i have read slashdot every day almost for the past year. i know whats going on. you say theres all this shit they they did after e3 or whatever thats just awful and the devil's work. its just a console you dont like! thats all it comes down to! it has games you dont like!
hey, dont buy it!
thats what i do when i dont like something.
as far as i can tell your reply comes down to "they did all this other stuff but i cant be bothered mentioning it and were not all bashing them, oh btw your ignorant."
well yes i know not everyone is, and mabye you arent, but my post wasnt directed at you.
and you fail to see all that all the things sony has done amount to a console with poor design choices, some broken promises and PR lies. Oh no! they promised a game and now its not coming out! They promised a feature and it didnt end up happening! That happens with nearly every technology product. sure its more than most, but like i keep saying, nearly every company does it, and if you dont like a product dont buy it. sony isnt forcing you to upgrade from a ps2 to a ps3.
and i didnt call anyone a fanboy. im not really gonna bother saying much more until you come with more than just "you're ignorant".
oh and, sillyness? 33% PERCENT OF UNITS ARE DEFECTIVE.
and yes the xbox is pretty good i think, although im not a fan of generic fps's. i was talking more about microsoft in general.
of course they tried to justify their stupid decisions, that what big companies *do*. then when they get it right you critisize them for "flip-flopping" and lying. what company doesnt lie on a constant basis?
It feels like i keep saying this over and over again. Sony isnt that bad. Lets list their crimes: (SCE)
1. They made a console you dont like.....
I hardly see how this is worthy of all the bashing and crap they get on slashdot. Im not a fanboy but i can see customer attitude is starting to affect console makers and having a large impact on sales. I want more people buying ps3's so i can get some goddman games. i dont want it to turn into the dreamcast of this generation, minus the the good games. Im not going to start arguing pro ps3 but you cnat deny its a great piece of hardware, its not a piece of crap.
So why is sony bashing getting so popular? oh no, they made a ps3. Its sounds old, but i cant even list the amount of things microsoft has done in the past year that are far worse than that. Why arent we out bashing them, boycotting their products and givign them a hard time, i mean they pretty much MAKE people buy their crap, and it IS crap. i know some of us do.
Nintendo makes what i belive to be an overpriced stupid console with retarded desgin, but i dont troll every topic on nintendo or video games in general with stupid comments about mistakes they made.
Anyway i just dotn see why you feel the need to bash them so much when theres so many companies out there that are far worse. they made the ps3, made some design mistakes, and had a ceo who said some stupid things.
Does that even compare to the windows saga, the way its designed to irreverisbly permeate our lives, and Steve Ballmer?
of course thats true, but i dont think anyone realises just how horrifically bad they are. im not an audiophile either. i bought a pair of sehnheisser earphones for AU$100 (like 86 us, lol) and theyve lasted 3 years and sound like im at home listening to my home theatre, the bass is phenomenal. iv tried other cheapo earbuds for $15, and they sound a million times better than the apple ones. its not just a matter of being cheap, its a matter of them being among the worst ever made, not to mention they constantly break. Im 100% certain that anyone without hearing impairment can tell theres a large difference in quality between apple earbuds and a decent pair of $20 ones. I used to work in an apple store and sold a pair of those sehnheiser earhpones to nearly every single person i got to try them on that bought and ipod.
People always have the apple vs high end audio argument, and fail to realise that average priced consumer gear is light years ahead of apple in terms of audio. they make good, if overpriced, products, but if i spend $500 on a portable audio player i want it to sound pretty bloody decent. i didnt buy it to look at it.
The cost of the earbuds is pretty much as close to zero as you can get. theyve got to be down there with the worst quality earhpones ever made.
i always wondered why a device thats marketed as a the best protable audio player you can get provides cutomers with an absolutely awful listening experience. i know from working in an apple store most people even think the quality of apple earphones is ranges from good to fantastic so they dont even consider buying alternative ones.
Archos players have the best audio quality i;v found, testing with sehnheiser earphones.
It wouldnt have anything to do with gaming. it was probably more along the lines of an unrelated medical condition.
