And that has absolutely nothing to do with trolling, which are attempts at generating anger in others.
First, I thank you for not flaming me for typing "why" instead of "way".
Second, I'd like to add, "Trolling" is a way to share the pain. In other words, when folks say crap to get a rise out of others, I think they want to cause others pain - pain that they're feeling. It's a way of striking back. Which is really sad. I think it's a result of our "PC" climate. We're not allowed to offend anyone, so we all have learned to withhold our feelings and opinions. And as a result, we vent online.
I have examples, but I don't know how to express them online without being moderated down.
Another obvious factor is that, if you insult someone online, it's unlikely you'll face any physical retaliation for it.
I'd like to add: or be fired, yelled a by your wife, etc....
Commenting online is a why to vent anger at at shit you can't normally vent at. I've seen many comment here about how "stupid" their management or users are/is. And I bet, most of the time, folks wouldn't talk like that at work - but they do here. I think being online is a way to deal with aggression. In short, I'd rather have you folks flame me, or whatever, online than shoot me at work.
But this is the NSA we're talking about... Not the Bush administration.
I wish I could remember the show I saw. But the scientist (MIT, PhD scientist) was amazed at the intellect of the NSA folks who came to see him about his research. I can't remember who it was - it was a NOVA episode (but it stuck in my head because of his fear!). And after talking to friends who work with various internet security companies and defense contractors, I have to reiterate their opinion of these guys - they're really sharp. And as much as I like to disparage Government workers, these guys aren't to be trifled with.
And, as I was previewing, I noticed that the parent was moderated "Offtopic".
As an Offtopic note: 2 out of 3 down mods that I meta mod are unfair. Keep that in mind. It's really pissing me off.
I'm in favor of nuclear power - as long as no-one tries to run it at profit.
As opposed to someone who's working in the non-profit sector who will do anything to make his numbers?
Non-profit is just a tax status. Meaning, there's a restriction to what you can do with the profits: there's nothing restricting you from making as much money or as much profit as you want - you can get rich off of a non-profit.
My wife works for a non-profit and there's plenty of meetings where they are encouraged to cut costs. So, sorry, not making "evil" profits won't make the plant any safer. Neither will having it run by some Government bureaucrat. Do you really want the caliber of person that works at the department of motor vehicles running those plants?
Yes they do exactly what they want. Just the same way a politician will make all of their own decisions after getting millions from oil companies and other "pacs" with special interests.
Not if they want to stay in office. Then you have bow down to your financier.
Mozilla starts doing what they want, even if it runs against Google's wishes, you can bet the money spigot will be turned off.
It may just be me but I think that's why they are called "customers"
Sometimes, customers are unreasonable and if they are, they should be treated with respect and the problem explained to them. Yes, they may be incredulous, but if you hold your ground (if they're being unreasonable), treat them with respect, they will come around.
The fact that the parent was moderated down just shows me that the arrogance, contempt, and stupidity in corporate America is alive and well - especially in IT.
It would seem like the storage requirements for storing every single e-mail sent in and out of the White House would be huge.
First, how do yo prove that emails were deleted? And if you can prove it, how do you prove that they weren't deleted maliciously?
Second, I once asked a member of the Bar here in GA (a lawyer) about deleting emails and the legal ramifications. He said that as long as I have a company policy of deleting them after X amount of time, then nobody could claim that I was deleting them for malicious or fraudulent reasons. Because, a lot of folks, when they get sued, will delete all of their emails right before discovery. Then the judge rules something that I can't remember, but basically you, the email deleter, gets into trouble and possibly loses the case. As a smart ass, I said that my policy is to delete them as soon as I get them. That's OK, actually. I just have to live with trying remember what was in the email. Or print them - then that's yet more problems.
The Star Trek franchise has lost all of its appeal to me. Actually, it did a while back. I haven't seen a ST in the theater since the IV one - Voyage Home.
I play a pivotal role in a grand conspiracy to cripple the free software movement from within, by covertly embedding an unnecessary, yet seductively useful, patented technology at the very heart of the linux operating system's second most popular desktop environment.
Umm, who the fuck is this guy and is he for real?!
FTFA: "Lower-income students, those most in need of federal financial aid, would be harmed most under the entertainment industry's proposal."
Middle class too! And, WTF, I understand now that any sort of drug offense, you lose your financial aid, student loans are getting harder and harder to pay, and if you have any sort of bad luck and you're stuck with those loans forever - can't get out of them with bankruptcy!
