so you defended a group of islands across the globe from you against the country nearest them? thank goodness. of course me being an american i really have no room to talk, but hey it never stopped me before.
" Yes, the SAS could raid them, but that would effectively mean that the UK had declared war on another nation. That wouldn't be a particularly good PR exercise."
and the UK would *NEVER* want any bad PR(ahem falkland islands ahem)
thats why you put nukes(lots o them) way down deep in the moon, and if they nuke you, you destroy the moon, then earth gets radioactive fallout and no more tides and numerous other effects. MAD's a bitch.
it'd be more like breaking in, spraying your name on the inside of the window and locking up when you left.
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"Putting 3/4 of the human race in 3rd-world lifestyles to support our's started this war.
Sorry to disappoint you, but if much of the rest of the world is not as rich as the US, it's not because we made them poor, it's because they insist on clinging to corrupt and backwards economic systems which produce poverty wherever they are tried. We've provided a shining example to the world of how free markets lead to improved standards of living at all levels of society. If they won't follow our example, it's up to them to come up with something as good, not up to us to keep paying them off..." corrupt and backwards? you mean like the neoliberal model that the world bank has been pushing on the 3rd world for the last 50 years? looks how well it worked for argentina. and everyone said they were doing good.
"And the CIA school of the america's training, among many other's, some middle-eastern prince named Osama Bin Laden to help take down the soviets DEFINETLY started this war.
This absurd claim has been thoroughly discredited in, among many other places, this article [tnr.com] in The New Republic (which is hardly a mainstream or conservative publication). Sorry to disappoint you, but your claim here is pure fiction. "
first off TNC is a conservative publication. second, despite the fact that we have trained and/or armed EVERY enemy we have faught since WW2. al qaida would not exist if not for the cia. and all those terrorist training camps, 20 years ago they were cia training camps.
"Who the bloody hell did you think started it?
Oh gee, I don't know, maybe the band of madmen who declared war on us, our culture, and our way of life? Who killed 3,000 people in downtown Manhattan, Pennsylvania, and Washington on September 11, while trying to kill ten times that many? Who are even now planning further attacks which, if not stopped, could be much deadlier than the attacks of September 11? Ya think they might have something to do with it? "
of course, repeat the party line, they attacked us because we're free, they attacked us because we're free. and yes they are planning further attacks. you want to know how to stop them, it easy. stop giving military aid to isreal, pull out of saudi arabia(we've already started this), and now pull out of afghanistan.
"Or are you too caught up with trying to find ways to blame us for September 11? I thought you lefties were against blaming the victim?"
boo fucking hoo 3000 people died. how many palestinians died in the occupation this year? how many columbians died because of the american puppet govt.? how many venezuelans almost died because of a CIA instigated coup. how many vietnamese nationalist died defending thier country. how many hondurans, salvadoreans, afghans, serbs, guatamalans, grenadans, panamanians, and americans have died from the actions of the US govt?
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they also bought the panama canal as soon as we left. more specifically a chinese corporation bought the canal and all chinese corps are run by the party.
yes, believe the doomsday hype. even tho it would be easier to cut electricity in the physical world. and if the US really has nuclear reactors that can be dialed into, they deserve it.
first off we are not "just as bad" in a cultural sense. only in a death sense. second buchanan is the closes ideolog to bin laden..
yes i do seee a difference. america(tm) pushes the buttons for our bombs and the muslims have to sacrifice accuale people.
PS i dont think that any ideology or country that convinces people to die and kill for it is "right" in any true sense of the word. (nothing personal) PPS i hope that you will stop the use of the word islamist or islamic, because anyone who believes in islam is muslim.
ok so 19 muslim men had the gall to kill themsleves and take 2000-3000 people with them as well as 2 buildings. the only reason americans find this so damn evil is because it happened to us. what about the tens of thousands of people that have died in dictatorial regimes suported by the US. or the thousands of US citizens that have been killed by the government. why doesnt pat buchanan condemn the war in afghanistan, it kills children?
and as for muslim(there is no such word as islamic) leaders not condemning it, well politics are politics. I'm certainly not trying to be an apologist for the attacks i'm just pointing out that we are just as bad.
you're right, the christians and the jews just drop bomb and shoot little kids. i am very disapointed in the christian and jewish communities failure to condemn these actions.
and if I ride my bike without a helmet and get hit you have to pay my medical bills. or if i eat lots of twinkies and get fat and have a heart attack you have to pay my medical bills. or if i get aids from unprotected sex you have to pay my medical bills or if i trip on a staircase aand hurt myself you have to pay my medical bills. should we require helmets for bikes, and oatlaw twinkies, unprotected sex and staircases. PS if i dont wear a seatbelt it will cost you less in medical bills because i'm more likely to die, same with motorcycle helmets. PPS after motorcycle helmets were required in CA the number of organ donors dropped in half.
Voting, ha. they can surveille whoever they want now and you think the secret police will allow any real political change to take place in this country. ever heard of CoIntelPro. And that was before environmental resistance and the government said Dancing is terrorism
well maybe becasue they have document that a blind or deaf person would want to access. this isnt just about a law, the reason the law was passed was so that people with disabilities can have the same access as the rest of us, or at least comparable.
moderators come on, insightful, he said ignore the problem. that has never been an insightful solution to any problem.
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i dont care if you attack socialism, it would be nice if you could support your arguement against it. If you dont then you will never convince any one you are right and what would the point be then?
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" But the Falklanders felt British, and wanted to stay that way, and asked for our help"
you should have said this in the first place, this is what really makes the diffference.
so you defended a group of islands across the globe from you against the country nearest them? thank goodness.
of course me being an american i really have no room to talk, but hey it never stopped me before.
