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Trek Prop Collecting

bluethundr writes "Uhm... Is Star Trek just not considered geeky anymore? Must I turn in my Local Geek Union 508 membership Card? Holy freakin' crap! Did I miss a memo somewhere, or did I fail to notice a story on /. about the one and only CAPTAIN'S CHAIR from the freakin' ENTERPRISE (...no bloody A, B, C or D) being up for auction on eBay? To be had, no doubt for about the amount of a small-to-mid-sized suburban home in the NE USofA." bluethundr continues on his 12-step program below.

bluethundr continues: "And while we're at it. I admit it. I am an Okudagram collector. I go nuts and drain my bank account every time I see one of the control panels from the Enterprise (which I believe to be authentic and usually TNG's D, as that's all my bankroll will allow) on eBay and my home server room looks like a federation outpost. If you weren't aware, the Okudagrams from the show come in the form of black-tinted plexi that has a patterned film applied to it with photographic gels to add color and vellum affixed to said plexi with black masking tape. The idea is to backlight them for the effect they achieved on the sets of lighted control panels. Collecting these things, you get a feeling for what's authentic hollywood material and what's a cheap fanboy knockoff. I can't help but wonder if I am the only /.er to engage in this eccentric hobby... By the way, several control panels from the 1701 (including Spock's Science Station computer!) as well as an array of other authentic stuff from the 60s is also to be had for a (very) tidy sum on "the world's online marketplace"....By the way, I am trying to curb this habit of mine, hence this submission. :-|"

219 comments

  1. almost first post. by thefuckedupgenius · · Score: 0, Troll

    worth a shot. sadly, the amount of trek props in your house is inversely proportional (proportionate?) to the times laid while residing in said house.

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    1. Re:almost first post. by funkhauser · · Score: 5, Funny
      Yeah, but wouldn't it be cool to perform some sort of sexual act while sitting in Captain Kirk's chair? I mean... the very thought of it is almost too insane to consider.

    2. Re:almost first post. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Insane? That is definately the first thought in every young nerds head, when he hear these news.

      "Now I can have sex (with myself) in cpt Kirk's chair! For only $150.000! What a bargain!"

    3. Re:almost first post. by uncleFester · · Score: 5, Funny

      wouldn't it be cool to perform some sort of sexual act while sitting in Captain Kirk's chair?

      oh come one.. any poor sod can sit in front of his monitor playing Personal Whack-A-Mole without plonking down $80K.

      ... oh, did you mean with someone else?

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    4. Re:almost first post. by riflemann · · Score: 1

      Are you implying that trekkies actually get the opportunity to perform sexual acts?

      Unless you mean "alone"...

    5. Re:almost first post. by isorox · · Score: 2

      but wouldn't it be cool to perform some sort of sexual act while sitting in Captain Kirk's chair?

      Most slashdot readers would think it would be cool to perform some sort of sexual act Full Stop.

    6. Re:almost first post. by echucker · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but wouldn't it be cool to perform some sort of sexual act while sitting in Captain Kirk's chair?

      It appears someone already did- note the stain on the rug. Either that, or someone had a wicked party, and spilled a big glass of synthohol. ;-)

    7. Re:almost first post. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like typing one-handed?

    8. Re:almost first post. by Xtifr · · Score: 2

      ... oh, did you mean with someone else?

      I wonder if the kind of person who would lust after this chair would even be aware that sex can be a multi-participant activity? :)

    9. Re:almost first post. by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      Most slashdot readers would think it would be cool to perform some sort of sexual act Full Stop."

      That probably would have gotten a +1 funny if it hadn't been the same thought on everybody's minds. Heh.

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  2. FIRST ANTI CLIT POST!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love you.

  3. You're not a geek unless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...your first thoughts upon seeing the chair is how nice it would be to fap to Uhura while sitting in it. :D

    1. Re:You're not a geek unless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I must not be a geek then, because my first thought was: "Now I can own the chair in which William Shatner has farted! (and possibly some other ST celebreties too)".

      That is so cool!

    2. Re:You're not a geek unless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I picture it now. The owner with his face in the seat, trying to detect the farts of the original cast, and then inviting his friends over to do the same.

      *shudder*

  4. The sound of Trek by hazyshadeofwinter · · Score: 1

    You'd've loved the 60s Hammond combo organ we had when I was growing up, mash enough keys at once=instant (TOS) transporter/phaser sounds. And as far as "No longer considered geeky", well, Trek still has a place in the Geek Code, right?

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    1. Re:The sound of Trek by mofolotopo · · Score: 1

      Fie. Organ shmorgan, I'm getting a theremin for my birthday! Now that's the REAL sound of sci-fi. And you wanna know what's super geeky? My wife is building it for me! There's just something soooo sexy about a woman with a soldering iron...

  5. *sniff sniff* by molrak · · Score: 4, Funny

    Something smells like NERD around here.... *checks armpits for odor* Oh crap, it's just me! *droooool* But seriously, after all the pounds that Shatner put on during the series, I'd be worried that the chair has already developed its own ass groove that, while priceless in trek history, just would not work well with my own ass.

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    1. Re:*sniff sniff* by Subcarrier · · Score: 1

      But seriously, after all the pounds that Shatner put on during the series, I'd be worried that the chair has already developed its own ass groove that, while priceless in trek history, just would not work well with my own ass.

      Just wiggle in deep and imagine you're Kaptain Quirk.

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    2. Re:*sniff sniff* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better than wiggling deep inside of Captain Kirk...

  6. Star Trek still considered geeky by rob-fu · · Score: 0

    I conducted a survey on the street, and it's official -- a resounding 94% considered Star Trek, even after the increasing popularity of William Shatner, to be a show for nerds. Thank you.

    1. Re:Star Trek still considered geeky by AoT · · Score: 0

      techno-eutopians!!!!!!
      (i think thats bad)

  7. Gels stuck to plexiglas.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. is a very old studio trick. You can identify them immediately in movie scenes if you've ever seen them in person.

    Authentic Hollywood material / cheap knock off? What's the difference? Only a fool would expect to acquire a real control panel from the flight or engineering deck.

    What an ass.

  8. The stain... by Linux+Freak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is pretty cool, although I can think of a number of other things I would prefer to use the minimum $80,000 bid on.

    I wonder about that stain on the base. Looks like coffee. It would be interesting if that was the result of an accident (on set, or after the chair was given to the collector), or was caused by Captain Kirk holding a drink which was dropped due to an incoming photon torpedo. :^D

    1. Re:The stain... by LEPP · · Score: 1

      I was actually thinking that the stain came from Kirk pissing himself when he saw the Klingons coming.

    2. Re:The stain... by Technopuke · · Score: 1

      Sorry, a coffee stain would gradually turn black over time-- I'm banking on 'Tribble-Piss' as the actual culprit.

      Or, it could have been during Spock's 'redneck period' where he took up spitting tabacky and was known for soiling several areas of the Enterprise before the writers turned the idea off. Imagine the nerve of some vulcan scratching his balls while giving the "live long and prosper" sign.

    3. Re:The stain... by bluethundr · · Score: 1

      "This is pretty cool, although I can think of a number of other things I would prefer to use the minimum $80,000 bid on." Indeed, sir. As would I. As much as I would think this is a neat thing, I am not even close to draining my 401k. :|

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  9. Nice Scene by redgekko · · Score: 2, Funny
    I love how they choose to feature a scene where the crew is strewn lifeless across the bridge floor. That's what you get for not having seatbelts!

    Do the switches on the armrests remind anyone of an electric organ?

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  10. Is it just me or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is that a coffee stain on the right back corner of the chairs podium carpet. Or did Kirk have a a puppy on the set :)

    hook

  11. What I want to know is.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who stained the pedestal, and how?

  12. 18% fee for ebay? by cdf12345 · · Score: 1

    I thought $80,000 starting bid was bad, but look, Ebay getting an 18% premium of the selling price is even more outrageous.

    That's insane!
    That makes the min price for the chair $94,400.

    I thought seller paid the fees.... geech.

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  13. It was worth more 10 years ago ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    before "Voyager" soiled the name of Star Trek

    1. Re:It was worth more 10 years ago ... by AoT · · Score: 1

      at least it wasnt "enterprise".
      T&A star trek isnt real Star Trek.

    2. Re:It was worth more 10 years ago ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey, I liked voyager.
      I also liked DS9, I guess I just have a horrible taste in shows.

    3. Re:It was worth more 10 years ago ... by stefanjo · · Score: 1

      No you dont. Voyager was good and Ds9 was great!

    4. Re:It was worth more 10 years ago ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess that makes TOS not real star trek either.

