When the Geforce 6800GT came out, it was $500. Now, it's $450.
And that was 6 months time.
Look, if you can't add anything constructive, just shut up. If you're not playing 3d games made in the past 3 years, or you're just surfing the web / writing spreadsheets, you can get by just fine with the "intel extreme graphics" that comes on the motherboard.
Some people play games, and some people want to have good framerates. If you're not one of them, then STFU. Go play zork.
First, it says on the label, which is clearly visible, that the maximum is not 35A times 12V = 420 Watts, but 324 Watts.
Not to mention, I'd like to see anyone get 35 Amps out of a standard home or commercial outlet. Most houses in the US are wired with 14guage wire, and are designed to handle 15A comfortably, which is usually the size of the breaker. Commercial outlets usually are 20 amps, using 12guage wire.
If anything in your computer used 35 amps, it would require a dryer-type NEMA plug and a dedicated circuit.
Hah! I remember appleworks. We had it on a 5 1/4 floppy for our Apple IIgs. It had a lot of forward-thinking options at the time, like ascii interpretations of folders, and an option to print to disk (for text files, so I could write my applesoft basic in appleworks rather than in the included "editor", which consisted of cat the program, break where you want to edit, and escape up into the program).
On one hand, it really irritated me to discover that the app I downloaded (for testing purposes only!) would also install spyware.
It's not just apps - I downloaded a family guy episode, unrared it, and it was an executable. 170 megs of executable, so it was probably the spyware piggybacked onto the data that was the video, but still.
I mean, I know better, and I almost clicked it. Since the only thing I download anymore is video files, I'm used to them being clean, and I'm used to sites not posting contaminated video files. If the icon hadn't been different, I may have clicked.
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Not only that, I was looking there just earlier today, and I thought "What a crock" when I saw the advertisement for the new batman movie (sorry, i meant "informative article"). Howstuffworks used to be useful, but I searched there today for the word roulette (was wondering if they had an article on how a roulette wheel is constructed - commercial ones are like $4000), and I got 300 "paid ads" that weren't even in the paid ads section.
howstuffworks is useless now. Just another website where advertising has replaced content.
Besides, I tend to make up my own encryption scheme for truly sensitive pictu^H^H^H^H^Hdocuments and then just delete the method.
Dude, if you encrypt your pr0n with a proprietary, undocumented encryption, you're either wearing enough tin-foil to build an aircraft, or you're into some really wierd shit I don't wanna know about.
There's still a guy out there releasing homebrew service packs for windows 95, but it's not sanctioned by microsoft and not guaranteed to work. Same thing here.
Standard Edition costs $299 for the version that you're quoting comprehensive support for. And that's the workstation version, not the server version. Also, that's $299 per year. With the $180/year version, you only get 30 days installation support. Compare to Windows XP Pro, which costs $180 Retail, one time charge.
For $350 (per year), you get RHEL "Basic Server", which comes with only 30 days of installation support. If you want to jump up to one with better support, it's $800 per year, and if you want 1 hour response, it's $2400 per year.
I appreciate your being nice here, and trying to point by point me, but I'd like to rebut quickly.
I said "not very profitable", I didn't say "not profitable". They were selling books, cd's, tshirts, and support contracts, and they were making enough money to pay salaries and bandwidth costs. And that should have been enough. They don't need to be a billion dollar a year company (in my opinion).
You also point out "use whatever fits your needs" several times, and I do. I use another linux distro (gentoo) on my server, mainly because I like the package manager. But, it continues to boggle the mind how people can use fedora for professional environments and servers.
As far as "you get what you pay for", I would say that goes to be more true for CEO's and CTO's perceptions than it is in real life. A lot of people get the "you get what you pay for" confused with "If it costs a lot of money, it must be good", and I see a lot of people falling into that mode of thought with RHEL.
