Do a study that tells me something I don't know, will ya? Geeze...I haven't been surprised by the news or these "studies" in almost a decade, except on 9/11.
That after a big setback, SCOX goes to $2.00 a share, and when it's been at $4.00 a share for a week or two, we heare more about the case again? This is the 2nd or 3rd cycle of this.
Someone's losing a LOT of money here. Usually investors ebb and flow in increments; this is more like a switch. Who in their right mind would keep funding this shell of a company?
Well, of course not; stems cells that don't involve killing people are the point of the article, no? I'm fine with this. Totally clam-like.
I just took a smidge of offense that an original poster seemed cavalier about taking lives of people who, by their very definition, are innocent. As things progress, I see more people who treat this like waste, than life. Religious or not, it just seems wrong to me. I welcome an alternative!
I just think that, as societies go, killing children is no way to fix any problem. Doesn't this seem wrong to you? Even a little?
And ya just KNOW that once it's allowed for any reason, there'll spring up baby farms to fill the need. Remember the big'ol welfare act that gave extra money to people that had more kids? We got a bunch of kids that no one wanted...and made under-educated criminals with no sense of purpose. Misery abounds.
But, at least _they_ got to live...
Is that "lacking in compassion", since I'm Conservative? I don't think so.
All the debate that's happened here, and this story was a media ploy all along. It appears that "The once grey lady" of the New York Times shows how transparent it's become at propoganda.
Yes, this whole thing was a farce; that article was to promote a book.
This is what I'm talking about. Very nearly 50% of Americans have been convinced, despite clear history to the contrary, that America is *the* preiminent source of evil in this world. If you think it is, you've been programmed, period.
Who's maintaining the Geneva Convention? America, Australia, Britain, maybe Canada? Everyone else, it seems uses wholesale torture and could care less. Well today McCain just bound our hands EVEN FURTHER by legislation intended to make him president. Worse yet, the fact there IS legislation suggests we use torture as a daily constitutional or something.
We lost 40,000 men pushing Hitler's troops out of France, for example; little boys, who's life was just starting...given a gun and told to climb the hedgerows. Now, France acts as if doing so for their freedom was an imposition. They didn't feel that way when the survivors liberated them.
These are end-times. You should already know that by now. Things are about to spiral out of control, helped partially by the press who'd sell out their own country for the sake of a political ideology. So now we're evil, now we need to be stopped, and Bush is a terrorist for giving freedom to oppressed people.
The Freedom of Speech is tainted (McCain/Fiendgold bill) and now Private Property is under attack. And the surprise is, most people didn't notice either of these being violated. Most Bush-bashing zombies never got the word; I guess the legacy media decided it wasn't important.
I've lived through three decades of the liberals calling Republicans fascist. But when they tell us what to think, how to talk, and over stretch the "Seperation of Church and State" rules, I hear Panzers.
Does anyone here remember the towers falling, crushing something like 3,000 people, who's only crime was showing up at work? Remember the panic? Remember the lack of airlines for weeks?
Did we have any guarantee that the attacks were really "over"?
No, like always, it's Bush's fault. That's so easy. Just listen to CNN and the legacy media. You never would have used your own mind, anyway.
This world will be under governmental/computerized control in about 20 years.
Someone of imporantace will come to power-a nice guy, a hard worker. He'll solve some logstanding problems. He'll suffer some kind of head injury which will kill him, but he'll be revived. And when he starts doing things from there on out, it'll seem a miracle. Then he'll bring peace in the middle east.
You'll love him.
But he'll completely control access to all purchases. This will seem convenient at first, but he will soon control the mindspace, too. And once you've supported him, changing him will be impossible. And he'll become in real terms, all the things the left thinks George Bush is now, but worse. Then comes the war. It's going to be miserable on a planetwide scale.
Don't you guys READ? The story's only 2650 years old, sheesh.
Gaim, though it's not as full-featured as the original clients (short on special features) is a workhorse for all the REAL uses of these things. And, it both works in Windows, Linux, and maybe the Mac...
