Statistically, the person is much more likely to never be involved in any sort of tragedy with the weapon.
So, what you're saying is that statistically, well-regulated militias slaughtering school children isn't really a problem for you. Noted.
Not only do you seem to need a class in statistics, now you are conflating my response as to whether or not I care about children--classic troll behavior. Please go back under the bridge from which you came.
, I was simply referencing the utility of having a firearm which involves the love of a child, the sort of thing would not be possible if the grabbers had their way and rounded them all up
Just so we're clear, you are statistically more likely to use that gun of yours to kill a member of your family or yourself than you are to protect your 5 year-old child from a bear.
And it would seem that people who want to take guns away are statistically more likely to use statistics in a manner that doesn't reflect reality. Statistically, the person is much more likely to never be involved in any sort of tragedy with the weapon.
Spot on. This is nothing but a hack piece for the rest of the Slashdotters and all the other empirically challenged to drool over. Move along, nothing to see here.
I have a great job for all these people: they get free healthcare, free dental, housing and will even get promoted the first few times based on time served. Who knew the military was so good? As for the working conditions, though, at least these guys have a roof over their heads.
"There are sharp partisan divisions in support for the program. Seventy-two percent of Republicans approve and 22% disapprove. Among Democrats, just 20% approve while 76% disapprove. Independents disapprove by a 51% to 42% margin."
I don't understand why anyone would mod this comment up--it pretty much embodies exactly why Slashdot has become nothing more than a site for shills and other political hacks. It is firm and righteous in its moral and intellectual superiority and assumes one would naturally choose one of the article's percentiles. Sorry, not so much. Give me a larger sample size, like 500,000 years, and explain every rise or fall in the temperature.
I had a similar experience with Vonage when I cancelled: they offered me the same service for $10/month; I was paying around $35, much greater than the ~$15 when I first signed up. I purchased Ooma and am very happy with the $3.67 I pay every month for local 911.
A recorded public statement is just as valid as what he said in front of a judge. In his first statement, he lied. By your logic, only statements given in front of a judge are valid--this is patently false.
Shame was not advocated, it was shown to be effective by the link I posted. Shame is a very good motivator in certain societies; one of the search results talks about just how effective it is in Japan, for example. You also see shame used by judges, on occasion, throughout the US: the convicted standing on a street corner wearing a sign that says "I am an/a XYZ..." Assuming my advocacy of shame as a motivator by me sharing a link is incorrect.
The president did not tell the truth about the affair: "Now, I have to go back to work on my State of the Union speech. And I worked on it until pretty late last night. But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people. Thank you!"
Perhaps posting some relevant stats would be useful here; generalities, blatant accusations without proof, and incorrect facts serve little purpose except to confirm current parroted memes.
What are you, Catholic? We need to control people through guilt and shame? Really? That's a US view that's not seen elsewhere. And, having been to places where being on the doll/benefit isn't looked down on the way it still is in the US, the US has the worse system and still more "shame" to it. Yes, kids in school get picked on for having discount lunches. I've seen them beat up for it. And you want to make life harder on them because you feel there's insufficient "shame".
Shame has been shown to be one of the biggest motivators to shape behavior and it is much more powerful in the rest of the world, especially outside of the West. Scroll down to see about 30 results, there are plenty of papers and articles here.
Doesn't work for corporate executives. They show shame and guilt when ordered by their lawyers, and yet offend at a rate greater than any minority slums (they just have legal representation to get the charged dismissed/reduced)..
Isn't the 1% a pretty small and biased sample size?
Apparently you missed the part in your high school US Government class where a branch of government *does* have the power to shut down all of government.
The ACA was passed in as legitimate democratic act as the current budget has not been passed in a legitimate democratic act. In fact, I would argue the latter much more so.
The president's legacy is now ruined: few will remember the Speaker's name, the majority whip or any other representative or senator. History will only show that the government was shut down during this presidency. Legacy is a large part of a president's second term.
Your analogy is as tasteless as it is misinformed.
