It's easy enough to defeat the backdoor. Double encrypt your message. Once with software that the government does not have a key for and again with the approved method. This way any message that you send will look like gibberish when decrypted with the government key. This will have the added benefit of foiling sniffers that route messages encrypted by un-approved methods to an agency that sorts through them.
The root of this problem is that it can never, EVER work. Mainly because we have freedom of speech, they government can pass as many laws as it likes on legal encryption but they can't enforce them. Think of the civil-disobedient potenial. You could get thousand of people to send random encrypted gibberish to one another. Just because the government can't understand it doesn't make it illegal, what's the difference between that and encrypted meaningful information. The answer is none. This is all simply a case of communicating in a language that the government doesn't understand... all well within our rights.
Sounds like a plan to me, I've always wanted to get into console programming, but haven't ever got around to it.
Anyone have some informative links to info for coding on the original PS?
I don't even know where to start (not this matters this will probably remain unfinished project #9877586) I'm assuming you'd need a mod chip to play burned discs...
It's ironic that you say that. I'm all for punishment of those who were behind this atrocity, but I can't help watching the media with a critical eye. Last night I was watching a propaganda piece about muslims, listing their, in our culture "evil ways", basically pointing at them and saying look what they do they're DIFFERENT. All I could thing of was "five minute hate".
Bullshit my ass. Try reading the entire thread. The question was would this have happened had we not trained them. And my answer was yes. I know exactly why we trained them and that has nothing to do with it. You're analogy about death is meaningless, seriously try a little harder next time, it makes no sense.
Not to mention that that's one version of Windows versus the lifetime of mozilla. during which bugs were reported based on constant trial and error of the software in it's current unfinished state. And if you understoof the workings of bugzilla at all you'd realize that the word bug in this case also includes duplicates, RFE's, feature requests, stuff that isn't a bug in the strictest sense.
Ok don't train anybody, close our borders to everyone. No more immigration no more visas. Wait there may be some still here, ok all Muslims will be exiled. Oh wait, what if soemone converts. Damn, I guess we'll have to ship out anyone who doesn't pass a test for approved religions. Ok, problem solved, oh no I just had a thought, what if South America decides to start trouble. That's it all hispanics, get out. Oops we forgot about Africa, all you guys get out too, sorry, we just can't take any chances.
We can't help if the people we train and help turn on us. That's a fact of human nature, and has nothing to do with the situation at hand. But yes, I do believe that this event or one similar would have occured even if we had not trained bin Laden. We didn't train those that actually performed this deed though. And I'm really not sure what your question has to do with the quoted sentence.
As do I, but my first thought was that once it's known, or even suspected that a plane has been hijacked, it would be nice to be able to override the plane's manual controls from the ground and bring the people down to safety. Of course, like I said, that's one additional place tha would need very tight security so that hijackers couldn't take over a control room and do their evil there.
Bullshit, it was moronic fanatics that were so in-capable of thinking for themselves that they would sacrifice themselves for evil that killed those people. The blame cannot be placed on this country's policies in any way shape or form. Terrorist attacks have been going on for decades under various U.S. leaders and changing foreign policy. No matter what we do there will always be smaller countries (and people) who are envious of our prosperity and feel that they need to strike out. It's unfortunate that a tragedy like this becomes the vehichle for people like you to get on their political soap boxes.
Katz is an ass, and so are the people who, in this time of tragedy, join him in pointing fingers in judgment. But you are going a little too far. Guliani did what he thought was best and should be commended. It was not to show off any more that Bush's actions were an indication of hiding. These men and hundreds of thousands of others, be they rescue workers or government decision makers did what they felt was the most beneficial thing that they could do at the time.
This is not a time to point fingers at ourselves, I was disgusted last night watching some asshole rip into one person after another who could be connected with this act, from airport officials to intelligence agency members.
Nice thought but you're wrong. Planes running fly-by-wire are unsafe and just as dangerous, go read the computer risks forum (I'm too worn out and distracted to dig up the link). There are better solutions than pilotless aircraft. One thought that springs to mind is a fly-by-wire backup system in case of hijacking, of course this adds the risk that a plane (or worse planes) could be taken over simply by taking control of wherever the system is run from.
