oh come off it. Everyone either gets laughed at or thinks they're being laughed at. The kid got his fifteen minutes of fame. now, he's trying to extend it and get a payday. Boo on him. If he was half a man he would just shut up an be happy. 20 years from now he can pull out the video and show his kids, "see kids that's embarrassing. what happened to you is not embarrassment."
So big deal if he gets laughed at in high school. who didnt? dropping out is dumb. tough it out. don't let a society tell you you should be coddled cause someone hurt your feelings. grow up. In a year he wouldn't even know the people that are laughing at him now. If you can name one person that made fun of you, or bullied you in high school 5 years after graduation you need to seek a shrink's help cause you don't know how to let go. trust me, the bully doesn't remember you.
I understand a vast majority of/.ers are on the "picked on and made fun of" rung of the high school hierarchy ladder but take my word for it, from one geek to another, you'll get over it. Oh, and yes, someday you will get laid. I promise. Not by me, but someone will like you.
this citizen of yours is doing what is considered a crime in our country, and we want you to hand him over to us for prosecution
er, the extradition would never happen if both countries didn't agree that the offense was in fact a crime.
also, just because a crime is done in a virtual space doesn't mean you can't be hunted down and tried in real space. if geography doesn't matter on the internet why should it matter in the real world?
hey genius, did you notice they also refrained from using phrases such as "party of the first part". they were answering generically worded questions with generically worded answers. But, when the question cited U.S. Code they all pulled out their big ol' U.S. Code book and cited the stuff back like a lawyer.
I have to think that had our questions been even better laid out (they were good questions mind you) that their answers would have been equally unequivocal and would have met your high standards.
2. They do work for me and the other citizens of the United States. I would like to think that if a bunch of lawyers from DOJ are taking a few hours to answer some geek's questions that they at the very least do a proper job of it.
These were government employees, thus poor. you don't go to work at the DOJ if you expect to make the big bucks. You go there cause a. you're just out of college or b. you really do care.
these folks struck me as the "we care" branch of the DOJ.
actually I believe one of them is out for repairs currently. I believe it's the Declaration. Historical note, the copy that Americans reveres as "the document" is actually a copy made sometime around September (a history geek can correct me)
I did a quick search and no one seems to have mentioned the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia, PA. I went there around the age of twelve. So, that was many years ago but I certainly remember it as being a terribly geeky place for young and old alike. (I should write brochures)
Not sure how you get your geek on but there's also the Baltimore Aquarium that I understand to be quite the place. When you're done there hitch on down to Hampton Roads, Virginia (look for Norfolk) and hit the Mariner's Museum (Ironclads have to be historically geeky at least), NASA Langley, Virginia Marine Science Museum, etc... Come to think of it Hampton Roads is a pretty geeky place.
id coined the phrase "when it's done". The head of id is a bloody engineer. And, I'm in no fear of id dying. Good lord man you must have confused this article with an article about *BSD or something.
Nothing against IBM or India or outsourcing. It's the way its always been done. America gets a huge leap on an industry and then we send the jobs elsewhere. It's what happens. The problem I see is that we don't know what we're supposed to do next.
If your textile/manufacturing job was lost in the past there was always that new computer course at the community college.
What do we do now? Flower arranging? What's the next big thing supposed to be? And don't say "we don't know yet". We knew that IT was the next big thing decades ago. The IT jobs we're losing now aren't being replaced by a "next big thing" that I know of. So, instead of all of us whining about losing our jobs how about pointing out which skills we should be working on. Bio-tech?
I'm with you. I really am. My first distro was 5.1 as well. I also had very little luck. But, what I'm saying is the cost benefit to RedHat is not sufficient. You and I and most of Slashdot are in the minority. For their bottom line this is the best they can do. When we (the linus community) finally do have a point, click not trouble distro of Linux to offer then we try again.
And, for those of you that are disheartened, recall where MS was after only ten years of business and compare that to the success of Linux after only ten years. I believe we are ahead by that measure.
First, the Linux Desktop doesn't exist. It's a myth.
Second, all that advertisement comes at a price.
Third, anyone that is going to be coming to Red Hat for a server solution isn't going to base their decision on the fact that they saw a box copy at Wal-Mart.
Fourth, there are thousands of magazines that do quite well without having a single newsstand presence.
Fifth, the very fact that a year of telephone support is supposed to be a big buying plus is insane. The average consumer isn't going to jump and buy based on that. That would most likely scare them off. You might as well put a warning on the box saying, "This software is so incredibly difficult for the average person to use that we include a year of free tech support after which you'll still probably need help and buy three of four books on Linux at exorbitant prices if you're still using the software after a month."
1. anyone that doesn't have access to a distro of linux is entirely unlikely to buy one off the shelf. More likely they know an über-geek already that got them into Linux or they bought it at Barnes and Noble with a huge book with 5 different flavors, what have you.
2. This strikes me as being a genius idea. Putting those boxes on the shelves is in no way cheap. Do you ever see Red Hat flying off the shelves? Only when its time to replace the box with the next version.