So many people spend a great deal of time in interweb cafes, especially in china, i find it odd that more deaths arent reported. statistically i would imagine there should be all sorts of deaths while in internets cafes for all sorts of random reasons.
and the government run chinese media does kinda have a war on the internet with usage skyrocketing, the masses get scared rather well by subtle hints here and there
this is 2007. theres only 3 kinds of people in the world, Terrorists i.e. A-rabs, or sand-niggers, Communists i.e. Chinese, or rice-niggers, and THE FEW, THE PROUD, THE FREE i.e. Americans, or white people and regular niggers.
I always loved the term "sand-nigger", i mean, can you pack any more ignorance into two words?
The report said that about 100 other Web surfers "left the cafe in fear after witnessing the man's death."'"
Screw that I wanna see the people that stayed! I wonder how many people didnt even notice lol. I wonder how many Kara raids got a tell "Holy shit some guy just died next to me LOL"...but, you know, in chinese
or the raid of which he was a part, flaming him for not being committed enough to finish the raid.
I wonder who was the first in the cafe to shard his epixx
i forgot to add, my friend that complained about lack of sex that does drugs on a regular basis has extremely strict christian parents. he didnt have internet access until he was 18 and was forced to attend church well into his teens.
Keep logs of all activity, and check them for any activity involving anything you personally deem to be undesirable. The first child to view pornography is to be locked in their room with other children and beaten. The next child is to be shot. The next is to be put to work in slavery until starvation etc...
It worked quite well for one guy i know, cant think of his name.
Because seriously, the human race lives for one purpose, procreation. This is a stronger drive than even survival. And look at what people have been willing to do to survive throughout history. How do you propose we stop people from the one urge they exist to have?
Perhaps you should be asking why you want to stop it at all?
every scientific study ever done has shown children with access to pornography have had no adverse effects from it. small children exhibit disinterest, older children exhibit mild curiosity and teenagers will embrace it. If they get the wrong ideas about sex/relationships that becaus of a lack of sex education.
you claim to know the answers because you are a parent yourself, you people. but you readily admit you saw pornography as a teenager yourself! does this not mean that your urge to stop porn could be a result of psychological harm from viewing pornography? your position is illogical and indefensible.
and being a parent does not give you any more philosphical or psychological authority on the topic than any other slashdot nerd. your opinions and annecdotal insight are not scientific fact. especially since you dont have any, you havent let them see it yet. you cannot claim the effects it will any more than i, a childless single person can, because you have not children that had be harmed by pornography. in case you didnt notice most people are idiots, and they grew up learning from parents just like you.
i would personally much rather have my children voluntarily reading slashdot than perezhilton.
also heres an interesting thought. lets assume people reading slashdot are fairly intelligent folk with technical knowledge. therefore they have had access to pornography, hate speech, goatse, tubgirl and everything else on the internet from the youngest age. They read technology and science news, are politically active and tend to fairly morally balanced. If the stereotype is to be believed they RARELY have sex.
most people i know without this technical knowledge, who have never seen the likes of goatse, (i'm 20), spend their days talking fashion, celebrities and getting drunk. Their favorite sites are myspace and celebrity gossip sites. My friend complained to me the other day that he hasnt had sex in nearly a week. He certainly fits into this crowd. he has no idea the things i have seen. others do drugs on a regular basis. i know a couple that do and almsot never use the internet, and never have.
i think you see what im getting at here. unless you can provide soem evidence for your position, your position should be reconsidered.
in closing, can i please have some responses from parents with children or the people themselves WHO HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY PORNOGRPAHY, GOATSE TYPE THINGS, OR OTHER SUCH 'HARMFUL' MATERIAL?
ok iv noticed this trick works well for increasing post rating: 'il probably get moded flamebait but...' man youd make the worst boss... It sounds like your a bean counter type who immediatly sees the lack of 'productivity' in any new idea. A bit of humor, some new ideas and some novelty go a long way in a workplace, and do a lot more for morale and productivity than robot-like efficiency ever could.
Im sorry but this just pisses me off. Like the above poster pointed out, apple charges close to $200 AUD for the same thing!
Sony: $100 US for 20gb more space
Apple $100+ US (not sure the exact amount) for 20gb more and black instead of white. which entails close to 0 manufacturing cost. actually its probably cheaper because white is harder to make than black.
