Other folks have already pointed out the moral relativity of the situation. I'm not going to go into how you expect to find a perfect technology that resolves sticky situations or relieves us of these "I'll take what we know is best for now and later"
Car Analogy time! Do you hold auto makers responsible for vehicle deaths because they didn't engineer them to stop perfectly or avoid accidents, regardless of the driver's skill? Do you not applaud the efforts of those trying to make those same vehicles safer?
You didn't answer the question. By you being careless/clueless enough to become infected, your data is already exposed for anyone who cares to pay. Who would you rather have digging through your data?
And, by your poorly chosen analogy, researchers studying the malware generated traffic of your data back to the operators are "robbing the store".
Just because they're in a store, doesn't mean they're stealing. Hell, they may be trying to stock up on TP. I know I would.
If you have "malware" on your computer, your private data is already being exposed. It could just as well be a bot net operator whose combing through your data. Who'd you rather have digging through your infected computer?
Besides, the guys used possibly ill-gotten information that was true to convince the upstream provider to shut down the ISP. The experts didn't run into the data center, pulling plugs in a rage...though that might make a neat comic book. In truth, you should blame the upstream providers. Seriously, this isn't Governments running around meting out justice. This is companies listening to private organizations.
Many states that have income taxes will allow you to deduct(to an amount) the contributions. California, on the other hand, sucks and does not allow it. The earnings, though, are always tax-free if used within the requirements of the plan. Why else would you invest in the plan?
The federal tax, however, is unavoidable on contributions. Capital gains taxes will not apply as long as it is used for education purposes. The neat thing I read about it that it will also cover off-campus living, up-to the room&board amount the campus reports to the Federal Gov't for Federal Aid.
Anyways, I never claimed to be a accountant but thanks for pointing that out. Very glaring contradiction.
I realized I cut out the somber paragraph , hoping many would think the first was sarcasm. Anyways, here it is:
"This, of course, is rubbish. The masses need higher education to enhance their standing, both in their country, and the world. America can't compete with world via outright numbers of degrees issued, but we can still succeed in the average person education. That's the number that really counts. The smarter worker is a generally a more efficient/productive/effective worker, yes?"
What are you talking about? This is the 529 plan in Cali that is exempt from State and federal income taxes.
The money you put in, is of course, taxed, but the idea is that those earnings you make from it are tax-free. It also varies state-to-state, so research first.
The US can get ahead in the world economy by getting LESS education for it's populace. That way, we'll slowly start getting our manufacturing jobs back because India and China won't be able to compete. I mean, people over there can translate business logic into those magical bits faster and cheaper than here, right?
Personally, I didn't find out how much I liked Computer Science till Sophomore year of College. The theory and beauty behind how different sort algorithms was the turning point I think. Without College, I'd have settled on some part-time tech work and full-time retail employee. College has it's purposes and the masses still need higher education, whether they want it or not.
You want to not get a fuck-ton of college debt? Don't go to a school for prestige or a wife. Go to your local CC for a year then go to a local Uni to get your degree. Otherwise, study your ass in high school and get there on scholarship.
You want it to be easier for your kids? Get a 529 plan started TODAY. Contributions to it are be state and federal-tax free. You can get the money back out at regular tax rates if they don't go to school or get scholarships. I'm surprised that wasn't in the review. Just because you are getting the shaft doesn't mean your kids have to as well.
What? Are saying that it might be possible that a guy who voted for Obama isn't that much different than another guy who voted for McCain?!?! I'm shocked I dare say. This is us vs. them...
It's actually sad how the even the more tempered left/right will buy into the idea that your opponent has some fatal flaw or deficiency that keeps them from ever being better. I mean, heartland American is gonna be different than your LA or NYC guy, but are we really all that different in what our core needs/wants are?
