I see this as a troll, but it still needs to be addressed.
How the heck did this get modded to 5? It's offtopic, and trollish. While I don't disagree that this story is not exactly the most important thing in the world, these sorts of things have been listed on/. for quite a while now. I'm a geek, and I was interested in the article.
If you're not interested then ignore it, don't gripe to everybody else that you don't care.
although you'd have to be a really sleazy person to argue it
Unfortunately, because it would only take one person, the chances of this happening is almost certain. In fact, this has been happening in pr0n for years, just not in this context.
There needs to be a way to fully protect children from the evils of the 'Net without hindering consenting adults as it were. Myself, I'm a proponent of having a pr0n top level domain that parents could just block or something like that. That makes it easy for parents, and easy for the pr0n industry and their clients. The only catch to all this is that the government would need to place restrictions on where and how the sites could be blocked.
A tough line to draw, as it always has been and will continue to be in this arena.
Wow. You got to hand it to Gateway. This call took some serious courage to make. The days of reprisals from M$ for not using their software are probably over, but it still is impressive to be the first big player to take advantage of it.
I just hope it pays off for them in being able to sell their computers for enough less that people buy more of them!
The PDF for the study is hosted on IBM's website... I'd be willing to bet that it was IBM that commissioned the study. Anybody know?
**begin sarcasm** What a big suprise that would be if a study funded by IBM finds that their Linux solutions perform better than Windows and Sun! **end sarcasm**
That said, it is nice to have some pro-Linux FUD out there!;-)
People get fat from eating too much. Cities get more prosperous from having more people be able to get there. Businesses can hire better people becuase the traffic doesn't stress them out. People are more apt to move in and help out the businesses in the city.
Now the question of whether the capacity of the new system will outweigh the demand is another matter, but the more people that are able to easily make it into the city the better.
Speaking of misguided, it's not terribly wise to open a message describing your beliefs with an insult if you expect anything good to come out of it. I agree with everything you said, (except maybe the "something in return" part.. that's deceiving because the "something" may not show up in this world but rather the one to come) but I don't agree with your tone.
I understand your point. I, too, think sometimes memorials can be overdone. There's one thing to remember here. Even though you were one of the ones most directly affected, you are not alone. Everyone in the country was affected by the loss of innocence that results from being attacked for the first time on the soil of the contiguous states. Thousands of people lost family members. Millions (probably) lost friends and neighbors and co-workers. That kind of pain does not go away lightly.
There are always going to be jerks who try to profit off the emotions of others. Live with it. That doesn't mean that the memorials are worthless. It's a milestone for us to examine how the event changed us and decide if we like what we find.
It is measurable, it's just that we as the created can't do it. How do ya like them apples?:-)
Seriously though, the Bible says (Romans 8:28) "And we know that God works all things out for the good of those who love Him."
Now, the question is, who defines what "the good of those who love him" looks like. Obviously, it's God who is working it out, so God gets to pick. Now, the One Thing that God wants from us once we believe is for us to love each other in the same way that God loves us, that He gave His life up to save us. Therefore, the good that he's working out is for us to learn to love each other better. (If it didn't have the wrong connotation you could say that God wants us to be better lovers!:-D)
I think that's exactly what he's saying is that in retrospect they should have placed more emphasis on security at a management level for a long time. That sentiment is actually a Good Thing (tm) IMHO. Perhaps now they get it.
I agree. I mean listen to what the man said for God's sake:
"I'm not proud," he told delegates yesterday (5 September). "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security," admitted Valentine, who since 1998 has headed Microsoft's Windows division.
Come on. This sounds a whole lot like a guy who was given an albatross (DOS) and was told to build an eagle (something remotely secure) from it. He just hasn't been able to do all the things that would need to be done because there's too much because they're saddled with the fact that they didn't realize when they started how important it would be.
Jeez. I know this is Slashdot, but give the guy a break!
Don't you think that if they had *anything* of value that the stockholders wouldn't want to fold the company? Don't you think that code that they could sell as a product would be of great value to them? If they can't sell it, what makes you think that it would have any value under the GPL?
I wasn't imagining this as RAM, but ROM. Just from a quick calcuation (not trying to be amazingly accurate), I was able to determine that a CD or DVD sized disk could hold about 708 TB! Imagine being able to back up that much data on such a small area! Who cares if it has to be in a vacuum. That's a boatload of data storage.
For RAM, I think your right. Once you can make a NAND gate and put them together the right way to make RAM, that's the future. However, if they could make a drive based on this technology, there are still many many practical applications.