When sony does it, its theft! how dare they charge such exhorbitant prices!
When apple does it, its a "design choice" you idiots! your paying for superior(?) design. i.e. black.
I dislike sony too. But i dislike apple more. Sony is like Kim Jong Il. They treat you liek shit and veil it with a thin facade of politeness.
Apple is like the US government. Theyve convinced the people theyre king shit, even tho theyre at least as bad as sony.
i suppose then rednecks are on the same level as mac fanboys.
(b) that students are being thought only how to pass exams (this is the view held by several teacher friends of mine)
I went to high school in australia at a well respected high school and the teachers made no secret of this. At the beginning of grade 10, the year we have our frist major government controlled test, on the first day in each subject they literally explained that we have the test at the end of the year and we
will be doing everything we can to get the highest marks possible.
before every exam or test we were actually penalized if we did not study previous year's exam papers to see how they were designed, since there was a good chance most of the questions were exactly the same.
the board of education even produces pretend exam papers for schools, im assuming they cost money too. (They call these papers "specimens". I certainly think someone needs a better education.)
In "lesser" subjects like religous education, health, etc. often the teacher gave us exactly the same peper from last year. literally photocopied. It was therefore expected you would receive 90%+. If you didnt there was cause for concern.
When i pointed out time and again that these teaching methods were clearly bullshit, taught nothing, and that the testing methods had been scientifically proven to be ineffective, i was either told in so many words to stop asking questions and do as your told, or the (slightly) better teachers would say well thats the way it is so youl just have ot get over it. just get over the fact im literally wasting years of my life "learning".
Even though this sounds like a rant, all im doing is recounting the facts of my high school education. This was at a highly respected private school that costs somewhere on the order of $15,000 AUD a year. im fairly confident i could have gotten an equal education for free.
oh and heres another good one, i did a grade ten assignment on (if im not mistaken) one of the main (then?) current theories on the beggining of the universe. When i got to the part where the universe quantum tunneled into exitence from nothing, i was promptly stopped and given a fail, because "nothing can happen for no reason or come from nothing." said my science teacher. when i tried to explain how that was the whole point, he articualtely disproved the theory with "No thats wrong." back to the drawing board, all you physicists. Also i was admonished for trying to do an assignment on something supposedly so advanced, and not on photosynthesis or how a hummingbird's wings work. silly me for attempting to further my education. Actually as i recall nearly all of year 10 was about photosynthesis for some inexplicable reason, and yet i still couldnt tell you in slightest how it works. im pretty sure reading the wikipedia article could give me a much more efficient education.
I have more stories too, like how an assignment i did which didnt end up wokring out i used to demonstrate how subtley flawed methodology can produce ludicrous results was marked as a fail because the results were wrong, but i think you get the point, and if i made any mistakes in this post, dont blame me blame my education.
Due to this flawed system of education despite my great interest in physics, language, biology and computers, i now work for apple selling simplified computers to complete idiots.
And if this doesnt shake my bad karma 0 default post score, nothing will. iv already tried memes for gods sake!
i never understood why for a site thats news for nerds most people seen to be so adamantly against this new technology. Every article i see on hd is filled with people making the same comments about its only a bit better etc etc, the things joe consumer would say. Doesnt the fact that were nerds mean we want to upgrade? I know i want the best, even if it is slightly better, because i love technology. I just bought a second high end gpu. Sure i was getting 80fps in most games before but thats not the point. For nerds most people here seem to hold a similar approach to hd as my mother. I got a ps3 imported before release and the first time i watched casino royale i was amazed. It was genuinely exciting and the picture was outstanding, far bigger difference between vhs and dvd. Is it just hate for anything sony/microsoft/movie studios does that drives this? Its really disheartening to see nerds reject this clearly improved technology because were the early adopters and if we dont push new tech who will? We could still be here taking about how cassettes are an unneeded upgrade on records
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i have read slashdot every day almost for the past year. i know whats going on. you say theres all this shit they they did after e3 or whatever thats just awful and the devil's work. its just a console you dont like! thats all it comes down to! it has games you dont like!
hey, dont buy it!
thats what i do when i dont like something.