    5. Re:It was worth more 10 years ago ... by AoT · · Score: 1

      yeah but voyager and DS9 had decent plotlines

  14. Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by Hyperbolix · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hate to say it, but your statement that Star Trek is no longer geeky is actually somewhat true. There is a growing trend amoung 15 to 25 year old hicks who are into country music to watch ST:TNG episodes, and said market has been eagerly captured by TNN, who have rebranded themselves as the "New" TNN. It seems now that whenever there isn't anything good on, I come crawling back to the old episodes that got me through so many lonely nights in junior high... when all the normal, "popular" people were off wasting there money at the movies and at the mall. Fortunately, having not wasted my money on such silly things, I have enough money to buy such an item... oh wait... I forgot... I didn't save it, I bought RAM instead. :(
    - Hyperbolix

    1. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They may have wasted their money, but better than wasting their time watching TV.

    2. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, you watch people interact on TV because you don't interact with people in real life? Or maybe you never learned how to interact with people properly in
      the first place, because you learned to interact with people from the television?

      Not the fault of your parents or yourself. Your parents probably loved you well enough but they probably didn't know that television is something you need to
      protect children from. Might as well of had a team of psychiatrists visiting little
      Johnny after school to take turns conditioning him like he were one of Pavlov's dogs.

      Now, later on in life, all those little hooks they planted are still there, and they continue to reel you towards the screen so you might get your daily dose of conditiing as an adult. It's a little more work for them to do it to you, since their technique weren't as polished back in the days you were trained. But it's worth the effort, so long as they can keep you coming back.

      This will be modded down immedietly since most of you have been conditioned to consider people who dislike television to be cranks. But it's the truth. Kill your TV.

    3. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by g4dget · · Score: 2, Insightful
      There is a growing trend amoung 15 to 25 year old hicks who are into country music to watch ST:TNG episodes,

      There are worse things "15 to 25 year old hicks" could watch than a show that teaches them some degree of tolerance and responsibility.

    4. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Huh? Watching Star Trek makes you a better person? How about it just turns your brain into mush, like the rest of the overrated tripe on TV.

    5. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TNG fans looking down on hick television? What's this, the bottom feeders of the information food chain having class warfare? You guys are playing king of the hill over a pile of poop. You can't pass judgement that your fanship of a TV program makes you superior to a fan of another program, because you're both fans of a null information medium. It's like fighting over the corn in poop.

    6. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by Foundryman · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid I've noticed the same thing. Even before TNN started showing TNG I was noticing a large number of red necks and hicks saying things like "Ah shore lahk that thar Star Trek show!" with a big grin missing half a dozen teeth.
      Of course, I used to be glued to the TV, whenever Star Trek was on, back in the 70s when I was in elementary school.

    7. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by Foundryman · · Score: 1

      Yes, there was an occasional good message in the shows, but I'm afraid most of the hick audience is watching because of all the shiny and flashy things that "look real purdy".

    8. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Growing trend? Source, please.

      TNN dropped the "Nashville Network" from its name, and is re-inventing itself as a "normal" cable channel. Most likely due to declining ratings. How better to get an instant leg up than to purchase a series guaranteed to bring the kind of viewers your station wants? While they watch Star Trek: The Political Correctness, endless advertising for other TNN programming is constantly broadcast. TNN is operated by MTV Networks, a division of, wait for it...Viacom

      TNG isn't science fiction at all...it's a drama, set on a starship. The series is about the interactions between people and cultures. The writers merely put [TECH] when something is required to be explained, and someone else comes up with the technobabble later. They never discuss science-y, Tom Clancyish things like the exact capabilites of the ship's sensors or weapons. How many photon torpedoes does it take to get to the chewy candy center of a Romulan warbird? The world may never know.

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    9. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think he has a source, other than recordings that the network plays back of fans calling in saying how much they love their shows, some of them have a "hick" accent.

    10. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by ealar+dlanvuli · · Score: 1

      I crack up laughing when I hear them

      they all scare me

      /cry

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    11. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If TV were so powerful as a conditioning tool, why is it so many people (usually over 10% in most countries) are apt to pirate it?

      Methinks you simply have a baseless accusation that makes no sense. Perhaps you should go on TNNs conspiracy theory show...

    12. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by bluethundr · · Score: 1

      Me too, eh. I started watching Trek when I was 5 years old. I was so brainwashed by Trek, that when Star Wars eventually came out I thought just because it was science fiction it was a cheap knockoff of Trek. But, hey, I was 7. I saw the difference to appreciate both in about a week, I think. Holy SHIT dude! I AM a hick! *sob*

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    13. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by SN74S181 · · Score: 1

      Offtopic, but did you know what D.A.R.E. really stands for?

      Drugs Aren't Right for Everybody.

      But they never mention that in the D.A.R.E. lectures and rants.

    14. Re:Star Trek TNG on the "New" TNN by trapvector · · Score: 1

      Odd. When I saw all the TNG on TNN, I thought the network may have been trying to distance themselves from the rednecks, what with calling themselves The National Network and the sci-fi and all...

      But hey, rednecks watching TNG? Maybe someday they'll even catch on to the underlying morals of compassion, honor, tolerance, and having some chick with a low-cut tunic always bringing up the painfully obvious. *bridge on fire* "Captain, I sense a feeling of danger among the crew!"

  15. Well.. by Sneaky_Jesus · · Score: 1

    It could be that you forgot to use the new cover sheet on your T.P.S. reports and no one bothered to tell you.

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    1. Re:Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "PC Load Letter"? WTF does that mean?

  16. An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Joel+Rowbottom · · Score: 5, Interesting
    In the early 1990's I was involved in a Star Trek club here in England (that'll be Wakefield Starfleet, affiliated with the NSFA). I spent my pocket money, and subsequently my Saturday-job money, on Trek books and memorabilia. It was good back then because we hadn't been overloaded with books, comics, magazines, figurines, playsets, videos, special-edition videos, DVDs, CDs, blah blah blah blah blah. I went to the occasional convention in the UK as funds would allow, and enjoyed watching episodes of Classic and Next Gen.

    As time went on I went to University and lost interest around the time of Deep Space Nine, when Berman took over and made it into a 'franchise'. I think I've seen a total of 10 episodes of Voyager, but it didn't really 'inspire' me. Sure, the films give me a bit of a 'buzz' - I've bought them on DVD - but that was about it.

    Now, some 10 years later, I'm moving house and find all my old stuff - the uniforms I made, the books, etc. So I decide to eBay the books (a collection of around 100 Trek books, including original 1960's editions) and it goes for £50. That's about $75 in your money. Pathetic, isn't it? I see the huge amount of Trek crap on eBay, and there's lots of people selling it but nobody really buying it.

    Now I'm not even bothering with the rest of the stuff like the comics, etc. because the hassle of me shipping them to a buyer outweighs the benefit of the money in my bank account - may as well just stuff them in the attic and wait until someone comes along who might want them.

    I can't seem to find any decent conventions or clubs in the UK either - all the clubs which sprang up (anyone remember Ten Forward, or the National Starfleet Alliance?) have long since disappeared.

    Perhaps we've all just grown up. Or the constant milking of the 'franchise' left us all with sour tastes in the mouth. Me, I'm married with a kid now and enjoy watching Enterprise with my wife, and still I can't bring myself to throw out the old uniforms. They'll do for a fancy dress party I suppose ;)

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    1. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me, I'm married with a kid now and enjoy watching Enterprise with my wife, You give hope to geeks everywhere

    2. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Wakefield Starfleet

      Wakefield has a starfleet now? Last time I looked, it didn't even have a bowling alley or McDonalds.

    3. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps people just finally saw Star Trek for what it is - a massive overhyped and overmilked franchise that was never anything more than a network TV filler that took off. It kept mediocre actors in work and pathetic people obsessed for decades longer than it should have. But the writers loved it - where else could you work on a 23 minute show that only ever needed 11 minutes of plot? Rely on Shatner to ham it up and your work's half done!

      If you have sat through one episode of Star Trek but you haven't seen Galaxy Quest (1999, movie with Tim Allen, Sigourney Weaver etc.) you really should.

    4. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by SEWilco · · Score: 1
      "So I decide to eBay the books...and it goes for £50. That's about $75 in your money. ...lots of people selling it but nobody really buying it."

      You know you're a real Star Trek fanatic when you buy your memorabilia from yourself.

    5. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Zillatron · · Score: 1
      I think I've seen a total of 10 episodes of Voyager

      Oooh, did you get to see the one where they almost got off the island??

    6. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Hey, jerk, maybe that's true about TNG and later, but there was no sci-fi on TV at all before Star Trek came along with no fucking A, B, C, or colons. For the geeky kid in the 70s (this is before the internet, if you can believe that...I thought I was one of the only ones who liked Star Trek, people made fun of me for watching it) Star Trek was an hour of blessed escapism with my hero, Mr. Spock.

