Hot grits poured down Natalie Portman's pants... (which I never got the point of, because I don't think she's done anything that justifies 2nd and 3rd degree burns on her groin...)
You raise a valid point. I was so intent on the font aspect that I didn't see your take on it.
Thanks! (sig line notwithstanding - this is an irony-free post.)
The major point of fonts is to improve communications. Clarity and lack of ambiguity are pretty much the main goals we are striving for, with style being important but not vital.
These two decided to have some fun with what could be done, and they succeeded. Good for them. Unfortunately, in achieving the style, they failed on the clarity.
Time to turn the page.
I wish I had mod points - you put your finger on the point that armchair revolutionaries overlook.
Retroactive resistance, so to speak, is safer. It was notable how the number of members of underground groups against the Nazis increased directly with the time after liberation.
In this instance, by failing to read the wind, Dice bared this truth to all of us; reminded us that this community isn't really ours so much as it is theirs. Absolutely that was a hurt to the community.
Now that's something that I can take to the bank.
You see, I lost that aspect of it when I was seeing people posting line after line of "Fuck Beta", often anonymously, and often seeming to offer insults to anybody who felt differently.
You, on the other hand, have answered my questions without questioning my intelligence, or heaping scorn and abuse on my head for daring to have a different opinion, or generally resorting to name-calling, so I don't think you qualify for "bitter vituperation". <grin> Rather, you qualify as someone who helped me decide that this site is worth staying on. Thanks!
You're a fucking idiot. Slashdot isn't about the articles and it isn't about the fucking pathetic summaries. Slashdot is about the user-generated content. Slashdot is the comments.
Now, you think all that time spent by knowledgable members posting all that good stuff comes free? People invested their time, care and attention here. Slashdot isn't a fucking TV. Slashdot is a community.
The reason the response was negative and loud is because the beta makes it harder to follow threads. It makes it harder to follow discussion context. It makes it harder to comment within the discussion context.The beta redesign ruins the community experience. Dice is trying to turn Slashdot into another Digg or Reddit. Soon, you'll be flooded with ads you can't turn off, looking for the useful, informative and interesting comments that used to be posted here. Fuck that shit.
TL;DR: FUCK BETA!
Now, at least some reasoned, if seemingly over-wrought, debate.
You argue that the content, being user-provided, will go away if people are unable to see the content organized in a sensible fashion. Okay, I can buy that. I also hadn't considered that since the content is provided by users, they might have a reason to be a bit more passionate about how their thoughts are presented.
What I don't get is the need for insult to anybody who disagrees, or the call to leave Slashdot in droves even after they acknowledged that the beta was not working out and removed it.
And, again, I submit that you have validated my other point. Bitter vituperation towards the failed beta, even after it's gone, may do as much to drive away readership as the beta
I realized that the "Beta sucks!" chorus was bothering me, not just because it was a huge overreaction to, as you pointed out, a _proposed_ change to a _free_ site.
The thing that bothers me the most is that there seems to be almost a competition to show who can be the most obnoxious in registering their objections... from people who went through "gamer shaming" in high school, insults about nerdiness through college, and what not. It seems that these are people who have wanted to strike back at a handy target.
Like the French Bourbon dynasty when they were restored to power after Napoleon's defeat, they seem to have remembered everything, forgotten nothing, and learned nothing.
We can do it that way, sure. It'll be just as effective as weighing each guy (with or without carrot nose of course) against a duck.
Yes, but with the cage match, we can make a lot more money from sponsoring, ticket sales, and broadcast rights. The potential audience for the duck weighing is probably not so much (although there would probably be some overlap).
How dare you tell me that I am over-reacting! Who gave you the right to judge whether my honestly-held opinions are or are not relevant to the situation?
By God, it's people like you who oppress us and censor us by saying that, after we denounce you for Godless Communist heathens, mindless socialist prats, and other names that are considered unsavory by the obviously-biased mainstream media, perhaps we should modify our language.
</sarcasm>
(Did I forget that <sarcasm> tag again? Oh, that's embarrassing...)
