wasn't that probably his point? i don't know how much the overhead costs are with steam (maintaining it/bandwidth costs), but if they are small enough, sales would just have to increase a bit more than double when you offer things at half the price to get the same revenue
anyone care to explain why only people from the USA are allowed to participate? in this day and age, what could possibly be the motivation for that? the 10$ they'd have to pay extra to send tha prize a bit further away? i'm wondering on how many original ideas they'll be missing out by excluding so many people...
hmm, fair point, but i just think there's a time and place for things like that. i can very well understand if MS just wants both sides to concede a bit.
yes there shouldn't be anything wrong with openly stating it for all to see and know. but there will be.
yes, microsoft can go trough all the trouble of finding every single person who makes a fuss over it, and ban them, or whatever other punishments they got.
but if you know it's something sensitive, why not just not put it in your profile, and save MS all the wasted time, yourself all the problems, and try and spread the message in places that are appropriate for it?
i agree with you there. but the reasoning in this thread was in the sense of provoking people, and if it is for that reason, i find it very reasonable to ask from people not to mention things like that. xbox live just isn't a good place for doing things like that.
but it could indeed very well be some other problem:)
yeah, she's fighting all those anti-gay laws. and getting into fights with people on xbox-live is the perfect way to do it. why didn't i see that before
i understand your point, and frankly, i don't use xbox live, so i don't know how visible/important the profile is. but imo 1) if you put it in your profile, it's there 24/7 for all to see/know. while casually/accidentally mentioning it in a conversation won't happen that often. certainly not in a gaming context i think, since when chatting i'd usually be discussing game things, not personal things (unless it's with people you know, and the they probably know you, so it isn't a problem either) 2) the weeding out part is true. but how about you only mention it to potential friends? not also the 99.9% of people who you wouldn't get to know better anyway, and by that multiplying the troubles you get by it by 1000? 3) there are plenty of things that can cause trouble with people. i don't believe in any god (or religion or whatever). that doesn't mean i put in every of my profiles that i don't like religions. that doesn't mean i'll look for fights with convinced religious people. and if i were to put it in a profile, and some admin would ask me to remove it since it's causing problems with lots of religious people, i would remove it. it may be true, it shouldn't be offensive, but there's a time and place for stuff like that
i agree with you there, i was commenting in a thread where the course of thought is problems in provoking people with it. and i think that if it provokes people on an online system like xbox live, it's fair to ask people to remove it.
it might not be something bad, or something inappropriate. but trying to keep the peace on a simple gaming platform seems reasonable. it's just not the place for discussions of that kind, and you just won't reach anything by doing it there.
yeah, cause real world and xbox live are exactly the same. that and because being lesbian is outlawed, and she really needs to get the world to know it's okay through xbox live.
yeah, provoking idiots on xbox live will solve all the problems in the world! why didn't we see that before
since i seriously doubt there are people who are severly against straight people, so you're not picking fights with anybody. so why should i doubt you'd get into trouble for that
it's not MS who decides that straight isn't a problem, while gay is. it's society. i just think this is a simple case where both sides are wrong. both the ones getting into a fight with her because she's lesbian, and the lesbian for obviously provoking those people.
it shouldn't, but it will. there will always be intolerant idiots, and what do you hope to prove by trying to get into a fight with them?
even if 99% of the people don't have a problem with it, 1 in 100 is still a lot of people online you're picking a fight with. why not just shut up about it, and not provoke those people?
and who is at fault? the ones causing all the trouble over it? or the one shoving it in their face while they'd rather just not know? imo both are just as wrong
i'd rather stress the target audience. the movie going crowd is by far larger than the gaming crowd i think, so there would be the difference imo
also, honestly, how many games these days are still made for 10+ hours of non repetitive gameplay? even most fps-shooters i read reviews about these days are said to be less than 10 hours to play through...
20-50 hours, most rpgs and adventure games should reach that, and that's about it i'd say
as a belgian, i can assure you that it's very tasty, if you got the proper mayo ^^. ours usually also contains a bit of lemon, and that gives it a nice taste, abroad i oftenonly see plain mayo i wouldn't eat with my fries either:p
i don't know how it is in this case, but most of the times, the problem is that there is no information about the hardware. so even though the open source community would love to code uber awesome megadrivers, they haven't got any documents on how these chipsets work, so they can't write drivers for them
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bloody hell, you beat me to it i was also a bit amazed by the title, until i realised it's only the dutch acronym ^^
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i'd rather guess a slashdot editor
wasn't that probably his point?
i don't know how much the overhead costs are with steam (maintaining it/bandwidth costs), but if they are small enough, sales would just have to increase a bit more than double when you offer things at half the price to get the same revenue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSIWpFPkYrk
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anyone care to explain why only people from the USA are allowed to participate? in this day and age, what could possibly be the motivation for that? the 10$ they'd have to pay extra to send tha prize a bit further away?
i'm wondering on how many original ideas they'll be missing out by excluding so many people...
hmm, fair point, but i just think there's a time and place for things like that. i can very well understand if MS just wants both sides to concede a bit.