You see, that's the issue they tried to solve. Rather than have to get the needed proof and belief that "yes, they commited 1,842 crimes via one act" and try them each on so many x amounts of criminal charges, you can throw the book at them with one charge. No need to prove what constitutes things like single counts of vandalism and destruction of property when you've got so many other things to prove.
Makes your evidence, your trial and everything else easier. They've just done a shitty job deciding how to proceed from there. The optimist says they are learning....the realists says they are just sucking and will continue to do so. It's new territory in a new age and they aren't keeping up. Not that I'd know how to anyway. This blogger case shows just how it goes.
Even places like Turkey restrict detention without charge or trial to 7 days - why is my country different?
Because, probably like my country, they need that much time to work through the bureaucratic gridlock that is figuring out how to proceed with such ambiguous charges. I mean, you have a murderer, you know you gotta produce evidence, time, place, etc. You know what you need to charge him and keep him in your hands.
With this ambiguous new crime of "terrorism", it's too broad to define what you need to "nail'em" and get your desired outcome. You got a lot of circumstantial evidence probably, not a lot of previous trials, judgments, etc that you can use to compare with your case. I mean, you can't go back 20 years and find out a lot of cases that deal with trying someone as a terrorist, especially when the laws themselves are so new.
In the face of making a stupid mistake or honestly not knowing what to do, they'd rather keep folks under their thumb than risk letting them go. Unethical and possibly illegal as it may be to hold folks, that's probably the only alternative they see. Hold them till the can figure out what the heck to do.
That's my take on it. I have no clue what the best thing to do is, and would not like to be in the shoes of the folks who decide this stuff. Who knows if that's it, or if they just pulled a number out their asses.
Actually, that's only because California uses those. Some states don't require the printout. They should really be able to lock the print tray up during voting so you can't even touch it. Read my Sig if you want more info on the Diebold/Premier Machines.
Indeed. The scantron machines have been in service for voting for well over 20 years now. High "squish" factors in filling in the circle(The machines I worked on would read a single dot in the circle, but kick back if it overvoted always) are great. The real problem that is coming is from the digital-scanning ones. See the sig if you care.
Off topic? C'mon! He's responding to a post within the context! He's not talking about how proper coding methods are vital or other things that have no bearing with this discussion thread.
Great primary research and very entertaining. Reminds me of the p-p-p-p-power book scandal. Gotta wonder if he had a slow day(s) with his business to do this.
Interesting. I know some routers can do TKIP+AES, using the same WPA key. Would the network still shut down? I guess it's heavily dependent on the hardware.
If I remember reading right, a few years ago, TKIP client encryption was always able to be broken. The catch was that you had to capture the packets with the handshake between the access point and the client. This could be done by breaking the signal and capturing the ensuing reconnect. AES fixed this problem.
I think this may have been if you wanted to actually decrypt the data between the two though and that meant having the WPA key, which these guys have broken. Before this, as the article states, the only thing was a dictionary attack. So, I wonder if you combine the two, can you intercept data and successfully look at it.
It's a sad day at Slashdot when more people would comment on a typo than offer criticism about a book. So let's fix this. It explains some of the newer things 3.5 brings but does it deal with their actual implementation with business logic or otherwise? From what I've gathered, LINQ sounds like craziness in terms of being able to keep SQL maintained.
It looks neat and I'm sure it works well...but smartphones have GPS and 3G/data plans built in. Most have some developer support good to go and better cameras. Ultra-portables have a better keyboard/mouse, more ports to connect crap and full web browsers. Hell, some allow you to just stick in SIM card, rolling all 3 into 1.
The battery life is ok but not great, seeing how long it takes to charge. It honestly fills no niche or even covers everything. Solid Meh.
The significant other is quitting grad school as soon as she gets her Master's in Neruoscience(she's in the PhD/Master Program). She can't stand the constant pressure of publishing nor the need constantly justify grant writing. She's not the best researcher, but the pressure is enough to drive her to not caring anymore. She'll get her consolation prize and get on with her life.
