gaming shop anywhere in NYC where I could rent a PC by the hour to play HL2? I'm fully activated on steam, but on corporate travel for the next 4 months and running a P4 1.7 laptop with the GeforceGO 440 (16MB...)

    Google has helped, but I can't imagine in this humungous city, there's not a high-end LAN gaming cafe!

    1. Re:Rent a PC in NYC for HL2 ??? by JohnCub · · Score: 1
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  116. OSX port by BlueThunderArmy · · Score: 0

    So when can I expect to see this for Mac? Another five years or so? Awesome.

    Seriously, I love HL in college (and HL2 was first meant to come out in my junior year...) but I can't imagine it being as much fun without being able to hear friends shouting four letter and extended four-letter words across three floors of dorm.

  117. Windows for $250? by oldosadmin · · Score: 1

    If you're paying $250 for windows, you're the sucker, buddy.

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  118. On behalf of the women... by gosand · · Score: 2, Funny
    So much for the rest of this college semester. Between this and Halo2, I'll be lucky if I even come in contact with a female during the next 3 months...


    On behalf of all the women at this guy's college: Thank you Half Life 2, thank you Halo 2.

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  119. STEAM vs. CDs, or CDs from STEAM? by WarPresident · · Score: 1

    Is there a facility in STEAM to create CDs of the game(s)? There's nothing in the official FAQ. I'm tempted by STEAM (even though it's probably overloaded), but if I can't make a hardcopy, I'd rather wait until I head out to the mall. Then the decision is DVD edition or CD?

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    1. Re:STEAM vs. CDs, or CDs from STEAM? by Zed2K · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, there is a backup option. You select what you want to backup then it asks you what media you are going to put it on. It then creates files of appropriate size.

      The cd you buy from the store is basically a backup of the steam cache files without a hl2 executable to run the game.

    2. Re:STEAM vs. CDs, or CDs from STEAM? by Cyberop5 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Typing "steam://backup/" into your browser's address bar is supposed to launch the backup utility.

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    3. Re:STEAM vs. CDs, or CDs from STEAM? by JuggleNuts · · Score: 1

      Check out WRGN.net. A friend of mine has made an installation system which allows you to backup your Steam files onto DVD (not just for Half-Life 2, but any other HL games as well). He's currently working on a version which can span multiple CDs for those without DVD burners.

  120. Hahahaha by NitroWolf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hahahaha Steam is so slashdotted...

    Oh wait... maybe it's not slashdot, I suppose it's *MAYBE* possible it's the million people trying to download multimegabyte files to activate HL2?

    Naaa... gotta be slashdot.

  121. Sway.... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

    No seriously.
    If you watch a lot of people playing that kind of came you will see them swaying there heads about, almost like there trying to look behind the monitor, this causes fluid to move around your ... (shit where's greys anatomy when I need it)... and makes your motion senses aggree with you visual senses preventing the motion sickness.

    Try it, next time your about to run around a corner or turn, tilt you head in the direction of movement and swaying you body that way a little helps too.

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    1. Re:Sway.... by sgant · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but the thing is, I've been playing these types of games for YEARS since the original Wolfenstein. Why all of a sudden am I getting motion sickness with this game...while granted is wiz-bang and all, but it's not a dramatic departure from a 1st person shooter.

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    2. Re:Sway.... by ptlis · · Score: 1

      I get it intermittantly when playing FPSs (maybe once every 3 months or so), just take a break and make a coffee, go for a jog or do something away from the computer, return in a couple of hours and you'll probably be fine.

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    3. Re:Sway.... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      Well, the graphics are a lot better and there's a lot more movement, maybe you brain is starting to think that the game is 'real'.

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    4. Re:Sway.... by -Harlequin- · · Score: 1

      Why all of a sudden am I getting motion sickness with this game

      I'm pretty sure HL2 uses a narrower FOV than CS:Source and most other FPS games. Maybe this difference is responsible?

  122. I've only seem the movies.. by oliverthered · · Score: 1

    I've only seem the HL2 preview movies, and it kicks shit.
    Pushing tables infront of doors to make them harder to open, only for the tables to get thrown out of the way (knida GTA3++), beats, it's dark, nothing happned for a while, bet there's some stupid hole that a load of spiders are gonig to come out of. I would be scared, by doom3 if I coudln't predict almost every doom 3 monster before it arrived.

    Doom 3 also bragged that there engine could work with deforming objects, now If I could blast my way through walls, instead of following a very linea route then Doom 3 would be much more fun.

    I havn't even finished doom3 yet, and I've got time to post here, can't you tell I'm gripped.

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    1. Re:I've only seem the movies.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why, do you use, so many, commas?

    2. Re:I've only seem the movies.. by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      lung.... cancer.

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  123. Quake I had horrible levels... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go back and check it again. It doesn't have any excellent levels. It was designed before Quake started using the look-with-mouse, move with keyboard controls (that Bungie introduced with Marathon). Thus, there were very few places in levels which actually used the vertical dimension, because pressing the up key in the right increments was virtually impossible. Remember that Doom 1,2 had auto-vertical aiming and no real Z axis?

    Quake I was ugly, with its all browns. The levels were terrible, not using Z, or only using it as a trick (the narrow path you could fall off of). I had a 3dfx card (most had no accelerator), and even I didn't play Quake I.

    Quake II was a lot better, it had the right controls (I think it even defaulted to them), good colors and good levels.

  124. Motion sickness cure + enhanced game experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Had the same problem. Solved it with a small dose of THC. No more motion sickness, instant automatic overclocking, and the most realistic game experience ver.

  125. you know nothing about computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "installing" is just decompressing and coping files, that is it, period! If something is not compressed it "installs" faster. You have NO idea what you are talking about . . . stop posting - read more!

  126. Its more a matter of immediate gratification. by Halloran · · Score: 1

    Expecting people to pay what they could reasonably expect to pay in the stores, is a non-starter as far as I'm concerned. Norton / Symantec do something similar.

    I think the key benefit here is that this method of software distribution supports someone who seeks instant gratification.

    The other day I needed a copy of Norton AntiVirus, so I went to the Symantec website, purchased, and had it up in running in less time then it would take for me to drive to the store and back.

    While doing the same thing with Half-Life 2 might be a bit more challenging due to bandwidth constraints, the same general idea applies.

    Priced the same, for time convenience.

  127. Same Here by Aqua_Geek · · Score: 1

    This is exactly the same reason that I bought my copy via Steam, particularly reason #6 (and convinced a few friends to do the same).

    On a side-note, while waiting for HL2 to download (man, that 4GB sure took its sweet time) I decided to play some Counter-Strike. I missed the Counter-Strike train, so last night was my first time playing it. Ever. No, seriously. Well, suffice it to say that I got it handed to me; 5-16 in the hour that I played. I took me 3 rounds just to figure out that I could buy other weapons.

    Hey! Where are you going with that? Give me back my geek badge! What if I promise, I'll never go to bed again without playing an hour of HL2?

