As of February 2006, Orange has offered Edge in UK, France, Slovakia, Romania, Poland and Belgium (in Belgium as Mobistar).
Of course it isn't marketed heavily. The much faster UMTS and HSDPA protocols are being deployed by many european providers, so why would any of them market the antiquated Edge?
Yes, it improves significantly when using a native partition. I use Xen in the enterprise, using software raid + LVM to create partitions for Xen. There are also users on the Xen lists reporting success combining SANs, software raid, and LVM for high availability.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that Edge is available from various European providers. Edge is faster than GPRS, but slower than UMTS. My understanding is that Edge is easily (and inexpensively) layered on top of existing GPRS infrastructure, while UMTS (3G) is much faster but also considerably more expensive for the operator.
Which is the scary thing here. Some posters have suggested paying cash. What if your credit card is stolen? The US Government will infringe on your privacy rights?
My wife just had her card (electronically) stolen, and it was used to purchase an airplane ticket.
I believe that with Trusted Computing in a virtual-machine, the TC commands must be passed back to the hardware. At least until someone comes up with a software emulated TC chip. However, I'm not an expert on this -- the whole idea just makes me sick.
My argument was in response to those saying, "don't go to such joints." You're advocating that this is an unreasonable fear. I wasn't advocating either position, but giving a suggestion for those that are determined to protect their privacy.
Personally, I think that allowing data to be so freely stored, it will not be long before it is connected to other information. How long before states like Pennsylvania pass laws that require bars and beer stores to swipe driver's licenses, and provide this to a central database? (Perhaps its being done already?) That central database would be cross-referenced with vehicle registration information to find car license plates. From car license plates, traffic cameras (which, around here, are everywhere) can locate vehicles and provide police a 'drunkard radar'.
The technology is here, the infrastructure is here. We only need an implementation, if it doesn't already exist.
Taking this a step further, the driver's license can be tied to credit card records to increase the 'priority' of big spenders. Taking a step further, bar patrons could be tracked by RFID tags (wristbands?) to create priority. Perhaps a bit excessive, but what about biodegradable RFID tags -- could tags be included in drinks to provide wireless 'breathalysers'?
I'm not sure if this stuff is a good idea or not. Drunk driving is a dangerous, illegal thing; however, these forms of tracking are also fairly scary.
Except when your friends ask you to meet you there, and they're already inside... you've almost no choice but to go in. Of course, you can simply never return there again -- but they've already got your info. Personally, I just don't go to clubs. I still have friends that do, but between the noise (my ears are very sensitive), and the carding.. I'm not too fond it.
However, there is one thing you can do, if you're not interested in having your license swiped. Birth certificates and passports are also legal documents for age identification and are not something that the club/bar can swipe.
This is hardly interesting, this isn't an accomplishment of any significance. Not are others claiming this has been done before, its really not very difficult.
The most difficult challenge, I think would be the matters of bus bandwidth and storage. As expected, the article makes note of the storage concerns, and they 'took the easy way out' and mirrored the data across several arrays.
What would be more impressive is if they used native infiniband storage arrays, could access them as a single NAS mount (rather than as JBOD) and even better if they could incorporate writing.
I am incorrect about being tbps... but you're also not correct. It would be 500 ports for 1tbps, because each port of a '1000mbps port' actually does 2000mbps, combining total RX and TX. The maximum switching fabric speed of a 40 port gigabit switch would then be 80gbps.
Interestingly, from a pure processing angle, to process 9320675.55 PPS, the corresponding number of packets for 80gbps with 9k frames, a system will need 932 MIPS... well within the range of a low-end Athlon or Pentium III processor. To process 1500mtu frames, though, a much more modern processor, like an AMD XP 2400+ would be required. Less would be required with a TCP Offload Engine (TOE).
Regardless, this isn't even possible over PCIe -- heck, from what I can tell, it isn't even possible over infiniband with any commercially available products. One is either building their own hardware (at which point, they might as well just build a real switch), or building a cluster (at which point, interconnects and cost again become an issue).
Actually, if its gigabit ethernet with full-duplex switching, it is a lot more than 40gbps. Each port can do a maximum of 2gbps (1gbps TX, 1gpbs RX). Gigabit switches can push 10's of terabits per second over their backplanes.
You're right, the next big thing (and its happening already) is internet television, already I'm watching Amazon's Fishbowl with Bill Maher, and downloading television shows on iTunes. ABC and FOX are putting their shows online for free, while other channels are putting promo episodes online. Sony's Musicbox replaces the now-defunct MTV, and YouTube has more than replaced public television.
