Tesla warms (or cools) the battery as necessary before and during charging to ensure
the system works. At a SuperCharger recharging at outside
temp of 106 degrees F it is faintly amusing to hear
the fans in the charging cars all working hard to keep the batteries cool.
If cold enough it would probably take a while to heat the batteries enough
to really get charging started,....but I have no personal experience of that
and am sort of guessing.
This is not quite the right question to ask as it hints that 'charging is charging' and 'batteries are batteries'.
But Tesla goes to great lengths to control battery temp (cooling or heating the batteries as needed)
and charge rate during charging to ensure the
best possible batter life.
Leaf just hopes you won't let the batteries get too hot or cold when charging (unsure about temp control
while driving).
I admit I don't quite know how to phrase the 'right question':-)
Nope. On a long trip most stops will be 20 minutes at a SC and for a really long leg (or
one up a mountain or in really cold or hot temperatures) one might, once in a while,
take an hour. The distance between Super Charger stops would be 100-140 miles, usually.
Driving from San Francisco to Palm Desert we stopped more than
20 minutes just once. To eat.
Jason Levine is exactly right. A second critical change needed is to eliminate the Berne Convention from the US. That copyright feature forces copyright on everything you jot down. Whether you want copyright or not. Copyright should be, again, something one requests through specific action (such as writing it in the work) rather than being automatic.
Forgot to mention. The car instructions say AutoPilot is not to be used where
there are crossroads. In the Florida instance in question there were crossroads.
In addition, the trailer was said to have a completely empty underside. None of the
solid sheets installed on some trucks to improve fuel efficiency. So the road
under the truck looked clear (sort of)
Plenty of modern gas-engine cars make no noise besides tire noise on normal local roads.
Living on a corner with a stop sign I observe that even accelerating from
a stop is essentially silent for many modern non-electric vehicles.
When not at home it's really only sensible to use vpn to use the web. You know: to keep our web access private in a public place. So, Netflix does not want us to use what we paid for --- except at home? What?
Had a Mac Air, but
replaced with Dell XPS 13 developer edition with Linux (Ubuntu) using the
Gnome Flashback Metacity, not the default Unity
at login. Yes, Dell sells it with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS installed.
Long battery life, light weight, avoid the Apple bugs
and misfeatures.
Costs include the transit time. As others have noted,
public transit is much slower than driving in most cases.
I commuted via rail near San Francisco for years (caltrain)
and considered it ok. Not smelly, not too crowded except
on a MLB night. Still, useless now to take transit
as wife simply is no longer able to walk far enough
to make use of the limited times and access.
Rails are great because they own the space. Not competing with cars.
Buses are...generally horrible... as they have all the problems
of using the same roads as cars plus scheduling issues and
waiting-in-the-rain issues.
I'll believe Bolt when they start shipping to customers.
GM has a long history of not delivering what they
promised. Will Bolt be like Fiat 500e, loss leader,
hence low volume by plan or ???
Going to be interesting to watch.
RyanFenton: the use of various techniques to discredit
aspects of science that suggested
companies had to change their behavior began in the 1950's.
For example, denying that smoking harmed health.
Denying that chemicals were poisoning birds.
For the details see "Merchants of Doubt"
by Oreskes and Conway.
"Natural Effects" is a complete cop-out, since all natural effects involve
changes that force climate change. And those forcing
effects are measureable (are the deniers pretending the
forcing issues unmeasured or unmeasurable?).
Mounting sllghtly off the roof, to the roof, gets decent solar generation
and shades the roof in high summer and... minilmizes the danger
from high winds. Having panels up in the air on one of those
rare 50MPH winds is... scary.
Currently using an inexpensive single-led backyard white light.
6 inch square solar panel. Small battery hidden
somewhere inside. Stays astonishingly bright all night illuminating
a rose tree (pointing a bit down, not up at the sky). Way more than
enough to read by. Something to free much of the world from
darkness.
The last skype for Linux for Ubuntu is now 4 years old. And there is none for 64bit Linux. So there is no skype for Linux. And yet no one cares :-)
Tesla warms (or cools) the battery as necessary before and during charging to ensure the system works. At a SuperCharger recharging at outside temp of 106 degrees F it is faintly amusing to hear the fans in the charging cars all working hard to keep the batteries cool. If cold enough it would probably take a while to heat the batteries enough to really get charging started,....but I have no personal experience of that and am sort of guessing.
