How'a'bout this: Make a dupe icon... then all duplicate stories get posted under that. Then for everyone who doesn't want dupes they can just filter those out.
You say: What yahoo.com? You say: Who is yahoo.com? You say: Busted quest. You say: who for emotional support? You say: emotional support for who? You say: I wish they'd fix this stupid quest... Damn verrant.
Note: I do not have children, but I act like one (just ask my wife).
Good idea! I'll just have my child frozen when I head to work... Or like when I am sleeping. My wife and I don't need to sleep at the same time. Or better yet, I can lock them up in their room, maybe slide a bed pan through a slot in the door.
Unmoderated channels on the internet are quite often filled with spam/porn. Heck, look at linux kernel archives, technically no moderation there, but you will see the occasional ad/spam there. Or how about newsgroups, another example of where unmoderated lists just simpley do not work.
Now, I don't trust the government to do all the filtering either, I am sure there is stuff in *.kids.us that I would not approve of also. However, if I were to restrict and account for a child to the kids.us domain, I could be reasonabley assured that since it is moderated that he is not getting into sites the I would definitely not approve of. I still have the server logs to verify what he has looked at afterwards too.
Now, to those folks out there that claim that parents should encourage their children to experience as many things as possible, and the internet is just another experience to have, I don't buy it. I don't have to be abused to know its not a good thing. I don't have to smoke to know its bad for my lungs. I don't have to do (foo) to know that it is bad.
You might feel that porn is fine. I don't want my children to be exposed to it. With the (swear word approaching) biblical values (/swa) I hold to, it is wrong. It is wrong to have sex outside marriage. My body, as is my wifes, is meant for us alone.
You may not agree with the (swa) bible (/swa) and hold other values. But, as a parent, it is your job to raise your children. You might claim that I should raise my children with no beliefs and let them figure it out on their own. Ah, but what you fail to see in that is you are instilling beliefs into your children even doing that. As the Rush song goes, "Even if you choose not to decide, you have still made a choice." Not matter how you raise your children, you have influenced them.
Bush is in the White House, so probably no law will get passed. If it does, it will be 400 pages long, and allow the FBI to come to your house, take your computer and dump it in Anwar. Then, a few months later, Bush will send a "Reclamation Team" to go and 'dig it up'. "Look! We found oil! Since we're already here, might as well 'dig that up' too.
And if we had Clinton still in office? Still probably no law, but if it did get passed, it'd allow secret service to come to your house, escorting Bill, he'd search your harddrive for porn, order the machine confiscated, have it to be brought to the oval office with an intern. Then the you'd get it back with stains, he'd claim that he didn't have sex with it.
Had Algore been president, he'd have the machine confiscated because of DMCA violations as he invented the internet. You'd then be thrown in the nearest "why the government handles your money better than you can" rehabilitation center.
If you're Republican, and are offended by my comment or mod it down, it proves you have a small weiner.
If you're a Democrat/Green/whatever else, and are offended by my comment or mod it down, it proves that you have more in common with Dolly and the rest of the free (think like everyone else on slashdot for karma) thinking slashdot liberals. Oh, and probably have a small weiner too.
I am certainly glad that I got into Linux and OSS before I ever heard of slashdot. Otherwise I don't think I would have ever tried it.
Brings to mind certain flavors of Christianity
sed s/Christianity/atheists/
sed s/Christianity/Muslims/
sed s/Christianity/slashdotters/
Its nice to know Christians need not apply for Linux. Let me ask you a question, what the hell does what people do with their Sunday mornings have to do with Linux? You sound like more of a bigot than any christian I have ever met. <sarcasm> You know what, when I am with christian friends, you know what we do? We laugh and make jokes and insult muslims, hindus, athiests, jews, all of them. </sarcasm> What is it with you that you need to bring comments like that up? Have you nothing better to do here other than troll and beg for mod points by making anti-religion comments? Personally, I think we should mock ford drivers instead of have discussion on the article here. And if we have a chance, maybe someone else who likes chocolate. We know those chocolate lovers should all be MS folks, lets make off hand comments about them too!