I think it's gaim.sourceforge.net; if not, it's on Google.
There are a lot of myths being presented by the media during this culture war. While millions mindlessly watch TV and believe what it says, it's still not true.
For example:
"Everyone" knows that no WMDs were found in Iraq, yet the New York Times has an article written May 22, 2004 claiming how local Iraqis are in danger because George Bush wants to remove the 500T of yellowcake (raw) uranium and the 1.77T of enriched uranium by driving it out through the city streets.
"Everyone" knows that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but we attacked them anyway. Even though they house Abu-Abas, Abu-Nidal, and two other very-highly-prized terrorists that a lot of nations want to kill. And there was a 727 found there for training terrorists. And there was a $20,000 "bounty" Saddam was paying to any family who had a homocide bomber blow themselves up.
"Everyone" knows that 2,000 deaths in a war with tanks is an absurd, out-of-control quagmire. Except the DoD has posted that the number of militarys deaths each year when we stay home is 1,200. Except that in Vietnam (a real quagmire) we used to see 600 coffins a *week*.
Yeah, I know it's all political, but the evidence is clear; it's where one can look it up, open to anyone, they just won't stop listening to CNN.
Go to Iraq with a translator, see the officials, then look around. Compare what the officials say to what the locals say. Then maybe we can put these issues to bed and get other things done for a change.
And yet...the numbers are climbing; a week ago a report informed us that our numbers now double, on the desktop, the MacIntosh.
I set up DOS/Windows shops from Huntsville, AL to Chicago, IL...the amazing mass-hysteria of this mega-monopoly is partly my fault; sorry. But now I work to correct it.
An important concept to remember is that while there are still things to be improved, one virus of 200,000+ and your day is toast, your work evaporated, AND YET YOU STILL STAY WITHOUT TRYING TO CHANGE IT.
We did. And every day it gets better, not more expensive.
This has to be the second or third time I've seen this headline.
For computers with real OS's, who needs to shorten the reboot time? Is this really a problem? The machine I'm on hasn't been powered off in about four years...
For two decades, every available dollar has been put into making US upgrade to newer and more expensive computers....so now he invests millions to lock some in time? That's kinda ironic.
Anyone check for flying cars? I love it when people make broad statements like this. Obviously they've never spent time in the real world.
Who *wants* to live 300 years, anyway? Life sucks enough already. I can live without the 200+ years of spam, insurance payments, and everything else. Did he say we'd have 19-YO bodies? He didn't, did he...
All of these animals were most likely hunted to extinction of what I assume should be called "native americans" (my PC speak is not up to scratch). If that is natural or not, you be the judge.
I think the term would be called "aboriginal Americans" since they'd have been here first, if we can trust the guesses of science. That PC crap is not only dangerous, but fascist; I merely want to get the terms right- don't feel offended.
The same thing happened on New Zealand around 1200 AD, and on Madagascar around 1400 AD. It quite possibly happened in Australia as well.
Well, we all know how much fun it was to bring Cane Toads to Australia, now, don't we.:)
My problem with this is, scientists asserting too much control over the environment. Like the GM corn thing (first message in the thread) and other historical glitches. Like coating the Hindenburg in SRB (rocket) fuel. Or thinking it'd be "cool" to make a pit-bull with a lion's head. (Chimera)
Like it or not, there are some things scientist just learn about, not actuate, ya know? At least until they completely understand it. The rest of us get no warning it's happening, as a unit can guess the outcome they've overlooked, and will be held accountable for their mistakes. (Like stomped, shocked, or "virused" out of existance.
Is this the same crew who was pushing for reanimation of that wooly mammoth a while back?
If these animals died out 13,000 years ago, doesn't the secular world view this as a mistake on the part of natural selection? Are we really going to second-guess that?
'Cause if we are, I'm gonna lobby for bigger guns and trample-insurance.