Seriously, though... your point is well taken. Slashdot hasn't always been so great with article summaries - but said summaries are also usually written by the submitter, so sometimes one can find an axe being ground.
As for overwrought expressions... the Internet is the voice of the world, and there are those who seem to think that the only way to be heard distinctly is to scream everything.
That would make pouring hot grits down her pants difficult - (B) determining "down" in zero-G is an issue, and (A) being naked, she wouldn't have pants available.
The problem with 1990's nostalgia is that it spent time pining for the 1970's... which in turn was bemoaning the 50's.
So it doesn't matter which nostalgia you pick - it isn't as good as it used to be.
For me, I started with RedHat 6.2, dual-booting it with a Windows 98 machine... then tried other distros (including one called Caldera) before going with Mandrake. After a while, I got side-tracked... and then started to work on trying to set up an older home machine as a server, and worked with DSL and Zenwalk before getting side-tracked again... then when I got an older laptop from my father-in-law, started using Ubuntu, especially when it just worked without getting too bogged down with eye candy. That was followed up with Linux Mint, which now shares space on my laptop with Windows 7, while another laptop has version 1 of Peppermint Linux (it works, so what the hey?) and serves as a file server and alarm clock. I have different distros burned onto flash drives, and hope to have more soon.
This is probably an indication that I am all over the map - so if you can find a pattern out of all of this, congratulations!
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"This time for sure! Nothin' up my sleeve..." - Bullwinkle J. Moose
... because everyone knows that he who acetates is lost.
<snip>Donald Trump... is more a comedy act than a candidate.
Now, if only he were funny...
Hot grits poured down Natalie Portman's pants... (which I never got the point of, because I don't think she's done anything that justifies 2nd and 3rd degree burns on her groin...)
Didn't Han Solo end up going there? (Extra points to anyone who can name the author...)
According to the "True and Actualle Historie of the Iceish Lands" (Stinky McFarland translation), the Cod Wars were then followed by the Cod Peace...
That was awesome!... I wonder what it meant.
How about "See you soon!" or "Don't think of it as dying - think of it as getting out ahead of the crowd."
You're using facts, logic, and restraint in your posts. You must be new here.
You raise a valid point. I was so intent on the font aspect that I didn't see your take on it. Thanks! (sig line notwithstanding - this is an irony-free post.)
The major point of fonts is to improve communications. Clarity and lack of ambiguity are pretty much the main goals we are striving for, with style being important but not vital. These two decided to have some fun with what could be done, and they succeeded. Good for them. Unfortunately, in achieving the style, they failed on the clarity. Time to turn the page.
... using herbal remedies causes people to believe in conspiracy theories.
I wish I had mod points - you put your finger on the point that armchair revolutionaries overlook. Retroactive resistance, so to speak, is safer. It was notable how the number of members of underground groups against the Nazis increased directly with the time after liberation.
Witchcraft! Deviltry! Sorcery! Isolationism! Free Silver!
In this instance, by failing to read the wind, Dice bared this truth to all of us; reminded us that this community isn't really ours so much as it is theirs. Absolutely that was a hurt to the community.
Now that's something that I can take to the bank.
You see, I lost that aspect of it when I was seeing people posting line after line of "Fuck Beta", often anonymously, and often seeming to offer insults to anybody who felt differently.
You, on the other hand, have answered my questions without questioning my intelligence, or heaping scorn and abuse on my head for daring to have a different opinion, or generally resorting to name-calling, so I don't think you qualify for "bitter vituperation". <grin> Rather, you qualify as someone who helped me decide that this site is worth staying on. Thanks!
You're a fucking idiot. Slashdot isn't about the articles and it isn't about the fucking pathetic summaries. Slashdot is about the user-generated content. Slashdot is the comments.
Now, you think all that time spent by knowledgable members posting all that good stuff comes free? People invested their time, care and attention here. Slashdot isn't a fucking TV. Slashdot is a community.