as far as i can tell your reply comes down to "they did all this other stuff but i cant be bothered mentioning it and were not all bashing them, oh btw your ignorant."
well yes i know not everyone is, and mabye you arent, but my post wasnt directed at you.
and you fail to see all that all the things sony has done amount to a console with poor design choices, some broken promises and PR lies. Oh no! they promised a game and now its not coming out! They promised a feature and it didnt end up happening! That happens with nearly every technology product. sure its more than most, but like i keep saying, nearly every company does it, and if you dont like a product dont buy it. sony isnt forcing you to upgrade from a ps2 to a ps3.
and i didnt call anyone a fanboy. im not really gonna bother saying much more until you come with more than just "you're ignorant".
oh and, sillyness? 33% PERCENT OF UNITS ARE DEFECTIVE.
and yes the xbox is pretty good i think, although im not a fan of generic fps's. i was talking more about microsoft in general.
Wow, you only know one ps3 buyer who returned it?
I bought a ps3. I still have it.
Oh wait, that was supposed to be funny. Well, better luck next time.
You wont let sony win.
....
of course they tried to justify their stupid decisions, that what big companies *do*. then when they get it right you critisize them for "flip-flopping" and lying. what company doesnt lie on a constant basis?
It feels like i keep saying this over and over again. Sony isnt that bad. Lets list their crimes: (SCE)
1. They made a console you dont like.
I hardly see how this is worthy of all the bashing and crap they get on slashdot. Im not a fanboy but i can see customer attitude is starting to affect console makers and having a large impact on sales. I want more people buying ps3's so i can get some goddman games. i dont want it to turn into the dreamcast of this generation, minus the the good games. Im not going to start arguing pro ps3 but you cnat deny its a great piece of hardware, its not a piece of crap.
So why is sony bashing getting so popular? oh no, they made a ps3. Its sounds old, but i cant even list the amount of things microsoft has done in the past year that are far worse than that. Why arent we out bashing them, boycotting their products and givign them a hard time, i mean they pretty much MAKE people buy their crap, and it IS crap. i know some of us do.
Nintendo makes what i belive to be an overpriced stupid console with retarded desgin, but i dont troll every topic on nintendo or video games in general with stupid comments about mistakes they made.
Anyway i just dotn see why you feel the need to bash them so much when theres so many companies out there that are far worse. they made the ps3, made some design mistakes, and had a ceo who said some stupid things.
Does that even compare to the windows saga, the way its designed to irreverisbly permeate our lives, and Steve Ballmer?
I believe the correct title is "the iraq"
Perhaps if you were to help south africa and the iraq and the asian countries youd be able to build a better future for your education.
i misread your comment, i thought you said someone handed a 12 year old 9 billion dollars. lol.
Details???
the stock just dropped 30%
of course thats true, but i dont think anyone realises just how horrifically bad they are. im not an audiophile either. i bought a pair of sehnheisser earphones for AU$100 (like 86 us, lol) and theyve lasted 3 years and sound like im at home listening to my home theatre, the bass is phenomenal. iv tried other cheapo earbuds for $15, and they sound a million times better than the apple ones. its not just a matter of being cheap, its a matter of them being among the worst ever made, not to mention they constantly break. Im 100% certain that anyone without hearing impairment can tell theres a large difference in quality between apple earbuds and a decent pair of $20 ones. I used to work in an apple store and sold a pair of those sehnheiser earhpones to nearly every single person i got to try them on that bought and ipod.
People always have the apple vs high end audio argument, and fail to realise that average priced consumer gear is light years ahead of apple in terms of audio. they make good, if overpriced, products, but if i spend $500 on a portable audio player i want it to sound pretty bloody decent. i didnt buy it to look at it.
because no one in america has an illigal firearm.
The cost of the earbuds is pretty much as close to zero as you can get. theyve got to be down there with the worst quality earhpones ever made.
i always wondered why a device thats marketed as a the best protable audio player you can get provides cutomers with an absolutely awful listening experience. i know from working in an apple store most people even think the quality of apple earphones is ranges from good to fantastic so they dont even consider buying alternative ones.
Archos players have the best audio quality i;v found, testing with sehnheiser earphones.
It wouldnt have anything to do with gaming. it was probably more along the lines of an unrelated medical condition.