    7. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Foundryman · · Score: 1

      Books never seem to do well on eBay, from the sellers point of view.
      Like you, I decided to unload a bunch of my old Star Trek stuff that I'd gotten way back in the 1970s.
      It was about 2 years ago and went something like:
      Phaser Battle (electronic game) : $75
      Bridge Play Set : $50
      Large Action Figures (10" or so) : $15-30 each
      About 10 years ago I sold issues 1-10 of the Gold Key Star Trek comics but I forget now what I got for them...close to $100 for the first one and it went down from there. They weren't in the best of shape or I'm sure I'd have gotten more.

    8. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by ealar+dlanvuli · · Score: 1

      Similar situation here, it's not that rare.

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    9. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Lost in Space predates it by a year.

    10. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Star Trek was (and is) a me-too response from an uninspired gang of marketroids interested only in pimping advertising space.

    11. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by bluethundr · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. Lost in space may have predated it, but how can you even begin to compare that Irwin Allen assembly line TV to what Gene Roddenberry created. And I'm fairly sure it provided no inspiration. However, I'd bet a box of donuts that Ed Wood provided a lot of the inspiration that Irwin Allen used to make Lost In Space. Lots of people like to say "Freud is an irrelevant madman". But how many other scientists of his genertion are people still bringing up in the 21st century? Just the fact that Trek endures lends it at least SOME credence. All we got from LIS was that crappy movie a couple of years ago with "Joey" from friends...

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    12. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 2

      I think the moment everything started to cost an arm and a leg started the downturn with me that and teh fact our local affliate moved teh shows arouns like every week because we were nto a fulltime UPN affiliate. Also, it seems, to me they are not bringing new shows/stuff out as often as they used to. Enterprise is a good show, but the should have continued into the future (say where the TIme Ship in Voyager came from). I would have liked to see the Domnion War finish and a few other things like that. I also find it funny the Figures I used to pay 6 bucks for I can get at Big Lots for 2.99. Also our local "Sci-FI" Convention does more stuff about fantasy (dragons and crap) then hard science sci-fi (as goofy as soem of it is, Star Trek is what I consider hard Sci Fi along with Star Wars....b5 is alittle too mistifying for me).

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    13. Re:An Ex-Trek Fan Speaks About The Club Scene by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Just the fact that Trek endures..."

      all that proves is the tendency of sad people to idolize utter shite. You might as well mention that some people still enjoy listening to the Macarena.

      How many scientists of Freud's generation are people still bringing up? I'll let you think about that one yourself. It was one of the most rapid periods of advancement the world has seen.

  17. The real source of that stain by seldolivaw · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I did not sleep with that ensign..."

  18. Faint sense of disgust by 00_NOP · · Score: 0, Troll

    I have to say I feel that looking an auction for a studio prop that starts at $80,000 in a world while around one quarter of children go to bed hungry.

    I know, I know, even by typing this I am compromising with the system, but doesn't anybody else feel uneasy about the celebration of this sort of thing?

    1. Re:Faint sense of disgust by isorox · · Score: 2

      but doesn't anybody else feel uneasy about the celebration of this sort of thing?

      No.

    2. Re:Faint sense of disgust by k98sven · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have to say I feel that looking an auction for a studio prop that starts at $80,000 in a world while around one quarter of children go to bed hungry.

      Are you suggesting that I pay hungry kids to let me sit on them? You cynical bastard!

    3. Re:Faint sense of disgust by thales · · Score: 2

      People who PRETEND to be concerned about theose hungry children instead of doing something about it are the disgusting ones. Why aren't you out raising funds to feed the children instead of trolling Slashdot?

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    4. Re:Faint sense of disgust by SEWilco · · Score: 1
      What are you looking for? hungry children
      1 items found for hungry children
      • Price: $6.99
      • Bids: -
      • Ends: Jun-12 19:37

      There doesn't seem to be much of a market for hungry children. There's more of a market for computers; you can sell yours, go to Somalia, buy a farm and participate.

    5. Re:Faint sense of disgust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to wonder how often you make that comparison with various things in your everyday life. How many children could have been fed if they'd not installed a fire hydrant in front of your house. How many kids could live off the box of poptarts you push aside to get to the crack pipe hidden in your kitchen cabinet. I think you have issues in your life you cannot come to grips with, so those issues are projected into your world in the form of "the needy people" and how they are not being helped.

    6. Re:Faint sense of disgust by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2
      [Helen Lovejoy]

      Won't somebody please think of the children!

      [/Helen Lovejoy]

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    7. Re:Faint sense of disgust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      spending 80k on a chair: gets respent somewhere, expanding the conomy

      spending money on feeding poor: money gets eaten

      yep, good economic policy there. Unfortunatly, as much as it sucks people are starving, the only way to fix it is to anex them and give each and every one welfare; whats that? you don't think thats a good idea? oh neither do I.

    8. Re:Faint sense of disgust by 00_NOP · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's right. When you express an issue of political concern that you don't like, it's a troll.

      Moron.

    9. Re:Faint sense of disgust by charnerd · · Score: 1
      Famine is ALWAYS caused by political problems.

      Since when have geeks been good at politics?

    10. Re:Faint sense of disgust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take your pick, 80k for the chair, 20 mil+ for Lance Bass.

    11. Re:Faint sense of disgust by Harmast · · Score: 2

      I'm digusted that you can justify using time to post on /. that could be used cooking for those hungry children and using money that could go to feeding them to buy net time to post on /. and using electricity that could be used to cook food for them to post on /.

      Or does your luxury (time on the computer) somehow not have to follow the same rules as the luxury of some collector?

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      Again, feel free to sentence me to death if my questions annoy you. I'll come back in 5 minutes anyway. -Sythi
    12. Re:Faint sense of disgust by thales · · Score: 2

      " Yes, that's right. When you express an issue of political concern that you don't like, it's a troll."

      Feel Better?
      That is all the people who post drivel like this are looking for. A Quick dose of feel-goodism, WITHOUT the effort of actually doing something about those poor kids they pretend to feel soooo much pity for.

      Hey you got your freebie good feeling in, how many of those kids got full bellies out of your worthless post?

      IF you really care about those damn kids, then get off your lazy ass and do something to raise money to feed them instead of expressing hollow empty messages of "political concern" that are nothing but covers for envy that someone has the money to blow on something as stupid as an old TV prop.

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    13. Re:Faint sense of disgust by trapvector · · Score: 1

      What would you do, send the money to Zimbabwe? So the government can appropriate it for a civil war?

      No, that would be silly, you say. You plan to give the money to Save the Children. Surprise! A hefty chunk of your 80 large goes to some white evangelist, under the guise of "administrative expenses." (More like an expensive administrator.) The rest goes to food, sure, but along with the food comes a healthy dose of Christian dogma, with the suggestion that one's indigenous beliefs be espoused in favor of the nice white woman with food who's always filming commercials in the trash dump.

      Or you could move to any one of a number of war-torn African countries and try to farm, until you were harassed and possibly killed by either the recognized government or nationalist rebels.

      I tell you what I'm going to do, though - I'll spend the pittance of time and money I have from being a wage-slave on helping to solve problems that hit a little closer to home, and that are more in my realm of control (such as the ongoing effort for homosexuals and homosexual unions to be afforded the same social and financial perks that any other committed couple in the USA is entitled to).

      After I finish trolling /., that is.

    14. Re:Faint sense of disgust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahahah... For some reason I really find that funny...

    15. Re:Faint sense of disgust by 00_NOP · · Score: 1

      The problem that you have is that I don't think charity is going to provide anything other than temporary relief. I believe in political change and that is what I work for. Part of political change is about getting people to question the values and ethics of the society they live in.

      So suck on that dweeb.

    16. Re:Faint sense of disgust by thales · · Score: 2

      Oh the all wise and all seeing 00_NOP has decided that "political change" is needed because some people dare to spend money they have earned on something that he disaproves of!!

      If some fool wants to spend a pile of HIS money on a stupid TV prop he has the RIGHT to waste HIS money without asking some would be slave master like 00_NOP

      Can the bullshit about starving kids, they are just an excuse to cover your real agenda, control over other people's lives. Seeing a would be slaver hiding behind "morality" is almost as big a joke as your political ideas. Anyone who is willing to sell himself into slavery as long as he can have a few lesser slaves under him isn't worthy of the title "human"

      So go stick your slaver fantasies up your ass, you pathetic excuse for a human being.

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    17. Re:Faint sense of disgust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can the bullshit about starving kids, they are just an excuse to cover your real agenda, control over other people's lives.

      What sort of a looney tune are you?

      We have plenty of mechanisms to control other people's lives - the law, the cops, the state pen being just a few.

      You pay any bills lately? Surely you didn't sell yourself into the slavery of the electric company?

    18. Re:Faint sense of disgust by thales · · Score: 2

      What sort of a looney tune are you?
      One who isn't an Anonymous Coward.