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  128. Re:why not $22.99? by Uzito · · Score: 1

    Use Amazon, dude =)

    Subtotal of Items: $52.99
    Shipping & Handling: $4.98
    Promotional Certificates: -$34.98
    ---------
    Total for this Order: $22.99

    Received the game today

  129. The Final Hours of Half-Life 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I submitted this yesterday...fascinating article on the behind the scenes stuff, goes into previously non-public detail (including the hilarious story behind how they caught the hacker) and how the source code theft devastated the team morale. A must-read for everyone.

    The Final Hours of Half-Life 2

  130. Half-Life 2 cheats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's a weblog entry about how to turn on God mode.

  131. What happens when you light the levels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doom 3's graphics are a trick. The levels are actually very simple, mostly composed of simple block and tube brushes with the occasional mesh model for detail. The reason the game is so dark is: 1.) framerates begin to die with overlapping lights, and 2.) having everything dark and only lit with one light does what...exaggerate the bump maps! And when you do that, it masks the low polycount of the level. That's the trick behind Doom 3.

    Fire up a Doom 3 map in the editor and add a bunch of lights, the kind of lighting Half-Life 2 levels have. Try that office room where you get your PDA. Suddenly, you see how incredibly lame and simple the levels are, and how horrible the graphics look, when the room has a normal level of lighting and not the tomb-lighting that the regular game has.

    Doom 3 is a trick of light and shadow--exaggerated bump maps to mask the low polycount detail.

    1. Re:What happens when you light the levels by junkgrep · · Score: 2, Insightful

      HAve you seen the version of Doom3 someone got running on Voodoo2 SLI cards. First of all, pretty amazing achievement, but second of all, it shows exactly what you are talking about: blocky level design that really looks a great deal like a Quake2 level. However, that just isn't fair. Yes, Doom3 does cut down on the geometery to make the best use of bumpmaps and lighting. And the effect is astonishingly good looking. It may be a very limited SORT of good looking, but there is no doubt that the actual in game effect is incredible. The hell levels are particularly cool, as is the throbbing instestine stuff.

    2. Re:What happens when you light the levels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "HAve you seen the version of Doom3 someone got running on Voodoo2 SLI cards. First of all, pretty amazing achievement, but second of all, it shows exactly what you are talking about: blocky level design that really looks a great deal like a Quake2 level"

      Yes, voodoo cards are *certainly* the best and most fair way to show off a modern GL engine.

    3. Re:What happens when you light the levels by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      What they reveal is the base level geometry: astoundingly simple.

  132. Ha ha ha heh whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oh, whew... sorry.

    Heh, heheh, hehehehehahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

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    *COUGH, COUGH, CHOKE, COUGH*

    ha ha, heh hee, hahahaha, harrgh haa heheh ha HEH
    HAHAHAHAHA! HAHHAAAAAHHAAAA *COUGH* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    *COUGH* shit, I've got to quit smoking.

    hehehe hahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    heh, oh damnit, nevermind. I'll never *snicker* get my point across *snicker cough* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  133. of course it will. by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 1

    By the time it comes out, Duke Nukem Forever will be a Holodeck game

  134. Five letters: bnetd by tepples · · Score: 1

    They haven't passed a law yet saying that it's illegal to build a program that pretends to be steam.

    Oh really?

  135. GPA means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grade point average.

  136. Computer Consultant Prices Rise Dramatically by dragon_imp · · Score: 1

    With the activation of prepurchased Half-Life 2 copies today, computer consultant billing rates are expected to skyrocket for the short term. Market demand is expected to drive the rates for available computer consultants to new highs, well exceeding those of the "dot-com" era.

    Why, you might ask? In a market economy, goods and services are priced based on available supply and the demand for those goods and services. With hordes of computer consultants electing to "take a little time off to play Half-Life 2," consultants will be able to pick and choose among potential clients and price their services properly to compensate them for foregoing the thrills of Half-Life 2 for a few weeks.

    Many political jurisdictions have passed laws designed to protect innocent consumers from predatory pricing after natural disasters. However, State and local "price gouging" laws are not expected to affect this market-based price rise, as the shortage of available consultants is not expected to qualify under the laws' terms. Politicians, reacting to constituents' concerns, are expected to quickly attempt to change the laws to treat "loss of email and/or web services" as a disaster.

  137. Move Game to another Computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am tempted to d/l HL2 on my notebook and give it a shot while I am waiting to get my harddrive replacement from Maxtor for my desktop. My question is -- is there a way to "transfer" the game to my desktop? My notebook barely meets minimum requirements, which means it'll be crap, and so ultimately I wnat to play on my desktop... but don't want to have to buy the game twice.

  138. Reselling the game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So let me get this straight? If you purchase the game, activate it via Steam. It's now locked into your computer? You can't play it on another computer when re-installing?

    If that's the case, would that mean you can not sell the game once you've finished it?

    I hope that's not the case since spending $70 (CAD) on a single player game with limited replay value and not being able to sell if afterwards sounds like a problem.

    1. Re:Reselling the game by JohnCub · · Score: 1

      You can play it on another computer that has steam installed and you logged in. You cannot, however sell the game. The game is tied to your steamID and it will not work with another steamID. So you _could_ sell the software but it won't work for anyone but you without a unique cd key.

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  139. Doom III vs UT2004 by tjwhaynes · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Doom III is a pretty amazing experience on a well spec'd linux box but most of my gaming time is spent with UT2004, partly because Onslaught is such an amazing multiplayer experience but also because of the mods available for UT2004 are plentiful.

    Any decent AAA game has extensive modding capabilities and Epic have done well in encouraging mod-makers to expand upon UT2004. The NVidia-sponsored "Make Something Unreal" competition has resulted in some really impressive mods, from Alien Swarm to Red Orchestra and UnWheel, Clone Wars add to the fun. Hell - there is even a Golf game built on UT2004. Doom III will get it's top quality mods given time but for now UT2004 will continue to command my Linux gaming attention.

    And while I spare a thought for Half life 2, I'm not going to fret too much. If Valve doesn't want my gaming money I'll continue shovelling cash towards Epic, id software, Grimm Software, Garage Games, Epic Interactive, Running With Scissors and any other company out there who feels that Linux gaming is worth the trouble.

    Cheers,
    Toby Haynes

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  140. Half a decade? by cardshark2001 · · Score: 1

    Jeez, if you want five years to sound impressive, everyone knows you need to say "a twentieth of a century", or "a two-hundreth of a millenium".

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  141. God it sucks by JasonEngel · · Score: 2, Funny
    6 years to make, 60 minutes to install (*FIVE* count 'em *FIVE* CDs), and when all is said and done, the game doesn't WORK! All I get is choppy audio, flashing screens, no ability to move around. Heck, once I finally got the game to start (it crashed twice just starting), and went in the menu to configure keys and mouse it crashed again.

    I've been robbed. Seriously. $55 plus tax, and I can't even take the damn thing back to the store, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK.

    Why this piece of crap didn't come on a DVD I simply don't know.

    DOOM3 worked flawlessly out of the box with no need to mess with any of the settings. I suppose it was too much to assume that Valve, with one game under its belt, could actually make a second game that worked.

    I am so seriously ticked off by this worthless piece of crap.

    1. Re:God it sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "collectors edition" did come on DVD, but it was about $25 more. Screw that.