By the way, the police don't happen in a vacuum. The same ultra moralistic, hyper vigilant, religious rite (spelling intended) American subcultures that have put express lanes on their death rows and don't even blink twice at the fact that they've done a piss pour job of sorting the innocent from the guilty (the common heard refrain is let Gawd sort them out), leads to police that shoot first and worry about your human rights maybe later? I'm not saying that a New York officer who decides to break a broom handle off in some poor innocent Haitian's rectum isn't an atrocity deserving of some version of human life sacrifice. I am saying that there seem to be entire regions of the U.S. where public attitudes point to seriously questionable ethics and commonly result in atrocious behavior as common course, particularly by authorities.
Wow, great generalizations like this certainly need more mod points, especially when they are "insightful."
Apple is not required to spend that money any more than you or I are required to spend our savings after all our debts are paid and toys purchased. Apple and any other company with money in the bank is not required to stimulate the economy--that would be the government's job (to provide a friendly business environment).
Use it or lose it? Wow, why don't we just move in and take all savings accounts everywhere...that will solve the world's ills.
Apple has been holding a lot of cash for years--not much of an example of anything.
Yes, and if the US, or any other nation, were to lower thier rates to 11%, Apple, (and everybody else!) would set up shop here. Even provide some incentives to help out the move and paperwork. A slice of that debt-leavening $$ would certainly be a boon for the economy!
The governments are in competition for tax revenue as much as businesses are in competition for customers.
There are a lot of CRS reports that are not available on the government's website any longer--a common occurrence; a quick Google shows that this is all over the web regardless. The NYT is becoming more and more known for its stretching of the facts to fit thier agenda. This is a great example!
TFA, 1st Para: "The Congressional Research Service has withdrawn an economic report that found no correlation between top tax rates and economic growth, a central tenet of conservative economic theory, after Senate Republicans raised concerns about the paper’s findings and wording."
What the CRS Report says: "This report attempts to clarify whether or not there is an association between the tax rates of the highest income taxpayers and economic growth...There is not conclusive evidence, however, to substantiate a clear relationship between the 65-year steady reduction in the top tax rates and economic growth. Analysis of such data suggests the reduction in the top tax rates have had little association with saving, investment, or productivity growth."
TFA, 5th Para: "Republicans did not say whether they had asked the research service, a nonpartisan arm of the Library of Congress, to take the report out of circulation, but they were clear that they protested its tone and findings." == Contradicts their first paragraph.
So we have a report, based on the variables that the authors of this report chose, that says that tax rates are not well correlated with economic growth. One of thousands.
Zimmerman, and yourself, put yourselves in situations where you may have a confrontation with people--this is the reality of a neighborhood watch. He did not break the law by carrying a weapon and had done so previously while on the watch, a point that reinforces his position. Whether or not you agree is irrelevant.
This is not a homicide. "Homicide" is a legal term that indicates that another person was illegally killed by another. This has yet to be determined, just as you state.
There was a complete investigation and it was determined that Zimmerman was in accordance with the law. He was only brought in after the press and politicians got ahold of the case. Where are you reading that a full investigation was not completed? I am curious to see your sources.
Any investigation will have one person saying something and that is bounced off the other person, if either chooses to speak. Unfortunately, the victim is deceased. As it stands, much more than words are being put in Zimmerman's mouth by the press that he ever put in Martin's mouth, to include flat out lies, manipulated pictures and creative editing.
If you strive for justice/fairness, defend the inadequacies on both sides, not just one.
Your facts seem to be a bit skewed (possibly to show bias?): - The police knew that they had a shooting victim, not a homicide (that is determined in a court of law). - How do you know he changed his story?
Where are you getting all this information? From what I have read, the only person who changed Zimmerman's story is the media.
Zimmerman had been on previous watches with a gun. He did not try to apprehend any others in the neighborhood previously and called the police. What makes you think that Zimmerman's behavior changed with this incident?
How is Zimmerman putting words into Martin's mouth? The only people that I see doing that is the press.
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So, what you're saying is that statistically, well-regulated militias slaughtering school children isn't really a problem for you. Noted.
Not only do you seem to need a class in statistics, now you are conflating my response as to whether or not I care about children--classic troll behavior. Please go back under the bridge from which you came.
Just so we're clear, you are statistically more likely to use that gun of yours to kill a member of your family or yourself than you are to protect your 5 year-old child from a bear.