yes there shouldn't be anything wrong with openly stating it for all to see and know. but there will be.
yes, microsoft can go trough all the trouble of finding every single person who makes a fuss over it, and ban them, or whatever other punishments they got.
but if you know it's something sensitive, why not just not put it in your profile, and save MS all the wasted time, yourself all the problems, and try and spread the message in places that are appropriate for it?
i agree with you there. but the reasoning in this thread was in the sense of provoking people, and if it is for that reason, i find it very reasonable to ask from people not to mention things like that.
xbox live just isn't a good place for doing things like that.
but it could indeed very well be some other problem :)
yeah, she's fighting all those anti-gay laws. and getting into fights with people on xbox-live is the perfect way to do it.
why didn't i see that before
i understand your point, and frankly, i don't use xbox live, so i don't know how visible/important the profile is.
but imo
1) if you put it in your profile, it's there 24/7 for all to see/know. while casually/accidentally mentioning it in a conversation won't happen that often. certainly not in a gaming context i think, since when chatting i'd usually be discussing game things, not personal things (unless it's with people you know, and the they probably know you, so it isn't a problem either)
2) the weeding out part is true. but how about you only mention it to potential friends? not also the 99.9% of people who you wouldn't get to know better anyway, and by that multiplying the troubles you get by it by 1000?
3) there are plenty of things that can cause trouble with people. i don't believe in any god (or religion or whatever). that doesn't mean i put in every of my profiles that i don't like religions. that doesn't mean i'll look for fights with convinced religious people. and if i were to put it in a profile, and some admin would ask me to remove it since it's causing problems with lots of religious people, i would remove it.
it may be true, it shouldn't be offensive, but there's a time and place for stuff like that
i agree with you there, i was commenting in a thread where the course of thought is problems in provoking people with it. and i think that if it provokes people on an online system like xbox live, it's fair to ask people to remove it.
it might not be something bad, or something inappropriate. but trying to keep the peace on a simple gaming platform seems reasonable. it's just not the place for discussions of that kind, and you just won't reach anything by doing it there.
yeah, cause real world and xbox live are exactly the same.
that and because being lesbian is outlawed, and she really needs to get the world to know it's okay through xbox live.
yeah, provoking idiots on xbox live will solve all the problems in the world! why didn't we see that before
putting it in your profile for all to see just might be...
i doubt in a gaming setting like xbox live the discussion rarely gets to your sexual orientation.
well, let me know when you convinced someone who is against it that being gay is okay while chatting with him/her on a game server.
there is a time/place for such a thing, and xbox live just isn't it.
and youc an make as many bad analogys as you want, it won't make your point any better.
yeah, repression and seeking confrontation will really show them how wrong they are.
you know they're wrong, good for you, they don't, and never will. how about not feeding the trolls and just keeping it fun online?
and somewhere hope that time and/or education will slowly convince them?
since i seriously doubt there are people who are severly against straight people, so you're not picking fights with anybody. so why should i doubt you'd get into trouble for that
it's not MS who decides that straight isn't a problem, while gay is. it's society. i just think this is a simple case where both sides are wrong. both the ones getting into a fight with her because she's lesbian, and the lesbian for obviously provoking those people.
how about you just don't feed the trolls with your sexual orientation they got a problem with, and you'll have no problems?
yes, you shouldn't get into a fight over it. but you know you will. there are always people who are against it.
i find it reasonable to ask of players not to provoke others. even though it might be something they shouldn't be provoked by.
it shouldn't, but it will. there will always be intolerant idiots, and what do you hope to prove by trying to get into a fight with them?
even if 99% of the people don't have a problem with it, 1 in 100 is still a lot of people online you're picking a fight with. why not just shut up about it, and not provoke those people?
and who is at fault? the ones causing all the trouble over it? or the one shoving it in their face while they'd rather just not know? imo both are just as wrong
i'd rather stress the target audience. the movie going crowd is by far larger than the gaming crowd i think, so there would be the difference imo
also, honestly, how many games these days are still made for 10+ hours of non repetitive gameplay? even most fps-shooters i read reviews about these days are said to be less than 10 hours to play through...
20-50 hours, most rpgs and adventure games should reach that, and that's about it i'd say
because the only way to get votes is not being smart/capable/listening to what the people want
but campaining/throwing tons of money at it. and there's only one source for that kind of money, so what do you expect?
why would they stop? it's working, you're watchin those movies in the cinema
Intel intel... :D
how long did you have to wait to be able to use that one?
as a belgian, i can assure you that it's very tasty, if you got the proper mayo ^^. :p
ours usually also contains a bit of lemon, and that gives it a nice taste, abroad i oftenonly see plain mayo i wouldn't eat with my fries either
and there is a demand for cow humans, and cows are sexy?
i don't know how it is in this case, but most of the times, the problem is that there is no information about the hardware. so even though the open source community would love to code uber awesome megadrivers, they haven't got any documents on how these chipsets work, so they can't write drivers for them
bloody hell, you beat me to it
i was also a bit amazed by the title, until i realised it's only the dutch acronym ^^