    2. Re:God it sucks by pod · · Score: 1

      At least you managed to get the thing installed. Check this out:

      http://promos.vugames.com/halflife2/

      I mean, how the fuck does something like that slip by? I know, I know, it
      says 'may occur'. May occur my ass. That's just marketing-CYA-speak.

      All they had to do was run two tests:

      1. Full install.
      2. HL2-only install.

      When there's a non-recoverable fatal fucking install error, on CD _4_ of 5,
      you've got some serious QA issues! Your number 1 errata is 'install doesn't
      work'. Morons.

      Wasting my goddamn time.

      I wonder how many non-web savvy gamers will be returning the boxes to stores
      for exchange because theirs doesn't work.

      So after over an hour re-trying the install, cleaning the CDs, rebooting,
      copying around (I even burned a copy of the CD thinking it was somehow
      faulty), I'm starting to look forward to playing the game.

      Hope it starts up.

      After all this trouble, and having to log into Steam, it BETTER NOT ask me for the CD to play.

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  142. Steam Must Die by koreth · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I played the game for an hour or so before I went to bed last night. Wanted to play it again this morning, but I made the idiot mistake of disconnecting from Steam in the meantime. Now (presumably because their servers are getting hammered by thousands of users) I can't connect to the Steam server at all. Which means I can't get to the list of games. Which means I can't play the goddamn single-player game I paid $60 for and that's sitting on my computer, already unencrypted.

    When I try to launch the Half-Life 2 executable on its own, I get an error that it can't find filesystem_stdio.dll, which indeed does not exist anywhere on my hard disk. There is a filesystem_steam.dll, though. How helpful!

    Is this what I have to look forward to? Buying a game and being able to maybe play it from time to time, whenever their servers happen to be up and not too terribly busy? Way to go, guys.

    I can understand requiring Steam for multiplayer. Fine. No problem at all with that. But I should not need to connect to their servers every time I want to fire up the game on my own.

    The first hour of my experience with this game was incredible. So far, the second hour of my experience is frustrating, annoying, and completely dissatisfying.

    1. Re:Steam Must Die by jmichaelg · · Score: 1
      Agree 100% - I shouldn't have to login to play a game on my own machine.

      Color me pissed. (a darker shade of yellow with a little ochre mixed in...)

    2. Re:Steam Must Die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in the same boat and I'm pissed. *Supposedly* login was only going to be required for initial install and network games -- no complaints there. Sadly I can no longer play the game because their servers appear to be offline (refusing connections to the ports the Steam client tries to connect to). If they don't have a resolution for this, I will be calling my credit card company and getting the payment canceled. Holding me hostage to their broken content delivery system is not my idea of a good experience.

      The game itself: fantastic.

      Steam: worthless.

      Lack of a support site that allows you to easily submit trouble reports or a phone number: insulting.

      (Yes you can submit *feedback* on a FAQ on the support site. I did that.)

    3. Re:Steam Must Die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditto here.

      I "bought" the game yesterday, now I sit here completely fucked because I can't log on.

      Useless.

    4. Re:Steam Must Die by grangerg · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm sort of in the same boat; extremely frustrated. I, however, have not been able to play yet. I have been able to waste my entire afternoon and I'm not happy in the slightest.

      My first problem came attempting to install it. I made the mistake of de-selecting Counter-Strike; the install fails on disc 4 if you do. It can't find "hl2.ico1". Well, Duh! It's on disc 5 retard! After waiting for the forums on steampowered.com, I found the problem was that I had chosen to not install Counter-Strike. Wasted time: about an hour and a half.

      Next, I fired up Steam to create an account. Oh, my living hell! Who coded that thing? What requires 100% CPU time? Was someone at Valve experimenting with spin-locks? It seems like every click means a 2-minute wait while it pegs the CPU---then it finally does something. Another hour and a half---maybe 2---wasted.

      Finally, after it decided to create my account, it got stuck validating my CD-key. I let it attempt to validate for---I kid you not---1:45 before I killed the stupid thing. Thereafter, I get the

      Error:Steam error: SteamProcessCall(Login)(0xab0002,0x15efc04,0x15efd 0c) failed with error 200: Failed to find Master AuthenticationServer
      error in the logs. I guess the servers finally melted down. The scary part is, when they come back online, will I have to call customer support to fix my account? I shudder to think there are more suprises like this waiting.

      The forums at steampowered.com are now officially offline and I have yet to find anywhere else (well, through Google at least) with help. It seems the entire support/authentication system has melted.

      It is now almost 7 hours since I bought Half-Life 2 and I still cannot play it. I'm just now barely getting myself back to the state where I don't want to kill/maim/destroy something; I'm extremely dissatisfied with Steam. It was not up to the task, and has left a bad taste in my mouth. I hope Valve can fix this soon, but the damage is done.

    5. Re:Steam Must Die by alnjmshntr · · Score: 1

      Why not send an email to CEO of Valve, Gabe Newell and tell him how you feel.

      gaben@valvesoftware.com

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    6. Re:Steam Must Die by cyclocommuter · · Score: 1

      I swear the install of HL2 (install, get online, download patch, unlock game, etc.) took MUCH LONGER than installing an entire Operating System (Linux or Windows).

      Then I start playing the fucking game and it is not even half as good as DOOM3 (graphics nor gameplay)... perhaps the entire install fiasco has left a sour taste but those folks singing praises for this game must either be astroturfers or smoking something. It's the same old shit from before including those retarded puzzles you have to figure get to the next level. Reload times take even longer than before despite me running a much faster CPU and hard drive compared to what I had more than 5 years ago.

    7. Re:Steam Must Die by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Well cry me a river. I big bad international conglomertate has taken your money and not provided a service.

    8. Re:Steam Must Die by @madeus · · Score: 1

      Well cry me a river. I big bad international conglomertate has taken your money and not provided a service.

      Valve employ a grand total of around 50 developers and are based entirely in the United States.

      I don't think that qualifies them as a 'big bad international conglomertate'.

    9. Re:Steam Must Die by grangerg · · Score: 1

      I was playing last night or else I would've posted an update. Somewhere between 5:30-6pm Steam let me login. Next, it attempted to authenticate my CD-key; it said that it wasn't able to yet, but that I could go ahead and play anyhow---Steam said it would get back to me later. Frankly, as a consumer, I really liked that; I sure don't envy the person who coded that and had to worry about how it could get hacked. Anyhow, a few seconds ago, Steam just told me that I'm all good-to-go! Yes! I won't have to call CustSupport! =)

      As for emailing Gabe directly, I bet he's presently inundated with email; thanks for the idea, alnjmshntr. I plan to watch the steampowered forums for a while and see what others have reported. If I have something to contribute, I most definitely will; that whole "pegging the CPU" thing can't be correct. (And that "AuthenticationServer" error is misleading.)

    10. Re:Steam Must Die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shut up,

      of course my heart goes out to you for not being able to play the game, but it can't be helped, stop whining.

      Thanks to Steam my friends and I managed to buy a game at the same time as you lot in the US, but we're in Japan, and my friends got theirs with Japanese sub-titles.

      It works offline once you've activated it just the once.