You're a fucking moron. Do you have any idea of the havoc and chaos that would have been created in this country had something happened to the president. The psychological impact would have most likely cost hundreds more innocent lives in the witch hunt that would have followed Bush's murder against anyone living in the country of middle east descent would have created even more problems.
Guiliani had a job to do... take care of his city. The president also had a job to do, take care of this country. Just because one was available to the media does not make him any more impressive or competent. There is a reason that the president's work was/is done outside of media attention as much as possible. Think before you speak.
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The suicide bombers are not the only ones responsible. There is someone behind this who funded, organized, and led this operation. There are people somewhere in the world who were celebrating the success of their plan. Someone is left who must be punished.
The suicide attackers are nothing more than pawns in this situation. They are brainwashed morons who've been convinced that killing Americans is the path to heaven. I imagine they're quite warm where they are right now.
I work in that sector as well, I'm not aware of any flames that we've gotten yet. However, it's not just the fact that it's an ad, it's that it is so intrusive and annoying. Especially since it popped up about two seconds after I started reading and right over the paragraph I was on.
Nice fucking ads on that page by the way. Wonderful of them to ask for help on the page and make money off of people trying to find out how they can contribute. That's the most annoying ad I have ever seen.
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And one way is to punish and destroy completely those responsible so that those that do try to come along in the future think twice about fucking with us.
Imagine this scenario, say we discover that it was Laden who was responsible. We demand that he and his closest men are turned over to us for execution, and imagine that Afghanistan complies.
Terrorist would then know that there is no where they can hide safely while they plan their acts of evil and depravity.
The message is simple, they have no respect for human life, they are no more than animals, worse because animals would never do this to themselves. I have no qaulms about detroying these people, to put the fear in them that our citizens are currently going through.
It doesn't matter that others will come along, the alternative is to let these people do whatever they want and that is simply wrong.
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That's ridiculous. I would have made the point in my first post becuase I knew that you would say that, I also knew you'd back off if I shot it down before you said it.
The fact is that you can be pro-life and feel that sacrificing yours to save the lives of many is a noble thing. It's not hard to imagine a pro-lifer who feels that it's worthy to sacrifice a few in order to save the lives of hundreds of unborn children. In fact it is a necessary conclusion for any pro-lifer to come to if the individual is seriously about saving lives.
Not that I can blame you for your mis-guided stance, members of any group like to believe that they are morally right and they would do nothing wrong, but this is simply not the case in the real world.
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As an American, well a citizen of the U.S. to be exact. That is an amazing thing to read. Thank you for sharing.
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How can you say that no one has ever suicide bombed an abortion clinic, and in the same sentence say that those who do( present tense) are not pro life? I'm not taking sides but think before you speak, especially in a hot issue like this.
Bullcrap. You can layout a magazine using LaTex. You can produce musiv in the same way with some creativity or here's a radical idea, use an instrument.
Besides the fact that raising productivity as a whole is more than you just creating art. If one hundred other users raise their productivity for every one of you, productivity is raised, regardless of the negative impact on yours.
Your speculation is bullshit. Your claims are groundless. Privacy advocates do not have the blood on their hands. It was lax security at the airports that caused this, and even they are not to blame. Those that are to blame are somewhere in the middle east giving each other high fives that their plan worked as well as it did.
No I don't question why these people feel this way, I don't care why these people feel this way. At this point they aren't people to me, they're animals.
You are right and wrong in your statement. You are right in the sense that if we were dealing with rational human beings, investigating both sides could probably resolve the issues. But you're wrong because we are not dealing with rational people. If they were they would have realized that they are only bringing pain and suffering down on themselves tenfold.
I wish that this didn't have to happen as well. But the fact is now that it has. What if somehow the terrorists responsible has gotten their hands on a nuke. Where would NY be now?
Number one, my last name has nothing to do with my nationality. That's a foolish assumption.
Number two they did kill somebody. So many innocent somebody's that we don't even have a count yet. This behavior encourages the kind of destruction that happened yesterday. Before yesterday I would not have cared less what those people thought. But when they give their support for terrorist scum they've crossed the line. If they did not exist it would not have happened.