      We have plenty of mechanisms to control other people's lives - the law, the cops, the state pen being just a few.
      The Control freaks aren't sastified (nor will they ever be sastified) with the current laws, the want "political reform", the buzz word for extending control, and they need an excuse to do it, hince all the BS about starving kids and the enviroment. They don't give a damn about the kids or the furbish lousewort, the only thing that motivates them is controlling other people.

      You pay any bills lately? Surely you didn't sell yourself into the slavery of the electric company?
      You are full of it. Unlike the state, I can elect NOT to do buissines with my Electric CO-OP if I wish. Having someone else deal with the hassle of generating power is a convinence I don't mind paying for. I get a benifit out of it, which is more than I can say for statist plans to forcibly sieze my money or to control my life.

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    19. Re:Faint sense of disgust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      spending 80k on a chair: gets respent somewhere, expanding the conomy

      spending money on feeding poor: money gets eaten


      You know, you are so right. Jonathan Swift would be proud of you. Why don't you go the full circle and propose paying somebody to ensure the kids all die in a hurry and stop wasting everybody else's hard earned. Just think of the benefits - economy growth plus dead starvlings.

  19. Re:WHAT EVER YOU DO DON'T CLICK HERE by robtm · · Score: 0

    Worse than goatse? I think not.
    Maybe if you don't know the difference between fact and fiction.

  20. dammit give me that chair... by glowfish · · Score: 0, Troll

    so i can photon torpedo off topic hit whores...

  21. The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by eclectro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The chair really belongs in a museum. It would really be a shame if some private collector snatched it up somewhere and put it in his rec room to never see the light of day again.

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    1. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by Myria · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is exactly the type of thing the Smithsonian needs and wants for their media section. There was a lot of interesting TV stuff when I went there, and I'm sure this would be a hell of a nice addition. Question is, does the Smithsonian have $100000 for a chair? Aren't they funded by tax dollars? myria ^_^

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    2. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by CFBMoo1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes I agree. Infact I think Paramount shouldn't have thrown or given away the whole set, but donated it to the Smithsonian. Star Trek is one thing that inspires many people to do things for equal rights, space exploration, and a whole host of other things. I think it's a crime that most of whats left is a single chair if they pitched the whole set or gave it away.

      I'd like to be able to go to a museum and show any kids I have in the future that chair. They'll look at me like I'm crazy because of the latest Star Trek that looks super real, but it's nice to say, "This is where it all began."

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    3. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by gilroy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Blockquoth the poster:

      Infact I think Paramount shouldn't have thrown or given away the whole set, but donated it to the Smithsonian.

      Look, I love ST:TOS too and I grew up wanting to be Kirk or Spock, but let's face facts: When Star Trek went off the air in 1969, it was just this moderately-successful TV show, sailing into the sunset after a respectable but not record-breaking three seasons. It wasn't thought to be a phenomenon, a classic, or a national treasure. Trek occupies a place, now, in the culture not due to the show itself but due to the die-hard, never-give-up, even obsessive nature of its fan base durng the 1970s and (less so) 1980s, who kept the show alive through ways essentially unheard-of before (comics, conventions, fanfic).


      No one -- no one -- in 1969 knew this stuff would be important. It's unreasonable to expect them to have saved it.

    4. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by arglesnaf · · Score: 1
      When I was in DC, in 92 or so, the Smithsonian ran a Star Trek Exhibit.


      I distinctly recall the chair being in it.


      I just googled for it, and the exhibit is the number 2 question in the faq

    5. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Star Trek is one thing that inspires many people to do things for equal rights, space exploration, and a whole host of other things

      Ya, the Star Trek people are busy solving the world's problems when they could be watching more TV.

    6. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by Kiwi · · Score: 2
      The chair really belongs in a museum. It would really be a shame if some private collector snatched it up somewhere and put it in his rec room to never see the light of day again.

      Back in 1992, the Smithsoniam, in fact, had a Star Trek exhibit. Among other things, they had the origial navigation panel (the one Sulu would sit at). It was in pretty bad condition; looking at it live, it looked a lot more cheaply built than it ever did seeing it on the show.

      I don't remember seeing the captain's chair at the exhibit.

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    7. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      SmithsoniaN

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    8. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by eean · · Score: 1
      Have you ever been to the Smithsonian? They've got plenty of crap already. Suppose it would be kinda cool to see, but it would be only one of many kinda cool things. I am sure there is some county museum somewhere where it could be the cool thing.

      And why are you spam guarding your sneakemail address? I used it before I bought a domain, and the whole point is that you don't have to fiddle with spam guarding.

    9. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by Chad+Page · · Score: 1

      I remember once seeing part of the bridge set recreation done for "Relics" at Great America (Paramont owns that too :P ) but my memory might be hazy on that bit. Anyway, there was definiely a captain's chair replica from that too.

    10. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by Safety+Cap · · Score: 2

      The geeky story goes that they couldn't find the original plans (if they ever existed), but some gleep supplied a replica chair (search for "relics") that he made.

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    11. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsoniam by CFBMoo1 · · Score: 1

      Nicole Nicoles aka Lt. Uhura was on a Star Trek biography. She contemplated quiting the show from what I remember. Then she met up with I think Dr. Martin King, well in a nut shell after she told him she was gonna leave he told her that she was an african american woman cast in a position of authority over others and she should stay. For back in the 60's that was seriously something for equal rights in relation to race and sex.

      I think it was Dr. King, if I'm wrong someone correct me please. I knew it was an important figure in the equal rights movement she talked to.

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  22. for $80,000 it should come with Shatner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck Shatner, for $80000 it should come with yeoman what's her name.

    strait up pimp chair.

  23. Engine Room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scotty: "Cap'n, I'm giv'en it all she's got!"

    Kirk: "Must! ...make ...first ...Post!"

  24. **Sniff** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would have gone to bed hungry too...if not for that Pop-Tart.

    I like Pop-Tarts.

  25. Also for sale: by Rogerborg · · Score: 2

    Bob Justman's original handwritten notes creating the "Wesley Crusher" character for TNG.

    Anyone want to organise a fund so that we can buy them for Wil?. ;-)

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    1. Re:Also for sale: by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      No, I'd like to buy the notes so I can fold them, spindle them, mutilate them, shred them, crucify them, expose them to radiation, write swastikas and inverted pentagraphs all over them, and feed them to a doberman so I can collect the resulting shit, coat it with superglue, and throw it in Bob Justman's face for coming up with the idea of WESLEY.

      Then, I'll find out who created Guinan.

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    2. Re:Also for sale: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I sense...hostility.

      - Troi

    3. Re:Also for sale: by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
      • Then, I'll find out who created Guinan.

      Well, if we're looking for the original inspiration, it was probably Harriet Beecher Stowe, but she's been dead for a while now.

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    4. Re:Also for sale: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As I recall, the character was created as Leslie, not Wesley (and Tasha was Macha Yarr). These notes must have been from after casting, not original.

    5. Re:Also for sale: by SN74S181 · · Score: 1

      A floppy diskette with all the homoerotic 'fantasy stories' written regarding Wesley Crusher and posted on Usenet would be more fun to buy for Wil.

      I remember one where Wesley and some other crew member are emergency-teleported out of a 'marooned' shuttle craft buck naked and in a compromising position. What fun they used to have with that sort of fan fiction.....

  26. Bloody old Star Trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always found Star Trek and other associated sci fi stuff funny. Its funny because they always seem to end up with plots based around normal human dramas and tragedies (such as any soap tv).

    The only thing is that they are dressed up as aliens nad fly through space (always the right way up).

    And these aliens races are so sterotypicial.

  27. The sound of Sci-fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Off-topic but for general sci-fi IMO a better organ would be a Yamaha cs-80, a 200+ pound analog synth used as the main axe in Blade Runner and Doctor Who. Another personal favorite would be a Synthi 100 (scroll down) used in the HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Doctor Who. For simple devices, just get a theremin. Of all of them my next purchase will be an EMS Synthi A - weird sounds emanating from a briefcase, what could be better?

  28. or perhaps a cruise around the world..... by tufflove · · Score: 0

    80,000 for goddamn chair?? Anyone who would spend that kind of money on a piece of s*&t needs to seriously reconsider their priorities. Now, i might pay 80,000 for the stuffed cockatoo from Beretta........

  29. Didn't I see Kirk... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    put on a seat belt at one time or another? During a Klingon attack or something? Or am I imagining it?

  30. no, its not by cyberbob2010 · · Score: 0

    no, star trek isn't geeky anymore. Words in the theme song, sarcastic vulcans and crappy story lines. There will never be another ST:TNG and we're all worse off for it. Voyager sucked, DS9 wasn't NEthing but a Baylon Five based in the Star Trek universe and Enterprise isn't NE better. It's time for a new show in a new world with new characters and story lines.