Ya know, there needs to be just one "idiot" packaged with all these overeducated intellectuals to put the brakes on now and then. Remember GM corn- how the scientists thought 200 yards was far enough away from natural corn to be safe....while forgetting that the typical native honeybee has a cruising range of over five miles?
Ya never see these people trying to reanimate the sabre-tooth tiger....wouldn't that be earnest, thoughtful re-instatement of missing species? Hey! Let's make a dragon!....
Am I the only one to have seen every release of Microsoft since CP/M? Must be.
OF COURSE the virus writers already have a jump on the product before the beta is done. You don't really think 8,000 viruses this year so far, just *happen* do you?
The cycle continues.
The release.
The press proclaiming that it isn't selling. A handful of corporations jump on it for the same stupid reasons one can only make when earning more than a million dollars each year. (corporate stupidity).
Then comes the inevidable "We're going to stop supporting old release X" when more jump on board.
Just as people are getting settled in, OH! It's time for a new Office and maybe Works! The old ones are grossly incapable of doing simple math and are seriously lacking 'cool', so the herd begins to turn and shed their cash.
There are still people running DOS, ya know. And Wfw. And Win9x. They're happy as long as they don't use the net. (So they're safe)
When will corporate America and the man on the street tire of being surprised at this rope-a-dope?
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Do a study that tells me something I don't know, will ya? Geeze...I haven't been surprised by the news or these "studies" in almost a decade, except on 9/11.
New study: "Sex causes pregnancy". "Viloence causes death". "Smoking causes cancer".
Get jobs, guys- quit wasting money.
Tracing calls inbound or outbound to known terrorist phone numbers, in itself is probable-cause, no?
...but not "Faux News"?
Why does this fact always get overlooked on CNN, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and the New York Times?
It's a media war children- Demos want their dynasty back. See'em play with Alito, showing their arrogance and transparency.
Just another non-issue. I should keep track of these, they're starting to get voluminous.
That after a big setback, SCOX goes to $2.00 a share, and when it's been at $4.00 a share for a week or two, we heare more about the case again? This is the 2nd or 3rd cycle of this.
Someone's losing a LOT of money here. Usually investors ebb and flow in increments; this is more like a switch. Who in their right mind would keep funding this shell of a company?
Well, of course not; stems cells that don't involve killing people are the point of the article, no? I'm fine with this. Totally clam-like.
:)
I just took a smidge of offense that an original poster seemed cavalier about taking lives of people who, by their very definition, are innocent. As things progress, I see more people who treat this like waste, than life. Religious or not, it just seems wrong to me. I welcome an alternative!
How about an alternative fuel, next?
Yeah, that'd be me, the "hardliner".
I just think that, as societies go, killing children is no way to fix any problem. Doesn't this seem wrong to you? Even a little?
And ya just KNOW that once it's allowed for any reason, there'll spring up baby farms to fill the need. Remember the big'ol welfare act that gave extra money to people that had more kids? We got a bunch of kids that no one wanted...and made under-educated criminals with no sense of purpose. Misery abounds.
But, at least _they_ got to live...
Is that "lacking in compassion", since I'm Conservative? I don't think so.
How's the Firefly theme song go again?
...You can't take the sky from me...
Take my home, take my land, make it where I cannot stand.
Sky == Linux.
Your copy awaits. Avoid all this convoluded BS and the daily circus entirely. How can you guys STAND it?
Tell me again how my speakers and monitor have to be replaced so's I can play media on Vista...I love that.
Pretty hard to phish with ASCII email...
I couldn't have written it better.
All the debate that's happened here, and this story was a media ploy all along. It appears that "The once grey lady" of the New York Times shows how transparent it's become at propoganda.
http://drudgereport.com/flash9nyt.htm
Yes, this whole thing was a farce; that article was to promote a book.
This is what I'm talking about. Very nearly 50% of Americans have been convinced, despite clear history to the contrary, that America is *the* preiminent source of evil in this world. If you think it is, you've been programmed, period.