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You know what, you're right. Just not as right as you might think. Anytime a new language comes around, people try to use it for everything. Witness Java. When Java came out it was crowned the Best Thing Since Sliced Bread(tm), and everybody tried to use it for *everything*. Well, guess what. It didn't work that well in all those apps. Java found a niche and lives on quite well.
Perl is in the same position. It's coming of age. People are realizing what it's good for and what it's not. Perl is NOT IN ANY WAY like COBOL. COBOL is an anachronism that stays around because of inertia. Perl is a language that is just going through growing pains.
While I applaud LW's ideas for Perl 6, I'm not sure that I would make such wholesale changes. There are going to be LOTS of people that stay on 5.x because they don't want to port, which may cause a maintenance nightmare.
I said:
However with the volume of "free" users that
BK will gain from this, it will be in their best interest to serve the community well if for no other reason than the SQA they'll get out of it.
ryants replied:
What the hell does this mean? They owe absolutely nothing to the "free" class of users.
My point is that a big source of bug reports is valuable to them. Why would you intentionally alienate a large base of users who are basically forced to test the newest version?
That *is* something to be concerned about. It's just not a good enough reason to reject it out of hand. However with the volume of "free" users that BK will gain from this, it will be in their best interest to serve the community well if for no other reason than the SQA they'll get out of it.:)
It's not this concern that worries me. It's the idea that the idea of using BK should be disregarded out of hand because BK is not totally free that seems like throwing what might be the baby out with the bathwater.
You're absolutely correct. It probably should be named GNU/Linux. My only point is that the name Linux is already accepted, and it's really hard to change the terminology midstream.
RMS marginalizes himself by looking like a whiner in this regard IMHO.
I'm not trolling. Perhaps that generalization was too sweeping. Yet, how does that stated view of commercial software jibe with his beligerent response to the idea of Linus using BitKeeper? Linux was running into difficulties due to the lack of a scalable source code control system. I would think that a decision (that wasn't RMS's to make) that makes it easier for Linux to develop as a free entity does not deserve this nasty response from RMS.
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I see this as a troll, but it still needs to be addressed.
/. for quite a while now. I'm a geek, and I was interested in the article.
How the heck did this get modded to 5? It's offtopic, and trollish. While I don't disagree that this story is not exactly the most important thing in the world, these sorts of things have been listed on
If you're not interested then ignore it, don't gripe to everybody else that you don't care.
Ben
I find it funny that your web link is nakedpicc.com, and you stand against porn! Not that it's a porn site, but I just found that funny.
:)
Maybe no one else will, but I did.
Ben
although you'd have to be a really sleazy person to argue it
Unfortunately, because it would only take one person, the chances of this happening is almost certain. In fact, this has been happening in pr0n for years, just not in this context.
There needs to be a way to fully protect children from the evils of the 'Net without hindering consenting adults as it were. Myself, I'm a proponent of having a pr0n top level domain that parents could just block or something like that. That makes it easy for parents, and easy for the pr0n industry and their clients. The only catch to all this is that the government would need to place restrictions on where and how the sites could be blocked.
A tough line to draw, as it always has been and will continue to be in this arena.
Ben
and that too without an MBA from Harward.
Apparently you don't have an MBA from Harvard either!
Just kidding!
Ben
I'm more worried about the obscene phone calls that could be possible now! :)
Ben
Heh. I'll take that as a compliment! :-D
Ben
Wow. You got to hand it to Gateway. This call took some serious courage to make. The days of reprisals from M$ for not using their software are probably over, but it still is impressive to be the first big player to take advantage of it.
I just hope it pays off for them in being able to sell their computers for enough less that people buy more of them!
Ben
The PDF for the study is hosted on IBM's website... I'd be willing to bet that it was IBM that commissioned the study. Anybody know?
;-)
**begin sarcasm**
What a big suprise that would be if a study funded by IBM finds that their Linux solutions perform better than Windows and Sun!
**end sarcasm**
That said, it is nice to have some pro-Linux FUD out there!
Ben
Funny comment, but the analogy don't work.
People get fat from eating too much. Cities get more prosperous from having more people be able to get there. Businesses can hire better people becuase the traffic doesn't stress them out. People are more apt to move in and help out the businesses in the city.
Now the question of whether the capacity of the new system will outweigh the demand is another matter, but the more people that are able to easily make it into the city the better.
Ben
Speaking of misguided, it's not terribly wise to open a message describing your beliefs with an insult if you expect anything good to come out of it. I agree with everything you said, (except maybe the "something in return" part.. that's deceiving because the "something" may not show up in this world but rather the one to come) but I don't agree with your tone.
