Well, their main competitor Ubuntu is basically giving away the OS for free. How can RedHat expect to compete with that? RHAT already does compete, sort of, in the desktop space. They have a workstation product. Not sure of sales volume though.
Fedora is a gold mine of information, testing, and development for Red Hat. They would never let it just fade away. Plus, it's a testing ground for RHEL -- despite what RHAT says publically. (this comes from someone who has been on the inside)
Even if RHAT did pull their considerable resources out of the Fedora, community would, or at least, could carry on.
Amen. Just bought a Lenovo T61p with Vista Home. The out-of-box experience was INSANE. Took a good 30mins just to get to a working deskop. Reboots took another 7 minutes from working desktop to working desktop. There was a bunch of pre-loaded rubbish but that was the first to be uninstalled. Even with a relatively clean Vista home install, reboots were still 4-5 minutes.
Vista lasted for about 6 hours before Fedora wsa installed.
The more eyes that are put on Safari, the more bugs/holes that will be exposed. Ultimately, Safari will become a better, some might say decent, browser as a result.
Special treatment from a warranty repair center? He should be thankful to have received a working unit. Most of those types of centers are offshore -- meaning English probably isn't their first language.
Sucks to lose the artwork -- especially the signatures from Bungie folks. Using the Xbox 360 to hold the sigs when the failure rate for older 360s is still too high is begging for a huge pint of FAIL.
Some numbers you should include in that domain controller price -- cost of antivirus software, cost of security incidents and cleanup due to hackers, viruses, trojans, or some dumbass using the DC as a client and surfing www.horsegagpr0n.com, and finally, the cost of downtime due to broken MS patches that break or reset service/application configs.
(I'm not saying OSS doesn't push shady patches -- but because we can look inside our patches and see exactly wtf they do, the shady patches usually get caught in advance)
That is impressive. Thanks for the info about all versions supporting process restarts. I must have mixed up vendor C with Vendor J. Cisco's IOS XR has that feature but the regular Cisco IOS does not.
It is fun watching these two companies go head to head.
JunOS, which sits on a FreeBSD kernel, has had the modular ability since forever now. Certain versions of JunOS allow individual core system processes to be restarted without taking down the router or requiring a reboot. Glad to see Cisco is getting with the program.
"Last time I checked the situation in Iraq has improved substantially. It appears that it's time for you to bark up some other tree."
After almost a trillion dollars and 4000 US deaths, it damn well better have.
What did we get out of it? Gas is more expensive then ever. There are now 25,000+ soliders who are crippled. Country can't even see the top of the hole we buried ourselves into financially.
Imagine what all that money could have done for the space race.
And you complain about social security. Did your parents not accept social security checks when they retired? I bet they did -- which makes them a part of that "ponzi scheme." And when you retire, will you not accept social security checks? After all, you don't want to be associated with a ponzi scheme.
"You can't delete executables or DLLs when the program is running. That's why uninstallation always has to restart the computer. The uninstaller adds the list of files it can't delete to the registry, and Windows takes care of them at the next boot-up."
Wow. That just answered a long-standing question I had about Windows. You rock. If I had mod points, you'd get them all.
1) Yum is a single point of failure for RHEL? Your flagrant abuse of IT vocabulary is a single point of failure for your career. The use, or lack of use, of yum will not break a RHEL server -- thus disproving that yum is a single point of failure.
2) multiple CDS/merging? RHEL5 has a DVD ISO available.
3) Lack of NTFS drivers? Why should Red Hat risk incurring copyright/patent issues? To satisfy your need to read from inferior filesystems? I'm glad they don't.
4) Lengthy release time? That's a *FEATURE*, you moron. It's called stability. Real IT shops don't like upgrading their servers every six months, ala Fedora. Real IT shops with hundreds or thousands of servers need stability. They need time to plan their upgrades. Only gurlie men with 3 servers in a bathroom rack want distros released every month. Also, RHEL is supported for SEVEN FREAKING YEARS after release. That's the result of the stability and "lengthy" release time you bitch about.
5) Horrible RHN v/s yum? You just slandered yum by calling it up2date in drag and now you praise it? Make up your mind.
In closing, enjoy your 3 server shop and your CentOS. Keep suckling off the Red Hat teet. Real companies with real business needs will keep Red Hat and indirectly supporting your pathetic career.
They managed to make the Nigerian government pay twice for an operating system. Better than all the 419ers combined. Kudos to MS. Now, please deliver Vista to those sons of too.
"I expect it's still less than Vista, and will continue to be until it works properly out the box (which hopefully won't be long, it's getting much better, but it still requires quite complicated configuration with certain, not that uncommon, hardware)."
Horse-puckey.
Linux works out of the box. Yours and other people's hardware choices are defected.
No, seriously. Anything bought on iTunes should be ripped to Audio CD anyway for backup purposes. That strips the Fairplay DRM -- and can be re-imported into your music player of choice.
"...hackers only got email addresses despite the fact that the data base the hackers had access to also had birth dates, social security numbers and everything else necessary to steal account holders' identities."
Exactly. Those new account forms ask for a boatload of personal information.
I wonder how many TD accounts are linked to a stock trader's primary checking account? Scary stuff.
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So RHEL sucks because you are cheap? and FC6 is dead. Time to migrate to FC8. Get used to the process because FC9 is almost out the door.
Meanwhile, your RHEL servers will still be supported for another few years.
Fedora is a gold mine of information, testing, and development for Red Hat. They would never let it just fade away. Plus, it's a testing ground for RHEL -- despite what RHAT says publically. (this comes from someone who has been on the inside)
Even if RHAT did pull their considerable resources out of the Fedora, community would, or at least, could carry on.
