I think the fact that most EULAs are written in technical & lawyer language rather than something that the user can understand is the issue. Most people have a lawyer look at a house contract, use an accountant when doing taxes. I know myself that for me to rent a commercial property here in Australia I am required by law to take the lease to a solicitor to discuss it.
Who wants to spend a few hundred dollars on both lawer and technical consultant fees just to know whether to click "accept" when they first boot up their computer. That's just stupid, really stupid. The funny thing is that in an M$ EULA, most of the DRM & the likes is just eluded to. There's no straight up "If you attempt to watch a video over an insecure interface you will get shit quality" in it, it's more like "measures have been put into place to stop copywright infringement... blah... blah... blah."
Anyone who says that home users are just "consumers" and not customers of M$ is talk bullshit. If M$ is so not worried about what consumers want then why make a resource hungry eye-candy OS? Oh wait, HP, Dell, Toshiba, Fujitsu, etc, all requested M$ do that... I forgot, PC makers have ultimate control over M$, and not the other way around.
To be honest, users for years have been crying out for a sexy OSX rip-off... they have it now, and all they do is complain that it runs shit, etc. Meanwhile they could have told M$ where to go by buying an Apple, rather than demanding a poorly done clone. (and no, I don't own an Apple, I'm a Linux person myself. I just don't see Linux distros as mature enough to take on Bill and Steve... too many flying chairs and all).
I've moved along the linux trail for some time now, starting out on Red Hat years ago, moving to the noob friendly Mandrake (at the time, then Mandriva), Slackware for a while, Debian more recently, and now SuSE.
For me, SuSE has been the kindest for workstation, notebook & server deployment.
I know SuSE is very similar to RH/Fedora and a few other distros out there, it just seems to be more polished/finished than the others. On top of that, I don't have an issue with Novell - it seems a lot of people here do though.
While I do use MySQL as my main database system, I am no fanboy. I have never come across a situation where I have experienced any bugs at all. If I did, I'd submit them to MySQL. If it was merely the fact I'm using community and I need an enterprise solution... well... that's a simple one to figure out.
I agree that Zonk needs to be culled, like many of these "net journos". It's just as bad as submitting articles that are snopesed 2 days later.
Learn to keep your opinion out of it Zonk. You just end up looking like a tool.
Here in Australia, all the exchange work in our largest telco seems to be done from Sun boxes. I think that's merely showing the company's age, rather than what they prefer.
Still, would be nice to experience one of these fine boxes in action.
Worked a charm, I came back and realised that it's actually a shit boring game filled with angsty adults and annoying (pre)teenagers.
Not being a (pre)teenager I really didn't want to wind up as an angsty adult wasting away playing a game that is "all about the purples". While it is a fun game... for a while. Once you start end-gaming or serious PvP, it becomes a boring grind for gold and DKP.
The only way to beat the addiction, as with any addiction, is self realisation.
it's the goose that lays the golden egg syndrome... quick cash is better than become established and making more cash over time in the minds of most companies.
I can't really see bloatware as "feature packed"... If M$ spent more time working on making clean efficient code that wasn't almost designed to slow your machine down, maybe we'd have faith in their products.
I mean, come on, you shell out $5k for a computer, you expect it to be shithot. It would be (and the graphical difference marginal) in DX9 over DX10. If we could compare XP to Vista performance you'd probably see where the issues lay - a bloated OS that is resource hungry vs a bloated OS that's less resource hungry. I know which would turn up better results.
This is impossible to have happen as M$ seems to think we enjoy having to upgrade our OS to have games supported. About the only thing M$ has done well for gamers is the Xbox, and even the latest one is starting to show some massive cracks.
most adults I know have consoles and/or computers for gaming. if you look at the way games are marketed nowerdays, it's not toward teens and pre-teens. it's toward adults... why you may ask? we have money, kids don't... check the number of adult styled games vs teen or younger games on systems like 360 & PS3...
but to me, that makes great business sense - force developers to only develop for the top versions and you have the whole of the bottom end of the market in the palm of your hands.
while this more than likely isn't what M$ is doing, it's a neat way of looking at it. to me, this is just another way for M$ to keep vista in tech news. If they didn't pull this bullshit we wouldn't have heard a thing other than the usual murmurs of "vista sales slumping" that brings great delight to people like myself.
seriously though, this is another ploy by Johnny "Kiss Bush's Arse" Howard to get votes before an election. It's a joke, he's saying "broadband for all" but it's merely "broadband for major cities, sub standard broadband for rural areas". The opposition party has a much smarter plan of delivering fibre to 98% of the nation, rather than attempting to use ADSL2+ in a massively sparse population.
As an ex-Telstra worker, I can attest to the fact that copper just doesn't work in the bush. It degrades so quickly that they can barely replace it at the rate it's installed.
While fibre isn't the answer, it's a better alternative to copper... much better.