Transformations. That is the part of XML that I like the most. At work I develop a product that has a lot of raw data. Its representations can be vast and numerous. As an example, we can represent the data in an XML format, then using XSLT transform it into HTML, ascii text, CSV, PDF, and even formats that will import into quicken and such.
Unfortuneatly XML has become a buzzword. So when someone claims they use XML (as people yack about MS with their new file format) it doesn't actually mean anything. XML is not the proverbial hammer to wack nails, screws, and hooks with, but it does have its uses. For us, it is best used with its transformation ability with XSLT. When we first started work with it we found that it did not help with many of the things we do however.
Personally I have come up with my own little XML definition to help seperate content and display. I am putting together the classic "see my cats" page at home, and also having other applications like webmail and budget database on my website for myself. One thing that is really nice is to be able to change just the XSL stylesheet for processing the XML to change then entire feel for the site. Like if I change the forms handler, I just change the transformation for the forms and all forms will look similar, instead of having some with a particular feel and others with a different feel.
Ofcourse, ymmv, but XML is not cursed simplely because it is a buzzword.
How is this different from publishing the address/phone numbers/etc of abortion doctors? I'm not making a moral statement here, but seeing the comments here about firebombing his new house, I'd say that it only takes one wacko.
I'm not to keen on someone ssh'ing into my box and su'ing to root. But why would they run fsck? Would they atleast unmount the drive before they did that? Oh, I'd me mighty pissed if they ran it before umounting the partition they are fsck'ing.
Or maybe it was taken by some rabid atheist who wants to bring religion into a totally no religion oriented topic. Then he'd try to make fanatic monothiests look bad by posting stupid stuff to slashdot. Why do some atheists feel they have to run around being jack-asses just like those they hate? Sure, there is the occasional fanatic monotheist who runs around yacking at people. If you don't believe what they have to say, ignore them. Why do you feel compelled to act in the same fashion of those you seem to dispise?
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Not actually being on the phone with the fellow, I don't know exactly how accurate your assesment(sp?) of his attitude was, but I think there is the possiblity that he could have been genuinely interested in the customer here. If Dell does not support linux on the configuration you were after, how do you expect them to support it? If they do not, why go through Dell in the first place? Find a white box locally. Also, perhaps he has been instructed to ask the customers about how they plan on using linux, so Dell knows better if/how to support linux in the future. They did at one point think/try putting linux on the desktop systems I believe. I don't think this guy is going to send out the elite dell stormtroopers to get you.
Someone has to comment on this. I mean, come on, spelling article write ups wrong is one thing. But leaving the 'e' out of break.slashdot.org? I mean really, its bad enough with Taco trying to mess up his own pages with spelling errors, but now DNS is soiled by him.
Or, maybe this is a secret plea for help by Taco? Its a sign he wants to say in the east. It might be brake.slashdot.org. And he is trying to/stop/ the move?
Note to mods: funny or not-funny, not make-fun-of-taco-seriously
That is really cool. Excellent work in javascript. I guess now I have to stop laughing at my boss who thinks its actually useful to use javascript. Bummer.
I'm a happy user of spam assassin also! I never knew how easy it is to get rid of unwanted mail. I pay this man, well, actually I leave a small paper bag of small denomination, unmarked bills behind my trash barrel, and I never see any spam again. Sure, every day around 3pm the paramedics arrive out by the mail boxes and pull a man out of some truck with a blue eagle on it (Just between you and me, I think he's stalking me). The the police come and ask me some questions. They are very nice folks you know. Anyways, back to spam assassin. Its really a top notch product. I never see any spam at all now. Infact, I don't think I've recieved mail since I hired spam assassin, which also means NO BILLS! Which is nice, cause what I pay for spam assassin is crazy, but it sure is worth it knowing I don't get any junk mail anymore. Sure, spam assassin sounds like a dangerous product, but it really has made my life so much wonderful!
This works for httpd fairly well. However, consider procmail. It needs to be able to write to any users mail file. So for certain servers it works well. For certain ones it does not. Others that might have problems would be crond also. If crond cannot switch to the proper user when executing it will not work either.