Now, if only international copyright laws and/or paranoia would be cleared up enough that I wouldn't need to use proxy servers to get to this content from outside the USA.
I suspect (since I have no references to cite) that the "poor" often are in their situation due to bad money management. This means that they're more likely to spend their money on "luxury" items. For families with children, on the other hand, it may not be a bad investment for them, the children of such families will obtain a great benefit from the opportunities that such connectivity will provide them. Most parents wouldn't mind struggling a bit financially if it means that their children will have an opportunity to excel, in fact, most parents struggle to provide for their children. Additionally, I wouldn't doubt that there are often subsidiaries to help lay the infractructure in poorer areas. So no, I don't think that broadband infractructure in poorer areas is a bad investment.
Also, most 'richer' areas are populated by older people. I also suspect that many 20-30 year olds live in apartments and new housing developments. Areas with older homes and townhouses are less likely to receive multiple broadband options, as there tend to be an older population in those areas. This is shame if you're young, living in those areas, and it is a shame for your parents and grandparents (and esspecially for you when you stay over).
> SWT is a pain to use, and doesn't support printing on any relevant platform.
What!? I wrote SWT apps that printed all the way back in 2000. It was easy as hell, and worked on Solaris, Linux, Windows, and Mac OS. What other relevant platforms did you mean?
ASP is a container, NOT a language. In previous versions of ASP, it defaulted to running VBScript, now you must explicitly specify the language. VBScript is still supported, but C# is now 'flagship', and is the basis for much of the new code coming out today. Of course, with so many developers (and code) coming from legacy ASP, VBScript is still going strong.
Your parents in the trunk of an old Polish Fiat (126p)? I smell bullshit. You can hardly fit two people in the front of one of those things, I don't think it would be possible for two grown adults (or teenagers, for that matter) to fit into the trunk of one of those cars.
Some implementations of 'mv' (gnu mv) will function the same as a cp/rm, If and only if moving a file between different filesystems. Some variants of 'mv' will not function between filesystems at all. When moving a file within the same filesystem, mv operates as you described.
My company, grokthis.net, is a competitor to unixshell, offering Xen VPS accounts. I work with Xen daily. I'll admit that when we first rolled out Xen, we had to halt sales for a period as well, due to bugs. Xen is very buggy and unstable, or at least its tools are. I wouldn't necessarily say it is ready for the enterprise. However, once you're aware of Xen's quirks, it can be both quite manageable and very fitting in an enterprise environment. My point here is that I wouldn't advise a SMB to deploy Xen without some very seriously knowledgable staff, and without a fair bit of warning. There are bugs, they're serious, and the only solution is to tip-toe around them. However, with well trained technicians, experimentation, and experience, Xen can be fairly stable.
Unfortunately, my biggest concern is that the (fairly serious) bugs we've reported aren't being fixed.
We've found Xen to be excellent and stable for us, but only after we were able to cut our teeth and work through the bugs.
The dock originates from NeXT, which predates Windows 95. My understanding is that the Finder/OS support files the way they have always supported them, but in OSX added some additional ways from NeXT (.app folders, for example), and yes, a little bit of file extension support (ala Windows). However, supporting file extensions isn't an issue of copying invention or innovation, it is a matter of compatability. For instance, without a file extension, how easy is it for the operating system to determine what application should open a specific XML document? Without using file extensions or filesystem metadata (which wouldn't exist if the file was made on a non-mac system), this could be quite difficult.
> That means that MS owns it and all the data that they claim that they own (i.e. the data that you produced > on their OS).
They do not own content produced from the OS, if this was the case no company would use Windows... you're implying that if someone wrote a program underneath Windows, that Microsoft would own it. If you think this, you're completely ignorant.
The whole point of SSID broadcast is to advertise the network as being available to the end user. If you do not want your network accessed, disable the SSID broadcast. I believe if the SSID is broadcast and the network is not encrypted, then it is fair game.
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As of February 2006, Orange has offered Edge in UK, France, Slovakia, Romania, Poland and Belgium (in Belgium as Mobistar).
Of course it isn't marketed heavily. The much faster UMTS and HSDPA protocols are being deployed by many european providers, so why would any of them market the antiquated Edge?
> If so, does your performance improve?