Why don't our politicians just come out and say "No more financial Aid!"
The meritocracy in America is continually being eroded away by special interests.
FTFA: Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama, Chris Dodd and Joe Biden all oppose granting immunity to the carriers.
Good for them!
Other Democratic candidates, including Hillary Clinton, have not stated a position on immunity for telecom carriers. Republican presidential hopefuls have also been mum on the issue.
You chicken shit sons (and daughter) - of - bitches!
Smaller is nice, but what really needs to be done is to make them cheaper to purchase and operate. That way, even the local small hospitals can, hopefully, afford one. When you're sick and living out in the country, having to drive a hundred miles to the nearest machine can be quite a chore.
Cars in the US are a status symbol as well as a form of transportation. Cars are treated like jewelry! Get a little scratch and folks go crazy!
I agree with you. I was able to take public transport when I lived in a large metro area and I discovered that driving causes me a lot of stress - I HATE IT! One of the things I love about Europe the most is when I visit; I don't have to drive!
Lets face it, Americans just don't care. And why should they? They live comfortable lives, entertained with Britney Spears and Paris Hilton.
That reminded me of the televised speech in 'V for Vendetta'. We here in the US have gotten too complacent with our government and our lives. One day we'll wake up and see that our Republic isn't free anymore because of all of our "wars" and the Liberties we all gave up to be "safe".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TLD3Z6sJWA/the links not working for some reason
There's a company that likes to call here in Metro Atlanta - "Card Service" is their name. It's a recording that tries to get you to transfer your credit card balance to their cards and the recording just says stay on the line and press '3', IIRC, to get a live operator. I can never get a live operator and when I do a *69, the phone company tells me it's unavailable.
I can't find a location on th net for them - at least a company by that name that would issue a card. There is a "Card Services International" that will process them.Anyway, it smells REAL fishy and I can't get information to report them.
There's also the folks who offer "free" services and then they'll sell you stuff when they get to your house. The water testing companies love to do this. Their marketing folks will say your water is unsafe and they'll test it for free. When they get to your house they'll try to sell you a filtration system that doesn't work well for hundreds $$$ You can get one in the home centers much cheaper and their's work. So, there's plenty of folks who are getting around it.
According to the graph in the first link, underweight people have a greater chance than overweight people of dying of lung diseases and coronary heart disease. However, smoking, a major causative factor in both groups of diseases, also suppresses the appetite and causes people who would normally be normal or overweight to become underweight. Thus, underweight people might be more likely to die from lung disease and heart disease, but this may just be because underweight people are more likely to smoke.
Sooo, smoker's appetites are suppressed because of smoking and therefore they're skinnier and therefore they'll die quicker because they're a smoker as apposed to being overweight? [I'm cross-eyed now.]
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First, I thank you for not flaming me for typing "why" instead of "way".
Second, I'd like to add, "Trolling" is a way to share the pain. In other words, when folks say crap to get a rise out of others, I think they want to cause others pain - pain that they're feeling. It's a way of striking back. Which is really sad. I think it's a result of our "PC" climate. We're not allowed to offend anyone, so we all have learned to withhold our feelings and opinions. And as a result, we vent online.
I have examples, but I don't know how to express them online without being moderated down.
He was modd'ed down for no reason. It was NOT "Redundant"!
I'd like to add: or be fired, yelled a by your wife, etc....
Commenting online is a why to vent anger at at shit you can't normally vent at. I've seen many comment here about how "stupid" their management or users are/is. And I bet, most of the time, folks wouldn't talk like that at work - but they do here. I think being online is a way to deal with aggression. In short, I'd rather have you folks flame me, or whatever, online than shoot me at work.
I wish I could remember the show I saw. But the scientist (MIT, PhD scientist) was amazed at the intellect of the NSA folks who came to see him about his research. I can't remember who it was - it was a NOVA episode (but it stuck in my head because of his fear!). And after talking to friends who work with various internet security companies and defense contractors, I have to reiterate their opinion of these guys - they're really sharp. And as much as I like to disparage Government workers, these guys aren't to be trifled with.
And, as I was previewing, I noticed that the parent was moderated "Offtopic".
As an Offtopic note: 2 out of 3 down mods that I meta mod are unfair. Keep that in mind. It's really pissing me off.
Thank you.
I wanted some entertainment during lunch!
Man, Slashdot better hire some Troll editors/comic writers to give us folks some entertainment during lunch!
As opposed to someone who's working in the non-profit sector who will do anything to make his numbers?