    11. Re:Steam Must Die by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Is this what I have to look forward to? Buying a game and being able to maybe play it from time to time, whenever their servers happen to be up and not too terribly busy? Way to go, guys.

      Yep - that is what you have to look forward too - the greedy imorals of the industry will just continute to foist this kind of big brother software on us.

      And to add further insult to injury you on top of this spyware crap you still need to have the disc in the drive! Incompetent morons

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    12. Re:Steam Must Die by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Disc 4? Disc 5?

      Interesting - how many disk is it on?

      Here its just one DVD disk ... which is of course a problem since it requires you keep it inserted, so if one were to make an image to keep on the harddrive we are pusing 9GB for a stupid game...

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    13. Re:Steam Must Die by stateofmind · · Score: 1

      WAIT, WAIT, WAIT... Your telling me you have to be online every time you want to fucking play it???

      I bought it last night, $54 from the store. Installed the 5 discs from the cheap-ass paper cd inserts they used. But anyways, sweet there is the game. Then I go to play and find I have to activate it online?!? Fine, whatever. Thats stupid. But I'm fucked, because my inet access won't be installed for another month. So I'm dragging my box down to the office tonight to register it.

      But from what I'm hearing now, I have to be online whenever I want to play? Please don't tell me that is the way... I'm already pissed enough about being required to have inet access to play a game I plunked $50+ for, and then not being able to play it.

      Josh

    14. Re:Steam Must Die by robnauta · · Score: 1
      Here its just one DVD disk ... which is of course a problem since it requires you keep it inserted, so if one were to make an image to keep on the harddrive we are pusing 9GB for a stupid game

      Just like a CD image a DVD image file would be as big as its contents, just over 3 GB, not 9.

    15. Re:Steam Must Die by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Duh - *PLUS* the install directory.

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  143. Valve Deserves an Rebuke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excuse me if I sound angry, but it's because I am.

    I just want to say

    Fuck Valve

    Congratulations to them for making an apparently great game--seriously. I wouldn't know for sure, though, because I haven't played it, and don't know if I will.

    I respect Valve for their skill at making games. But I could not be more angry with a developer now.

    If Valve is so talented, why the hell can't they release it on a single fucking non-Microsoft system? They release a Linux server, but no client. It's obviously within their ability. Other competent development houses have no problem--UT, Doom, Neverwinter Nights--they all release their games for other systems.

    Limited distribution, you say? What about their console releases? Maybe I'm wrong--and someone can correct me--but why not then release a console version for PS2 or Nintendo, which has a large share of the console market?

    I am angry precisely because Valve makes good games, and because they choose to force gamers to use a particular computer system that I have ethical problems with.

    Support for the community? Bullshit. If they supported the community they would release a fucking client for all the people who will run servers on Linux systems, at least to show appreciation for running a server.

    If that weren't enough, you have Steam. I'm all for online distribution that cuts out the middleman, and giving it to the developers. But this obsessive control over IP is ridiculous. Epic didn't have a problem getting rid of the CD check after a certain length of time, and they're doing fine.

    Add to that the promotional deals with MS, where they release joint press statements.

    Bah. Valve is a greedy bunch of fucking bastards who make a good game but don't give a crap about their customers.

    I'm more than willing to listen to their perspective, but I'm tired of their attitude toward gamers.

    Half-Life 2 would have to be a fucking miracle of innovation in FPS to make me want to play it, but it doesn't look like that to me. Everything I've read makes it sound like the same-old FPS with better graphics, better AI, and the like. I think the IGN review even explicitly says something like "there's little innovation per se, just raising the bar on current gameplay."

    I'm sorry for sounding so much like a troll. I'm just angry with Valve, and needed to vent.

    I respect everyone who likes Valve and HL2 so much. I really do. But they tend to treat others so poorly, that I have a difficult time justifying giving them my money.

    I'm so tired of the corporate bedsharing that takes place in gaming today.

    1. Re:Valve Deserves an Rebuke by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      Shorter version: they didn't port DirectX over to Linux, so their game must not be fun to play.

      I wish I could say that they treat their customers, but they've always treated me great. They respond to email questions personally, troubleshoot issues, take suggestions for features, etc. They figure Linux clients aren't worth the significant amount of time and hassle they could be spending on things like supporting 64bit processors or getting an Xbox port out. Yeah, other companies do it. They don't. Oh well. And fuck Bungie for not releasing a PS2 version of Halo!

    2. Re:Valve Deserves an Rebuke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Listen very carefully:

      I am not saying that HL is not fun to play.

      If you would read my post carefully, I actually said that it sounds like a great game.

      I never mentioned anything about DirectX. Perhaps you'd like to take this into some discussion about the technical merits versus demerits of DirectX versus other things, but that's another can of worms entirely.

      My problem with Valve is that they seem to be supporting MS products to a level that is not commensurate with (1) their ability as developers and (2) the user base. I'm not talking about Linux per se even. I'm talking about a single non-MS platform, period.

      They went so far as to release a frickin HL2 server for Linux, why not anything else?

      And like I said--my problems with Valve go way way beyond the MS-only bit. It goes to IP issues with Steam, to their publicity ties with MS, to the fact that they overcharged for the original HL years after release, and so forth.

      It's bunch of little things that, taken together, lead me to really be angry at Valve.

      Maybe there's too many Valve fans here to step back and think that maybe, just maybe HL2 isn't the greatest FPS ever made.

      And by the way: yes, I do think that Bungie deserves an equal rebuke. The reason why I'm not as angry with them is because, frankly, I have always considered HL to be much better than Halo.

    3. Re:Valve Deserves an Rebuke by TrancePhreak · · Score: 1

      I just wanted to say that a game server and a game are completely unrelated when it comes to porting games. A game server is a very easy thing to have on multiple platforms, but a game is not. The other thing I wanted to point out is that the PS2 just doesn't have the RAM to make some games fun. If Halo had been on the PS2, then you'd need to stop and load alot and the textures would be horrific. Halo on XBox cached a bunch of stuff to the hard drive, because it was a standard piece of the machine. The hard drive on the PS2 is very limited in exposure comparitively.

      --

      -]Phreak Out[-
    4. Re:Valve Deserves an Rebuke by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      If you would read my post carefully, I actually said that it sounds like a great game.

      Ah. Should I look before or after the part where you say "Half-Life 2 would have to be a fucking miracle of innovation in FPS to make me want to play it, but it doesn't look like that to me. Everything I've read makes it sound like the same-old FPS with better graphics, better AI, and the like. I think the IGN review even explicitly says something like "there's little innovation per se, just raising the bar on current gameplay." ???

      I never mentioned anything about DirectX. Perhaps you'd like to take this into some discussion about the technical merits versus demerits of DirectX versus other things, but that's another can of worms entirely.

      Given that the entire rendering engine is built on DirectX, I would think that you MIGHT want to mention DirectX at some point.

      Maybe there's too many Valve fans here to step back and think that maybe, just maybe HL2 isn't the greatest FPS ever made. Is this sentance supposed to come before or after the sentance where you say that you aren't saying that Half-Life 2 is fun to play?

      It's bunch of little things that, taken together, lead me to really be angry at Valve.