Amen. Just bought a Lenovo T61p with Vista Home. The out-of-box experience was INSANE. Took a good 30mins just to get to a working deskop. Reboots took another 7 minutes from working desktop to working desktop. There was a bunch of pre-loaded rubbish but that was the first to be uninstalled. Even with a relatively clean Vista home install, reboots were still 4-5 minutes.
Vista lasted for about 6 hours before Fedora wsa installed.
Thank you for the link. There's an rpm available for Fedora Core 8 too. Wow. Just installed.
The more eyes that are put on Safari, the more bugs/holes that will be exposed. Ultimately, Safari will become a better, some might say decent, browser as a result.
Writing a new Godwin's law, are you? See some information you don't like then equate it to child porn and get it banned?
The design is over 50yrs old. Sheesh.
Special treatment from a warranty repair center? He should be thankful to have received a working unit. Most of those types of centers are offshore -- meaning English probably isn't their first language.
Sucks to lose the artwork -- especially the signatures from Bungie folks. Using the Xbox 360 to hold the sigs when the failure rate for older 360s is still too high is begging for a huge pint of FAIL.
PS: FIRST POAST.
That explains a lot.
Be honest, who downloads Prince or Village People songs anyway.
With an open-source app, you can actually look at code and, if you have the skills, fix it.
Try that with something from Microsoft, Adobe, or Symantec.
*claps*
Bravo, sir. Well said. In the future though, please provide a warning before being hysterically funny. Mechanical pencil...
Me and my now soda-covered monitor thank you.
Challenging an anon coward...
Yeah, that'll work.
Some numbers you should include in that domain controller price -- cost of antivirus software, cost of security incidents and cleanup due to hackers, viruses, trojans, or some dumbass using the DC as a client and surfing www.horsegagpr0n.com, and finally, the cost of downtime due to broken MS patches that break or reset service/application configs.
(I'm not saying OSS doesn't push shady patches -- but because we can look inside our patches and see exactly wtf they do, the shady patches usually get caught in advance)
Don't try to divert attention. Nobody was talking about Mozilla.
That is impressive. Thanks for the info about all versions supporting process restarts. I must have mixed up vendor C with Vendor J. Cisco's IOS XR has that feature but the regular Cisco IOS does not.
It is fun watching these two companies go head to head.
JunOS, which sits on a FreeBSD kernel, has had the modular ability since forever now. Certain versions of JunOS allow individual core system processes to be restarted without taking down the router or requiring a reboot. Glad to see Cisco is getting with the program.
"Last time I checked the situation in Iraq has improved substantially. It appears that it's time for you to bark up some other tree."
After almost a trillion dollars and 4000 US deaths, it damn well better have.
What did we get out of it? Gas is more expensive then ever. There are now 25,000+ soliders who are crippled. Country can't even see the top of the hole we buried ourselves into financially.
Imagine what all that money could have done for the space race.
And you complain about social security. Did your parents not accept social security checks when they retired? I bet they did -- which makes them a part of that "ponzi scheme." And when you retire, will you not accept social security checks? After all, you don't want to be associated with a ponzi scheme.
"You can't delete executables or DLLs when the program is running. That's why uninstallation always has to restart the computer. The uninstaller adds the list of files it can't delete to the registry, and Windows takes care of them at the next boot-up."
Wow. That just answered a long-standing question I had about Windows. You rock. If I had mod points, you'd get them all.
Wow. Such nonsense. Let's deal with you:
1) Yum is a single point of failure for RHEL? Your flagrant abuse of IT vocabulary is a single point of failure for your career. The use, or lack of use, of yum will not break a RHEL server -- thus disproving that yum is a single point of failure.
2) multiple CDS/merging? RHEL5 has a DVD ISO available.
3) Lack of NTFS drivers? Why should Red Hat risk incurring copyright/patent issues? To satisfy your need to read from inferior filesystems? I'm glad they don't.
4) Lengthy release time? That's a *FEATURE*, you moron. It's called stability. Real IT shops don't like upgrading their servers every six months, ala Fedora. Real IT shops with hundreds or thousands of servers need stability. They need time to plan their upgrades. Only gurlie men with 3 servers in a bathroom rack want distros released every month. Also, RHEL is supported for SEVEN FREAKING YEARS after release. That's the result of the stability and "lengthy" release time you bitch about.
5) Horrible RHN v/s yum? You just slandered yum by calling it up2date in drag and now you praise it? Make up your mind.
In closing, enjoy your 3 server shop and your CentOS. Keep suckling off the Red Hat teet. Real companies with real business needs will keep Red Hat and indirectly supporting your pathetic career.
They managed to make the Nigerian government pay twice for an operating system. Better than all the 419ers combined. Kudos to MS. Now, please deliver Vista to those sons of too.
"I expect it's still less than Vista, and will continue to be until it works properly out the box (which hopefully won't be long, it's getting much better, but it still requires quite complicated configuration with certain, not that uncommon, hardware)."
Horse-puckey.
Linux works out of the box. Yours and other people's hardware choices are defected.
We understand it -- we just don't care. lol
No, seriously. Anything bought on iTunes should be ripped to Audio CD anyway for backup purposes. That strips the Fairplay DRM -- and can be re-imported into your music player of choice.
AT&T isn't an opt-in service. This garbage is.
"...hackers only got email addresses despite the fact that the data base the hackers had access to also had birth dates, social security numbers and everything else necessary to steal account holders' identities."
Exactly. Those new account forms ask for a boatload of personal information.
I wonder how many TD accounts are linked to a stock trader's primary checking account? Scary stuff.
Good luck with your account.