I don't see how this buys too much though. It doesn't explain the configuration policy. But I suppose if you can allow a certain app with the full path and maybe a checksum on the binary, then set the permissions to the app. like this:/usr/bin/procmail checksum +setuid() +setgid()
That might work. But it seems easier to just say you will allow procmail to run setuid root. It keeps the idea simpler and does not require that the administrator know exactly what syscalls procmail makes.
In summary, this might be a cool idea, but I think expecting a sysadmin to know exactly what syscalls an application needs to have for permissions is a bit much. Sure, you may claim that the admin should know these things, but do you really think an admin reads/understands all the source code that goes onto his system? I highly doubt it.
Even though this is not OpenOffice.org or anything, it is still good news.
Consider that if they hold out on this, and people really want to use MS Office, that they will have to pay the full price for MS Office. When you start seeing a couple hundred clams being dropped for just an office suite maybe folks will come to their senses.
Right now my work is based on MS Office and a number of other MS tools. When I mention the idea of looking into OpenOffice.org they say we get MS Office for free. Which isn't true. We just buy it in bulk (pay an obsene price to have as many licenses of MS Office/W2k/...). It hides the cost. So companies never see the cost of MS Office.
However, the end user will start seeing the price if they buy machines with Corel Office, which does the trick. But if they want to do MS Office thing, then they truely see the price at home.
I like this idea. The whole concept of pricing themselves out of the market.
Sure, it may look more complete than before. But that is awful looking! Why would any developer use such an ugly look. I assume you can change the 'bubbley-ness' to the look with a different theme, but to put out screen shots that look like that?
It reminds me of winxp my sister-in-law uses. That look is not clean. I like defined lines! I like squared edges on buttons. I don't like bubbles. I do not lick my desktop.
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How'a'bout this: Make a dupe icon... then all duplicate stories get posted under that. Then for everyone who doesn't want dupes they can just filter those out.
lameness filter sucks.
Murder? Re-apply your arguements with murder instead of abortion.
You say: What yahoo.com?
You say: Who is yahoo.com?
You say: Busted quest.
You say: who for emotional support?
You say: emotional support for who?
You say: I wish they'd fix this stupid quest... Damn verrant.
You forgot 127.0.0.1! Life would really suck if you couldn't fine localhost. Better put that one in the /etc/hosts file.
Note: I do not have children, but I act like one (just ask my wife).
Good idea! I'll just have my child frozen when I head to work... Or like when I am sleeping. My wife and I don't need to sleep at the same time. Or better yet, I can lock them up in their room, maybe slide a bed pan through a slot in the door.
Unmoderated channels on the internet are quite often filled with spam/porn. Heck, look at linux kernel archives, technically no moderation there, but you will see the occasional ad/spam there. Or how about newsgroups, another example of where unmoderated lists just simpley do not work.
Now, I don't trust the government to do all the filtering either, I am sure there is stuff in *.kids.us that I would not approve of also. However, if I were to restrict and account for a child to the kids.us domain, I could be reasonabley assured that since it is moderated that he is not getting into sites the I would definitely not approve of. I still have the server logs to verify what he has looked at afterwards too.
Now, to those folks out there that claim that parents should encourage their children to experience as many things as possible, and the internet is just another experience to have, I don't buy it. I don't have to be abused to know its not a good thing. I don't have to smoke to know its bad for my lungs. I don't have to do (foo) to know that it is bad.
You might feel that porn is fine. I don't want my children to be exposed to it. With the (swear word approaching) biblical values (/swa) I hold to, it is wrong. It is wrong to have sex outside marriage. My body, as is my wifes, is meant for us alone.
You may not agree with the (swa) bible (/swa) and hold other values. But, as a parent, it is your job to raise your children. You might claim that I should raise my children with no beliefs and let them figure it out on their own. Ah, but what you fail to see in that is you are instilling beliefs into your children even doing that. As the Rush song goes, "Even if you choose not to decide, you have still made a choice." Not matter how you raise your children, you have influenced them.
Funny, I thought he was from a country Europe, and just figured assholes... :-P
Bush is in the White House, so probably no law will get passed. If it does, it will be 400 pages long, and allow the FBI to come to your house, take your computer and dump it in Anwar. Then, a few months later, Bush will send a "Reclamation Team" to go and 'dig it up'. "Look! We found oil! Since we're already here, might as well 'dig that up' too.