      Let's see: they don't spend oodles of extra time and money to design a second rendering engine for a platform with a fairly low market/return for all the effort. And, since they aren't a business, but are instead some sort of a magical fairy princess that should know better, this is bad on them. They actually talk to the OS on which their game is designed to run on, so bad on them again. Also, they are trying out a new system of digital rights, so extra super bad on them for not just giving it away with no copy protecting aside from a stealable CD key and annoying CD check.

      Wait, what?

    5. Re:Valve Deserves an Rebuke by sharok · · Score: 1

      You are sooo right.
      A better visual experience, a better AI engine, a better, more immersive world, realistic physics, believable facial/body expressions, and a thoroughly intriguing story do not make a miracle of innovation.

      Don't fight it, keep your money. You're definitely the one who is right.
      Excuse me while I go on playing this crappy game.

  144. LANning with your bro allowed? by MunchMunch · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "From what I hear though the game's DRM is pretty lenient. You can install on as many PC's as you like, they just can't use the same key simultaneously. This isn't activation in the "Windows XP" sense of the word."

    Two questions then:

    1) Does this mean that it not only needs to check an internet database during installation, but also every time a game is loaded up (and closed, to affirm a time frame)?

    2) Does this mean that you can't install a copy on your brother's computer for LAN play (i.e., you and your little brother have to buy their own copies just to play versus each other)?

    People can argue about how under strict legal interpretation, you and your brother should have to buy their own copies to play against each other, but in actuality, I feel that that's pretty restrictive. Conversely, LAN-enabled games often were pretty consistent in allowing players to LAN with a single copy, even when the capability existed (heck, comparing CD keys could have been done any time LAN and CD Keys were both used).

    So, if that's the case, it's one less reason for me to buy this game. If it's not the case, somebody tell me please!

    1. Re:LANning with your bro allowed? by cortana · · Score: 3, Informative

      1. Yes, for online games. Single player and LAN games don't require you to be logged into Steam.

      2. Presumably you can do this using offline mode. Of course, you must authenticate the game during installion on each PC--so your little brother will have access to your Steam account, and will be able to get you banned from online play (say, by cheating).

      More annoying, Steam has to be run as an administrator. When will Windows programmers get it through their thick heads that this is not a good idea! *sigh*.

    2. Re:LANning with your bro allowed? by Schnapple · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what HL2 does but IIRC, HL1 allowed 5 LAN'd people to use the same key.

    3. Re:LANning with your bro allowed? by general_re · · Score: 2, Informative
      More annoying, Steam has to be run as an administrator.

      Not true. You should probably install as administrator, but from that point onward it will be perfectly happy to run with power user privileges. User-level accounts cannot, by default, write to the Program Files folder, but I would guess that if you gave explicit write permissions to the Steam folders, it might very well work.

      --
      ABSURDITY, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
    4. Re:LANning with your bro allowed? by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      well, it will install on as many machines as you want, and if you click the remember log on in steam, you can play it in single user mode without logging onto steam. If you want to play CS:source or whatever, you will need two keys.

      --
      -William
      God is everything science has yet to explain.
    5. Re:LANning with your bro allowed? by complete+loony · · Score: 1
      After a successful run of steam, and a successful login, when you start steam again and it can't connect to the internet it should allow you to play in Offline mode. It caches everything it needs in the clientregistry.blob file.

      Make sure you always have a known working version of this file backed up.

      Mind you if you are connected to the internet, and the login process fails part way through (like say the servers are busy ...) then you're screwed, as steam displays an error and then quits without giving you the option to play offline.

      --
      09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
    6. Re:LANning with your bro allowed? by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1
      Power users can escalate their priviliges to SYSTEM under the default configuration. Try this at the command prompt:

      at /interactive (one minute from now, 24-hour time) cmd


      You'll get a SYSTEM-level prompt.
    7. Re:LANning with your bro allowed? by general_re · · Score: 1

      You didn't create the named pipe, and that hole was closed in SP4 anyway ;)

      --
      ABSURDITY, n.: A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion.
    8. Re:LANning with your bro allowed? by sharok · · Score: 1

      1) The answer is, unfortunately, yes. I noticed last night that when I cut the internet connection on my home network , I could no longer start HL2.

      2) Obviously, but that is not news. There aren't all that many games today that are dunb enough not to compare game keys when you LAN. On the other hand, there is always a crack available after some time.

      How you feel about it is irrelevant (although I agree with you, personally). Game makers have mostly included restrictions on this kind of thing. Very few games have specifically enabled, and even encouraged, multi-LAN play out of the box (Jagged Alliance : Deadly Games was a hallmark of its kind).

    9. Re:LANning with your bro allowed? by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 1

      Hm, perhaps I was remembering it wrong. What was the named pipe for? I usually use this on XP machines to escalate from Administrator to SYSTEM, mind.

    10. Re:LANning with your bro allowed? by MunchMunch · · Score: 1

      Well, I've sort of taken a wallet-recommended break from online gaming since Quake 3 (a period which easily lasted 4 years anyways), but Q3 LANs always allowed you to join and create games from the same key. I thought I'd get back into it with HL2, but it sounds like I'm gonna have to stick to my principles here. A shame...

  145. Updating Steam by Dutchy+Wutchy · · Score: 0

    Yeah, got the game, spent a long time installing it, can I play yet? No! Steam Updating, this it taking forever, 30 minutes for 24% complete. Maybe it is my school connection and port limitations.

  146. steam bandwidth: using 10Gbps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out the Steam Network Status. While I write this, they are using 11.3 Gbps!

  147. about time by torrents · · Score: 1

    there's no doubt that the die hard hl freaks are going to rush to the stores and pick up their collectors edition but you have to wonder how the market in general will take this very late release, especially since halo 2 was able to debut before hl2

    --
    Get your torrents...
  148. I nearly passed up sex today to keep playing... by mikeb39 · · Score: 1

    I actually nearly did. The real scary part is that I don't see anything wrong with the.

    BTW, I think the only way to describe this game would be as "the Lord of the Rings of computer games".

    Just absolutly epic.

  149. Class Action Suit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I agree with you. I cannot log on to Steam at the moment either and I can't understand why I should have to do so in order to play a game I have already paid for AND which has been unlocked! I would urge all of you out there who are having similar problem to write a letter of complaint to Steam - or can someone in America start a class action suit? Seems like a rip-off to me! Alas, this is all no doubt covered by the small print somewhere which I have signed up to...

  150. Nothing to see here.. by mqRakkis · · Score: 1
  151. HL1 Source in retail? by White-out_On_Screen · · Score: 1

    I never got around to getting this through Steam, and the systems sounds like it's really staggering right now; does anyone know if the boxed version comes with HL1-Source and CS-Source, or are those Steam-only?

    1. Re:HL1 Source in retail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Collector's Edition is supposed to come with both CS:Source and HL:Source in addition to HL-2. The Silver Steam account also give you DoD:Source when it gets released, which the retail copy doesn't.

      Since you have to register the retail copy with Steam anyway and can back up the DL'd game files to CD/DVD, seems like Steam Silver is still the way to go. Especially since it's $25 cheaper than the retail CE box. If you really can't wait the apparent 6-8 hours for the download or don't have broadband, then you gotta go with the box.