That's all. To admit my bias, I was working for a company that had about 60 servers running RH7.3 and RH9 when they announced they were end-of-lifing it after it had been out for 6 months, and I had to deal with now learning debian and figuring out ways to either migrate my customers or whatever. It was a major pain in the ass.
As someone who used redhat through 6.0, 7.0, and 7.1 in a professional capacity, as well as all of the rest of them since 1999, I can tell you that you either have no idea what you're talking about, or you're trolling.
7.1 was a perfectly stable release. It was tested before it was released, and it functioned excellently. As did 7.2. But if you've been using redhat, and you think that RedHat 8 didn't suck, you need to have your head reexamined. Versions of software weren't compatible in the release (for example, it included the newest greatest versions of both mod_perl, and php, neither of which were compatible with apache2.0 at the time, which was included). It was pretty much everything from 7.3, brought up to the latest version available, with no regard for what worked with what other programs.
Also: Redhat had a good business releasing a product for free and selling support and physical media. They weren't terribly profitable, but whatever, they were a good company. Now, their workstation costs $180 PER YEAR minimum. Their server costs $350 PER YEAR minimum. And they didn't even write the software! They just wrote a couple of shell scripts to configure shit for you, and released someone else's work. But, oh wait, fedora's free, and it's pretty good! Yeah, where's the support for it? When redhat 7.1/7.2 etc came out, you could count on several years of software updates for the included packages. Not now - you're lucky to get 6 months out of fedora. And if you need support for Fedora Core1 at this point, the answer is "Upgrade to FC3 or FC4". Well, whatever for your desktop, but for servers? You can't be telling people they need to upgrade their server every 6 months to get updates. And anyone who says Fedora isn't a testbed for Enterprise is delusional.
Come on, people. RedHat shot themselves in the foot. They can't even compete with *MICROSOFT* on price anymore, hell, when you buy 2003 server, you at least get 5 years (plus or minus) of updates included. When you buy Windows XP Pro, you get the same thing. Not to mention, both come with support (such as it is). RedHat doesn't even make a token effort. And if you can't compete with microsoft on pricing and/or support, what's the point? Before you say stability and security, I'd like to first point you to the BSD's, which are free, and better than redhat at both. Hell, solaris is cheaper than RedHat, and it's significantly more stable.
Once people let go of the redhat name, it will die off. It's coasting on name recognition at this point. But redhat's "paradigm shift" or whatever has done more negative for the professional linux community than anything I can ever think of.
I'd even go 1 further and suggest watching the "THX" version of the movies, and not the special editions or the DVD versions. I don't give a fuck about the remastered scene in Jaba's palace - I can't stand CGI for the sake of CGI, which is exactly what that was. It looked cool when they redid it, but even a year or two later, it looked dated and gay. I like puppets. CGI characters, no matter how much real physics ragdoll modeling you do, will never behave like real physical objects. See also: JarJar jumping and doing a backflip into the water in episode 1. Also, I want my kid to see Han Solo fire first. Period. Han solo is a smuggler and a scoundrel. He's not a hero or a saint - he saves his own ass. Plus, the remake looks unnatural.
I mean, it would make sense to start with The Magician's Nephew, and work your way to The Last Battle, but... it is somehow more fulfilling to read them in the order written.
I also wouldn't read the Silmarillion before The Lord of the Rings.
While it isn't a necesary part of life to own a TV, it is another example of the further separation of the lower and upper classes.
I just heard on the radio today that there are 2 million people in the US that are millionaires, not including the value of their homes - that's about 2.3%. And yet, with unemployment rising, cost of health care rising, and jobs not being created as fast as people are entering the work force... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Here's another for you, courtesy of country joe and the fish:
Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men, Uncle Sam needs your help again. He's got himself in a terrible jam Way down yonder in Vietnam So put down your books and pick up a gun, We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.