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    1. Re:no, its not by bluethundr · · Score: 1

      "It's time for a new show in a new world with new characters and story lines." There is. It's called Farscape. . -T

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  31. Don't do anything rash by Chazmati · · Score: 5, Funny

    Before anyone sells their house for this low-budget TV show prop, give that Hoagy guy a call... if he can build his own cityscape he can probably set you up with a real nice Kirkholder for much less!

    Props to Hoagy. He should be working for Hollywood.

    1. Re:Don't do anything rash by Seraph · · Score: 1

      "Props." Good pun!

  32. $80K -- or a DIY cheapie? by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2
    It would be pretty easy to knock up your own version of the chair with some plywood, vinyl seat cloth, a pot of grey paint and some repro car dashboard switches from the 1960s.

    Of course you would know it was fake and you could even tell your friends it was fake but they would all think it was really genuine (unless you let them see you build it) and you were really telling lies to avoid the house being targetted by burglars.

    Main reason not to do so of course is the seat looks uncomfy as heck.

    I have a bunch of 'Jackson Pollocks' , a 'Rothko' and a Mondrian on my walls. If they were genuine they would be worth several million, all they cost me were a few hundred dollars for the canvas, paint and a couple of art books.

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    1. Re:$80K -- or a DIY cheapie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kirk always seemed to be shifting around trying to find a comfortable way to sit in the chair. I bet the authentic is just a few sheets of plywood tacked together with thin padding. Probably murder on the lower back.

  33. Geeks aren't geeks anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There seems to be a change going on in the younger generations, where being good with sciences and computers is no longer geeky, at least where I live (Sudbury, Canada). When I was in high school (4 years ago), if you liked working with computers you occupied a spot on the social ladder a couple steps off the bottom.
    My sister just graduated from high school, and in her grade are a group of guys who are called the "Cisco boys", who are just a step bellow skilled athletes on the social ladder. I mean crap, if I had been born 4 years later, maybe I would have gotten some before I passed my prime.

    1. Re:Geeks aren't geeks anymore by jcoy42 · · Score: 1
      My sister just graduated from high school, and in her grade are a group of guys who are called the "Cisco boys", who are just a step bellow skilled athletes on the social ladder. I mean crap, if I had been born 4 years later, maybe I would have gotten some before I passed my prime.

      I doubt it. My bet is your sister just has better thingies.
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    2. Re:Geeks aren't geeks anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd have to agree completely with the geeks aren't geeks anymore. As a senior in high school, I've got to say that most of the skilled athletes are geeks. I'm captain of the school's high school bowl (jeopardy-like quiz show) and I don't get any crap for it, there's nobody giving me swirlies in the bathroom. The captain of the baseball team always congratulates me after a high school bowl win, and even asked how he can get on the team. Our top two distance/cross country runners are video game fiends, one claims his summer will peak the day that Warcraft III is released. The top sprinter and snowboarder spend most of the time in our advance placement classes setting up starcraft games. Our #1, 2, and 3 tennis players are headed to Yale, Harvard, and Caltech. Of the other 4 high school bowl members, one is a varsity wrestler, another a starter on volleyball, and another is incredibly fit, athletic guy who can do 30+ pullups (world class feat there). The same guys that go to the keggers are the same guys spending nights playing starcraft, diablo 2 and excelling in school.

    3. Re:Geeks aren't geeks anymore by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      Dude what? Your top baseball, tennis, and snowboarding athletes get along with the geeks? Those are GEEK sports!

      Go ask the football and basketball teams if they want to play some Civ III.

  34. Hrmm... by Sc00ter · · Score: 2
    I remember going to a Star Trek convention and one of the things was the actual captians chair was suppose to be there. But they ended up not showing it because somebody stole part of it. (I heard the arm of the chair). Makes me wonder how legit it is.

    1. Re:Hrmm... by GigsVT · · Score: 2

      The auction listing refers to one repaired section, involving the armrest. This seems to correspond to your experience. This is the real deal.

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  35. then you should do something about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a white man, you should go to Zimbabwe and teach the natives our methods of farming. I'm sure you would be welcomed.

    Starving nations should copy the US. When Jesse Jackson last held a rally for the starving children in the US on the Capitol steps, not one of those kids had a belt size under 45 inches.

    1. Re:then you should do something about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if the 80,000 went to some charity, 90 percent of that amount would be absorbed by the administration of that charity, and their psych campaigns deisgned to instill guilt in people.

      A little sidenote: The Red Cross is using money gathered from their 9-11 campaign to fund the anti-gun lobby.

    2. Re:then you should do something about it by ealar+dlanvuli · · Score: 1

      well duh, we just randomly gave them more money than they have ever even imagined before, for a crisis that definatly didn't require that much money.

      I'd expect them to manage it with thought, and using it in other red-cross programs is the apropriate action once an apropriate amount is spent on WTC.

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    3. Re:then you should do something about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Red Cross loudly publicizes aupport of one issue, and then quietly funds other unexpected issues. If that's not deceptive, I have to wonder if we're using the same lexicon.

    4. Re:then you should do something about it by ealar+dlanvuli · · Score: 1

      I can see your point but I have to disagree. It's more like a mutual fund, you dump your money into the pool and expect it to be used apropriatly. If you find out they aern't doing what you like, you use a diffrent pool.

      OTOH if you sent them a check saying "for WTC fund" and they used that for gun control, I would find that mildly disturbing.

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  36. Write to the Smithsoniam then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok. How is it going to get there? Have the dude donate it to them? Yeah, let's ask the guy to just to donate it to the Smithsoniam. I'm sure they are more then willing to listen, since they only want $150k for it.

    Well, that's not going to work. Hmmmm, how about this, get a group of your buds, and write to the Smithsoniam to grab it up. They'll tell you that if YOU want it there YOU will have to come up with $150k for the freaking chair. Don't like this reality? Well it's a hell of a lot better then government coming to YOUR house and taking your stuff to put in THEIR museum.

  37. Shatner Comments on Chair Auction by ErikBaard · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mark Baard had an exclusive break on this story with WIRED back on May 22:
    http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,52700,00 . tml

    He subsequently posted comments from William Shatner to his personal website:

    http://www.baard.com/

    So yes, you somehow missed it.

    1. Re:Shatner Comments on Chair Auction by bluethundr · · Score: 1

      "Mark Baard had an exclusive break on this story with WIRED back on May 22:" ...props to him. Personally, I'm bored with Wired (for the most part). Which is probably why I missed it there. But my question is, has anyone posted this story on Slashdot? I ask because I am actually quite curious how this may have escaped mention on /. Good link, tho!

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    2. Re:Shatner Comments on Chair Auction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Mark Baard had an exclusive break on this story with WIRED back on May 22:"

      Am I the only one who finds this comment disturbing?? LOL

      Trek fans take themselves way too seriously!!

    3. Re:Shatner Comments on Chair Auction by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* Trek fans take themselves way too seriously!! *)

      Is this another way to say, "Get a life!" ?

      I remember once at a Trek convention one really geekball fan asked, no begged Shatner to tell him to "get a life" (mirroring the SNL skit). I think the audience beat Shatner to it.

  38. The Real McCoy? by limekiller4 · · Score: 1

    I hate to be one of those "remember when Slashdot [fill in blank]" people, but remember when Slashdot would have run a story on a guy that made his own and posted the pics on how to do it?

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    1. Re:The Real McCoy? by Sivar · · Score: 2

      Yes, in fact not even a week ago was there a story about a guy that built his own New York cityscape.

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  39. Star Trek not for Geeks? Posh! by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    The reviewer need not worry as Trek retains a vast amount of geekiness to it. Exploring strange new worlds and feeling up alien green women isn't for the faint of heart.

    Actually, as a fair weather fan of the series, it's getting so i can't stand it. It's too clean and everything fits into a nice, one hour box. No sharp edges and the characters remain rather static in their personalities compared to other series of the type.

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  40. Old story by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    This was on the Cnet Radio Show "Kovsky & Crisis" about two or three weeks ago. They even had an extended interview with the guy responsible for putting together the action. If memory serves me correctly, someone associated with the show was also a major collector, and had all of this stuff. he died, hence the sell off.

    Note - You can now listen to Cnet Radio on the air on 890 AM Radio in Boston. which is kinda cool, having a geek radio station to listen to in Boston. It is actually located in Dedham, and is a little under powered (You really can't hear it in providence, for example.)

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  41. I would love to destroy this thing... by gosand · · Score: 1, Troll
    $80k. Eighty Thousand Dollars. For a chair, used in a bad TV series? I'll bet the guy working for $6 an hour who built this thing is crapping his pants about now. Honestly, the complete idiocy of collectors amazes me. Dammit, it is hard enough to be interested in computers, science, and other things considered to be geeky without all the damn Trekkies making us look bad. Everyone assumes that if you are into computers, you are into all things trek. It was a bad, dumb show. And don't go off spouting your drivel about how it was amazing for it's time, blah blah, I DON'T CARE.