    2. Re:HL1 Source in retail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      offer on steam says "only available on steam" or some such

  152. Re:Playing it now *WOW* by chromaphobic · · Score: 1

    Actually, it's amazing for about the first hour. I was blown away by every aspect of the game. Then I got to the damn hoverboat thing...

    Another hour later and I'm still stuck driving around this stupid hoverboat, and I'm BORED. I'm tired of driving this damn thing around, it was fun for a few minutes but now they've dragged it on and on and on and... please NO MORE DAMN HOVERBOAT!

    Silly me, I thought the sequel to one of the best FPS games of all time would have been another FPS, and not a damn driving game.

  153. Half-Life 2 Finally Pirated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    10 hours since activation, not bad guys!

    http://www.izonews.com/release.php3?releaseid=93 95 1

    Check your local torrent listings for showtimes. :)

    and yes, before anyone points it out, there are various issues and it's being nuked, though they are working on a patch..

  154. How to play offline without connecting to Steam by djohng · · Score: 1

    In a Steam FAQ I read that you should be able to play offline without connecting up to Steam - you just need to disable your internet connection before you start up the Steam program. Alas, when I try this I get the message 'Offline mode is unavailable because there is no Steam login information stored on this computer. You will not be able to use Steam until you can connect to the Steam network again.' Why Steam occasionally loses my local login information I have no idea. Makes me want to LET OFF STEAM!!

  155. Password??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Steam has been connecting fine for about a month. All of a sudden it wants my password. I tried the usual passwords, but no luck. Tried to retrieve the account about an hour ago...no email back yet. Every time I try to do anything with Steam it starts chugging and eats up 99% of my CPU. Anyone else having these problems???

    1. Re:Password??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh...and tech support in incapacitated. All circuits have been busy for the past half hour. Guess I'm not the only one.

  156. HALF-LIFE 2 DOES NOT WORK IN OFFLINE MODE!!! by c1one · · Score: 3, Informative

    I PAID FOR THE GAME. I AUTHORIZED THE GAME AND UPDATED STEAM (ANOTHER 20MB IN ADDITION TO THE 5 CD'S.) I UPDATED HL2 TODAY (ANOTHER 20MB) SO I COULD FINALLY PLAY IT. I CLOSED MY CONNECTION (I DO NOT LIKE MY GAMING PC ONLINE.) I DOUBLE, TRIPLE, QOUDROUPLE, ETC, ETC, CHECKED MY SETTINGS SO I COULD PLAY IN "OFFLINE" MODE. I CANNOT. THE EXACT ERROR IS ...
    Steam - Error
    This operation cannot be completed when Steam is in offline mode.

    I will never buy VALVe software again, I don't care if they make a game where Trent Reznor comes to my house to party while Britney Spears* gives you head if you buy the game.

    *fill in your hot chick/guy

    AGAIN, I PAID FOR THE F'IN GAME.

    1. Re:HALF-LIFE 2 DOES NOT WORK IN OFFLINE MODE!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what if Taco comes and gives you a tit fuck?

    2. Re:HALF-LIFE 2 DOES NOT WORK IN OFFLINE MODE!!! by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      No. You paid for a license of the game. Which requires you to be online.

  157. no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you made that up, asshole.

    Lying sack of shit.

    1. Re:no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's an Internet gag fully six fucking years old, and you still fell for it.

      And so, in summation, you're not too smart.

  158. ohh, how true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How true is the title 'Half-Life 2 Finally Activated'? Ive bought the game, which needs authentication via steam (even if you bought it from a shop), and the damn thing wont connect to steam because it has been flooded. I have been hitting retry for 15mins now - game is installed, but it wont let me play until it talks to steam. Im really starting to hate this nonsense!!!!!

  159. INSTALL WARNING / Disappointment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I purchased the HL2 game today, but I was so eager that I installed it on my work computer just to see that it works.

    And now that I got home to _really_ play it on a less-than-lousy computer, steam just tells me I'm not allowed to play it because I already registered the cd-key once.

    Then going on to Steam support, I see this:
    ----
    You must include the following within the message in .jpg format:

    1. A picture of the actual game CD.
    2. A picture of the HL/CS packaging which clearly displays the CDKey number.
    3. A picture of the sales receipt.

    NOTE: Please allow up to 2 weeks to receive a reply from Sierra / VU Games
    ----

    I had been looking forward to this game for 1 1/2 year. Now I either have to buy it _again_ to actually play it, OR borrow a digital camera from someone, pray that I can still find the receipt, and wait two weeks...
    BEWARE!

    1. Re:INSTALL WARNING / Disappointment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. I purchased it over Steam, and am happily running on two computers in the same house under the same Steam ID. Same class-C subnet, though... maybe that makes a difference?

    2. Re:INSTALL WARNING / Disappointment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make sure you LOGOUT and don't have Steam running on the work computer.

      As far as I know you can install as many copies as you want, but it can only 'run' on one computer at one time.

    3. Re:INSTALL WARNING / Disappointment by Dimensio · · Score: 2, Informative

      You shouldn't have to do that. As long as your work computer isn't logged into Steam, you should be able to log into Steam and go right into HL2 once you install it.

      After the install, Steam will start up and ask for the CD key. Just hit Cancel, since you've already registered the product with Steam, and you'll get a list of the installed games. When you choose HL2, it will connect to unlock the files, as the game is already registered.

      I've just confirmed this by running an install on a second machine.

  160. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Steam automatically creates self-extracting executable files in its directory for you to burn to either CDs or DVD, your choice.

  161. Half-Life_2_READ_NFO-EMPORiO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The torrent is out in the wild, go download!
    Half-Life_2_READ_NFO-EMPORiO
    http://www.thepiratebay.org/download.php/3256368/H alf-Life_2_READ_NFO-EMPORiO.torrent

    1. Re:Half-Life_2_READ_NFO-EMPORiO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This work? I know the torrent is down, but assuming you have the torrent?

  162. SHUT UP AND KEEP WANKING, GEEK BOY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    you heard me!

  163. Mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    +5 Genius

  164. Nope half-life is not your game by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
    For all its qualities it is a single plot game with no sidelines.

    So like watching a plot driven movie, after the first time you can only really relive the moment. But the suprise is gone.

    Some comedies like Airplane got so many gags that you might have missed some. A movie like the sixth sense you might watch again to see the build up to the brilliant ending. But basically you have been there.

    Worse in a game like half-life is that you are there. You will have spotted every clue because if you didn't you wouldn't have gone passed it. In the sixt sense you might have missed the clues that something was wrong with the lead but if it had been a game you would have known.

    It is the vital difference between a game and a movie. In the movie you watch the hero. In the game you are the hero. You might watch sherlock holmes and then go at the end "oh i never thought that would be the solution" but if you play sherlock holmes the games you either know the solution or you can't finish.

    Half-life you can play 2-3 times depending on how much you like it but after that it is done. The multiplayer part was what kept it alive for so long.

    As to your question, I play some games wich you can play again and again like say Transport Tycoon but some games I know you can only really play once. The heavier the story and the better the story the more likely I can only play it twice. The second time being years later and remembering the good times.