And it would seem that people who want to take guns away are statistically more likely to use statistics in a manner that doesn't reflect reality. Statistically, the person is much more likely to never be involved in any sort of tragedy with the weapon.
Spot on. This is nothing but a hack piece for the rest of the Slashdotters and all the other empirically challenged to drool over. Move along, nothing to see here.
Damn, I missed those riots! Can you please remind me where they were?
This post here makes the point of "Spreading Ignorance" brilliantly. Well done, sir!
I have a great job for all these people: they get free healthcare, free dental, housing and will even get promoted the first few times based on time served. Who knew the military was so good? As for the working conditions, though, at least these guys have a roof over their heads.
Any time someone responds to a study with the general statement ....
I knew a guy once who agreed completely with you. I do too.
One of the best comments I have read on this site in a long time.
Then buy a first/business class ticket.
From a 2006 Gallup poll:
"There are sharp partisan divisions in support for the program. Seventy-two percent of Republicans approve and 22% disapprove. Among Democrats, just 20% approve while 76% disapprove. Independents disapprove by a 51% to 42% margin."
I don't understand why anyone would mod this comment up--it pretty much embodies exactly why Slashdot has become nothing more than a site for shills and other political hacks. It is firm and righteous in its moral and intellectual superiority and assumes one would naturally choose one of the article's percentiles. Sorry, not so much. Give me a larger sample size, like 500,000 years, and explain every rise or fall in the temperature.
I had a similar experience with Vonage when I cancelled: they offered me the same service for $10/month; I was paying around $35, much greater than the ~$15 when I first signed up. I purchased Ooma and am very happy with the $3.67 I pay every month for local 911.
A recorded public statement is just as valid as what he said in front of a judge. In his first statement, he lied. By your logic, only statements given in front of a judge are valid--this is patently false.
Shame was not advocated, it was shown to be effective by the link I posted. Shame is a very good motivator in certain societies; one of the search results talks about just how effective it is in Japan, for example. You also see shame used by judges, on occasion, throughout the US: the convicted standing on a street corner wearing a sign that says "I am an/a XYZ..." Assuming my advocacy of shame as a motivator by me sharing a link is incorrect.
The president did not tell the truth about the affair: "Now, I have to go back to work on my State of the Union speech. And I worked on it until pretty late last night. But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people. Thank you!"
Perhaps posting some relevant stats would be useful here; generalities, blatant accusations without proof, and incorrect facts serve little purpose except to confirm current parroted memes.
What are you, Catholic? We need to control people through guilt and shame? Really? That's a US view that's not seen elsewhere. And, having been to places where being on the doll/benefit isn't looked down on the way it still is in the US, the US has the worse system and still more "shame" to it. Yes, kids in school get picked on for having discount lunches. I've seen them beat up for it. And you want to make life harder on them because you feel there's insufficient "shame".
Shame has been shown to be one of the biggest motivators to shape behavior and it is much more powerful in the rest of the world, especially outside of the West. Scroll down to see about 30 results, there are plenty of papers and articles here.
Doesn't work for corporate executives. They show shame and guilt when ordered by their lawyers, and yet offend at a rate greater than any minority slums (they just have legal representation to get the charged dismissed/reduced)..
Isn't the 1% a pretty small and biased sample size?
Come live here in Pakistan for a little bit. Shit, go live in Europe for a bit. I am not talking visiting, I am talking living.
Come back to the US.
Make decision on what is the least evil you are dealing with.
Perspective is a beautiful thing, especially when all you describe are first world issues.
All those shipping routes need no protection, right? And disaster relief, well, lets just do away with that as well.
Apparently you missed the part in your high school US Government class where a branch of government *does* have the power to shut down all of government.
The ACA was passed in as legitimate democratic act as the current budget has not been passed in a legitimate democratic act. In fact, I would argue the latter much more so.
The president's legacy is now ruined: few will remember the Speaker's name, the majority whip or any other representative or senator. History will only show that the government was shut down during this presidency. Legacy is a large part of a president's second term.
Your analogy is as tasteless as it is misinformed.
Wow, that has to be one of the best plot lines EVER for a movie!