As far as killing innocent civilians, I never suggested that. I suggested killing the people who are harbouring criminals and who would not give them up.
To lash out wildly is wrong of course, but to promise retaliation is not. Retaliation is not even the best word, punishment is.
As I watched the coverage today I saw a clip from Palestine with people celebrating in the streets. I would gladly put a bullet in every one of their heads young and old, and feel no pains in doing so.
When it gets to the point, where it has today, that thousands of innocents are killed because of the attitudes in other countries it no longer matters that humans are the same. There comes a time when we must protect our own, by whatever means necessary. None of those people celebrating in the streets today are innocents, that encourage this type of action.
In my mind there are two ways to handle this. Once the leader is discovered, and he/she will be discovered, the country harbouring the individual must turn him over to us for execution, or we destroy that country killing every man, woman, and child within it's borders. This time I was lucky, so far no one I know was a victim of this attack, but I will condone any action that makes sure that next time my family and friends are not among the casualties.
...yes, I was monitoring my servers at work from my home Linux box, after verifying that everything was fine I turned around... and my Windows box had crashed, it was the damndest thing < grin > .
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The root of this problem is that it can never, EVER work. Mainly because we have freedom of speech, they government can pass as many laws as it likes on legal encryption but they can't enforce them. Think of the civil-disobedient potenial. You could get thousand of people to send random encrypted gibberish to one another. Just because the government can't understand it doesn't make it illegal, what's the difference between that and encrypted meaningful information. The answer is none. This is all simply a case of communicating in a language that the government doesn't understand... all well within our rights.
Anyone have some informative links to info for coding on the original PS?
I don't even know where to start (not this matters this will probably remain unfinished project #9877586) I'm assuming you'd need a mod chip to play burned discs...
It's ironic that you say that. I'm all for punishment of those who were behind this atrocity, but I can't help watching the media with a critical eye. Last night I was watching a propaganda piece about muslims, listing their, in our culture "evil ways", basically pointing at them and saying look what they do they're DIFFERENT. All I could thing of was "five minute hate".
Bullshit my ass. Try reading the entire thread. The question was would this have happened had we not trained them. And my answer was yes. I know exactly why we trained them and that has nothing to do with it. You're analogy about death is meaningless, seriously try a little harder next time, it makes no sense.
#!/usr/bin/perl
The above script has NO bugs. Therefore any program does not necessaruly have at least one bug. QED.
Not to mention that that's one version of Windows versus the lifetime of mozilla. during which bugs were reported based on constant trial and error of the software in it's current unfinished state. And if you understoof the workings of bugzilla at all you'd realize that the word bug in this case also includes duplicates, RFE's, feature requests, stuff that isn't a bug in the strictest sense.
We can't help if the people we train and help turn on us. That's a fact of human nature, and has nothing to do with the situation at hand. But yes, I do believe that this event or one similar would have occured even if we had not trained bin Laden. We didn't train those that actually performed this deed though. And I'm really not sure what your question has to do with the quoted sentence.
As do I, but my first thought was that once it's known, or even suspected that a plane has been hijacked, it would be nice to be able to override the plane's manual controls from the ground and bring the people down to safety. Of course, like I said, that's one additional place tha would need very tight security so that hijackers couldn't take over a control room and do their evil there.
Bullshit, it was moronic fanatics that were so in-capable of thinking for themselves that they would sacrifice themselves for evil that killed those people. The blame cannot be placed on this country's policies in any way shape or form. Terrorist attacks have been going on for decades under various U.S. leaders and changing foreign policy. No matter what we do there will always be smaller countries (and people) who are envious of our prosperity and feel that they need to strike out. It's unfortunate that a tragedy like this becomes the vehichle for people like you to get on their political soap boxes.
This is not a time to point fingers at ourselves, I was disgusted last night watching some asshole rip into one person after another who could be connected with this act, from airport officials to intelligence agency members.
Nice thought but you're wrong. Planes running fly-by-wire are unsafe and just as dangerous, go read the computer risks forum (I'm too worn out and distracted to dig up the link). There are better solutions than pilotless aircraft. One thought that springs to mind is a fly-by-wire backup system in case of hijacking, of course this adds the risk that a plane (or worse planes) could be taken over simply by taking control of wherever the system is run from.