The reason the response was negative and loud is because the beta makes it harder to follow threads. It makes it harder to follow discussion context. It makes it harder to comment within the discussion context.The beta redesign ruins the community experience. Dice is trying to turn Slashdot into another Digg or Reddit. Soon, you'll be flooded with ads you can't turn off, looking for the useful, informative and interesting comments that used to be posted here. Fuck that shit.
TL;DR: FUCK BETA!
Now, at least some reasoned, if seemingly over-wrought, debate.
You argue that the content, being user-provided, will go away if people are unable to see the content organized in a sensible fashion. Okay, I can buy that. I also hadn't considered that since the content is provided by users, they might have a reason to be a bit more passionate about how their thoughts are presented.
What I don't get is the need for insult to anybody who disagrees, or the call to leave Slashdot in droves even after they acknowledged that the beta was not working out and removed it.
And, again, I submit that you have validated my other point. Bitter vituperation towards the failed beta, even after it's gone, may do as much to drive away readership as the beta
You have put a name to my pain, sir/madam.
I realized that the "Beta sucks!" chorus was bothering me, not just because it was a huge overreaction to, as you pointed out, a _proposed_ change to a _free_ site.
The thing that bothers me the most is that there seems to be almost a competition to show who can be the most obnoxious in registering their objections... from people who went through "gamer shaming" in high school, insults about nerdiness through college, and what not. It seems that these are people who have wanted to strike back at a handy target.
Like the French Bourbon dynasty when they were restored to power after Napoleon's defeat, they seem to have remembered everything, forgotten nothing, and learned nothing.
Someone has a new hammer and every problem is looking like nail...
And then they discover the screwdriver, and declare the hammer to be obsolete.
We can do it that way, sure. It'll be just as effective as weighing each guy (with or without carrot nose of course) against a duck.
Yes, but with the cage match, we can make a lot more money from sponsoring, ticket sales, and broadcast rights. The potential audience for the duck weighing is probably not so much (although there would probably be some overlap).
Simmer down? Simmer down?
How dare you tell me that I am over-reacting! Who gave you the right to judge whether my honestly-held opinions are or are not relevant to the situation?
By God, it's people like you who oppress us and censor us by saying that, after we denounce you for Godless Communist heathens, mindless socialist prats, and other names that are considered unsavory by the obviously-biased mainstream media, perhaps we should modify our language.
</sarcasm>
(Did I forget that <sarcasm> tag again? Oh, that's embarrassing...)
Seriously, though... your point is well taken. Slashdot hasn't always been so great with article summaries - but said summaries are also usually written by the submitter, so sometimes one can find an axe being ground.
As for overwrought expressions... the Internet is the voice of the world, and there are those who seem to think that the only way to be heard distinctly is to scream everything.
I wish to protest. There are some things that I can simply let go, but the above post was unwarranted crewelty.
That would make pouring hot grits down her pants difficult - (B) determining "down" in zero-G is an issue, and (A) being naked, she wouldn't have pants available.
Well, that was literate. Any attempt to match wits with such an individual would be foolhardy.
"Clearly, he has a dizzying intellect."
The problem with 1990's nostalgia is that it spent time pining for the 1970's... which in turn was bemoaning the 50's. So it doesn't matter which nostalgia you pick - it isn't as good as it used to be.
For me, I started with RedHat 6.2, dual-booting it with a Windows 98 machine... then tried other distros (including one called Caldera) before going with Mandrake. After a while, I got side-tracked... and then started to work on trying to set up an older home machine as a server, and worked with DSL and Zenwalk before getting side-tracked again... then when I got an older laptop from my father-in-law, started using Ubuntu, especially when it just worked without getting too bogged down with eye candy. That was followed up with Linux Mint, which now shares space on my laptop with Windows 7, while another laptop has version 1 of Peppermint Linux (it works, so what the hey?) and serves as a file server and alarm clock. I have different distros burned onto flash drives, and hope to have more soon. This is probably an indication that I am all over the map - so if you can find a pattern out of all of this, congratulations!