So many people spend a great deal of time in interweb cafes, especially in china, i find it odd that more deaths arent reported. statistically i would imagine there should be all sorts of deaths while in internets cafes for all sorts of random reasons.
and the government run chinese media does kinda have a war on the internet with usage skyrocketing, the masses get scared rather well by subtle hints here and there
damnit, that was suppsoed to say, "i always loved the term "sand niggers", can you pack any more ignorance into two words?"
lol.
I know I know, flamebait etc..
this is 2007. theres only 3 kinds of people in the world, Terrorists i.e. A-rabs, or sand-niggers, Communists i.e. Chinese, or rice-niggers, and THE FEW, THE PROUD, THE FREE i.e. Americans, or white people and regular niggers.
I always loved the term "sand-nigger", i mean, can you pack any more ignorance into two words?
Screw that I wanna see the people that stayed! I wonder how many people didnt even notice lol. I wonder how many Kara raids got a tell "Holy shit some guy just died next to me LOL"
or the raid of which he was a part, flaming him for not being committed enough to finish the raid.
I wonder who was the first in the cafe to shard his epixx
etc. etc.
i forgot to add, my friend that complained about lack of sex that does drugs on a regular basis has extremely strict christian parents. he didnt have internet access until he was 18 and was forced to attend church well into his teens.
So then lets apply a social solution.
Keep logs of all activity, and check them for any activity involving anything you personally deem to be undesirable. The first child to view pornography is to be locked in their room with other children and beaten. The next child is to be shot. The next is to be put to work in slavery until starvation etc...
It worked quite well for one guy i know, cant think of his name.
Because seriously, the human race lives for one purpose, procreation. This is a stronger drive than even survival. And look at what people have been willing to do to survive throughout history. How do you propose we stop people from the one urge they exist to have?
Perhaps you should be asking why you want to stop it at all?
every scientific study ever done has shown children with access to pornography have had no adverse effects from it. small children exhibit disinterest, older children exhibit mild curiosity and teenagers will embrace it. If they get the wrong ideas about sex/relationships that becaus of a lack of sex education.
you claim to know the answers because you are a parent yourself, you people. but you readily admit you saw pornography as a teenager yourself! does this not mean that your urge to stop porn could be a result of psychological harm from viewing pornography? your position is illogical and indefensible.
and being a parent does not give you any more philosphical or psychological authority on the topic than any other slashdot nerd. your opinions and annecdotal insight are not scientific fact. especially since you dont have any, you havent let them see it yet. you cannot claim the effects it will any more than i, a childless single person can, because you have not children that had be harmed by pornography. in case you didnt notice most people are idiots, and they grew up learning from parents just like you.
i would personally much rather have my children voluntarily reading slashdot than perezhilton.
also heres an interesting thought. lets assume people reading slashdot are fairly intelligent folk with technical knowledge. therefore they have had access to pornography, hate speech, goatse, tubgirl and everything else on the internet from the youngest age. They read technology and science news, are politically active and tend to fairly morally balanced. If the stereotype is to be believed they RARELY have sex.
most people i know without this technical knowledge, who have never seen the likes of goatse, (i'm 20), spend their days talking fashion, celebrities and getting drunk. Their favorite sites are myspace and celebrity gossip sites. My friend complained to me the other day that he hasnt had sex in nearly a week. He certainly fits into this crowd. he has no idea the things i have seen. others do drugs on a regular basis. i know a couple that do and almsot never use the internet, and never have.
i think you see what im getting at here. unless you can provide soem evidence for your position, your position should be reconsidered.
in closing, can i please have some responses from parents with children or the people themselves WHO HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY PORNOGRPAHY, GOATSE TYPE THINGS, OR OTHER SUCH 'HARMFUL' MATERIAL?
No need to talk about mrhands
Perhpas youd rather we frequent perezhilton.com...
ok iv noticed this trick works well for increasing post rating: 'il probably get moded flamebait but...' man youd make the worst boss... It sounds like your a bean counter type who immediatly sees the lack of 'productivity' in any new idea. A bit of humor, some new ideas and some novelty go a long way in a workplace, and do a lot more for morale and productivity than robot-like efficiency ever could.