Yes, it improves significantly when using a native partition. I use Xen in the enterprise, using software raid + LVM to create partitions for Xen. There are also users on the Xen lists reporting success combining SANs, software raid, and LVM for high availability.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that Edge is available from various European providers. Edge is faster than GPRS, but slower than UMTS. My understanding is that Edge is easily (and inexpensively) layered on top of existing GPRS infrastructure, while UMTS (3G) is much faster but also considerably more expensive for the operator.
Which is the scary thing here. Some posters have suggested paying cash. What if your credit card is stolen? The US Government will infringe on your privacy rights?
My wife just had her card (electronically) stolen, and it was used to purchase an airplane ticket.
I believe that with Trusted Computing in a virtual-machine, the TC commands must be passed back to the hardware. At least until someone comes up with a software emulated TC chip. However, I'm not an expert on this -- the whole idea just makes me sick.
My argument was in response to those saying, "don't go to such joints." You're advocating that this is an unreasonable fear. I wasn't advocating either position, but giving a suggestion for those that are determined to protect their privacy.
Personally, I think that allowing data to be so freely stored, it will not be long before it is connected to other information. How long before states like Pennsylvania pass laws that require bars and beer stores to swipe driver's licenses, and provide this to a central database? (Perhaps its being done already?) That central database would be cross-referenced with vehicle registration information to find car license plates. From car license plates, traffic cameras (which, around here, are everywhere) can locate vehicles and provide police a 'drunkard radar'.
The technology is here, the infrastructure is here. We only need an implementation, if it doesn't already exist.
Taking this a step further, the driver's license can be tied to credit card records to increase the 'priority' of big spenders. Taking a step further, bar patrons could be tracked by RFID tags (wristbands?) to create priority. Perhaps a bit excessive, but what about biodegradable RFID tags -- could tags be included in drinks to provide wireless 'breathalysers'?
I'm not sure if this stuff is a good idea or not. Drunk driving is a dangerous, illegal thing; however, these forms of tracking are also fairly scary.
Except when your friends ask you to meet you there, and they're already inside... you've almost no choice but to go in. Of course, you can simply never return there again -- but they've already got your info. Personally, I just don't go to clubs. I still have friends that do, but between the noise (my ears are very sensitive), and the carding.. I'm not too fond it.
However, there is one thing you can do, if you're not interested in having your license swiped. Birth certificates and passports are also legal documents for age identification and are not something that the club/bar can swipe.
This is hardly interesting, this isn't an accomplishment of any significance. Not are others claiming this has been done before, its really not very difficult.
The most difficult challenge, I think would be the matters of bus bandwidth and storage. As expected, the article makes note of the storage concerns, and they 'took the easy way out' and mirrored the data across several arrays.
What would be more impressive is if they used native infiniband storage arrays, could access them as a single NAS mount (rather than as JBOD) and even better if they could incorporate writing.
I am incorrect about being tbps... but you're also not correct. It would be 500 ports for 1tbps, because each port of a '1000mbps port' actually does 2000mbps, combining total RX and TX. The maximum switching fabric speed of a 40 port gigabit switch would then be 80gbps.
Interestingly, from a pure processing angle, to process 9320675.55 PPS, the corresponding number of packets for 80gbps with 9k frames, a system will need 932 MIPS... well within the range of a low-end Athlon or Pentium III processor. To process 1500mtu frames, though, a much more modern processor, like an AMD XP 2400+ would be required. Less would be required with a TCP Offload Engine (TOE).
Regardless, this isn't even possible over PCIe -- heck, from what I can tell, it isn't even possible over infiniband with any commercially available products. One is either building their own hardware (at which point, they might as well just build a real switch), or building a cluster (at which point, interconnects and cost again become an issue).
References:
How slow is gigabit ethernet?
PCI Express Technology
Actually, if its gigabit ethernet with full-duplex switching, it is a lot more than 40gbps. Each port can do a maximum of 2gbps (1gbps TX, 1gpbs RX). Gigabit switches can push 10's of terabits per second over their backplanes.
> The "poor" are that way for a variety of reasons, not just the one
> you stated.
Clearly, that is why I said, "often".
> "I would have been on the street if not for credit cards, which I
> used to pay bills until I could find another job."
This could be considered as bad money management. Although I understand that extenuating circumstances may have led to this path.
> I have student loans coming up when I graduate this spring
So you're a poor college student? Well, thats a completely different thing!
> I would consider broadband Internet access the best bang for your
> entertainment buck
Agreed on all accounts, but additionally, as I said, it also provides opportunities to resolve poverty, so its also a good investment.