And if we had Clinton still in office? Still probably no law, but if it did get passed, it'd allow secret service to come to your house, escorting Bill, he'd search your harddrive for porn, order the machine confiscated, have it to be brought to the oval office with an intern. Then the you'd get it back with stains, he'd claim that he didn't have sex with it.
Had Algore been president, he'd have the machine confiscated because of DMCA violations as he invented the internet. You'd then be thrown in the nearest "why the government handles your money better than you can" rehabilitation center.
If you're Republican, and are offended by my comment or mod it down, it proves you have a small weiner.
If you're a Democrat/Green/whatever else, and are offended by my comment or mod it down, it proves that you have more in common with Dolly and the rest of the free (think like everyone else on slashdot for karma) thinking slashdot liberals. Oh, and probably have a small weiner too.
Don't say I didn't warn you...
Take this warning about as much as the one above.
I am certainly glad that I got into Linux and OSS before I ever heard of slashdot. Otherwise I don't think I would have ever tried it.
Brings to mind certain flavors of Christianity
sed s/Christianity/atheists/
sed s/Christianity/Muslims/
sed s/Christianity/slashdotters/
Its nice to know Christians need not apply for Linux. Let me ask you a question, what the hell does what people do with their Sunday mornings have to do with Linux? You sound like more of a bigot than any christian I have ever met. <sarcasm> You know what, when I am with christian friends, you know what we do? We laugh and make jokes and insult muslims, hindus, athiests, jews, all of them. </sarcasm> What is it with you that you need to bring comments like that up? Have you nothing better to do here other than troll and beg for mod points by making anti-religion comments? Personally, I think we should mock ford drivers instead of have discussion on the article here. And if we have a chance, maybe someone else who likes chocolate. We know those chocolate lovers should all be MS folks, lets make off hand comments about them too!
Transformations. That is the part of XML that I like the most. At work I develop a product that has a lot of raw data. Its representations can be vast and numerous. As an example, we can represent the data in an XML format, then using XSLT transform it into HTML, ascii text, CSV, PDF, and even formats that will import into quicken and such.
Unfortuneatly XML has become a buzzword. So when someone claims they use XML (as people yack about MS with their new file format) it doesn't actually mean anything. XML is not the proverbial hammer to wack nails, screws, and hooks with, but it does have its uses. For us, it is best used with its transformation ability with XSLT. When we first started work with it we found that it did not help with many of the things we do however.
Personally I have come up with my own little XML definition to help seperate content and display. I am putting together the classic "see my cats" page at home, and also having other applications like webmail and budget database on my website for myself. One thing that is really nice is to be able to change just the XSL stylesheet for processing the XML to change then entire feel for the site. Like if I change the forms handler, I just change the transformation for the forms and all forms will look similar, instead of having some with a particular feel and others with a different feel.
Ofcourse, ymmv, but XML is not cursed simplely because it is a buzzword.
How is this different from publishing the address/phone numbers/etc of abortion doctors? I'm not making a moral statement here, but seeing the comments here about firebombing his new house, I'd say that it only takes one wacko.
I'm not to keen on someone ssh'ing into my box and su'ing to root. But why would they run fsck? Would they atleast unmount the drive before they did that? Oh, I'd me mighty pissed if they ran it before umounting the partition they are fsck'ing.
Or for you tcsh-ignorant people:
% setenv EDITOR pico
Or maybe it was taken by some rabid atheist who wants to bring religion into a totally no religion oriented topic. Then he'd try to make fanatic monothiests look bad by posting stupid stuff to slashdot. Why do some atheists feel they have to run around being jack-asses just like those they hate? Sure, there is the occasional fanatic monotheist who runs around yacking at people. If you don't believe what they have to say, ignore them. Why do you feel compelled to act in the same fashion of those you seem to dispise?