3. Red Hat makes their money in providing service and support contracts to big companies. Not the little guy.
This is a money thing. removing the shelf space issue is good business sense. It might tick you off but it will make investors happy.
The thing is though, Linux has been around for ten years and well known in Tech circles for at least that long. I'm not some über-hacker and I've known of Linux since the 1.0 days. If there is a Tech firm out there that doesn't know Linux I can't imagine that MS calling Linux threat number 2 will make companies jump to develop for Linux.
If you want software for a company all you can use to cause it's development on Linux is demand with money. "I have a need for your software but we're on Linux now. You'd get my money if you ported to Linux otherwise I'll use some other product." That gets their attention.
MS didn't tell the public. MS told/. and maybe Wall Street. The public still only knows that "Linux is some computer thing that geeks really like." I swear that's a direct quote from a non-geek, public friend of mine.
The thing that gets me is that I've never gotten a reply. I've written Clinton, Gore, Sen. Clinton when she was first lady and Pres. Bush. I've never gotten a reply from Bush. No, I did not send the above message to Bush. I wanted to but I'm betting his "darn good intelligence" wouldn't understand anyway.
we could all just buy up the shares and become the stockholders that usually fuck things up but instead we'd can the morons that have so completely ruined what once had the potential to be a great network.
Scifi channel is so utterly out of touch with their audience.
not a rebuttal, more an addendum. This is the problem through all the OSs. Intuitiveness. I've used all of the big 3 (MS Windows, Linux, OS X).
Linux? Not intuitive.
MS Windows? Kinda.
OS X? I have never seen a more intuitive OS.
There's a reason why Linux is so damn stable. Otherwise we'd all have to go around with crib sheets to remember how to get sound working when we re-install.
to all the japanese out there before you flame the above, think about how many times you've made fun of american pronunciation of japanese words. You know its funny.
Would checking the usual suspects on the net before work, BBC on radio in car, then listening to NPR at work, then on the way home more NPR, then home for more web before bed qualify me as being disordered then?
NetNewsWire was made for info-junkies. Cold hard data is crack.
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oh come off it. Everyone either gets laughed at or thinks they're being laughed at. The kid got his fifteen minutes of fame. now, he's trying to extend it and get a payday. Boo on him. If he was half a man he would just shut up an be happy. 20 years from now he can pull out the video and show his kids, "see kids that's embarrassing. what happened to you is not embarrassment."
/.ers are on the "picked on and made fun of" rung of the high school hierarchy ladder but take my word for it, from one geek to another, you'll get over it. Oh, and yes, someday you will get laid. I promise. Not by me, but someone will like you.
So big deal if he gets laughed at in high school. who didnt? dropping out is dumb. tough it out. don't let a society tell you you should be coddled cause someone hurt your feelings. grow up. In a year he wouldn't even know the people that are laughing at him now. If you can name one person that made fun of you, or bullied you in high school 5 years after graduation you need to seek a shrink's help cause you don't know how to let go. trust me, the bully doesn't remember you.
I understand a vast majority of
er, the extradition would never happen if both countries didn't agree that the offense was in fact a crime.
also, just because a crime is done in a virtual space doesn't mean you can't be hunted down and tried in real space. if geography doesn't matter on the internet why should it matter in the real world?
hey genius, did you notice they also refrained from using phrases such as "party of the first part". they were answering generically worded questions with generically worded answers. But, when the question cited U.S. Code they all pulled out their big ol' U.S. Code book and cited the stuff back like a lawyer.
I have to think that had our questions been even better laid out (they were good questions mind you) that their answers would have been equally unequivocal and would have met your high standards.
1. it's a clever turn of phrase
2. They do work for me and the other citizens of the United States. I would like to think that if a bunch of lawyers from DOJ are taking a few hours to answer some geek's questions that they at the very least do a proper job of it.
high paid lawyers are black hearted.
These were government employees, thus poor. you don't go to work at the DOJ if you expect to make the big bucks. You go there cause a. you're just out of college or b. you really do care.
these folks struck me as the "we care" branch of the DOJ.
actually I believe one of them is out for repairs currently. I believe it's the Declaration. Historical note, the copy that Americans reveres as "the document" is actually a copy made sometime around September (a history geek can correct me)
I did a quick search and no one seems to have mentioned the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia, PA. I went there around the age of twelve. So, that was many years ago but I certainly remember it as being a terribly geeky place for young and old alike. (I should write brochures)
Not sure how you get your geek on but there's also the Baltimore Aquarium that I understand to be quite the place. When you're done there hitch on down to Hampton Roads, Virginia (look for Norfolk) and hit the Mariner's Museum (Ironclads have to be historically geeky at least), NASA Langley, Virginia Marine Science Museum, etc... Come to think of it Hampton Roads is a pretty geeky place.
kidding right?
id coined the phrase "when it's done". The head of id is a bloody engineer. And, I'm in no fear of id dying. Good lord man you must have confused this article with an article about *BSD or something.