    Even a game like Planescape Torment wich has a heavy story element but can be played in multiple ways can for me only really be played in one way. Some people can play through story choices in multiple ways but I like to play a hero, because in real life it is so hard to be one, and so will make the same choices during a second play.

    So to me it is a choice. Story or replay. Pick one but not both. That is my choice. Yours may be different but I can tell you this. No story based FPS is going to appeal to you if you want replay. Half-Life least because there is no choice.

    --

    MMO Quests are like orgasms:

    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  165. Boy, sure wish I had Half-Life 2... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh wait, I do, I just can't play it because Steam is...a steaming pile. Leave it to former Microsoft employees to devise a system that requires you to set up port forwarding (and thereby blocking many university students from being able to play) just to play a single player game, and then not even work because the connection was refused. Geez. Guess I'll just have to wait for the h4x0r3d version to come out.

  166. How to get my money back! by ender_wiggins · · Score: 1

    I bought it, i dont control my firewall, so it doesnt work. Its broke. EB Games is saying tuff nuts. Now i got software that doesnt work! What a POS software!

    1. Re:How to get my money back! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it doesn't even work if you do control your firewall. the ports they tell you to forward do shit to the problem.

    2. Re:How to get my money back! by neil.pearce · · Score: 1

      That's very, very, very true.

      I bought this "game" at 9am GMT.

      Installed it - to find i've got to "update steam"

      Okay, 15 hours later I finally manage to download the needed magic 4 MB (though I've downloaded 400MB during the day in failed attempts - aborted due to steam crashes or lock ups)

      I must "Create a steam account"... oh no, it says I'm "offline"? (I'm most certainly not!).

      Every port listed for steam client/server on their support pages is forwarded... makes no difference.

      I "quit" in frustration and try again....

      "You must update steam" - gotta wait another 15 hours for those magic 4MB again!!!!!!

      THEY ARE NEVER, EVER, EVER GETTING ANY OF MY MONEY AGAIN. PLEASE ROLE ON THE FUCKIN' CRACK.

  167. buying latest build by goon · · Score: 1

    yeah the price is steep (think of this in $AUS dollars) but wait for a while when a patch or update comes out. Everyone with a *physical* copy will have to get a patch and install it.


    the price is reflecting *the best most up to date build* not some snapshot weeks or months old.



    --
    peterrenshaw ~ Another Scrappy Startup
  168. Re:How to play offline without connecting to Steam by igorthefiend · · Score: 2, Informative

    Tell me about it. We just had a minor power cut (yes, I should have a UPS and will hand in my geek card forthwith) and when I tried to play again, it had logged me out of Steam. The servers are down (according to theinquirer.net) and might not be back up for three hours. No offline mode, no halflife2, no nothing. Thanks, Valve, not like you could have anticipated the server-melting demand, is it?

  169. Pfft. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sent the email my ass. Valve can suck a cock.

  170. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No one else can play it until Valve stops dicking around...great.

  171. HL2 ... TF2? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Who do I have to blow to get TF2?

  172. Reviews fixed!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    No outcry about reviews being fixed? I am astonished. There was outcry about the halo2 reviews. Seems like a dubble standard to me.

    1. Re:Reviews fixed!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Thats because Halo 2 sucks while Half-life 2 does not.

    2. Re:Reviews fixed!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhhhh uhhhh. The halo2 reviews were out before the game was released chief.

  173. Save, play earlier and get more by Namarrgon · · Score: 1
    Indeed. I live in Sydney, and dutifully went to the shop to buy a copy on Tuesday morning, only to be told it wasn't available (here) until Wednesday - AUD$90 for the plain (HL2 only) version, and AUD$130 for the Collector's Edition, which also included CS:Source, HL:Source, other Valve games and a t-shirt.

    So I went with Steam, where for US$60 (only AUD$73) I could get everything except the t-shirt. And I didn't have to wait until Wednesday either.

    Oh, and rewarding Valve instead of Vivendi (manufacturer of fine buggy whips) was a nice bonus :-)

    --
    Why would anyone engrave "Elbereth"?
  174. HL2 is not Tux Racer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has the highest-end rendering subsystem of any computer game released to date. It is NOT as trivial as you might think to port a high-end D3D 9-class renderer to Linux, or PS2, or the Mac, or the Commodore 64, or whatever your favorite platform is.

    These guys worked on this game for six years. Can you blame them for finally deciding to shoot the programmer and let a few other people see how cool it is?

  175. Installation by konrd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is it me or does loading HL2 feel like the old days of loading Windows 95 from floppy disks?

  176. Here's how it works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    • Jesus Christ has more money than God.
    • The Pope has more money than Jesus.
    • Gabe Newell had a 3-digit employee # on his badge when he worked at Microsoft.
      Any questions?
  177. amazing by SteveXE · · Score: 0

    I gotta give it to valve, they made an amazing game. The physics are just incredible and add tons of new gameplay options to explore. I am kinda pissed that it needs to be activated online, which in reality means the retail disks dont ship with all the files needed to play...makes me wonder whats gonna happen in a few years when i feel nostalgic and i wanna play HL2, will i be able to?

    Might i add im in love with the most beautiful girl ever born and her name is Jen, might i also add she loves me back! Why am i telling the nerds of the world this? Because right now all i can think about is her when i should be playing Half Life 2 (because she is sleeping)...she makes me so happy i dont even wanna game!

  178. Steam, Gabe Newell's baby. by gibs · · Score: 1

    (After downloading the 4.2 gig of cache files on a friend's cable...) Steam: Preloading complete. After the game is released you will be able to play it immediately! Me: Oooh, immediately. That sounds good. (Midnight PST) Steam: HL2 is released. Play now! Me: Ok... *clicks link* Steam: Unlocking Counterstrike Source Game Files... Me: This is highly irregular, but OK. *waits* (10 minutes later) Steam: Unlocking 3 HL2 game files... Me: This is more like it! HL2 here i come. (20 minutes later) Steam: C++ error (abort/retry/ignore) Me: WTF!? *restarts steam* Steam: Unlocking 3 HL2 game files... Me: *goes to eat dinner* (30 mins later) Steam: ... Me: WTF?! *clicks on HL2...again* Steam: Unlocking 3 HL2 game files...80% complete (10 mins later) Steam: HL2 is ready to play! Me: I know you're probably lying, but OK. *clicks play* Steam: *updates some shit* Me: WTF, the game came out like 1hr ago Steam: Preparing to play... (5 mins later) Me: Oh how you taunt me... *whimpers* (Familiar Valve intro sound...logo appears) Me: Plays HL2 for 4 hrs straight (at least they did something right) Well, I suppose I shouldn't have expected anything other than empty promises from Steam, given that Mr Gabe Newell was the lead developer of it. Gabe should buy an Xbox and see how games are done online in the 21st century. That or hang himself in a toilet cubicle.