Maybe, instead of using your narrow view, look at the bigger picture.
this is retarded - you people (and by you people, I mean you Americans) aren't willing to pay a $5mill debt for a school, but you're more than happy to spend billions bombing the middle east into the stone age.
Just keep believing god is on your side so education won't matter.
I suppose the main thing is that this shouldn't be handled by the RIAA at all. They can give information to authorities, but to command taxpayer's forces is going too far.
The day corporations can give orders to protective/supportive services is the day your society starts to crumble - enjoy.
guess again mate... there's plenty of reports of atrocities being carried out by US troops in Iraq - the funny thing is, the orders seem to be coming from the top.
Come back and say what you said when you're parents are dead from US bombs, your brothers are in Abu Graib, and your sister was raped and shot by US soldiers.
That's a load of horse shit... or you have no idea where to buy projectors.
I can get a 1080p projector for AU$1700, approx US$1500. If you want a shit hot one, AU$2000, US$1680.
Anyway, still doesn't detract from the point that here in Australia we're paying $999 for a game system. I paid the same for my premium 360... with 2 games, 2 controllers, recharge & battery pack, an extra battery.
I personally have a mid range HD projector setup, it cost me about $1000 all up for my setup. So... yer... PS3 is much higher than I would pay for a system.
Unless Sony drop their pricing, they'll end up hammering the final nail in their nice coffin they built. I know lots of Sony fanboys that flat out refuse to buy a PS3 and are actually saving for a 360.
Yes indeed... HP have to be the worst of the big names in computing for driver support. If you have Mac OS/Linux, forget it.
While Canon is better (they do actually develop Linux drivers), it's still not an idea situation.
I must say, I've lost all faith in HardOCP after reading this article (what little faith I had). To "not reccomend" an OS due to some minor issues with trying to use unsupported hardware and a lack of ability to google is just retarded.
I think I'll go grab an alpha chip and try to throw it into an HP xw8000 - that'll work.
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hehe... gotta love windows junkies.
learn to use google... oh, wait, you've only got live search...
I think the fact that most EULAs are written in technical & lawyer language rather than something that the user can understand is the issue. Most people have a lawyer look at a house contract, use an accountant when doing taxes. I know myself that for me to rent a commercial property here in Australia I am required by law to take the lease to a solicitor to discuss it.
Who wants to spend a few hundred dollars on both lawer and technical consultant fees just to know whether to click "accept" when they first boot up their computer. That's just stupid, really stupid. The funny thing is that in an M$ EULA, most of the DRM & the likes is just eluded to. There's no straight up "If you attempt to watch a video over an insecure interface you will get shit quality" in it, it's more like "measures have been put into place to stop copywright infringement... blah... blah... blah."
Anyone who says that home users are just "consumers" and not customers of M$ is talk bullshit. If M$ is so not worried about what consumers want then why make a resource hungry eye-candy OS? Oh wait, HP, Dell, Toshiba, Fujitsu, etc, all requested M$ do that... I forgot, PC makers have ultimate control over M$, and not the other way around.
To be honest, users for years have been crying out for a sexy OSX rip-off... they have it now, and all they do is complain that it runs shit, etc. Meanwhile they could have told M$ where to go by buying an Apple, rather than demanding a poorly done clone. (and no, I don't own an Apple, I'm a Linux person myself. I just don't see Linux distros as mature enough to take on Bill and Steve... too many flying chairs and all).
I've moved along the linux trail for some time now, starting out on Red Hat years ago, moving to the noob friendly Mandrake (at the time, then Mandriva), Slackware for a while, Debian more recently, and now SuSE.
For me, SuSE has been the kindest for workstation, notebook & server deployment.
I know SuSE is very similar to RH/Fedora and a few other distros out there, it just seems to be more polished/finished than the others. On top of that, I don't have an issue with Novell - it seems a lot of people here do though.
This is just as bad.
While I do use MySQL as my main database system, I am no fanboy. I have never come across a situation where I have experienced any bugs at all. If I did, I'd submit them to MySQL. If it was merely the fact I'm using community and I need an enterprise solution... well... that's a simple one to figure out.
I agree that Zonk needs to be culled, like many of these "net journos". It's just as bad as submitting articles that are snopesed 2 days later.
Learn to keep your opinion out of it Zonk. You just end up looking like a tool.
I just enabled it on my little file server at home.
Specs:
AMD 3000+, 512MB ram, 1x 80GB IDE, 2x 500GB SATA (Raid)
MASSIVE difference in performance, even just doing an ls on a directory with a lot of files/directories in it.
Here in Australia, all the exchange work in our largest telco seems to be done from Sun boxes. I think that's merely showing the company's age, rather than what they prefer.
Still, would be nice to experience one of these fine boxes in action.
For me, I ended my addiction by going overseas.
Worked a charm, I came back and realised that it's actually a shit boring game filled with angsty adults and annoying (pre)teenagers.
Not being a (pre)teenager I really didn't want to wind up as an angsty adult wasting away playing a game that is "all about the purples". While it is a fun game... for a while. Once you start end-gaming or serious PvP, it becomes a boring grind for gold and DKP.