And it's one, two, three, What are we fighting for ? Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, Next stop is Vietnam; And it's five, six, seven, Open up the pearly gates, Well there ain't no time to wonder why, Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Well, come on generals, let's move fast; Your big chance has come at last. Gotta go out and get those reds -- The only good commie is the one who's dead And you know that peace can only be won When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come.
Well, come on Wall Street, don't move slow, Why man, this is war au-go-go. There's plenty good money to be made By supplying the Army with the tools of the trade, Just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb, They drop it on the Viet Cong.
Well, come on mothers throughout the land, Pack your boys off to Vietnam. Come on fathers, don't hesitate, Send 'em off before it's too late. Be the first one on your block To have your boy come home in a box.
And it's one, two, three, What are we fighting for ? Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, Next stop is Vietnam; And it's five, six, seven, Open up the pearly gates, Well there ain't no time to wonder why Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
the upshot is that you have a fairly large minority are very upset about the seeming inability of many voters to grasp the underlying issues, and to understand that the reasoning given for this kind of stuff (to protect the homeland!) is horseshit, smoke & mirrors and is dooming much that the US stands for.
I have to admit, I do feel powerless in the USA. I don't talk politics anymore, because I'm afraid I'll piss someone off, due to it being such a divisive issue (but, hey, this is online, and I don't have to be near anyone I piss off). But the feeling of powerlessness is really very hard to deal with sometimes. I (like many on slashdot) am a liberal, and when I see things like the "Nuclear option" threaten to happen in congress, it scares me. When the party that won the last election 51% to 49% now sees fit to force its policy onto 100% of the country, and when the democrats stand up and say "Hey, we've affirmed a lot of your nominees, but this one is just over the edge.", the party in power threatens to take their ball and go home if they don't get their way.
And I don't even understand everything that goes on in washington. I mean, I have my views: basically, I want peace, separation of church and state, and social progressivism, but it's really hard to find someone on the hill that believes the same things I believe in that's not an asshole.
I dunno, I always see people saying "If you're unhappy with the government, vote! Get involved!". But what happens when you really do vote, and nothing happens. What happens when you're part of the 49% and yet it feels like no agenda you support is ever taken into consideration, much less acted upon. Plus, I'm so damn busy working 50+ hours a week and taking care of the 1 year old so that maybe someday my wife and I can close this gap between the haves and the havenots and maybe, just maybe, afford a house.
dude, chill. The housecall was just to test the capabilities of the virus pattern file (i regularly see trend micro catch things that norton doesn't even detect).
Zorn was also half of the duo "Zorn and Thorn" in Final Fantasy 9. They were the ones that dressed like jesters and one was always like "We will get Zidane" and the other was all "Get Zidane we will".
They eventually joined to make one monster that you beat with the help of Mog, and you got the ribbon.
Interestingly enough, did anyone else know that, in final fantasy III, at the part where Locke rescues Celes, and you're underneath South Figaro, there's a Ribbon in the 2nd basement, right underneath the 2nd treasure chest?!? I've been playing that game for 8 or so years, and I just found that out like 2 hours ago, by turning off the BGLAYER2 with the emulator (oh, shut up, I've purchased the game legally twice, once new and once from funland).
Seriously, it's the only one i ever recomend to corporate customers. You can test their scanner by going to housecall.trendmicro.com. They release new pattern files as soon as they have them (none of the "wait till official release tuesday" shit like symantec) - and they release more than one a day if need be.
It seems to me that the next logical step in this would be to compress then tar, as opposed to what I (we?) do now, which is tar then compress (tar -cvf archive.tar directory ; gzip -9 archive.tar).
Would it make more sense to gzip directory/*, then tar archive.tar directory? Because, correct me if I'm wrong, tar is just sticking files together, end to end, with descriptors at the beginning and end of the files... that should allow for relatively simple extraction.
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good point, my bad.
ort.
When the Geforce 6800GT came out, it was $500. Now, it's $450.
And that was 6 months time.
