Not many people know how to write documents that survive re-paginations (eg, changing margins, paper size, moving from portrait to landscape), exporting to another format, etc. I still wonder if those who attended basic wordprocessor courses are being taught to use the right feature to achieve what was desired.
I used WordPerfect 5.1 long ago and it has trained me well on using the correct code (seen under reveal code) or features for the things I want. Like using Indent at the beginning of a paragragh (for indenting a paragraph), rather than using multiple [Tabs] at the beginning of all lines in a paragraph. Or, a Hard Page Break (still rememver it's Ctrl-Enter) to force a new page rather than multiple Hard Returns (to create empty lines to push text down the next page).
Once a person learns to use the correct feature, his document is definitely more robust and can withstand major reformatting.
If I have mod points, I'll mod you up. Many people say Notes (and its GUI) sucks because they don't understand what really Notes/Domino is. And Notes is getting prettier by the version. I believe many still subconsciously use Notes 4.5 GUI to compare to Outlook 2003 GUI...
It's tough, but I admire Novell for its "never say die" attitude. Novell needs to convert its technical strength and what they have to sales... We all know that you don't need a superior product to sell... But when almost everywhere is already running Windows, it just won't be easy.
Well, there's this chinese saying (literally) "know yourself, know your enemy, win all the battles you fight". So, what MS is really doing is nothing new.
I think Linux has no problems penetrating further in the server space. However, Windows is slowly becoming like Unix, what with better command shells, scripts, use of XML as config for IIS. Maybe one day, the whole registry is one big XML file.
On the other hand, as a end-user workstation, Linux really needs something, to the extent of an Aqua-equivalent, a very consistent, across-the-board graphical interface. Current KDE or Gnome desktops still falls short. (Yeah, I know there are many different distributions, and that's the whole point of open source and Linux. But better consistency is needed for mass adoption. How about, as a start, a common menu structure across different distributions?)
Can't RTFA, 'cos problem loading. anyway, probably he's right. It goes to show that OSS needs a solid (or at least a pleasant, workable) collaboration client to counter Exchange/Outlook/Office. Too many corporate users are stuck with this combination (except those on Lotus Domino/Notes).
Well, to me, there is nothing new MS has done this year. Nothing innovative. Resurrection of IE with tabs? Folding RSS into Windows/IE? MS has always been doing so with technologies or stuff created/innovated by others (and problem is, they usually do it fairly well). Office 12 XML to ECMA? Well, they needed an answer to ODF. Windows Live? I don't know. Is it yet another portal?
precisely. i have to go to the blender web site to find out what it's all about. background information is important when posting about some obscure software (or anything, for that matter).
how do you really count number of patches? microsoft sometimes combine multiple vulnerabilities into 1 patch. so, naturally, microsoft patches tend to be fewer than linux ones.
there can't really be reports that are objective. a person will prefer one over the other, and somehow be biased against windows or linux. when he or she writes a report, it will skew towards his own liking. MS will say good things about windows, and Novell will say so for Linux. who do you trust? the best is yourself and your experiences.
Office is now a System, more than Office as in word processing + spreadsheet + presentation. M$ is turning Office into collaboration software to compete with Lotus Notes.
So, if they support ODF, they will say, "hey, ODF can't do your collaboration needs. Stay with.doc,.xls, and.ppt".
We have lots of desktops and windows managers, like KDE, Gnome, Xfce, fluxbox and what-have-you. But I think one thing lacking is a common theme, menu structure, and windows behaviour, independent of the distro. And make that the default one for newbies. For advanced/adventurous users, they can change to what they like.
the preference is no more "simple and intuitive" like firefox 1.0.x. there is no "clear all" in the privacy tab. it's now more complicated, much like the original mozilla suite....
5) still have to meddle with.conf files. not good enough for normal users
4) slow. it used to be that one argument for linux and against windows is that linux is faster, but not anymore, it seems. on my old pc, winxp is clearly faster than linux (with kde/gnome) of any distro. response in graphical linux is not snappy enough.
3) fonts. either it's fat and anti-aliased or skinny and aliased. in other words, it's plain ugly compared to windows.
2) desktops (kde & gnome) and menus are still crude. as much as i hate windows, i find the xp interface is nicer than kde and gnome. their windows, toolbars and buttons are proportionately sized by default. you don't get dialog boxes shooting beyond the bottom of screen. and normal users tend not to know where to find what in the menus.