Who's maintaining the Geneva Convention? America, Australia, Britain, maybe Canada? Everyone else, it seems uses wholesale torture and could care less. Well today McCain just bound our hands EVEN FURTHER by legislation intended to make him president. Worse yet, the fact there IS legislation suggests we use torture as a daily constitutional or something.
We lost 40,000 men pushing Hitler's troops out of France, for example; little boys, who's life was just starting...given a gun and told to climb the hedgerows. Now, France acts as if doing so for their freedom was an imposition. They didn't feel that way when the survivors liberated them.
These are end-times. You should already know that by now. Things are about to spiral out of control, helped partially by the press who'd sell out their own country for the sake of a political ideology. So now we're evil, now we need to be stopped, and Bush is a terrorist for giving freedom to oppressed people.
Well, believe it, if you must.
The Freedom of Speech is tainted (McCain/Fiendgold bill) and now Private Property is under attack. And the surprise is, most people didn't notice either of these being violated. Most Bush-bashing zombies never got the word; I guess the legacy media decided it wasn't important.
I've lived through three decades of the liberals calling Republicans fascist. But when they tell us what to think, how to talk, and over stretch the "Seperation of Church and State" rules, I hear Panzers.
Arbite Mach Frei, ya'all!
Does anyone here remember the towers falling, crushing something like 3,000 people, who's only crime was showing up at work? Remember the panic? Remember the lack of airlines for weeks?
Did we have any guarantee that the attacks were really "over"?
No, like always, it's Bush's fault. That's so easy. Just listen to CNN and the legacy media. You never would have used your own mind, anyway.
This world will be under governmental/computerized control in about 20 years.
Someone of imporantace will come to power-a nice guy, a hard worker. He'll solve some logstanding problems. He'll suffer some kind of head injury which will kill him, but he'll be revived. And when he starts doing things from there on out, it'll seem a miracle. Then he'll bring peace in the middle east.
You'll love him.
But he'll completely control access to all purchases. This will seem convenient at first, but he will soon control the mindspace, too. And once you've supported him, changing him will be impossible. And he'll become in real terms, all the things the left thinks George Bush is now, but worse. Then comes the war. It's going to be miserable on a planetwide scale.
Don't you guys READ? The story's only 2650 years old, sheesh.
Believe me...I tell everyone I meet!
Yeah....tell CP/M, MP/M and DOS I said "Hi", and that I miss them a little. ;)
TELL MICROSOFT TO STOP LEAVING PORTS OPEN. If they were actually IN this war against viruses, instead of making money from them, it'd be a lot easier.
Sheesh. Put on a helmet.
Gaim, though it's not as full-featured as the original clients (short on special features) is a workhorse for all the REAL uses of these things. And, it both works in Windows, Linux, and maybe the Mac...
I think it's gaim.sourceforge.net; if not, it's on Google.
There are a lot of myths being presented by the media during this culture war. While millions mindlessly watch TV and believe what it says, it's still not true.
For example:
"Everyone" knows that no WMDs were found in Iraq, yet the New York Times has an article written May 22, 2004 claiming how local Iraqis are in danger because George Bush wants to remove the 500T of yellowcake (raw) uranium and the 1.77T of enriched uranium by driving it out through the city streets.
"Everyone" knows that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but we attacked them anyway. Even though they house Abu-Abas, Abu-Nidal, and two other very-highly-prized terrorists that a lot of nations want to kill. And there was a 727 found there for training terrorists. And there was a $20,000 "bounty" Saddam was paying to any family who had a homocide bomber blow themselves up.
"Everyone" knows that 2,000 deaths in a war with tanks is an absurd, out-of-control quagmire. Except the DoD has posted that the number of militarys deaths each year when we stay home is 1,200. Except that in Vietnam (a real quagmire) we used to see 600 coffins a *week*.
Yeah, I know it's all political, but the evidence is clear; it's where one can look it up, open to anyone, they just won't stop listening to CNN.
Go to Iraq with a translator, see the officials, then look around. Compare what the officials say to what the locals say. Then maybe we can put these issues to bed and get other things done for a change.