By the way, the police don't happen in a vacuum. The same ultra moralistic, hyper vigilant, religious rite (spelling intended) American subcultures that have put express lanes on their death rows and don't even blink twice at the fact that they've done a piss pour job of sorting the innocent from the guilty (the common heard refrain is let Gawd sort them out), leads to police that shoot first and worry about your human rights maybe later? I'm not saying that a New York officer who decides to break a broom handle off in some poor innocent Haitian's rectum isn't an atrocity deserving of some version of human life sacrifice. I am saying that there seem to be entire regions of the U.S. where public attitudes point to seriously questionable ethics and commonly result in atrocious behavior as common course, particularly by authorities.
Wow, great generalizations like this certainly need more mod points, especially when they are "insightful."
Apple is not required to spend that money any more than you or I are required to spend our savings after all our debts are paid and toys purchased. Apple and any other company with money in the bank is not required to stimulate the economy--that would be the government's job (to provide a friendly business environment).
Use it or lose it? Wow, why don't we just move in and take all savings accounts everywhere...that will solve the world's ills.
Apple has been holding a lot of cash for years--not much of an example of anything.
Yes, and if the US, or any other nation, were to lower thier rates to 11%, Apple, (and everybody else!) would set up shop here. Even provide some incentives to help out the move and paperwork. A slice of that debt-leavening $$ would certainly be a boon for the economy!
The governments are in competition for tax revenue as much as businesses are in competition for customers.
There are a lot of CRS reports that are not available on the government's website any longer--a common occurrence; a quick Google shows that this is all over the web regardless. The NYT is becoming more and more known for its stretching of the facts to fit thier agenda. This is a great example!
TFA, 1st Para: "The Congressional Research Service has withdrawn an economic report that found no correlation between top tax rates and economic growth, a central tenet of conservative economic theory, after Senate Republicans raised concerns about the paper’s findings and wording."
What the CRS Report says: "This report attempts to clarify whether or not there is an association between the tax rates of the highest income taxpayers and economic growth...There is not conclusive evidence, however, to substantiate a clear relationship between the 65-year steady reduction in the top tax rates and economic growth. Analysis of such data suggests the reduction in the top tax rates have had little association with saving, investment, or productivity growth."
TFA, 5th Para: "Republicans did not say whether they had asked the research service, a nonpartisan arm of the Library of Congress, to take the report out of circulation, but they were clear that they protested its tone and findings." == Contradicts their first paragraph.
So we have a report, based on the variables that the authors of this report chose, that says that tax rates are not well correlated with economic growth. One of thousands.
Zimmerman, and yourself, put yourselves in situations where you may have a confrontation with people--this is the reality of a neighborhood watch. He did not break the law by carrying a weapon and had done so previously while on the watch, a point that reinforces his position. Whether or not you agree is irrelevant.
This is not a homicide. "Homicide" is a legal term that indicates that another person was illegally killed by another. This has yet to be determined, just as you state.
There was a complete investigation and it was determined that Zimmerman was in accordance with the law. He was only brought in after the press and politicians got ahold of the case. Where are you reading that a full investigation was not completed? I am curious to see your sources.
Any investigation will have one person saying something and that is bounced off the other person, if either chooses to speak. Unfortunately, the victim is deceased. As it stands, much more than words are being put in Zimmerman's mouth by the press that he ever put in Martin's mouth, to include flat out lies, manipulated pictures and creative editing.
If you strive for justice/fairness, defend the inadequacies on both sides, not just one.
Here is another case, just happened: http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/19859545/2012/10/18/neighbors-altercation-ends-with-one-shot-and-killed
How much traction do you think this will get in the MSM?
Your facts seem to be a bit skewed (possibly to show bias?):
- The police knew that they had a shooting victim, not a homicide (that is determined in a court of law).
- How do you know he changed his story?
Where are you getting all this information? From what I have read, the only person who changed Zimmerman's story is the media.
Zimmerman had been on previous watches with a gun. He did not try to apprehend any others in the neighborhood previously and called the police. What makes you think that Zimmerman's behavior changed with this incident?
How is Zimmerman putting words into Martin's mouth? The only people that I see doing that is the press.