1) no equivalent _and_ compatible applications. especially outlook. i can overlook this outlook thingy, but many many people cannot.
No way. Ubuntu still not ready. I tried to install on an old computer. screen resolution set to 600x480 (i am not an old man), need to manually re-configure the x11 config files; can't play video with totem, then uninstall and re-install with totem using another engine, now can play video, but no sound. still troubleshooting... and the overall feeling is that it's seems slow.
Agree. And if you turn on LDAP on Domino directory, and use LDAP for lookups, etc, by other applications, it's not all that bad compared to Active Directory. And no matter what other people say, I believe Domino is still king of collaboration/workflow. Exchange cannot even compare a tiny bit.
And whenever people say Lotus interface sucks compared to outlook, I think they never really used R5 or ND6 before. I miss Lotus Notes and my tabs in R5 badly, now that my new workplace is using Outlook/Exchange.
sony could have determined its own release date of ps3 if there is no xbox 360 (or xbox in the first place). m$ cannot be underestimated though its products are usually buggy and not the best.
the problem of having 2 mighty forces in the console market is that both of them must play catch up to each other, and if one declared that it will ship a major product soon, the other cannot just sit still and let it pass.
the ps3's current estimated timing of a few months after xbox 360's end 05 release is just nice, i thought. anything longer might give m$ a huge window to enlarge its installed base. and i do not want to see this happening. m$ is too entrenched in many markets, and console is not what i want to see m$ to be top in.
yes, i noticed this too. what is ie7 doing with this? horrible.
does it mean that in future, all applications in vista will have the (back, forward, address bar, search bar) combo at the top of every window? and then the menu in between this combo and the actual workspace? if it's so, this is sickening. a step backward in UI design.
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I'm not sure, but I think only IBM still uses SmartSuite. Anyone care to enlighten?
Isn't MS Outlook using MS Word as editor too? The whole MS Office is somewhat embedded in the Windows OS, so to speak....
Not many people know how to write documents that survive re-paginations (eg, changing margins, paper size, moving from portrait to landscape), exporting to another format, etc. I still wonder if those who attended basic wordprocessor courses are being taught to use the right feature to achieve what was desired.
I used WordPerfect 5.1 long ago and it has trained me well on using the correct code (seen under reveal code) or features for the things I want. Like using Indent at the beginning of a paragragh (for indenting a paragraph), rather than using multiple [Tabs] at the beginning of all lines in a paragraph. Or, a Hard Page Break (still rememver it's Ctrl-Enter) to force a new page rather than multiple Hard Returns (to create empty lines to push text down the next page).
Once a person learns to use the correct feature, his document is definitely more robust and can withstand major reformatting.
If I have mod points, I'll mod you up. Many people say Notes (and its GUI) sucks because they don't understand what really Notes/Domino is. And Notes is getting prettier by the version. I believe many still subconsciously use Notes 4.5 GUI to compare to Outlook 2003 GUI...
It's tough, but I admire Novell for its "never say die" attitude. Novell needs to convert its technical strength and what they have to sales... We all know that you don't need a superior product to sell... But when almost everywhere is already running Windows, it just won't be easy.
Well, there's this chinese saying (literally) "know yourself, know your enemy, win all the battles you fight". So, what MS is really doing is nothing new.
I think Linux has no problems penetrating further in the server space. However, Windows is slowly becoming like Unix, what with better command shells, scripts, use of XML as config for IIS. Maybe one day, the whole registry is one big XML file.
On the other hand, as a end-user workstation, Linux really needs something, to the extent of an Aqua-equivalent, a very consistent, across-the-board graphical interface. Current KDE or Gnome desktops still falls short. (Yeah, I know there are many different distributions, and that's the whole point of open source and Linux. But better consistency is needed for mass adoption. How about, as a start, a common menu structure across different distributions?)
Can't RTFA, 'cos problem loading. anyway, probably he's right. It goes to show that OSS needs a solid (or at least a pleasant, workable) collaboration client to counter Exchange/Outlook/Office. Too many corporate users are stuck with this combination (except those on Lotus Domino/Notes).