  179. Let me try that again, WITH formatting by gibs · · Score: 2, Informative

    (After downloading the 4.2 gig of cache files on a friend's cable...)
    Steam: Preloading complete. After the game is released you will be able to play it immediately!
    Me: Oooh, immediately. That sounds good.
    (Midnight PST)
    Steam: HL2 is released. Play now!
    Me: Ok... *clicks link*
    Steam: Unlocking Counterstrike Source Game Files...
    Me: This is highly irregular, but OK. *waits*
    (10 minutes later)
    Steam: Unlocking 3 HL2 game files...
    Me: This is more like it! HL2 here i come.
    (20 minutes later)
    Steam: C++ error (abort/retry/ignore)
    Me: WTF!? *restarts steam*
    Steam: Unlocking 3 HL2 game files...
    Me: *goes to eat dinner*
    (30 mins later)
    Steam: ...
    Me: WTF?! *clicks on HL2...again*
    Steam: Unlocking 3 HL2 game files...80% complete
    (10 mins later)
    Steam: HL2 is ready to play!
    Me: I know you're probably lying, but OK. *clicks play*
    Steam: *updates some shit*
    Me: WTF, the game came out like 1hr ago
    Steam: Preparing to play...
    (5 mins later)
    Me: Oh how you taunt me... *whimpers*
    (Familiar Valve intro sound...logo appears)
    Me: Plays HL2 for 4 hrs straight (at least they did something right)

    Well, I suppose I shouldn't have expected anything other than empty promises from Steam, given that Mr Gabe Newell was the lead developer of it. Gabe should buy an Xbox and see how games are done online in the 21st century. That or hang himself in a toilet cubicle.

  180. SHOULD HAVE READ THE EULA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you rush into things without reading the proper legal agreements associated therein, you can get burned. Shame on you fringe free software zealots for championing fair use and online rights while conveniently ignoring the law when it suits you. You got what you deserved, now go back to Tux Racer.

    Frankly, I'm impressed with how generous VU is by giving you a way out.

  181. Now we just need to find a way to play it by Snaller · · Score: 1

    10 years from now when their immoral activation grap has gone down.

    I can still get my old quake cd and play that - but this stuff? I doubt it.

    If the law allows me to do so i wish they go out of business if it doesn't i wish them... something else.

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    If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
  182. Finally got to play it - initial thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I left work early yesterday to play and promptly got held up for over an hour on the journey home. Damned trains. Anyway, I finally got home and played the damned thing. Initial thoughts were as follows:

    No problems for me in getting it running. I fire up steam, it starts unlocking automatically and in the time it takes me to go upstairs and get changed (about 5 minutes), it has the game unlocked and ready to play. Loading delay on starting the game is pretty epic. Indeed, loading delays in general were a bit of a pain. I'm on a pretty fast PC; P4 3.4ghz, 1 gig of RAM, fast HDD, but the loading delays, even the transitions between different parts of the levels, are pretty grim. Much worse than the equivalent delays in HL1, on the hardware I had at the time when that came out. It probably takes Doom 3 or Farcry longer to load a level, but once it's loaded, there aren't any transitions in those until the end of the level.

    Usual array of configuration options. Nothing to see here, move along. I select "normal" difficulty, as I usually do on my first play-through of a game. Generally gives me a good benchmark of the difficulty level.

    Then I play for a few hours, interrupting my play only briefly to log into FFXI and check up on my sales at the Auction House. WARNING: from here on, there may be some spoilers, although I'll do my best to keep them to an absolute minimum.

    It's a long, long time before you get to any combat... longer than I've seen in any other fps. Not saying that this is a bad thing, as I've got nothing against a bit of plot development. The setting strikes me as a bit odd at first; not really what I'd expected from HL1 (and I've avoided previews like the plague). However, it starts to make more sense as I get a bit further in.

    For those who are also playing the game, I've just got past the section where you play "fetch" with "dog". Judging by the chapter list on the "new game" menu, I'd judge this to be about 1/4 of the way through the game, although of course, I'd expect the later chapters to take longer. It's taken me about 3 hours, maybe 3 and a half, to get this far.

    Graphically, the game's OK. It suffers a lot in terms of its first impressions from having followed Farcry and Doom 3. It doesn't do large outdoor areas as well as Farcry and it doesn't have the jaw-dropping beauty of Doom 3 inside. The best word for the graphics is probably "functional". Character models are nice, very detailed, but the movement is sometimes a bit unnatural and I think this seems even weirder because the models themselves look so realistic. Locations are fairly drab. Obviously, this is at least partly deliberate. However, some of the areas which probably weren't supposed to be drab also looked a little sparse after Farcry. The weapon graphics are surprisingly blocky and primative.

    I don't tend to notice sound much in games, providing it isn't outstandingly good or bad. Half-Life 2's seems generally fine. Voice acting is actually very good, among the best I've heard in a game. Background ambiance noises are also quite convincing. However, the weapons sound a bit... well... unconvincing. Combined with the blocky models, it kind of contributes to the feeling that you're running around with a toy gun.

    As for the gameplay...

    It's OK. At its core, this is a straightforward run-and-gun fps. You follow a pre-determined path, killing enemies, picking up weapons and items and doing all that usual fps stuff. It's something of a shame that I've not seen anything like the branching paths that Farcry offered through a few of its levels, but I can live with this. Slightly unusual is the amount of time you spend early in the game having to run away from enemies rather than fighting them. I thought Doom 3 was supposed to be the game to incorporate elements of the survival horror genre, but in that, I just blasted everything away. In Half-Life 2, it seems better just to run away from a lot of the early fights.

    The fights themselves are a bit underwhelming. The AI

  183. You, the ugly thief! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Steam does not work! piece of crap, stupid licensy system, unable to play offline! rap, crap crap that's all. Don't buy it, screw valvle and screw vivendi!
    They could have at least supposed I was not a thief and allow me to play the 1st few levels, bot NO! all reg has to be done before all! thats the most important, satisfaction of customer goes second!

    All I hope is a good trial valve/vivendi, where both of them losse a huge amount of money, and then disappears in bankrupt.

  184. res0? by King_of_Prussia · · Score: 1
    ?

    Cat got your tongue? (something important seems to be missing from your comment ... like the body or the subject!)

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    Making the moon less necessary since 1998.

  185. Re: Steam doesn't mean $ go only to Valve by Poseidon88 · · Score: 1

    Actually, they didn't, which was dumb. What they did do was get a court order to bar Valve from selling the game for a lower price over Steam, because that would have really hurt their retail sales.

  186. How do I get tech support for the Steam crap? by sborisch · · Score: 1

    Even though opinions seem very mixed, I thought I'd try Steam so as to encourage non-distributor (Vivendi) based game distribution (i.e. online). It took 3 hours to download Half-Life 2, but then it just hangs on the loading screen! Based on the amount of activity on my cable modem, I think it must not be done downloading, and they are just lying to me! http://steampowered.com/forums/ has no help on this (search is disabled!), and I can't find any option to email tech support. If I can't get any help on this within a few days from Valve, you can bet I'll never buy from them again.

  187. Petition to Valve regarding Half Life 2 and STEAM by Schattenreiter · · Score: 1

    A petition to Valve regarding Half Life 2 and STEAM: http://www.petitiononline.com/cg1d0915/petition.ht ml Please tell everyone. And don't forget to sign, though! ;-) greetz, Schattenreiter