" Yes, the SAS could raid them, but that would effectively mean that the UK had declared war on another nation. That wouldn't be a particularly good PR exercise."
and the UK would *NEVER* want any bad PR(ahem falkland islands ahem)
thats why you put nukes(lots o them) way down deep in the moon, and if they nuke you, you destroy the moon, then earth gets radioactive fallout and no more tides and numerous other effects.
MAD's a bitch.
it'd be more like breaking in, spraying your name on the inside of the window and locking up when you left.
"Putting 3/4 of the human race in 3rd-world lifestyles to support our's started this war.
Sorry to disappoint you, but if much of the rest of the world is not as rich as the US, it's not because we made them poor, it's because they insist on clinging to corrupt and backwards economic systems which produce poverty wherever they are tried. We've provided a shining example to the world of how free markets lead to improved standards of living at all levels of society. If they won't follow our example, it's up to them to come up with something as good, not up to us to keep paying them off..."
corrupt and backwards? you mean like the neoliberal model that the world bank has been pushing on the 3rd world for the last 50 years? looks how well it worked for argentina. and everyone said they were doing good.
"And the CIA school of the america's training, among many other's, some middle-eastern prince named Osama Bin Laden to help take down the soviets DEFINETLY started this war.
This absurd claim has been thoroughly discredited in, among many other places, this article [tnr.com] in The New Republic (which is hardly a mainstream or conservative publication). Sorry to disappoint you, but your claim here is pure fiction. "
first off TNC is a conservative publication. second, despite the fact that we have trained and/or armed EVERY enemy we have faught since WW2. al qaida would not exist if not for the cia. and all those terrorist training camps, 20 years ago they were cia training camps.
"Who the bloody hell did you think started it?
Oh gee, I don't know, maybe the band of madmen who declared war on us, our culture, and our way of life? Who killed 3,000 people in downtown Manhattan, Pennsylvania, and Washington on September 11, while trying to kill ten times that many? Who are even now planning further attacks which, if not stopped, could be much deadlier than the attacks of September 11? Ya think they might have something to do with it? "
of course, repeat the party line, they attacked us because we're free, they attacked us because we're free. and yes they are planning further attacks. you want to know how to stop them, it easy. stop giving military aid to isreal, pull out of saudi arabia(we've already started this), and now pull out of afghanistan.
"Or are you too caught up with trying to find ways to blame us for September 11? I thought you lefties were against blaming the victim?"
boo fucking hoo 3000 people died. how many palestinians died in the occupation this year? how many columbians died because of the american puppet govt.? how many venezuelans almost died because of a CIA instigated coup. how many vietnamese nationalist died defending thier country. how many hondurans, salvadoreans, afghans, serbs, guatamalans, grenadans, panamanians, and americans have died from the actions of the US govt?
they also bought the panama canal as soon as we left. more specifically a chinese corporation bought the canal and all chinese corps are run by the party.
yes, believe the doomsday hype.
even tho it would be easier to cut electricity in the physical world.
and if the US really has nuclear reactors that can be dialed into, they deserve it.
i bet they had better security than MS.
the corporate media would never try to discredit a movement that opposes corporations. right?
yeah but voyager and DS9 had decent plotlines
'They are not courts, they cannot judge what is and is not legal copying, particularly when you factor in that the copyright will ultimately expire.'
if there is a disc that is copy protected and it becomes public domain, is it still illegal under DMCA to copy it?
so if anything i do could cost you your taxpayer money then it should be regulated?
i used pat buchanan as an example of christian fundamentalism.
first off we are not "just as bad" in a cultural sense. only in a death sense. second buchanan is the closes ideolog to bin laden..
yes i do seee a difference. america(tm) pushes the buttons for our bombs and the muslims have to sacrifice accuale people.
PS i dont think that any ideology or country that convinces people to die and kill for it is "right" in any true sense of the word.
(nothing personal) PPS i hope that you will stop the use of the word islamist or islamic, because anyone who believes in islam is muslim.
at least it wasnt "enterprise".
T&A star trek isnt real Star Trek.
techno-eutopians!!!!!!
(i think thats bad)
ok so 19 muslim men had the gall to kill themsleves and take 2000-3000 people with them as well as 2 buildings. the only reason americans find this so damn evil is because it happened to us. what about the tens of thousands of people that have died in dictatorial regimes suported by the US. or the thousands of US citizens that have been killed by the government. why doesnt pat buchanan condemn the war in afghanistan, it kills children?
and as for muslim(there is no such word as islamic) leaders not condemning it, well politics are politics. I'm certainly not trying to be an apologist for the attacks i'm just pointing out that we are just as bad.
you're right, the christians and the jews just drop bomb and shoot little kids. i am very disapointed in the christian and jewish communities failure to condemn these actions.
and if I ride my bike without a helmet and get hit you have to pay my medical bills.
or if i eat lots of twinkies and get fat and have a heart attack you have to pay my medical bills.
or if i get aids from unprotected sex you have to pay my medical bills
or if i trip on a staircase aand hurt myself you have to pay my medical bills.
should we require helmets for bikes, and oatlaw twinkies, unprotected sex and staircases.
PS if i dont wear a seatbelt it will cost you less in medical bills because i'm more likely to die, same with motorcycle helmets.
PPS after motorcycle helmets were required in CA the number of organ donors dropped in half.
unfortunately terrorism is a product of US foreign policy, but also a product of other things as well.
Voting, ha. they can surveille whoever they want now and you think the secret police will allow any real political change to take place in this country. ever heard of CoIntelPro. And that was before environmental resistance and the government said Dancing is terrorism
dont most sites do this now anyway?
moderators come on, insightful, he said ignore the problem. that has never been an insightful solution to any problem.
i dont care if you attack socialism, it would be nice if you could support your arguement against it. If you dont then you will never convince any one you are right and what would the point be then?