Look, if you can't add anything constructive, just shut up. If you're not playing 3d games made in the past 3 years, or you're just surfing the web / writing spreadsheets, you can get by just fine with the "intel extreme graphics" that comes on the motherboard.
Some people play games, and some people want to have good framerates. If you're not one of them, then STFU. Go play zork.
~Wx
First, it says on the label, which is clearly visible, that the maximum is not 35A times 12V = 420 Watts, but 324 Watts.
Not to mention, I'd like to see anyone get 35 Amps out of a standard home or commercial outlet. Most houses in the US are wired with 14guage wire, and are designed to handle 15A comfortably, which is usually the size of the breaker. Commercial outlets usually are 20 amps, using 12guage wire.
If anything in your computer used 35 amps, it would require a dryer-type NEMA plug and a dedicated circuit.
~Wx
why should anyone be allowed to have a personal duplicate of Michael Jackson at home.
Indeed.
Hah! I remember appleworks. We had it on a 5 1/4 floppy for our Apple IIgs. It had a lot of forward-thinking options at the time, like ascii interpretations of folders, and an option to print to disk (for text files, so I could write my applesoft basic in appleworks rather than in the included "editor", which consisted of cat the program, break where you want to edit, and escape up into the program).
Wow. Blast from the past.
~Will
On one hand, it really irritated me to discover that the app I downloaded (for testing purposes only!) would also install spyware.
It's not just apps - I downloaded a family guy episode, unrared it, and it was an executable. 170 megs of executable, so it was probably the spyware piggybacked onto the data that was the video, but still.
I mean, I know better, and I almost clicked it. Since the only thing I download anymore is video files, I'm used to them being clean, and I'm used to sites not posting contaminated video files. If the icon hadn't been different, I may have clicked.
~Wil
I guess it's time to switch to china inf, then.
But, china inf is for n00bs.
Not only that, I was looking there just earlier today, and I thought "What a crock" when I saw the advertisement for the new batman movie (sorry, i meant "informative article"). Howstuffworks used to be useful, but I searched there today for the word roulette (was wondering if they had an article on how a roulette wheel is constructed - commercial ones are like $4000), and I got 300 "paid ads" that weren't even in the paid ads section.
howstuffworks is useless now. Just another website where advertising has replaced content.
~Will
Besides, I tend to make up my own encryption scheme for truly sensitive pictu^H^H^H^H^Hdocuments and then just delete the method.
Dude, if you encrypt your pr0n with a proprietary, undocumented encryption, you're either wearing enough tin-foil to build an aircraft, or you're into some really wierd shit I don't wanna know about.
not to mention, isn't it telling of the state of things that there's a project called "the fedora legacy project" when fedora is only 1.5 years old?
Sounds like abandonment to me.
Not redhat.
There's still a guy out there releasing homebrew service packs for windows 95, but it's not sanctioned by microsoft and not guaranteed to work. Same thing here.
Hell, there are support groups for commodore64.
~Will
Standard Edition costs $299 for the version that you're quoting comprehensive support for. And that's the workstation version, not the server version. Also, that's $299 per year. With the $180/year version, you only get 30 days installation support. Compare to Windows XP Pro, which costs $180 Retail, one time charge.
For $350 (per year), you get RHEL "Basic Server", which comes with only 30 days of installation support. If you want to jump up to one with better support, it's $800 per year, and if you want 1 hour response, it's $2400 per year.
I'm not making this up, seriously.
http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/compare/serve
http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/compare/clien
I appreciate your being nice here, and trying to point by point me, but I'd like to rebut quickly.
I said "not very profitable", I didn't say "not profitable". They were selling books, cd's, tshirts, and support contracts, and they were making enough money to pay salaries and bandwidth costs. And that should have been enough. They don't need to be a billion dollar a year company (in my opinion).
You also point out "use whatever fits your needs" several times, and I do. I use another linux distro (gentoo) on my server, mainly because I like the package manager. But, it continues to boggle the mind how people can use fedora for professional environments and servers.
