Yes! All this crap about heavy users hurting the ability of lighter users to access the network is just FUD crap. Dynamic throttling of connections that are using a larger share of bandwidth when the network is nearing being overloaded is the correct solution to this problem. Throttling users after a certain amount of data is used is just stupid. They were perfectly able to use all they wanted to the detriment of the other users at the beginning of the contract month and that's not a problem, but after a set amount of data it then becomes somehow worse on the network? WTF?
Biasing the throttling during busy periods towards the users who have heavier usage patterns would even be acceptable, but if there is spare capacity, why not use it? Oh, you want to be able to charge more money even though you advertised and sold these unlimited plans? I see.
No. It means your bandwidth is reduced when you hit those thresholds, you continue to be able to exchange data beyond the 3GB/5GB, just more slowly. They're not cutting anyone off, they're throttling to prevent average users from being negatively impacted by the highest percentile users. Wireless bandwidth is limited and shared, and this is just a way of ensuring the heaviest users don't hog it all.
Oh, that makes perfect sense, seeing as how there is obviously more bandwidth available at the beginning of the month and much less available towards the end of the month when those limits are imposed and connections throttled </sarcasm>
A couple of small-time politicians in 1897 briefly consider a bill for placing a method of squaring a circle into the public domain, until people who understand math better tell them it's wrong.
Why did you even bother finding links that totally do nothing for your argument? Should have stuck to the emotional appeal of "dumb politicians hate science"
Too bad, I give it 10-20 years from the moment this stuff hits the shelves until the first leftist country bans real meat.
Really? With all the anti-GMO propaganda and fear I figure it's more likely the synthetic stuff will be much more likely to be banned. The anti-meat folks are a pretty small minority compared to the OMG-evil-science crowd
Nobody feels sorry for you for overselling your service even more than you calculated you were going to. Shut up and provide customers the service they bought with those billions of dollars of profit you make every quarter, even in one of the worst economies since the Depression. You'll find nobody here shedding a tear for you.
Oh, they knew how badly they were overselling their service, it was just too tempting for them to go ahead and take all that extra money and hope the problem goes away eventually. All the data providers seem to be doing it. My mom recently switched from Comcast to Century Link for her home internet and television to save some money. In the three months before I got her to switch back it never worked a full day. The Century Link guys came out five times and couldn't ever fix it, then one of them let slip that our area was around 10x oversold compared to capacity and that was why the television and internet would die often and not work again for 20 minutes to a few hours.
I think the plan for both of them was to oversell now then use that income to build the network you already promised you had. Only they never got around to that second part.
Actually there was a slashdot story just recently that said it was the abilities of the A5 chip that allowed Siri to work and that the older A4 chips couldn't handle the load. Don't know if that turned out to be bullshit, just saying.
I totally agree. I pretty much always use torrentz.com for searching, but btjunkie was always the site I went to from there to grab the torrent file because the comments were useful and the download link was so obvious and right there at the top with scrolling down or trying to figure out if "download" was actually an ad link
Ron Paul is NOT willing to balance the budget. He uses that as an excuse to cut there programs is big backers want hos to cut. Specifically the EPA.
Of course, your whole statement is fallacies in assume that cutting the budget would actual fix the dept. You have completely fallen for this false austerity that republicans keep pushing through the media.
Why is NBC listed there? they where one of the few to actually report Ron Paul's poll position without it being an aside followed by a jab at him. Ron Paul assumes industry will protect the people. You don't see a problem there?
I have no idea what you just said there. I don't even know if I agree with you or not. I couldn't get past the god-awful grammar, spelling, and word misuse.
Please learn English or GTFO (Since you obviously live in Portland, I figure you'd know something)
At first, I thought this might be a poorly disguised advert for Iron Sky,
Oh my god, I thought this whole article posting was a worthless waste of time, but it has given me that link and so all is good. I can't believe I haven't heard of Iron Sky yet. Nazi's in space? Yes please!
I totally expected more comments than this, shameful slashdot!
This was a great read; very fascinating stuff. Thank you for taking the time to answer that many questions in depth. And you've opened up a whole new area of interest for me as I love digitization and archiving and open government and was unaware of these efforts.
One last thing, anything a normal citizen can do to help?
I'll definitely be reading the follow up posts. I'm especially interested in what kind of connection and network you have set up and how you're supporting 12 active connections like that.
Phht, that's Dungeons and Dragons, a game your play with friends in your mom's basement. He was talking about Civilization, a game you play alone in your mom's basement.
Slashdot Mirror
so it should be maths not math.
What are you, British?
Yeah that's great, except he's a British man living in the UK.
It's #2 on the Most Read list on the right hand side. That's where I found it this morning.
Yes! All this crap about heavy users hurting the ability of lighter users to access the network is just FUD crap. Dynamic throttling of connections that are using a larger share of bandwidth when the network is nearing being overloaded is the correct solution to this problem. Throttling users after a certain amount of data is used is just stupid. They were perfectly able to use all they wanted to the detriment of the other users at the beginning of the contract month and that's not a problem, but after a set amount of data it then becomes somehow worse on the network? WTF?
Biasing the throttling during busy periods towards the users who have heavier usage patterns would even be acceptable, but if there is spare capacity, why not use it? Oh, you want to be able to charge more money even though you advertised and sold these unlimited plans? I see.
No. It means your bandwidth is reduced when you hit those thresholds, you continue to be able to exchange data beyond the 3GB/5GB, just more slowly. They're not cutting anyone off, they're throttling to prevent average users from being negatively impacted by the highest percentile users. Wireless bandwidth is limited and shared, and this is just a way of ensuring the heaviest users don't hog it all.