Non-profit is just a tax status. Meaning, there's a restriction to what you can do with the profits: there's nothing restricting you from making as much money or as much profit as you want - you can get rich off of a non-profit.
My wife works for a non-profit and there's plenty of meetings where they are encouraged to cut costs. So, sorry, not making "evil" profits won't make the plant any safer. Neither will having it run by some Government bureaucrat. Do you really want the caliber of person that works at the department of motor vehicles running those plants?
Not if they want to stay in office. Then you have bow down to your financier.
Mozilla starts doing what they want, even if it runs against Google's wishes, you can bet the money spigot will be turned off.
For the exception of the "ALWAYS", I agree with you. I have never had the attitude that the customer is ALWAYS unreasonable. Honest.
Sometimes, customers are unreasonable and if they are, they should be treated with respect and the problem explained to them. Yes, they may be incredulous, but if you hold your ground (if they're being unreasonable), treat them with respect, they will come around.
The fact that the parent was moderated down just shows me that the arrogance, contempt, and stupidity in corporate America is alive and well - especially in IT.
First, how do yo prove that emails were deleted? And if you can prove it, how do you prove that they weren't deleted maliciously?
Second, I once asked a member of the Bar here in GA (a lawyer) about deleting emails and the legal ramifications. He said that as long as I have a company policy of deleting them after X amount of time, then nobody could claim that I was deleting them for malicious or fraudulent reasons. Because, a lot of folks, when they get sued, will delete all of their emails right before discovery. Then the judge rules something that I can't remember, but basically you, the email deleter, gets into trouble and possibly loses the case.
As a smart ass, I said that my policy is to delete them as soon as I get them. That's OK, actually. I just have to live with trying remember what was in the email. Or print them - then that's yet more problems.
The Star Trek franchise has lost all of its appeal to me. Actually, it did a while back. I haven't seen a ST in the theater since the IV one - Voyage Home.
I play a pivotal role in a grand conspiracy to cripple the free software movement from within, by covertly embedding an unnecessary, yet seductively useful, patented technology at the very heart of the linux operating system's second most popular desktop environment.
Umm, who the fuck is this guy and is he for real?!
Middle class too! And, WTF, I understand now that any sort of drug offense, you lose your financial aid, student loans are getting harder and harder to pay, and if you have any sort of bad luck and you're stuck with those loans forever - can't get out of them with bankruptcy!
Why don't our politicians just come out and say "No more financial Aid!"
The meritocracy in America is continually being eroded away by special interests.
Good for them!
Other Democratic candidates, including Hillary Clinton, have not stated a position on immunity for telecom carriers. Republican presidential hopefuls have also been mum on the issue.
You chicken shit sons (and daughter) - of - bitches!
Smaller is nice, but what really needs to be done is to make them cheaper to purchase and operate. That way, even the local small hospitals can, hopefully, afford one. When you're sick and living out in the country, having to drive a hundred miles to the nearest machine can be quite a chore.
I agree with you. I was able to take public transport when I lived in a large metro area and I discovered that driving causes me a lot of stress - I HATE IT! One of the things I love about Europe the most is when I visit; I don't have to drive!
You would think that the German people would look back on their own history and say "Never again!"
That reminded me of the televised speech in 'V for Vendetta'. We here in the US have gotten too complacent with our government and our lives. One day we'll wake up and see that our Republic isn't free anymore because of all of our "wars" and the Liberties we all gave up to be "safe". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TLD3Z6sJWA/the links not working for some reason
How can journalists spark a major diplomatic event?
That's what you get when you use violence as a means to your goals.
I can't find a location on th net for them - at least a company by that name that would issue a card. There is a "Card Services International" that will process them.Anyway, it smells REAL fishy and I can't get information to report them.
There's also the folks who offer "free" services and then they'll sell you stuff when they get to your house. The water testing companies love to do this. Their marketing folks will say your water is unsafe and they'll test it for free. When they get to your house they'll try to sell you a filtration system that doesn't work well for hundreds $$$ You can get one in the home centers much cheaper and their's work. So, there's plenty of folks who are getting around it.
Sooo, smoker's appetites are suppressed because of smoking and therefore they're skinnier and therefore they'll die quicker because they're a smoker as apposed to being overweight? [I'm cross-eyed now.]
OK! Let'em choke on all that data! There's no way that they could keep it all straight - and that's assuming there's no errors!
The genie is out of the bottle, let's give them what they want to the 666 power!
"Robot Overlord" jokes are actually on topic!