As far as "you get what you pay for", I would say that goes to be more true for CEO's and CTO's perceptions than it is in real life. A lot of people get the "you get what you pay for" confused with "If it costs a lot of money, it must be good", and I see a lot of people falling into that mode of thought with RHEL.
That's all. To admit my bias, I was working for a company that had about 60 servers running RH7.3 and RH9 when they announced they were end-of-lifing it after it had been out for 6 months, and I had to deal with now learning debian and figuring out ways to either migrate my customers or whatever. It was a major pain in the ass.
~Will
Troll. Kettle. Pot. Black.
As someone who used redhat through 6.0, 7.0, and 7.1 in a professional capacity, as well as all of the rest of them since 1999, I can tell you that you either have no idea what you're talking about, or you're trolling.
7.1 was a perfectly stable release. It was tested before it was released, and it functioned excellently. As did 7.2. But if you've been using redhat, and you think that RedHat 8 didn't suck, you need to have your head reexamined. Versions of software weren't compatible in the release (for example, it included the newest greatest versions of both mod_perl, and php, neither of which were compatible with apache2.0 at the time, which was included). It was pretty much everything from 7.3, brought up to the latest version available, with no regard for what worked with what other programs.
Also: Redhat had a good business releasing a product for free and selling support and physical media. They weren't terribly profitable, but whatever, they were a good company. Now, their workstation costs $180 PER YEAR minimum. Their server costs $350 PER YEAR minimum. And they didn't even write the software! They just wrote a couple of shell scripts to configure shit for you, and released someone else's work. But, oh wait, fedora's free, and it's pretty good! Yeah, where's the support for it? When redhat 7.1/7.2 etc came out, you could count on several years of software updates for the included packages. Not now - you're lucky to get 6 months out of fedora. And if you need support for Fedora Core1 at this point, the answer is "Upgrade to FC3 or FC4". Well, whatever for your desktop, but for servers? You can't be telling people they need to upgrade their server every 6 months to get updates. And anyone who says Fedora isn't a testbed for Enterprise is delusional.
Come on, people. RedHat shot themselves in the foot. They can't even compete with *MICROSOFT* on price anymore, hell, when you buy 2003 server, you at least get 5 years (plus or minus) of updates included. When you buy Windows XP Pro, you get the same thing. Not to mention, both come with support (such as it is). RedHat doesn't even make a token effort. And if you can't compete with microsoft on pricing and/or support, what's the point? Before you say stability and security, I'd like to first point you to the BSD's, which are free, and better than redhat at both. Hell, solaris is cheaper than RedHat, and it's significantly more stable.
Once people let go of the redhat name, it will die off. It's coasting on name recognition at this point. But redhat's "paradigm shift" or whatever has done more negative for the professional linux community than anything I can ever think of.
~Will
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/net.periphs/m
I'd even go 1 further and suggest watching the "THX" version of the movies, and not the special editions or the DVD versions. I don't give a fuck about the remastered scene in Jaba's palace - I can't stand CGI for the sake of CGI, which is exactly what that was. It looked cool when they redid it, but even a year or two later, it looked dated and gay. I like puppets. CGI characters, no matter how much real physics ragdoll modeling you do, will never behave like real physical objects. See also: JarJar jumping and doing a backflip into the water in episode 1. Also, I want my kid to see Han Solo fire first. Period. Han solo is a smuggler and a scoundrel. He's not a hero or a saint - he saves his own ass. Plus, the remake looks unnatural.
~Will
I'd like to add: The Chronicles of Narnia.
I mean, it would make sense to start with The Magician's Nephew, and work your way to The Last Battle, but... it is somehow more fulfilling to read them in the order written.
I also wouldn't read the Silmarillion before The Lord of the Rings.
~Will
While it isn't a necesary part of life to own a TV, it is another example of the further separation of the lower and upper classes.