Oh, that makes perfect sense, seeing as how there is obviously more bandwidth available at the beginning of the month and much less available towards the end of the month when those limits are imposed and connections throttled </sarcasm>
I would pay to see a Schrodinger's cat fight. So suspenseful!
Spoiler alert: The live one wins
Not to worry though, it won't take long;
A guy running for president is called anti-science. He responds, "No, you're anti-science!" Standard political bullshit, nothing to do with science.
after all precedents exist
A couple of small-time politicians in 1897 briefly consider a bill for placing a method of squaring a circle into the public domain, until people who understand math better tell them it's wrong.
and, if the electorate require it,
UK asks citizens what laws to repeal; gets tongue-in-cheek response to repeal the laws of thermodynamics. Sounds like a couple geeks making a joke,
I'm sure the politicians will oblige
Completely fabricated story from a fake news site.
( ;) )
Unrelated XKCD comic.
Why did you even bother finding links that totally do nothing for your argument? Should have stuck to the emotional appeal of "dumb politicians hate science"
Too bad, I give it 10-20 years from the moment this stuff hits the shelves until the first leftist country bans real meat.
Really? With all the anti-GMO propaganda and fear I figure it's more likely the synthetic stuff will be much more likely to be banned. The anti-meat folks are a pretty small minority compared to the OMG-evil-science crowd
coopetition
Awesome, it's a mix of cooperation and competition. Still not quite sure how that works though.
Nobody feels sorry for you for overselling your service even more than you calculated you were going to. Shut up and provide customers the service they bought with those billions of dollars of profit you make every quarter, even in one of the worst economies since the Depression. You'll find nobody here shedding a tear for you.
Oh, they knew how badly they were overselling their service, it was just too tempting for them to go ahead and take all that extra money and hope the problem goes away eventually. All the data providers seem to be doing it. My mom recently switched from Comcast to Century Link for her home internet and television to save some money. In the three months before I got her to switch back it never worked a full day. The Century Link guys came out five times and couldn't ever fix it, then one of them let slip that our area was around 10x oversold compared to capacity and that was why the television and internet would die often and not work again for 20 minutes to a few hours.
I think the plan for both of them was to oversell now then use that income to build the network you already promised you had. Only they never got around to that second part.
Actually there was a slashdot story just recently that said it was the abilities of the A5 chip that allowed Siri to work and that the older A4 chips couldn't handle the load. Don't know if that turned out to be bullshit, just saying.
damnit, with == "without"
I totally agree. I pretty much always use torrentz.com for searching, but btjunkie was always the site I went to from there to grab the torrent file because the comments were useful and the download link was so obvious and right there at the top with scrolling down or trying to figure out if "download" was actually an ad link
Ron Paul is NOT willing to balance the budget. He uses that as an excuse to cut there programs is big backers want hos to cut. Specifically the EPA.
Of course, your whole statement is fallacies in assume that cutting the budget would actual fix the dept. You have completely fallen for this false austerity that republicans keep pushing through the media.
Why is NBC listed there? they where one of the few to actually report Ron Paul's poll position without it being an aside followed by a jab at him. Ron Paul assumes industry will protect the people. You don't see a problem there?
I have no idea what you just said there. I don't even know if I agree with you or not. I couldn't get past the god-awful grammar, spelling, and word misuse.
Please learn English or GTFO (Since you obviously live in Portland, I figure you'd know something)
Sad but yes. Would you help the empire build the Death Star?
Are you kidding me? Hell yes!
If you wouldn't jump at the chance to work on something that awesome you should just hand in your geek card right now.
Well, there's something wrong with this one!
Cite. Seriously, all the complaints I hear on a daily basis are imaginary or deliberately exaggerated.
Well, for starters he's practical and reasonable and a centrist. So that just pisses off everybody :)
At first, I thought this might be a poorly disguised advert for Iron Sky,
Oh my god, I thought this whole article posting was a worthless waste of time, but it has given me that link and so all is good. I can't believe I haven't heard of Iron Sky yet. Nazi's in space? Yes please!
Thank you!
What's film? ;)
I totally expected more comments than this, shameful slashdot!
This was a great read; very fascinating stuff. Thank you for taking the time to answer that many questions in depth. And you've opened up a whole new area of interest for me as I love digitization and archiving and open government and was unaware of these efforts.
One last thing, anything a normal citizen can do to help?
What? so you'd vote for Lord Xenu as long as he said he'd bring the troops back from Afghanistan? WTF? Ron Paul is a fucking whack-job.
BTW, I'm a Democrat and I supported both wars, so your argument is off again.
Awesome, thank you for sharing!
I'll definitely be reading the follow up posts. I'm especially interested in what kind of connection and network you have set up and how you're supporting 12 active connections like that.
Again, sweet, the cabinets are really cool.
Phht, that's Dungeons and Dragons, a game your play with friends in your mom's basement. He was talking about Civilization, a game you play alone in your mom's basement.
Programming languages != mothers.
Fixed That For You.
If it works on Windows and Mac (and even the Mac part isn't all THAT important), then its good enough from a business perspective.
...and on the Wii, XBOX 360, PS3, many tv boxes, most smart phones... There are enough vectors for Netflix to ignore Linux with no problem.
Will never forget this: http://mtv.mtvnimages.com/content/ontv/vma/2008/photo/flipbooks/vma-mayhem/VMA2000-Napster-founder-2363908-Getty.jpg?width=600
That is hilarious, thank you!