Im sorry but this just pisses me off. Like the above poster pointed out, apple charges close to $200 AUD for the same thing!
Sony: $100 US for 20gb more space Apple $100+ US (not sure the exact amount) for 20gb more and black instead of white. which entails close to 0 manufacturing cost. actually its probably cheaper because white is harder to make than black.
When sony does it, its theft! how dare they charge such exhorbitant prices! When apple does it, its a "design choice" you idiots! your paying for superior(?) design. i.e. black.
I dislike sony too. But i dislike apple more. Sony is like Kim Jong Il. They treat you liek shit and veil it with a thin facade of politeness.
Apple is like the US government. Theyve convinced the people theyre king shit, even tho theyre at least as bad as sony.
i suppose then rednecks are on the same level as mac fanboys.
I went to high school in australia at a well respected high school and the teachers made no secret of this. At the beginning of grade 10, the year we have our frist major government controlled test, on the first day in each subject they literally explained that we have the test at the end of the year and we will be doing everything we can to get the highest marks possible.
before every exam or test we were actually penalized if we did not study previous year's exam papers to see how they were designed, since there was a good chance most of the questions were exactly the same. the board of education even produces pretend exam papers for schools, im assuming they cost money too. (They call these papers "specimens". I certainly think someone needs a better education.)
In "lesser" subjects like religous education, health, etc. often the teacher gave us exactly the same peper from last year. literally photocopied. It was therefore expected you would receive 90%+. If you didnt there was cause for concern.
When i pointed out time and again that these teaching methods were clearly bullshit, taught nothing, and that the testing methods had been scientifically proven to be ineffective, i was either told in so many words to stop asking questions and do as your told, or the (slightly) better teachers would say well thats the way it is so youl just have ot get over it. just get over the fact im literally wasting years of my life "learning".
Even though this sounds like a rant, all im doing is recounting the facts of my high school education. This was at a highly respected private school that costs somewhere on the order of $15,000 AUD a year. im fairly confident i could have gotten an equal education for free.
oh and heres another good one, i did a grade ten assignment on (if im not mistaken) one of the main (then?) current theories on the beggining of the universe. When i got to the part where the universe quantum tunneled into exitence from nothing, i was promptly stopped and given a fail, because "nothing can happen for no reason or come from nothing." said my science teacher. when i tried to explain how that was the whole point, he articualtely disproved the theory with "No thats wrong." back to the drawing board, all you physicists. Also i was admonished for trying to do an assignment on something supposedly so advanced, and not on photosynthesis or how a hummingbird's wings work. silly me for attempting to further my education. Actually as i recall nearly all of year 10 was about photosynthesis for some inexplicable reason, and yet i still couldnt tell you in slightest how it works. im pretty sure reading the wikipedia article could give me a much more efficient education.
I have more stories too, like how an assignment i did which didnt end up wokring out i used to demonstrate how subtley flawed methodology can produce ludicrous results was marked as a fail because the results were wrong, but i think you get the point, and if i made any mistakes in this post, dont blame me blame my education.
Due to this flawed system of education despite my great interest in physics, language, biology and computers, i now work for apple selling simplified computers to complete idiots.
And if this doesnt shake my bad karma 0 default post score, nothing will. iv already tried memes for gods sake!
No, i dont think i would hearth back to orgrimmar or ironforge to spread a disease in real life.
i never understood why for a site thats news for nerds most people seen to be so adamantly against this new technology. Every article i see on hd is filled with people making the same comments about its only a bit better etc etc, the things joe consumer would say. Doesnt the fact that were nerds mean we want to upgrade? I know i want the best, even if it is slightly better, because i love technology. I just bought a second high end gpu. Sure i was getting 80fps in most games before but thats not the point. For nerds most people here seem to hold a similar approach to hd as my mother. I got a ps3 imported before release and the first time i watched casino royale i was amazed. It was genuinely exciting and the picture was outstanding, far bigger difference between vhs and dvd. Is it just hate for anything sony/microsoft/movie studios does that drives this? Its really disheartening to see nerds reject this clearly improved technology because were the early adopters and if we dont push new tech who will? We could still be here taking about how cassettes are an unneeded upgrade on records