The only way to beat the addiction, as with any addiction, is self realisation.
it's the goose that lays the golden egg syndrome... quick cash is better than become established and making more cash over time in the minds of most companies.
shame on those nerds for making advancements in technology...
shame on those nerds for writing the software that processes your paycheque...
shame on those nerds for developing the computer you are using...
silly nerds, get back to looking like a dork and speaking in languages the plebs don't understand... just so they can throw rotting meat at you.
I can't really see bloatware as "feature packed"... If M$ spent more time working on making clean efficient code that wasn't almost designed to slow your machine down, maybe we'd have faith in their products.
I mean, come on, you shell out $5k for a computer, you expect it to be shithot. It would be (and the graphical difference marginal) in DX9 over DX10. If we could compare XP to Vista performance you'd probably see where the issues lay - a bloated OS that is resource hungry vs a bloated OS that's less resource hungry. I know which would turn up better results.
This is impossible to have happen as M$ seems to think we enjoy having to upgrade our OS to have games supported. About the only thing M$ has done well for gamers is the Xbox, and even the latest one is starting to show some massive cracks.
height has no relation to lenght nor to width... it's called 3 dimensions...
you just have time to cancel or allow?
You Am I is much better...
Wouldn't that be a game where you make wild pigs?
you really need to learn to read the word "user".
tech based people aren't reall "users" in the base term.
Being condescending to someone because they make a valid point only paints yourself as a monkey.
Their point is valid, you are not.
bahahaha... you have to be kidding...
can you hear us way back there in the 80's?
most adults I know have consoles and/or computers for gaming. if you look at the way games are marketed nowerdays, it's not toward teens and pre-teens. it's toward adults... why you may ask? we have money, kids don't... check the number of adult styled games vs teen or younger games on systems like 360 & PS3...
all aboard the logic train, next stop, reality...
before I say this, I am far from an M$ fan...
but to me, that makes great business sense - force developers to only develop for the top versions and you have the whole of the bottom end of the market in the palm of your hands.
while this more than likely isn't what M$ is doing, it's a neat way of looking at it. to me, this is just another way for M$ to keep vista in tech news. If they didn't pull this bullshit we wouldn't have heard a thing other than the usual murmurs of "vista sales slumping" that brings great delight to people like myself.
aren't fish vegetables?
hahaha, you're a monkey... yes you are...
seriously though, this is another ploy by Johnny "Kiss Bush's Arse" Howard to get votes before an election. It's a joke, he's saying "broadband for all" but it's merely "broadband for major cities, sub standard broadband for rural areas". The opposition party has a much smarter plan of delivering fibre to 98% of the nation, rather than attempting to use ADSL2+ in a massively sparse population.
As an ex-Telstra worker, I can attest to the fact that copper just doesn't work in the bush. It degrades so quickly that they can barely replace it at the rate it's installed.
While fibre isn't the answer, it's a better alternative to copper... much better.
Maybe, instead of using your narrow view, look at the bigger picture.
this is retarded - you people (and by you people, I mean you Americans) aren't willing to pay a $5mill debt for a school, but you're more than happy to spend billions bombing the middle east into the stone age.
Just keep believing god is on your side so education won't matter.
I suppose the main thing is that this shouldn't be handled by the RIAA at all. They can give information to authorities, but to command taxpayer's forces is going too far.
The day corporations can give orders to protective/supportive services is the day your society starts to crumble - enjoy.
uhhh... go back to planet tard monkey... send my regards to high councilor No Fucking Idea.
guess again mate... there's plenty of reports of atrocities being carried out by US troops in Iraq - the funny thing is, the orders seem to be coming from the top.
Come back and say what you said when you're parents are dead from US bombs, your brothers are in Abu Graib, and your sister was raped and shot by US soldiers.
That's a load of horse shit... or you have no idea where to buy projectors.
I can get a 1080p projector for AU$1700, approx US$1500. If you want a shit hot one, AU$2000, US$1680.
Anyway, still doesn't detract from the point that here in Australia we're paying $999 for a game system. I paid the same for my premium 360... with 2 games, 2 controllers, recharge & battery pack, an extra battery.
I personally have a mid range HD projector setup, it cost me about $1000 all up for my setup. So... yer... PS3 is much higher than I would pay for a system.
Unless Sony drop their pricing, they'll end up hammering the final nail in their nice coffin they built. I know lots of Sony fanboys that flat out refuse to buy a PS3 and are actually saving for a 360.
Yes indeed... HP have to be the worst of the big names in computing for driver support. If you have Mac OS/Linux, forget it.
While Canon is better (they do actually develop Linux drivers), it's still not an idea situation.
I must say, I've lost all faith in HardOCP after reading this article (what little faith I had). To "not reccomend" an OS due to some minor issues with trying to use unsupported hardware and a lack of ability to google is just retarded.
I think I'll go grab an alpha chip and try to throw it into an HP xw8000 - that'll work.