Guiliani had a job to do... take care of his city. The president also had a job to do, take care of this country. Just because one was available to the media does not make him any more impressive or competent. There is a reason that the president's work was/is done outside of media attention as much as possible. Think before you speak.
The suicide attackers are nothing more than pawns in this situation. They are brainwashed morons who've been convinced that killing Americans is the path to heaven. I imagine they're quite warm where they are right now.
I work in that sector as well, I'm not aware of any flames that we've gotten yet. However, it's not just the fact that it's an ad, it's that it is so intrusive and annoying. Especially since it popped up about two seconds after I started reading and right over the paragraph I was on.
Nice fucking ads on that page by the way. Wonderful of them to ask for help on the page and make money off of people trying to find out how they can contribute. That's the most annoying ad I have ever seen.
Imagine this scenario, say we discover that it was Laden who was responsible. We demand that he and his closest men are turned over to us for execution, and imagine that Afghanistan complies.
Terrorist would then know that there is no where they can hide safely while they plan their acts of evil and depravity.
The message is simple, they have no respect for human life, they are no more than animals, worse because animals would never do this to themselves. I have no qaulms about detroying these people, to put the fear in them that our citizens are currently going through.
It doesn't matter that others will come along, the alternative is to let these people do whatever they want and that is simply wrong.
The fact is that you can be pro-life and feel that sacrificing yours to save the lives of many is a noble thing. It's not hard to imagine a pro-lifer who feels that it's worthy to sacrifice a few in order to save the lives of hundreds of unborn children. In fact it is a necessary conclusion for any pro-lifer to come to if the individual is seriously about saving lives.
Not that I can blame you for your mis-guided stance, members of any group like to believe that they are morally right and they would do nothing wrong, but this is simply not the case in the real world.
As an American, well a citizen of the U.S. to be exact. That is an amazing thing to read. Thank you for sharing.
How can you say that no one has ever suicide bombed an abortion clinic, and in the same sentence say that those who do( present tense) are not pro life? I'm not taking sides but think before you speak, especially in a hot issue like this.
Besides the fact that raising productivity as a whole is more than you just creating art. If one hundred other users raise their productivity for every one of you, productivity is raised, regardless of the negative impact on yours.
Your speculation is bullshit. Your claims are groundless. Privacy advocates do not have the blood on their hands. It was lax security at the airports that caused this, and even they are not to blame. Those that are to blame are somewhere in the middle east giving each other high fives that their plan worked as well as it did.
You are right and wrong in your statement. You are right in the sense that if we were dealing with rational human beings, investigating both sides could probably resolve the issues. But you're wrong because we are not dealing with rational people. If they were they would have realized that they are only bringing pain and suffering down on themselves tenfold.
I wish that this didn't have to happen as well. But the fact is now that it has. What if somehow the terrorists responsible has gotten their hands on a nuke. Where would NY be now?
Number two they did kill somebody. So many innocent somebody's that we don't even have a count yet. This behavior encourages the kind of destruction that happened yesterday. Before yesterday I would not have cared less what those people thought. But when they give their support for terrorist scum they've crossed the line. If they did not exist it would not have happened.
As far as killing innocent civilians, I never suggested that. I suggested killing the people who are harbouring criminals and who would not give them up.
As I watched the coverage today I saw a clip from Palestine with people celebrating in the streets. I would gladly put a bullet in every one of their heads young and old, and feel no pains in doing so.
When it gets to the point, where it has today, that thousands of innocents are killed because of the attitudes in other countries it no longer matters that humans are the same. There comes a time when we must protect our own, by whatever means necessary. None of those people celebrating in the streets today are innocents, that encourage this type of action.
In my mind there are two ways to handle this. Once the leader is discovered, and he/she will be discovered, the country harbouring the individual must turn him over to us for execution, or we destroy that country killing every man, woman, and child within it's borders. This time I was lucky, so far no one I know was a victim of this attack, but I will condone any action that makes sure that next time my family and friends are not among the casualties.
...yes, I was monitoring my servers at work from my home Linux box, after verifying that everything was fine I turned around ... and my Windows box had crashed, it was the damndest thing < grin > .