I just heard on the radio today that there are 2 million people in the US that are millionaires, not including the value of their homes - that's about 2.3%. And yet, with unemployment rising, cost of health care rising, and jobs not being created as fast as people are entering the work force... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
And now it extends to TV.
Not to mention 250 million people, slightly less than the 300 million or so in the U.S.
Here's another for you, courtesy of country joe and the fish:
Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Vietnam
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Well, come on generals, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Gotta go out and get those reds --
The only good commie is the one who's dead
And you know that peace can only be won
When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come.
Well, come on Wall Street, don't move slow,
Why man, this is war au-go-go.
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the Army with the tools of the trade,
Just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
They drop it on the Viet Cong.
Well, come on mothers throughout the land,
Pack your boys off to Vietnam.
Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
Send 'em off before it's too late.
Be the first one on your block
To have your boy come home in a box.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
the upshot is that you have a fairly large minority are very upset about the seeming inability of many voters to grasp the underlying issues, and to understand that the reasoning given for this kind of stuff (to protect the homeland!) is horseshit, smoke & mirrors and is dooming much that the US stands for.
I have to admit, I do feel powerless in the USA. I don't talk politics anymore, because I'm afraid I'll piss someone off, due to it being such a divisive issue (but, hey, this is online, and I don't have to be near anyone I piss off). But the feeling of powerlessness is really very hard to deal with sometimes. I (like many on slashdot) am a liberal, and when I see things like the "Nuclear option" threaten to happen in congress, it scares me. When the party that won the last election 51% to 49% now sees fit to force its policy onto 100% of the country, and when the democrats stand up and say "Hey, we've affirmed a lot of your nominees, but this one is just over the edge.", the party in power threatens to take their ball and go home if they don't get their way.
And I don't even understand everything that goes on in washington. I mean, I have my views: basically, I want peace, separation of church and state, and social progressivism, but it's really hard to find someone on the hill that believes the same things I believe in that's not an asshole.
I dunno, I always see people saying "If you're unhappy with the government, vote! Get involved!". But what happens when you really do vote, and nothing happens. What happens when you're part of the 49% and yet it feels like no agenda you support is ever taken into consideration, much less acted upon. Plus, I'm so damn busy working 50+ hours a week and taking care of the 1 year old so that maybe someday my wife and I can close this gap between the haves and the havenots and maybe, just maybe, afford a house.
~Will
dude, chill. The housecall was just to test the capabilities of the virus pattern file (i regularly see trend micro catch things that norton doesn't even detect).
TM's corporate product is excellent.
Zorn was also half of the duo "Zorn and Thorn" in Final Fantasy 9. They were the ones that dressed like jesters and one was always like "We will get Zidane" and the other was all "Get Zidane we will".
They eventually joined to make one monster that you beat with the help of Mog, and you got the ribbon.
Interestingly enough, did anyone else know that, in final fantasy III, at the part where Locke rescues Celes, and you're underneath South Figaro, there's a Ribbon in the 2nd basement, right underneath the 2nd treasure chest?!? I've been playing that game for 8 or so years, and I just found that out like 2 hours ago, by turning off the BGLAYER2 with the emulator (oh, shut up, I've purchased the game legally twice, once new and once from funland).
~Will
Might I suggest Trend Micro.
Seriously, it's the only one i ever recomend to corporate customers. You can test their scanner by going to housecall.trendmicro.com. They release new pattern files as soon as they have them (none of the "wait till official release tuesday" shit like symantec) - and they release more than one a day if need be.
It seems to me that the next logical step in this would be to compress then tar, as opposed to what I (we?) do now, which is tar then compress (tar -cvf archive.tar directory ; gzip -9 archive.tar).
Would it make more sense to gzip directory/*, then tar archive.tar directory? Because, correct me if I'm wrong, tar is just sticking files together, end to end, with descriptors at the beginning and end of the files... that should allow for relatively simple extraction.