Well, to me, there is nothing new MS has done this year. Nothing innovative. Resurrection of IE with tabs? Folding RSS into Windows/IE? MS has always been doing so with technologies or stuff created/innovated by others (and problem is, they usually do it fairly well). Office 12 XML to ECMA? Well, they needed an answer to ODF. Windows Live? I don't know. Is it yet another portal?
precisely. i have to go to the blender web site to find out what it's all about. background information is important when posting about some obscure software (or anything, for that matter).
how do you really count number of patches? microsoft sometimes combine multiple vulnerabilities into 1 patch. so, naturally, microsoft patches tend to be fewer than linux ones.
there can't really be reports that are objective. a person will prefer one over the other, and somehow be biased against windows or linux. when he or she writes a report, it will skew towards his own liking. MS will say good things about windows, and Novell will say so for Linux. who do you trust? the best is yourself and your experiences.
I didn't read the release notes, or anything.
Has RC3 and Adblock fix it?
do we not have enough portals already? how is live.com different from start.com?
isn't that the purpose of the built-in filters? i suppose you mean some command line tools or simple gui to mass-convert documents to ODF?
we have yahoo mail, with yahoo.com. why not google dish out google.com addresses instead?
Office is now a System, more than Office as in word processing + spreadsheet + presentation. M$ is turning Office into collaboration software to compete with Lotus Notes.
.doc, .xls, and .ppt".
So, if they support ODF, they will say, "hey, ODF can't do your collaboration needs. Stay with
I did not RTFA.
We have lots of desktops and windows managers, like KDE, Gnome, Xfce, fluxbox and what-have-you. But I think one thing lacking is a common theme, menu structure, and windows behaviour, independent of the distro. And make that the default one for newbies. For advanced/adventurous users, they can change to what they like.
the preference is no more "simple and intuitive" like firefox 1.0.x. there is no "clear all" in the privacy tab. it's now more complicated, much like the original mozilla suite....
5) still have to meddle with .conf files. not good enough for normal users
4) slow. it used to be that one argument for linux and against windows is that linux is faster, but not anymore, it seems. on my old pc, winxp is clearly faster than linux (with kde/gnome) of any distro. response in graphical linux is not snappy enough.
3) fonts. either it's fat and anti-aliased or skinny and aliased. in other words, it's plain ugly compared to windows.
2) desktops (kde & gnome) and menus are still crude. as much as i hate windows, i find the xp interface is nicer than kde and gnome. their windows, toolbars and buttons are proportionately sized by default. you don't get dialog boxes shooting beyond the bottom of screen. and normal users tend not to know where to find what in the menus.
1) no equivalent _and_ compatible applications. especially outlook. i can overlook this outlook thingy, but many many people cannot.
No way. Ubuntu still not ready. I tried to install on an old computer. screen resolution set to 600x480 (i am not an old man), need to manually re-configure the x11 config files; can't play video with totem, then uninstall and re-install with totem using another engine, now can play video, but no sound. still troubleshooting... and the overall feeling is that it's seems slow.
Agree. And if you turn on LDAP on Domino directory, and use LDAP for lookups, etc, by other applications, it's not all that bad compared to Active Directory. And no matter what other people say, I believe Domino is still king of collaboration/workflow. Exchange cannot even compare a tiny bit.
And whenever people say Lotus interface sucks compared to outlook, I think they never really used R5 or ND6 before. I miss Lotus Notes and my tabs in R5 badly, now that my new workplace is using Outlook/Exchange.
sony could have determined its own release date of ps3 if there is no xbox 360 (or xbox in the first place). m$ cannot be underestimated though its products are usually buggy and not the best.
the problem of having 2 mighty forces in the console market is that both of them must play catch up to each other, and if one declared that it will ship a major product soon, the other cannot just sit still and let it pass.
the ps3's current estimated timing of a few months after xbox 360's end 05 release is just nice, i thought. anything longer might give m$ a huge window to enlarge its installed base. and i do not want to see this happening. m$ is too entrenched in many markets, and console is not what i want to see m$ to be top in.
yes, i noticed this too. what is ie7 doing with this? horrible.
does it mean that in future, all applications in vista will have the (back, forward, address bar, search bar) combo at the top of every window? and then the menu in between this combo and the actual workspace? if it's so, this is sickening. a step backward in UI design.
enough said.
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