Maybe she's just not cut out for academia, though it's losing out on the great potential she has.
Honestly, I would love to see some of the older code from Blizzard. If not for practical purposes(Rock N Roll Racing XTREME!), it'll let universities use it some classes. I personally know my old CS professor would have loved some really proven game coding, and I can certainly think he would have loved the fact that "Oh, yeah, this was part of Blizz's source code."
There has nothing to with MS, rather how, in my limited experience, coders would use the registry as the preferred interface. While I guess I could have been more clear is qualifying what I thought about Microsoft, this has nothing to do with them, but rather bad design. I think the OP had the same idea, though he clearly shows no love for MS.
If you get sad from internet post, maybe this isn't the place for you.
It made me think a little, though you are entirely correct in saying this is not investigative journalism.
What I'm more interested in reading is the raw emails produced from both the register and the "given" computer and responses from the wikipedia and Weiss on said emails. I don't want Bryne doing my thinking for me.
I mean, they did a little as referenced here
As recently as last week, Weiss told us he's never even edited Wikipedia. But emails shared with Byrne and The Register show that Weiss has in fact edited the encyclopedia's article on naked shorting. And they indicate he's behind an infamous Wikipedia account known as "Mantanmoreland," an account that - with the backing of the site's brain trust - ruled the articles on naked shorting, Patrick Byrne, and Overstock from January 2006 to March 2008.
But this article needs the nitty gritty details before I'll buy it. It raises the evidence, but does nothing to confirm it. Kinda like saying if the lights are on, someone MUST be home, discounting that someone forgot to turn them off. Gah. I suck at analogies without a car in them....
After reformatting, one of the first things I do is go to AVG's website and download some virus protection. I google, and, thanks to a shitty mouse or my stupidity, accidentally click on another legitimate website. Adware, crapware, and more all taint the once pure machine via IE. All because AVG returned a couple of sites that are no where near legitimate.
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Other folks have already pointed out the moral relativity of the situation. I'm not going to go into how you expect to find a perfect technology that resolves sticky situations or relieves us of these "I'll take what we know is best for now and later"
Car Analogy time! Do you hold auto makers responsible for vehicle deaths because they didn't engineer them to stop perfectly or avoid accidents, regardless of the driver's skill? Do you not applaud the efforts of those trying to make those same vehicles safer?
You didn't answer the question. By you being careless/clueless enough to become infected, your data is already exposed for anyone who cares to pay. Who would you rather have digging through your data?
And, by your poorly chosen analogy, researchers studying the malware generated traffic of your data back to the operators are "robbing the store".
Just because they're in a store, doesn't mean they're stealing. Hell, they may be trying to stock up on TP. I know I would.
Anyways, you're new here. Welcome to /.
If you have "malware" on your computer, your private data is already being exposed. It could just as well be a bot net operator whose combing through your data. Who'd you rather have digging through your infected computer?
Besides, the guys used possibly ill-gotten information that was true to convince the upstream provider to shut down the ISP. The experts didn't run into the data center, pulling plugs in a rage...though that might make a neat comic book. In truth, you should blame the upstream providers. Seriously, this isn't Governments running around meting out justice. This is companies listening to private organizations.
You're right.
Many states that have income taxes will allow you to deduct(to an amount) the contributions. California, on the other hand, sucks and does not allow it. The earnings, though, are always tax-free if used within the requirements of the plan. Why else would you invest in the plan?
The federal tax, however, is unavoidable on contributions. Capital gains taxes will not apply as long as it is used for education purposes. The neat thing I read about it that it will also cover off-campus living, up-to the room&board amount the campus reports to the Federal Gov't for Federal Aid.
Anyways, I never claimed to be a accountant but thanks for pointing that out. Very glaring contradiction.