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Nice. :-)
Not actually being on the phone with the fellow, I don't know exactly how accurate your assesment(sp?) of his attitude was, but I think there is the possiblity that he could have been genuinely interested in the customer here. If Dell does not support linux on the configuration you were after, how do you expect them to support it? If they do not, why go through Dell in the first place? Find a white box locally. Also, perhaps he has been instructed to ask the customers about how they plan on using linux, so Dell knows better if/how to support linux in the future. They did at one point think/try putting linux on the desktop systems I believe. I don't think this guy is going to send out the elite dell stormtroopers to get you.
Someone has to comment on this. I mean, come on, spelling article write ups wrong is one thing. But leaving the 'e' out of break.slashdot.org? I mean really, its bad enough with Taco trying to mess up his own pages with spelling errors, but now DNS is soiled by him.
Or, maybe this is a secret plea for help by Taco? Its a sign he wants to say in the east. It might be brake.slashdot.org. And he is trying to /stop/ the move?
Note to mods: funny or not-funny, not make-fun-of-taco-seriously
And this is evidence that so do poor minds? :-P
I beat it with ease.
That is really cool. Excellent work in javascript. I guess now I have to stop laughing at my boss who thinks its actually useful to use javascript. Bummer.
I'm a happy user of spam assassin also! I never knew how easy it is to get rid of unwanted mail. I pay this man, well, actually I leave a small paper bag of small denomination, unmarked bills behind my trash barrel, and I never see any spam again. Sure, every day around 3pm the paramedics arrive out by the mail boxes and pull a man out of some truck with a blue eagle on it (Just between you and me, I think he's stalking me). The the police come and ask me some questions. They are very nice folks you know. Anyways, back to spam assassin. Its really a top notch product. I never see any spam at all now. Infact, I don't think I've recieved mail since I hired spam assassin, which also means NO BILLS! Which is nice, cause what I pay for spam assassin is crazy, but it sure is worth it knowing I don't get any junk mail anymore. Sure, spam assassin sounds like a dangerous product, but it really has made my life so much wonderful!
Okey, when are they going to make the one for Dr. Evil, as evidently they can make one for Mini Me?
Predictability was another aspect of being trustworthy, he said, ...
I predict MS screws up and lies and produces good enough software from now on, remaining completely un trustworthy. Do I win a prize?
This works for httpd fairly well. However, consider procmail. It needs to be able to write to any users mail file. So for certain servers it works well. For certain ones it does not. Others that might have problems would be crond also. If crond cannot switch to the proper user when executing it will not work either.
I don't see how this buys too much though. It doesn't explain the configuration policy. But I suppose if you can allow a certain app with the full path and maybe a checksum on the binary, then set the permissions to the app. like this: /usr/bin/procmail checksum +setuid() +setgid()
That might work. But it seems easier to just say you will allow procmail to run setuid root. It keeps the idea simpler and does not require that the administrator know exactly what syscalls procmail makes.
In summary, this might be a cool idea, but I think expecting a sysadmin to know exactly what syscalls an application needs to have for permissions is a bit much. Sure, you may claim that the admin should know these things, but do you really think an admin reads/understands all the source code that goes onto his system? I highly doubt it.
Even though this is not OpenOffice.org or anything, it is still good news.
Consider that if they hold out on this, and people really want to use MS Office, that they will have to pay the full price for MS Office. When you start seeing a couple hundred clams being dropped for just an office suite maybe folks will come to their senses.
Right now my work is based on MS Office and a number of other MS tools. When I mention the idea of looking into OpenOffice.org they say we get MS Office for free. Which isn't true. We just buy it in bulk (pay an obsene price to have as many licenses of MS Office/W2k/...). It hides the cost. So companies never see the cost of MS Office.
However, the end user will start seeing the price if they buy machines with Corel Office, which does the trick. But if they want to do MS Office thing, then they truely see the price at home.
I like this idea. The whole concept of pricing themselves out of the market.
Sure, it may look more complete than before. But that is awful looking! Why would any developer use such an ugly look. I assume you can change the 'bubbley-ness' to the look with a different theme, but to put out screen shots that look like that?
It reminds me of winxp my sister-in-law uses. That look is not clean. I like defined lines! I like squared edges on buttons. I don't like bubbles. I do not lick my desktop.
Make it go away!