You're right, the next big thing (and its happening already) is internet television, already I'm watching Amazon's Fishbowl with Bill Maher, and downloading television shows on iTunes. ABC and FOX are putting their shows online for free, while other channels are putting promo episodes online. Sony's Musicbox replaces the now-defunct MTV, and YouTube has more than replaced public television.
Now, if only international copyright laws and/or paranoia would be cleared up enough that I wouldn't need to use proxy servers to get to this content from outside the USA.
I suspect (since I have no references to cite) that the "poor" often are in their situation due to bad money management. This means that they're more likely to spend their money on "luxury" items. For families with children, on the other hand, it may not be a bad investment for them, the children of such families will obtain a great benefit from the opportunities that such connectivity will provide them. Most parents wouldn't mind struggling a bit financially if it means that their children will have an opportunity to excel, in fact, most parents struggle to provide for their children. Additionally, I wouldn't doubt that there are often subsidiaries to help lay the infractructure in poorer areas. So no, I don't think that broadband infractructure in poorer areas is a bad investment.
Also, most 'richer' areas are populated by older people. I also suspect that many 20-30 year olds live in apartments and new housing developments. Areas with older homes and townhouses are less likely to receive multiple broadband options, as there tend to be an older population in those areas. This is shame if you're young, living in those areas, and it is a shame for your parents and grandparents (and esspecially for you when you stay over).
She may have not been registered in that area yet, or isn't an US Citizen.
> SWT is a pain to use, and doesn't support printing on any relevant platform.
What!? I wrote SWT apps that printed all the way back in 2000. It was easy as hell, and worked on Solaris, Linux, Windows, and Mac OS. What other relevant platforms did you mean?
ASP is a container, NOT a language. In previous versions of ASP, it defaulted to running VBScript, now you must explicitly specify the language. VBScript is still supported, but C# is now 'flagship', and is the basis for much of the new code coming out today. Of course, with so many developers (and code) coming from legacy ASP, VBScript is still going strong.
Your parents in the trunk of an old Polish Fiat (126p)? I smell bullshit. You can hardly fit two people in the front of one of those things, I don't think it would be possible for two grown adults (or teenagers, for that matter) to fit into the trunk of one of those cars.
Except that OLD content is still in HTML. Worst, the old content has probably been converted to static HTML.
Some implementations of 'mv' (gnu mv) will function the same as a cp/rm, If and only if moving a file between different filesystems. Some variants of 'mv' will not function between filesystems at all. When moving a file within the same filesystem, mv operates as you described.
My company, grokthis.net, is a competitor to unixshell, offering Xen VPS accounts. I work with Xen daily. I'll admit that when we first rolled out Xen, we had to halt sales for a period as well, due to bugs. Xen is very buggy and unstable, or at least its tools are. I wouldn't necessarily say it is ready for the enterprise. However, once you're aware of Xen's quirks, it can be both quite manageable and very fitting in an enterprise environment. My point here is that I wouldn't advise a SMB to deploy Xen without some very seriously knowledgable staff, and without a fair bit of warning. There are bugs, they're serious, and the only solution is to tip-toe around them. However, with well trained technicians, experimentation, and experience, Xen can be fairly stable.
Unfortunately, my biggest concern is that the (fairly serious) bugs we've reported aren't being fixed.
We've found Xen to be excellent and stable for us, but only after we were able to cut our teeth and work through the bugs.
The dock originates from NeXT, which predates Windows 95. My understanding is that the Finder/OS support files the way they have always supported them, but in OSX added some additional ways from NeXT (.app folders, for example), and yes, a little bit of file extension support (ala Windows). However, supporting file extensions isn't an issue of copying invention or innovation, it is a matter of compatability. For instance, without a file extension, how easy is it for the operating system to determine what application should open a specific XML document? Without using file extensions or filesystem metadata (which wouldn't exist if the file was made on a non-mac system), this could be quite difficult.
Rather than force others to locate supporting evidence for your silly claims, how about providing your own citations?
> It is leased to you.
No, it is licensed.
> That means that MS owns it and all the data that they claim that they own (i.e. the data that you produced
> on their OS).
They do not own content produced from the OS, if this was the case no company would use Windows... you're implying that if someone wrote a program underneath Windows, that Microsoft would own it. If you think this, you're completely ignorant.
The whole point of SSID broadcast is to advertise the network as being available to the end user. If you do not want your network accessed, disable the SSID broadcast. I believe if the SSID is broadcast and the network is not encrypted, then it is fair game.
Cliff is the slashdot employee that pushed the question to the frontpage, not the person asking the question...