I realized I cut out the somber paragraph , hoping many would think the first was sarcasm. Anyways, here it is:
"This, of course, is rubbish. The masses need higher education to enhance their standing, both in their country, and the world. America can't compete with world via outright numbers of degrees issued, but we can still succeed in the average person education. That's the number that really counts. The smarter worker is a generally a more efficient/productive/effective worker, yes?"
What are you talking about? This is the 529 plan in Cali that is exempt from State and federal income taxes.
The money you put in, is of course, taxed, but the idea is that those earnings you make from it are tax-free. It also varies state-to-state, so research first.
The US can get ahead in the world economy by getting LESS education for it's populace. That way, we'll slowly start getting our manufacturing jobs back because India and China won't be able to compete. I mean, people over there can translate business logic into those magical bits faster and cheaper than here, right?
Personally, I didn't find out how much I liked Computer Science till Sophomore year of College. The theory and beauty behind how different sort algorithms was the turning point I think. Without College, I'd have settled on some part-time tech work and full-time retail employee. College has it's purposes and the masses still need higher education, whether they want it or not.
You want to not get a fuck-ton of college debt? Don't go to a school for prestige or a wife. Go to your local CC for a year then go to a local Uni to get your degree. Otherwise, study your ass in high school and get there on scholarship.
You want it to be easier for your kids? Get a 529 plan started TODAY. Contributions to it are be state and federal-tax free. You can get the money back out at regular tax rates if they don't go to school or get scholarships. I'm surprised that wasn't in the review. Just because you are getting the shaft doesn't mean your kids have to as well.
What? Are saying that it might be possible that a guy who voted for Obama isn't that much different than another guy who voted for McCain?!?! I'm shocked I dare say. This is us vs. them...
It's actually sad how the even the more tempered left/right will buy into the idea that your opponent has some fatal flaw or deficiency that keeps them from ever being better. I mean, heartland American is gonna be different than your LA or NYC guy, but are we really all that different in what our core needs/wants are?
You see, that's the issue they tried to solve. Rather than have to get the needed proof and belief that "yes, they commited 1,842 crimes via one act" and try them each on so many x amounts of criminal charges, you can throw the book at them with one charge. No need to prove what constitutes things like single counts of vandalism and destruction of property when you've got so many other things to prove.
Makes your evidence, your trial and everything else easier. They've just done a shitty job deciding how to proceed from there. The optimist says they are learning....the realists says they are just sucking and will continue to do so. It's new territory in a new age and they aren't keeping up. Not that I'd know how to anyway. This blogger case shows just how it goes.
Yikes. Confusing Nouns! I meant that whatever country the poster lived in. Not necces. Turkey. Sorry about that.
Even places like Turkey restrict detention without charge or trial to 7 days - why is my country different?
Because, probably like my country, they need that much time to work through the bureaucratic gridlock that is figuring out how to proceed with such ambiguous charges. I mean, you have a murderer, you know you gotta produce evidence, time, place, etc. You know what you need to charge him and keep him in your hands.
With this ambiguous new crime of "terrorism", it's too broad to define what you need to "nail'em" and get your desired outcome. You got a lot of circumstantial evidence probably, not a lot of previous trials, judgments, etc that you can use to compare with your case. I mean, you can't go back 20 years and find out a lot of cases that deal with trying someone as a terrorist, especially when the laws themselves are so new.
In the face of making a stupid mistake or honestly not knowing what to do, they'd rather keep folks under their thumb than risk letting them go. Unethical and possibly illegal as it may be to hold folks, that's probably the only alternative they see. Hold them till the can figure out what the heck to do.
That's my take on it. I have no clue what the best thing to do is, and would not like to be in the shoes of the folks who decide this stuff. Who knows if that's it, or if they just pulled a number out their asses.
Actually, that's only because California uses those. Some states don't require the printout. They should really be able to lock the print tray up during voting so you can't even touch it. Read my Sig if you want more info on the Diebold/Premier Machines.