Nothing against IBM or India or outsourcing. It's the way its always been done. America gets a huge leap on an industry and then we send the jobs elsewhere. It's what happens. The problem I see is that we don't know what we're supposed to do next.
If your textile/manufacturing job was lost in the past there was always that new computer course at the community college.
What do we do now? Flower arranging? What's the next big thing supposed to be? And don't say "we don't know yet". We knew that IT was the next big thing decades ago. The IT jobs we're losing now aren't being replaced by a "next big thing" that I know of. So, instead of all of us whining about losing our jobs how about pointing out which skills we should be working on. Bio-tech?
and brought about by Apple.
-Apple Fan Boy
if the french on occasion invented something everyone uses they wouldn't have to worry about coming up with words after the fact.
kidding.
I'm with you. I really am. My first distro was 5.1 as well. I also had very little luck. But, what I'm saying is the cost benefit to RedHat is not sufficient. You and I and most of Slashdot are in the minority. For their bottom line this is the best they can do. When we (the linus community) finally do have a point, click not trouble distro of Linux to offer then we try again.
And, for those of you that are disheartened, recall where MS was after only ten years of business and compare that to the success of Linux after only ten years. I believe we are ahead by that measure.
First, the Linux Desktop doesn't exist. It's a myth.
Second, all that advertisement comes at a price.
Third, anyone that is going to be coming to Red Hat for a server solution isn't going to base their decision on the fact that they saw a box copy at Wal-Mart.
Fourth, there are thousands of magazines that do quite well without having a single newsstand presence.
Fifth, the very fact that a year of telephone support is supposed to be a big buying plus is insane. The average consumer isn't going to jump and buy based on that. That would most likely scare them off. You might as well put a warning on the box saying, "This software is so incredibly difficult for the average person to use that we include a year of free tech support after which you'll still probably need help and buy three of four books on Linux at exorbitant prices if you're still using the software after a month."
a few comments.
1. anyone that doesn't have access to a distro of linux is entirely unlikely to buy one off the shelf. More likely they know an über-geek already that got them into Linux or they bought it at Barnes and Noble with a huge book with 5 different flavors, what have you.
2. This strikes me as being a genius idea. Putting those boxes on the shelves is in no way cheap. Do you ever see Red Hat flying off the shelves? Only when its time to replace the box with the next version.
3. Red Hat makes their money in providing service and support contracts to big companies. Not the little guy.
This is a money thing. removing the shelf space issue is good business sense. It might tick you off but it will make investors happy.
The thing is though, Linux has been around for ten years and well known in Tech circles for at least that long. I'm not some über-hacker and I've known of Linux since the 1.0 days. If there is a Tech firm out there that doesn't know Linux I can't imagine that MS calling Linux threat number 2 will make companies jump to develop for Linux.
If you want software for a company all you can use to cause it's development on Linux is demand with money. "I have a need for your software but we're on Linux now. You'd get my money if you ported to Linux otherwise I'll use some other product." That gets their attention.
MS didn't tell the public. MS told /. and maybe Wall Street. The public still only knows that "Linux is some computer thing that geeks really like." I swear that's a direct quote from a non-geek, public friend of mine.
you also seem to be overlooking that the X-prize contest has only been in full swing for a short time. Their funds are limited. their teams are small.
NASA has a nation behind it, unlimited funding and has been doing it for decades.
give it a little time. Space engineering is not computer engineering.
Dear Mr. President,
You, Sir, are a 'tard.
-Citizen
The thing that gets me is that I've never gotten a reply. I've written Clinton, Gore, Sen. Clinton when she was first lady and Pres. Bush. I've never gotten a reply from Bush. No, I did not send the above message to Bush. I wanted to but I'm betting his "darn good intelligence" wouldn't understand anyway.
one of the most ancient.
try it. fuckin' farmer. The inflection is important though. Try different variations. Nothing cuts to the quick like being called a "fuckin' farmer".
we could all just buy up the shares and become the stockholders that usually fuck things up but instead we'd can the morons that have so completely ruined what once had the potential to be a great network.
Scifi channel is so utterly out of touch with their audience.
that married people live longer.
So, you have a choice. Live brilliantly and die sooner or Live married and die older.
not a rebuttal, more an addendum. This is the problem through all the OSs. Intuitiveness. I've used all of the big 3 (MS Windows, Linux, OS X).
Linux? Not intuitive.
MS Windows? Kinda.
OS X? I have never seen a more intuitive OS.
There's a reason why Linux is so damn stable. Otherwise we'd all have to go around with crib sheets to remember how to get sound working when we re-install.
to all the japanese out there before you flame the above, think about how many times you've made fun of american pronunciation of japanese words. You know its funny.
not only do I load Slashdot regularly, I check the moderation and replies to my comments constantly cause the e-mail alert from /. isn't quick enough.
Would checking the usual suspects on the net before work, BBC on radio in car, then listening to NPR at work, then on the way home more NPR, then home for more web before bed qualify me as being disordered then?
NetNewsWire was made for info-junkies. Cold hard data is crack.