Ben
His only non-MP producing credit is the classic Time Bandits! :)
I understand your point. I, too, think sometimes memorials can be overdone. There's one thing to remember here. Even though you were one of the ones most directly affected, you are not alone. Everyone in the country was affected by the loss of innocence that results from being attacked for the first time on the soil of the contiguous states. Thousands of people lost family members. Millions (probably) lost friends and neighbors and co-workers. That kind of pain does not go away lightly.
There are always going to be jerks who try to profit off the emotions of others. Live with it. That doesn't mean that the memorials are worthless. It's a milestone for us to examine how the event changed us and decide if we like what we find.
Ben
Total dead horses fragged: 5793
Ben
How about this:
:-)
:-D)
It is measurable, it's just that we as the created can't do it. How do ya like them apples?
Seriously though, the Bible says (Romans 8:28) "And we know that God works all things out for the good of those who love Him."
Now, the question is, who defines what "the good of those who love him" looks like. Obviously, it's God who is working it out, so God gets to pick. Now, the One Thing that God wants from us once we believe is for us to love each other in the same way that God loves us, that He gave His life up to save us. Therefore, the good that he's working out is for us to learn to love each other better. (If it didn't have the wrong connotation you could say that God wants us to be better lovers!
Ben
I think that's exactly what he's saying is that in retrospect they should have placed more emphasis on security at a management level for a long time. That sentiment is actually a Good Thing (tm) IMHO. Perhaps now they get it.
Maybe.
Ben
I agree. I mean listen to what the man said for God's sake:
"I'm not proud," he told delegates yesterday (5 September). "We really haven't done everything we could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security," admitted Valentine, who since 1998 has headed Microsoft's Windows division.
Come on. This sounds a whole lot like a guy who was given an albatross (DOS) and was told to build an eagle (something remotely secure) from it. He just hasn't been able to do all the things that would need to be done because there's too much because they're saddled with the fact that they didn't realize when they started how important it would be.
Jeez. I know this is Slashdot, but give the guy a break!
Ben
Would I still be able to seem my screen with my peril sensitive sunglasses on?
It doesn't matter because you can't touch that!
Don't you think that if they had *anything* of value that the stockholders wouldn't want to fold the company? Don't you think that code that they could sell as a product would be of great value to them? If they can't sell it, what makes you think that it would have any value under the GPL?
I wasn't imagining this as RAM, but ROM. Just from a quick calcuation (not trying to be amazingly accurate), I was able to determine that a CD or DVD sized disk could hold about 708 TB! Imagine being able to back up that much data on such a small area! Who cares if it has to be in a vacuum. That's a boatload of data storage.
For RAM, I think your right. Once you can make a NAND gate and put them together the right way to make RAM, that's the future. However, if they could make a drive based on this technology, there are still many many practical applications.
You know what, you're right. Just not as right as you might think. Anytime a new language comes around, people try to use it for everything. Witness Java. When Java came out it was crowned the Best Thing Since Sliced Bread(tm), and everybody tried to use it for *everything*. Well, guess what. It didn't work that well in all those apps. Java found a niche and lives on quite well.
Perl is in the same position. It's coming of age. People are realizing what it's good for and what it's not. Perl is NOT IN ANY WAY like COBOL. COBOL is an anachronism that stays around because of inertia. Perl is a language that is just going through growing pains.
While I applaud LW's ideas for Perl 6, I'm not sure that I would make such wholesale changes. There are going to be LOTS of people that stay on 5.x because they don't want to port, which may cause a maintenance nightmare.
Ben
I said:
However with the volume of "free" users that BK will gain from this, it will be in their best interest to serve the community well if for no other reason than the SQA they'll get out of it.
ryants replied:
What the hell does this mean? They owe absolutely nothing to the "free" class of users.
My point is that a big source of bug reports is valuable to them. Why would you intentionally alienate a large base of users who are basically forced to test the newest version?
Ben
That *is* something to be concerned about. It's just not a good enough reason to reject it out of hand. However with the volume of "free" users that BK will gain from this, it will be in their best interest to serve the community well if for no other reason than the SQA they'll get out of it. :)
It's not this concern that worries me. It's the idea that the idea of using BK should be disregarded out of hand because BK is not totally free that seems like throwing what might be the baby out with the bathwater.
Ben
You're absolutely correct. It probably should be named GNU/Linux. My only point is that the name Linux is already accepted, and it's really hard to change the terminology midstream.
RMS marginalizes himself by looking like a whiner in this regard IMHO.
I'm not trolling. Perhaps that generalization was too sweeping. Yet, how does that stated view of commercial software jibe with his beligerent response to the idea of Linus using BitKeeper? Linux was running into difficulties due to the lack of a scalable source code control system. I would think that a decision (that wasn't RMS's to make) that makes it easier for Linux to develop as a free entity does not deserve this nasty response from RMS.
Ben