    Yes, it is amazing that this prop would sell for $80k or more, but go in the Smithsonian, as someone suggested? OMFG please! Just let it go. Take a step back, and look at your damn self. Stop. Just stop.

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    1. Re:I would love to destroy this thing... by Shelled · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ever watch those appraisal shows on PBS or BBC? Tens of thousands of dollars for 19th century gradeschool needlepoint, thousands for 1930's tin toys, the list is much longer and far more frivolous. Value is created by a complex matrix of criteria and rarely reflects an object's utility. Is a quartet of stamps with an inverted bi-plane really worth that much? In this regard Trekkers are no worse than any other collectors.

    2. Re:I would love to destroy this thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go Fuck yourself.
      How is your "Precious Moments" collecting going? or your comic book collection?

    3. Re:I would love to destroy this thing... by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Everyone assumes that if you are into computers, you are into all things trek. It was a bad, dumb show."

      I'm curious what you consider to be a good show, then. I seriously think you're judging ST for the wrong reasons.

      The reason that Trek is popular among geeks is that the depicted world of the future is more pleasing to live in if you're a geek.

      For example: You can tell the computer "go find me some porn I like!" and boom, you'll get porn you like. Today, we haveta scour the web manually for that. That sucks.

      Another example: I want a burger and fries right now. But *gasp* I have to walk for 15 minutes to do that! That sucks! In Star Trek, you'd walk up to your replicator, say "Burger and fries, Burgerville style." And boom, you have a burger and fries, Burgerville style.

      Here's yet another example: I have to walk 3/4ths of a mile to work every day. This sucks! Well, in Star Trek, I could just say "Beam me up!".

      One more example: Isn't it a pain in the butt to get a phone number of some chick? Face it: Most chicks don't wanna talk about computers, and none of them are impressed if you're running Linux. (Actually, you lose points for that, as a woman I dated pointed out.) Well, fear no more! In the Star Trek universe, you could just say "Wiggam to Portman, c'mon girl, my tricorder says that your hair is not in need of washing!" You couldn't do that today!

      As you can see, the world of Star Trek is quite appealing and serves as an acceptable template for the future. Geeks have a lot to be happy about when the world churns out one more Trek-like device.

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    4. Re:I would love to destroy this thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude you suck, If only you knew how much science/technology was inspired by Star Trek
      you would think twice about your knowledge of *computers and science*, assuming you have any in the first place of course! What a mo!

    5. Re:I would love to destroy this thing... by mitheral · · Score: 1

      On top of that they have the HoloDeck. What more could you possibly need?

  42. Misc Star Trek Trivia.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I actually went to the special effects shop that did all the Star Trek costume and makeup effects for ST: First Contact, ST:TNG, and most of the voyager episodes. I think the best thing I saw there was this plastic bag containing what they said was Patrick Stewart's Original Borg suit from TNG!

    They also constructed all the borg statues for the star trek experience in Las Vegas--and get this-- those borg statues were made from a body cast from an actor named D.B. Sweeney..

    And for those of you who watch HBO, they also happen to do the special effects for Six Feet Under.

    Anyway, that's my 2 cents of info for the day.

  43. x-files prop collecting heads up by mdouglas · · Score: 1

    as long as we're on the topic of collecting props, fox is auctioning off a lot of their old x-files props.

    http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/fox_auction/

    1. Re:x-files prop collecting heads up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =1541223399

      $355 for a mag-lite???

      um, I think I'll get mine at K-Mart!!

  44. I e-mailed this message to bluethndr by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    bluethundr,

    I wanted to post this on /. : I want to see pics of your collection. The items may be haphazardly strewn but DAMN I want to see what whiz-bang trek gadgets (expecially SCREENS or CONSOLES) you have so far. Amateur fotos will also be appreciated :-)
    IOW, show me the Federation Outpost that you have! That should be worthy of a /. mention itself, just like the guy that put a cityscape outside his window! Yours is a server room for chrissakes!

    Hailing bluethundr at all frequencies, Captain

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  45. More like $1.50 by h00pla · · Score: 1
    I'll bet the guy working for $6 an hour who built this thing is crapping his pants


    6 bucks an hour in 1964 would be one a hell of a wage for a studio carpenter. And I bet he is probably crapping in his drawers!

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  46. Maybe it *is* there too! by farrellj · · Score: 2

    It is not inconcievable that there were more than one "Captain's Chair". Considering the number of practical jokes that were played on various cast members, like Shatner...it seems that he had an ongoing weight-gain problem as the average season went on...and they would purposely take camera angles to emphesize this...it wouldn't suprise me that they once made a captain's chair that was slightly smaller as a practical joke.

    Gods, I know too much about Star Trek, the Original!

    ttyl
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    1. Re:Maybe it *is* there too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is not inconcievable that there were more than one "Captain's Chair" .. Gods, I know too much about Star Trek, the Original!

      If you read the certifications of authenticity in the article (RTFA), the people involved in the design, construction, and use of the show certify that the eBay item is the "one and only".

  47. You mean by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 3, Funny

    I [pause] did not sleep [pause] with [pause] that ensign

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  48. An important possibility by brinticus · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Wouldn't it be possible for me to get some DNA off that chair and clone the various Trek characters and make them entertainment slaves? Granted they wouldn't have the "exact" same personalities, but given enough of them watching episodes, brainwashed day after day as children literally seeing themselves become physically indistinuishable from their Paramount counter-parts -- I mean, hey, their resitance would be futile.

    Brinticus

    P.S. Anybody got an extra 79.999K sitting around to help me jointly bid?

  49. did he get too scared? by onShore_Jake · · Score: 1

    Please note the stain on the carpet by where the Cap.s right foot would be. Think maybe he got too scared in a Klingon battle?

  50. Hmm... gunna have to ask for some off by gbell · · Score: 1

    "Mounted into the base of the chair is a power cord wired to the sockets and, when powered, would illuminate the colored epoxy resin buttons and switches (one of the epoxy resin "lights" is missing). "

    Hmmm... uh... one of the lights is missing here... and Naugahide... not real crazy about that material... I'm going to have to ask for $3000 off your asking price, what with all the repairs I'm going to have to make....

  51. Captins Chairs Sweepstakes. by NetNinja · · Score: 0

    I remember about two years ago(Because I entered) . They were giveing away the captins chair from the Defiant(One I would love to have ;)) The Captins Chair from Voyager and the Cpatins Chair from the Enterprise D. Anybody know who got any of these?

  52. I bid 100,000 quatloos for the chair by infonography · · Score: 1
    I can't seem to find the newcomers so...

    And yes quatloos is how you spell it in The Gamesters of Triskelion

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  53. Too bad.... by ZoneGray · · Score: 3, Funny

    Too bad all the dot-coms are gone. One of them would have paid a bundle for it as part of their "branding strategy", and then some lucky employee would have gotten to take it home when they folded.

  54. Trekkers? No. It's trekieeeezzze..... by dmaxwell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've got some karma to burn so here goes. I am required to use Politically Correct terminology for various disabled, diseased, and ethnic conditions. Now I suppose an extreme Trekkie could be said to have a disability of perspective but that is taking a ridiculous thing (PC) too far.

    There is no such thing as a `Trekker'. It is a pathetic attempt to regain the last shard of self respect they lost when Shatner told them to move out of their parents' basement and get lives. There's the trekkie who girlfriend is going to dump him if he doesn't give up being the head of his college Vulcan council, he gave up the pussy for the pointed ears. Another trekkie showed up for OJ trial jury duty in her Starfleet uniform.

    In case the point isn't clear, Trekker is a pathetic attempt of people who take a tv show waaaay too seriously to wrap the mantle of Political Correctness around themselves. So Trekkies, move out of your parents' basement! Get a girlfriend! Get a job! Show up for jury duty in sensible clothes! Get a life!

  55. People seem to like stealing these things ... by dougmc · · Score: 2
    Apparantly, somebody stole the captain's chair from the Enterprise E bridge set of the upcoming Star Trek: Nemesis film during production.

    Wonder how long before THAT one shows up on Ebay ...

  56. I thought about buying it. by Telecommando · · Score: 2, Funny

    But only for a second.

    See, there's no cup holders.

    Wouldn't fit with my lifestyle.

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  57. I'm willing to bet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    bluethundr, do you have a girlfriend?

    1. Re:I'm willing to bet by klykken · · Score: 1

      Who needs a gf when you can have a full-sized Troi cardboard and plenty of lubricant for just under two thousand dollars?

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  58. NE means "any"? by chromatic · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I were you, I'd abbrev. the long words.

  59. Re:The chair belongs in the Smithsonian by inc0gnito · · Score: 1

    Actually, it was in the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum for a while in a Star Trek Exhibit. I'm even pretty sure it was the authentic one from the set (I've got a couple pictures of me sitting in it around here somewhere). I think this would have been about eight years ago.