This is not quite the right question to ask as it hints that 'charging is charging' and 'batteries are batteries'. But Tesla goes to great lengths to control battery temp (cooling or heating the batteries as needed) and charge rate during charging to ensure the best possible batter life. Leaf just hopes you won't let the batteries get too hot or cold when charging (unsure about temp control while driving). I admit I don't quite know how to phrase the 'right question' :-)
Nope. On a long trip most stops will be 20 minutes at a SC and for a really long leg (or one up a mountain or in really cold or hot temperatures) one might, once in a while, take an hour. The distance between Super Charger stops would be 100-140 miles, usually. Driving from San Francisco to Palm Desert we stopped more than 20 minutes just once. To eat.
Jason Levine is exactly right. A second critical change needed is to eliminate the Berne Convention from the US. That copyright feature forces copyright on everything you jot down. Whether you want copyright or not. Copyright should be, again, something one requests through specific action (such as writing it in the work) rather than being automatic.
IBM is not a good example as IBM has been imploding for years, with layoffs every year. See Robert X Cringely for details.
Forgot to mention. The car instructions say AutoPilot is not to be used where there are crossroads. In the Florida instance in question there were crossroads.
The car instructions say the driver has to have hands on the steering wheel at all times and be prepared to take over driving. At all times.
In addition, the trailer was said to have a completely empty underside. None of the solid sheets installed on some trucks to improve fuel efficiency. So the road under the truck looked clear (sort of)
Plenty of modern gas-engine cars make no noise besides tire noise on normal local roads. Living on a corner with a stop sign I observe that even accelerating from a stop is essentially silent for many modern non-electric vehicles.
When not at home it's really only sensible to use vpn to use the web. You know: to keep our web access private in a public place. So, Netflix does not want us to use what we paid for --- except at home? What?
Tesla owners with Tesla's not-quite-autonomous cruise control really love it. The 75% will feel differently in 5 years, I predict.
Nobody wants injured Eagles. So arm them with submachine guns. What could go wrong?
Had a Mac Air, but replaced with Dell XPS 13 developer edition with Linux (Ubuntu) using the Gnome Flashback Metacity, not the default Unity at login. Yes, Dell sells it with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS installed. Long battery life, light weight, avoid the Apple bugs and misfeatures.
Costs include the transit time. As others have noted, public transit is much slower than driving in most cases. I commuted via rail near San Francisco for years (caltrain) and considered it ok. Not smelly, not too crowded except on a MLB night. Still, useless now to take transit as wife simply is no longer able to walk far enough to make use of the limited times and access.
Rails are great because they own the space. Not competing with cars. Buses are...generally horrible... as they have all the problems of using the same roads as cars plus scheduling issues and waiting-in-the-rain issues.
Once in a while a sign gets overpainted a little by someone: 35 changed to 85. What does the vehicle do then?
4.4% is a LOT more than govt bonds pay. It's not 1985 any more.
I'll believe Bolt when they start shipping to customers. GM has a long history of not delivering what they promised. Will Bolt be like Fiat 500e, loss leader, hence low volume by plan or ??? Going to be interesting to watch.
Violates TOS for many of us. Plus upload speed horrible from Comcast. (and the other posters are mostly right too: this is just a bad idea.)
RyanFenton: the use of various techniques to discredit aspects of science that suggested companies had to change their behavior began in the 1950's. For example, denying that smoking harmed health. Denying that chemicals were poisoning birds. For the details see "Merchants of Doubt" by Oreskes and Conway.
"Natural Effects" is a complete cop-out, since all natural effects involve changes that force climate change. And those forcing effects are measureable (are the deniers pretending the forcing issues unmeasured or unmeasurable?).
Mounting sllghtly off the roof, to the roof, gets decent solar generation and shades the roof in high summer and ... minilmizes the danger
from high winds. Having panels up in the air on one of those
rare 50MPH winds is... scary.
Currently using an inexpensive single-led backyard white light. 6 inch square solar panel. Small battery hidden somewhere inside. Stays astonishingly bright all night illuminating a rose tree (pointing a bit down, not up at the sky). Way more than enough to read by. Something to free much of the world from darkness.
I had a bunch of old home movies converted to CD and unfortunately they are still boring.