Indeed. The scantron machines have been in service for voting for well over 20 years now. High "squish" factors in filling in the circle(The machines I worked on would read a single dot in the circle, but kick back if it overvoted always) are great. The real problem that is coming is from the digital-scanning ones. See the sig if you care.
Off topic? C'mon! He's responding to a post within the context! He's not talking about how proper coding methods are vital or other things that have no bearing with this discussion thread.
Great primary research and very entertaining. Reminds me of the p-p-p-p-power book scandal. Gotta wonder if he had a slow day(s) with his business to do this.
Interesting. I know some routers can do TKIP+AES, using the same WPA key. Would the network still shut down? I guess it's heavily dependent on the hardware.
If I remember reading right, a few years ago, TKIP client encryption was always able to be broken. The catch was that you had to capture the packets with the handshake between the access point and the client. This could be done by breaking the signal and capturing the ensuing reconnect. AES fixed this problem.
I think this may have been if you wanted to actually decrypt the data between the two though and that meant having the WPA key, which these guys have broken. Before this, as the article states, the only thing was a dictionary attack. So, I wonder if you combine the two, can you intercept data and successfully look at it.
It's a sad day at Slashdot when more people would comment on a typo than offer criticism about a book. So let's fix this.
It explains some of the newer things 3.5 brings but does it deal with their actual implementation with business logic or otherwise? From what I've gathered, LINQ sounds like craziness in terms of being able to keep SQL maintained.
Roll with that.
here's the actually spec and release data.
It looks neat and I'm sure it works well...but smartphones have GPS and 3G/data plans built in. Most have some developer support good to go and better cameras. Ultra-portables have a better keyboard/mouse, more ports to connect crap and full web browsers. Hell, some allow you to just stick in SIM card, rolling all 3 into 1.
The battery life is ok but not great, seeing how long it takes to charge. It honestly fills no niche or even covers everything. Solid Meh.
How true that is.
The significant other is quitting grad school as soon as she gets her Master's in Neruoscience(she's in the PhD/Master Program). She can't stand the constant pressure of publishing nor the need constantly justify grant writing. She's not the best researcher, but the pressure is enough to drive her to not caring anymore. She'll get her consolation prize and get on with her life.
Maybe she's just not cut out for academia, though it's losing out on the great potential she has.
Honestly, I would love to see some of the older code from Blizzard. If not for practical purposes(Rock N Roll Racing XTREME!), it'll let universities use it some classes. I personally know my old CS professor would have loved some really proven game coding, and I can certainly think he would have loved the fact that "Oh, yeah, this was part of Blizz's source code."
Oh sorry. Didn't see you there. You must be new.
There has nothing to with MS, rather how, in my limited experience, coders would use the registry as the preferred interface. While I guess I could have been more clear is qualifying what I thought about Microsoft, this has nothing to do with them, but rather bad design. I think the OP had the same idea, though he clearly shows no love for MS.
If you get sad from internet post, maybe this isn't the place for you.
Please do! As a young programmer starting out, I keep an eye on Daily WTF for what NOT to do. Well, most of the time anyways.
The fact they use the registry as the interface makes my eye twitch.
It made me think a little, though you are entirely correct in saying this is not investigative journalism.
What I'm more interested in reading is the raw emails produced from both the register and the "given" computer and responses from the wikipedia and Weiss on said emails. I don't want Bryne doing my thinking for me.
I mean, they did a little as referenced here
But this article needs the nitty gritty details before I'll buy it. It raises the evidence, but does nothing to confirm it. Kinda like saying if the lights are on, someone MUST be home, discounting that someone forgot to turn them off. Gah. I suck at analogies without a car in them....
True Story:
After reformatting, one of the first things I do is go to AVG's website and download some virus protection. I google, and, thanks to a shitty mouse or my stupidity, accidentally click on another legitimate website. Adware, crapware, and more all taint the once pure machine via IE. All because AVG returned a couple of sites that are no where near legitimate.
No warning would have helped in that case.