  60. Star Trek bridge simulator by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Get the people building their own aircraft cockpits (on slashdot recently) together with the people with the Star Trek bridge parts, and make a working simulator.

  61. Speaking of cool Star Trek Stuff... by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Interesting
    eBay is also auctioning tons of really cool memos from Bob Justman.

    The one which caught my eye says:
    "Next problem. No Wes. We have Will Wheaton on a 13 out of 13 deal -- just like our other regulars. We pay him whether we photograph him or not. If we don't use him, all his teenybopper fans are going to be disappointed and we won't be taking advantage of one of our new show's greatest assets. I'm told we're not using him because our writers don't' know how to write for him. I find that hard to believe. They're writers, aren't they? I know damn well that *you* can write him -- so why don't you show them how? Put him in a scene. I know you can do it. Another problem solved." "Listen to what Rick Berman has to say about this script -- and everything else, for that matter. He's smart and has very good ideas. He's already a great asset to you and 'Star Trek'. I'm sure that, as time zooms by, he'll become even more valuable."
    1. Re:Speaking of cool Star Trek Stuff... by armb · · Score: 2

      > Put him in a scene. I know you can do it.

      I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that just about every writer then immediately did a "Wesley" script, but then was some dispute invoving the writers, so instead of spreading the Wesley scripts over a while they used them all close together because that was all that was available, and that overuse is where the alt.ensign.wesley.die.die.die type backlash started.

      Personally I found Wesley a somewhat irritating character, but didn't think that was the actor's fault. It's good to find out Wil is actually a pretty cool guy, (or has one amazing PR setup faking his website etc. :-) ).

      Changing universes, I briefly worked with someone who had an original Millennium Falcon model because he'd worked on special effects for the film. That was cool.

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    2. Re:Speaking of cool Star Trek Stuff... by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
      • Listen to what Rick Berman has to say about this script -- and everything else, for that matter

      Listen to Rick Berman. Rick is good, Rick is wise. Obey the Word of Rick. Obey. OBEY!

      Kind of how it went? ;-)

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  62. Merv Griffin.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone remember the Seinfeld episode where Kramer finds the old set to the Merv Griffin show in a dumpster? He sets it up in his apartment and plays the role of Merv. Great episode.

    With Merv, it is a one man show. But with Trek, I could see major fights breaking out over who gets to be Spock...

    Uhura not included..

  63. Star Trek Not Geeky by whizzird · · Score: 1

    Star Trek is not geeky it's Nerdy.
    The old one is cheesy. They *all* have bad acting (with a few exceptions like Patrick Stewart). They all have bad writing.
    In Star Trek if somebody has a bump on his nose, or slightly different ears, but otherwise looks human, he's an alien. What's that about?
    I saw one episode of DS9 (the first), where Cisco had to teach an entity that lived outside of our time stream. If the thing is simultaneously at all points on our timeline, how can it learn? It should know now, what it knew 100000000 years ago, and will know 1000000000 year from now, because to it all three points are the same.
    (Not a troll, I just *really* don't like Star Trek, or people assuming I do, cuz I like Star Wars, anime, etc.).

  64. More cool stuff, affordable by mere mortals by kindbud · · Score: 3, Informative
    Looks like most of Bob Justman's collection is being auctioned off - in person, or absentee via eBay - on June 27.

    The list of items on the block is here. It includes such things as:I think I might bid on this one: Gorn head mask - Star Trek - Arena - $1000.00

    Yeah!
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  65. That's not the real chair.... by Delphix · · Score: 1

    The right hand side should have lights on it as well, it only has push buttons. Haven't any of you watched the show?

    You can sort of see it in the still from the show. But there several close ups of the right control panel, and that is NOT the real chair.

    That might be the one they build for "Relics" (STTNG), but that is not the original chair.

    1. Re:That's not the real chair.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      From the eBay page:

      "In addition, this chair is 100% original from top to bottom with only one minor alteration to the arm panel."

      from "The Fugitive":

      "Care to revise your statement, sir?"
      "What?"
      "Do you want to change your bullshit story?"

  66. Buethundr's guide to Collecting Okudagrams by bluethundr · · Score: 1

    I hear you.No one's forcing YOU to collect them. So step off, yo. Lots of people like football. I am not one of those people. I don't, however, think they are *wrong* for liking it. And, while wer're at it...it *MUST* be an old trick. What they did on TNG to achieve this effect is pretty much a slight variant on what they used to do on the 60's trek. Duh! That being said, one can never be absolutely certain that what you buy is authentic. But there are several things to consider which I believe will help point you in the right direction. Again, its not fool-proof, but often I'll 1) Consider the seller. If you've been watching this category on eBay you get an idea of who can MAKE these things. Once you know who makes them, (and a few of them are out there) you get a sense of who is good at it and who is not. There is one guy (flagboy20@aol.com) whom I believe to make truly first rate stuff that would look good in any collection. However, I believe him to be disingenuous in his claims of authenticity. I have personally witnessed him selling the "Ops" and "Tactical" and "Transporter" stations from the Enterprise D. (for but a couple of examples) many times over. I believe he tries to create the impression that these were parts of the Hollywood set through what I believe to be intentionally nebulous and misleading language in his eBay ads. He sells parts of the Enterprise as if he were a one man Okuda Factory! Some of the other people on eBay who make these things are just lousy at it. And there is a range in-beween. You get a sense of who is who. The person whom I'll genuinely believe to be honest will have only one or at the most 3 to sell. They tend not to put a lot of effort into the ad. I will speak to them (if possible) and e-mail them to get a sense of whom I'm dealing with. And you get a feel for the process. Some of them have bought them at auctions (the non-internet, for charity kind at which mostly non-trek stuff was sold) and others that I've dealt with have webpages about themselves with pictures of themselves behind a camera and actually *on* the trek sets, as well as t.v. commercial and sit-com sets. This could be faked of course, but why bother? To sell one or two panels with an ad on eBay that they didn't even put any effort into making? 2) BWARE of ANYONE who is selling these panels in "PERFECT" condition. Perfect is actually BAD, because the only way these actually come into a private person's posession is through the "Striking" of a set. At that point, cast members and crew get first dibs on the panels they want. But, one thing you'll notice when you watch an ep of TNG is how damn plentiful they are! So obviously even after cast and crew claim their booty there is PLENTY left over. So they all get tossed in the trash. As I understand it, there are many folk on the Paramount lot who love Trek, but don't work on the show. These people then go "dumpster diving" to find the ones they like. These are the type that most frequently turn up on eBay. Also, just in the day to day use on the show, these panels get damaged. When they are removed through the strike process, especially no stage hand is ever going to give it the TLC a Trek geekoid would. So you actually WANT panels to be a little scratched and scuffed and little chunks missing out of them. 3) Look for the number 4027x on the panels. 4027 was Paramount's production number for the show. So, 40273 would indicate a 3rd season episode, 40274 would be a 4th, 40725 is 5th, yadda yadda, I'm sure you already got it with the first example. Even if you are just watching the show you will notice this numbering scheme over and over again. Most knock-off artists aren't perspicacious enough to know this and you will see some pretty weird number cominations that come CLOSE (like I'm pretty sure I saw something like 42071 on one of flagboy's panels. I let him know this was wrong and "coincidentally" all of his panels had the right number from then on...) but NO cigar. Also the number "47" turns up rather frequently. This has something to do with (I think) Pomona University in Califrnia which many of the Trek writers attended. Its some kind of school in-joke,apparently. 4) JOKES. This is a point that the counterfitters often screw up on. People who make the panels themselves rarely throw "in-jokes" into their work. The buttons on the panels are often the names of cast and crew. One panel I got (which I belive to be "real" and was from a person who was a camera person) has buttons that read PA STE (Patrick Stewart, no doubt) LE BUR (LeVar Burton) GE ROD (Gene Roddenberry), etc. You almost NEVER see this on a knockoff! One guy had a BIG graphic of the Enterprise D. In it the depiction had hidden amongst the decks Smiley Faces, Mickey Mouse heads and a VW Beatle.One of my panels has a sticker on it that reads "500,000 km per second. It's not just a good idea. It's the law!" Again, these are just general guidlines. And generally, you can never be TOTALLY sure. But I admit I get a little charge out of something that I strongly suspect is a piece of hollywood in my home. And even if they are not authentic, they still look nice. Even if it weren't sci-fi hollywood prop related I would pay what I've paid (between $150 up to $600 for some really quite large pieces) to have a piece of authentic art that I wouldn't be skilled enough or have enough time on my hands to produce. In my prowlings on eBay (I've been doing this for about 2 years now) I will go to the main page and type in "trek panel -shorts" (to weed out the "Trek Cycling Shorts" that inevitably turn up in these searches. Totally different thing!) Satisfied? I don't tell YOU how to suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, do I? ;P

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    1. Re:Buethundr's guide to Collecting Okudagrams by SerialHistorian · · Score: 1

      Ah, Bluethundr - All the information about in-jokes you just gave is also in the ST:TNG tech manual. I'm really curious to see if you've got pictures with closeups of these things -- I never quite belevied the manual!