And yet...the numbers are climbing; a week ago a report informed us that our numbers now double, on the desktop, the MacIntosh.
I set up DOS/Windows shops from Huntsville, AL to Chicago, IL...the amazing mass-hysteria of this mega-monopoly is partly my fault; sorry. But now I work to correct it.
An important concept to remember is that while there are still things to be improved, one virus of 200,000+ and your day is toast, your work evaporated, AND YET YOU STILL STAY WITHOUT TRYING TO CHANGE IT.
We did. And every day it gets better, not more expensive.
Enjoy the show!
There's a webpage telling me that Microsoft doesn't support that any more. :)
"While it is a matter of national pride, China in specific also sees this as a way to increase the reputation of its high-tech exports."
Not to mention that it plays a part in the next World War...
This has to be the second or third time I've seen this headline. For computers with real OS's, who needs to shorten the reboot time? Is this really a problem? The machine I'm on hasn't been powered off in about four years...
A contrarian play:
For two decades, every available dollar has been put into making US upgrade to newer and more expensive computers....so now he invests millions to lock some in time? That's kinda ironic.
Anyone check for flying cars? I love it when people make broad statements like this. Obviously they've never spent time in the real world.
:)
Who *wants* to live 300 years, anyway? Life sucks enough already. I can live without the 200+ years of spam, insurance payments, and everything else. Did he say we'd have 19-YO bodies? He didn't, did he...
Well, there's this, and there's Harry Potter...
I think the term would be called "aboriginal Americans" since they'd have been here first, if we can trust the guesses of science. That PC crap is not only dangerous, but fascist; I merely want to get the terms right- don't feel offended.
The same thing happened on New Zealand around 1200 AD, and on Madagascar around 1400 AD. It quite possibly happened in Australia as well.Well, we all know how much fun it was to bring Cane Toads to Australia, now, don't we. :)
My problem with this is, scientists asserting too much control over the environment. Like the GM corn thing (first message in the thread) and other historical glitches. Like coating the Hindenburg in SRB (rocket) fuel. Or thinking it'd be "cool" to make a pit-bull with a lion's head. (Chimera)
Like it or not, there are some things scientist just learn about, not actuate, ya know? At least until they completely understand it. The rest of us get no warning it's happening, as a unit can guess the outcome they've overlooked, and will be held accountable for their mistakes. (Like stomped, shocked, or "virused" out of existance.
Is this the same crew who was pushing for reanimation of that wooly mammoth a while back?
If these animals died out 13,000 years ago, doesn't the secular world view this as a mistake on the part of natural selection? Are we really going to second-guess that?
'Cause if we are, I'm gonna lobby for bigger guns and trample-insurance.
Ya know, there needs to be just one "idiot" packaged with all these overeducated intellectuals to put the brakes on now and then. Remember GM corn- how the scientists thought 200 yards was far enough away from natural corn to be safe....while forgetting that the typical native honeybee has a cruising range of over five miles?
Ya never see these people trying to reanimate the sabre-tooth tiger....wouldn't that be earnest, thoughtful re-instatement of missing species? Hey! Let's make a dragon!....
Am I the only one to have seen every release of Microsoft since CP/M? Must be.
OF COURSE the virus writers already have a jump on the product before the beta is done. You don't really think 8,000 viruses this year so far, just *happen* do you?
The cycle continues.
The release.
The press proclaiming that it isn't selling. A handful of corporations jump on it for the same stupid reasons one can only make when earning more than a million dollars each year. (corporate stupidity).
Then comes the inevidable "We're going to stop supporting old release X" when more jump on board.
Just as people are getting settled in, OH! It's time for a new Office and maybe Works! The old ones are grossly incapable of doing simple math and are seriously lacking 'cool', so the herd begins to turn and shed their cash.
There are still people running DOS, ya know. And Wfw. And Win9x. They're happy as long as they don't use the net. (So they're safe)
When will corporate America and the man on the street tire of being surprised at this rope-a-dope?