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    2. Re:Buethundr's guide to Collecting Okudagrams by bluethundr · · Score: 1

      "All the information about in-jokes you just gave is also in the ST:TNG tech manual. I'm really curious to see if you've got pictures with closeups of these things -- I never quite belevied the manual!" Very interesting! I do have the TNG Manual, however, I've apparently not skimmed it enough to have gleaned this info from it. The stuff I reference in the above rant was the resulting knowledge of my collecting. I do have some snaps of the panels, but none close-up enough to see the things written on the buttons (some of the in-joke stuff is really quite small). But I think I may get off my lazy ass one day soon and photo-document my server room enough to build a page about it. Maybe I'll see if I can get myself slashdotted again! Drawing much ridicule I'm sure, but that's half the fun of getting slashdotted! Anyway, if you want to see the pics I have, drop me a line and I will send them to you. -T

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  67. No sir, this chair belongs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in the cellar on my attic

  68. Re:Trekkers? No. It's trekieeeezzze..... by ncc74656 · · Score: 2
    Another trekkie showed up for OJ trial jury duty in her Starfleet uniform.

    It was Whitewater, not OJ.

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  69. The chair is a fake or so utterly changed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The chair is a fake or so utterly changed to make it worthless? or at least worth less? Let's go over some things... the left side arm rest comes with slot(s) for the wooden "data cards" Kirk used and a reader (on a larger panel). The right side is also different (left and right when sitting). The original also was not a one piece molded chair, nor did it look like it. You could see the side seams, the bottom platform the sides were mounted to and more. Also, it wasnt carpetted. This does indeed look more like the one used in Relics or as a prop for something else. Besides folks, The National Air and Space Museum was the last people I knew of who had the chair, and according to the eBay ad, this guy is claiming he's had it since 1969 till now. How odd...

  70. Re:Trekkers? No. It's trekieeeezzze..... by bluethundr · · Score: 1

    "Another trekkie showed up for OJ trial jury duty in her Starfleet uniform." Actually it was the Whitewater trial, Jackass! "waaaay too seriously to wrap the mantle of Political Correctness around themselves." ...Then again. The origin of the term "Politically Correct" is Chairman Mao's Great Leap Forward. Face it "political correctness" is no sort of mantel that any intellectually competent person who respects the free interchange of ideas and information would ever have an ounce of respect for. How on Earth can you derride enthusiam for a myth system as brainwashing while at the same endorsing that purile form of mind control you malodorous offal!

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  71. new enterprise by in_ur_face · · Score: 0

    I wish I got the new enterprise episodes (UPN?) in my area :( Until then, its just good old reruns of voyager and TNG

  72. Contents of Memos? by FrankDrebin · · Score: 1

    ...a wonderful source of Star Trek history, but provide a unique, behind-the-scenes glimpse into the production details of each episode, and are absolutely fascinating reading!

    All those memos, like this one, start at $150US a pop. Given these are originals, can the purchaser not publish their contents electronically? I for one would find it interesting, but certainly don't have the budget.

    Any geeks out there with dot-com-bubble cash (Mark Cuban?) wanna snap these up an publish for the rest of us?

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  73. Ebay picture choice is weird. . . by stevarooski · · Score: 2

    Anyone else notice this? A couple pics of the chair, some detailed closeups, and then a pic of the chair on the bridge with everyone lying around dead?

    Interesting advertising. . .

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  74. From Drew Carey: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Look at it this way, Drew. You got to defile the Batmobile."

  75. I OWNED the ST captains chair for a year! Really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I OWNED the ST captains chair for a year! Really. It was an expensive 100% exact copy of the original with pedastal base, and all "working" fictures.

    It was created over many many months, with meticulous study of the original before constructing it.

    There was one problem... you have no idea how big this thing was.

    The prop is very large and being built to be exactly like the prop, not one enhancement, not one deviation, not one difference anyone would ever be able to see, it was not that fun to actually sit in or use.

    I wish I had video footage of every inch of it to prove the truth of all I am saying. I think I have a picture of one girl sitiing in it though. (It never excited that many girls, by the way).

    now the sad sad story behind the chair.....

    It was constructed by an obsessive guy and his dad, The guys name was Jeff Jones, from Romeo Michigan area. He changed his names when he went into acting and left for hollywood for a couple years. The thing was a massive "white elephant" of sorts. The thing dominated any place, any room, you placed it. He said I could actually not just watch over the museum grade piece, but use it, and eventually dispose of it as i wished.

    I basically forfeited my living space for it, and eerily, like Jeff (whom changed his name when he went to hollywood by the way), I bacame disenchanted with it.

    The reason I cared about it less is because I knew deep in my heart another person should have it. A person that would feel good every day owning it, forever, instead of just the first month or so.

    I thought I found a third owner and I gave it to him, the worlds most proficient Apple II cracker (The Nova) whom was better than Mr KrackMan or Apple Bandit in actual number of first cracks.

    I think this chair may actually be what is being auctioned possibly.

    You have no idea how detailed the replica was. i used to spend hours trying to spot a defect, and because i did not build it or participate in its creation I had a very critical fair eye. The thing was indeed The Actual Captain Kirk chair from the first episodes.

    I never thought the chair would be used fraudulently, I hope no one is tricked by it, and a reasonalble person would conclude it would be the actual chair. IE: Why would anyone make a detailed prop so obviosuly a movie prop with not one enhancement? A person would conclude its the real thing. All the paint and parts were even 60's materials. It was a truly strange project with no intention of fraud. It is also in perfect condition and sitting it never changed its cushion appearances after getting up. It swivelled well too.

    I miss the chair, but it tormented me. It is cursed to never bring the joy you think it might bring.

  76. No, that's not a coffee stain. by serutan · · Score: 2

    It was tea. Earl Grey. Hot.
    Available long before the 23rd century.

  77. Re:I OWNED the ST captains chair for a year! Reall by bluethundr · · Score: 1

    >You have no idea how detailed the replica was. >i used to spend hours trying to spot a defect, If you do, indeed suspect that the chair up for bid is on eBay is the one you used to own in Michigan. AND if you studied it as closely as you claim. AND if you did not notice a single thing diferent about the chair... HOW DID YOU MISS THE RIGHT ARM??? Silly rabbit! The original chair (which I believe the eBay chair to be) was on public display and had the right arm damaged. Before it was repaired the arm had lights and switches. That was how it appeared on TV. But when they fixed the arm, they didn't bother duplicating its appearance before the damage. NOw it simply has push buttons, no switched and no lights. So if the chair that your friend made was exact in every detail...then it should've had lights on the arm.

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  78. Re:I OWNED the ST captains chair for a year! Reall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I meant not different from the film footage.

    my chair does NOT look like this thing in many ways....

    You are correct. I am sorry not to have been clearer.

    My chair resembled first season exactly. This chair does not, plus it has wrong color base and has stains and other shoddyness.

    Maybe it is the real prop.

    But mine ALSO has light bulb socket in one side and had a long thin lamp browm power cord and tinfoil lining up inside that part from what I recall. I do not have memories of ever plugging it in though. It does have that ac cord.

    Some switch rockers rocked, others did not. it had a slot and three colored wooden recoding square thingies to drop into the slot but did not have a good feel to it in doing so. they just kind of inserted into it most of the way.

    Again, the chair had naugahyde and lots of things that would make a person think it was the exact studio prop.

    It was truly a perfect mock-up.

    The only reason a casual observer would have that it was not the real prop is that it was in 100% pristine condition with only a few paint nicks on an exposed edge.

    After seeing all the abuse this chair photo on ebay has I doubt it is the chair I had... no body would have abused it so much in a couple decades. I hope its safe somewhere.... And I hope its not a participant in this auction.

    Mine had ALL the features of the actual prop used in the first episodes, and was meant to be 100% identical and accurate.

  79. other trek stuff on eBay. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just before christmas, I did a search on ebay for star trek props, and lo and behold, an original model of the Enterprise from the original series was for sale! It was fully functioning. That is, the electronics still worked and all the little lights came on. The story was that there were three identical ones made. The smithsonian has one, and another was destroyed when a producers kid threw it in the pool (was mostly made of balsa wood so it immediately fell apart) and the third was for sale. The opening bid was $10,000 and all bids were kept private.

    -Cowering Anonym

  80. Re:LNUX DEATH WATCH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BRILLIANT, OLD BOY! One thing to consider. Slashdot does not censor your posts. Nor do I think they should. But you've seriously got a cog loose. To this I say...GET THEE TO A NUNNERY!!!