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Polarized Screens to Hide Sensitive Data

NiugMan writes "NewScientist.com reports that Iizuka Denki Kogyo, a Tokio-based tech company has developed a monitor which appears to be blank if you stare at it with your eyes. Only by wearing a pair of polarised glasses you see stuff on it. The idea is to protect sensitive data from unauthorised personnel. Please take your special glasses with you when you take a coffee-break."

264 comments

  1. I heard this on the radio this morning by kartiknarayan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    slashdot's getting slooooowww...

    (Yes, I do listen to the news on the radio) :)

    1. Re:I heard this on the radio this morning by MaxVlast · · Score: 1

      Crazy right-wing nut.

      Slow enough that I've seen such things for years. My dad was looking into things like that at least three or four years ago.

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  2. And if someone has two sets of 'special' glasses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Then what? Nice idea, too bad it's been done for the past 10 years.

  3. A godsend for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...porn at work.

  4. Tokio? by jmu1 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Yeah, um... I'd like to go to Tokio.
    I hope thay surv eyes-creem. Maybee evin sooshee.

    1. Re:Tokio? by ch-chuck · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      er, you might like this site

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    2. Re:Tokio? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In some languages, that is correct. Both are just approximations, in any case.

      Just like Osama bin Laden vs. Usama bin Ladin.

      Or witness how Russian names vary in spelling.

    3. Re:Tokio? by Tsu-na-mi · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's not. Tokyo is pronounced Toh-Kyoh (2 syllables), not Toh-kee-oh (3 syllables). Tokio is simply wrong.

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    4. Re:Tokio? by ShadeEagle · · Score: 1

      I think they meant the MUSIC GROUP Tokio, who sings the opening theme to the "Kodomo no Omocha" anime ;-p

  5. Quick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Someone warn these guys before they are locked away for selling hacking tools.

  6. card trick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always suspected that magicians use that trick from long ago; the back of the cards shows polarized patterns, then ose one of some clever tricks to catch it; the reflection, contact lenses, I don't know...

  7. Seems kind of silly... by lorian69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It can be defeated with 3-d glasses?

    How about normal, polarized sunglasses and someone who can rotate their head?

    Me thinks someone spent too much on research for this one.

    1. Re:Seems kind of silly... by Shimbo · · Score: 5, Funny
      How about normal, polarized sunglasses and someone who can rotate their head?


      Head rotation devices will become illegal under the DMCA. I mean, looking away during the commercial break on is the same as stealing, right?

    2. Re:Seems kind of silly... by JTFritz · · Score: 4, Funny
      Does this mean that I need to use my red-lens and blue-lens 3d glasses from the '70s to program?

      And people thought we looked like dorks before...

    3. Re:Seems kind of silly... by vrt3 · · Score: 1
      Head rotation devices will become illegal under the DMCA.

      Let's hope they forget to include monitor rotation devices!!

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    4. Re:Seems kind of silly... by athlon02 · · Score: 1
      Me thinks someone spent too much on research for this one.

      Very much agreed... what a waste of money. But, if they're willing to waste money on that, maybe they'd want to invest say ~$3500 for my last semester of computer engineering courses, so they can "research" how an average EE student performs work. Maybe they'd want to take transportation and commuting costs into account and pay off my car too ;)

  8. What sort of lenses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I suppose the type lenses you need to view the screen is kept secret? Once somebody figures out what type of lens to use, this little security through obscurity exercise is over. Did they ever consider what would happen if someone used a camera with the right kind of lens? I'm sure this will sell big though.

  9. exhorbiant cost? by tanveer1979 · · Score: 1

    These are way to expensive. The cost of polarized system is too high and is certainly not justified. If this thing is not patented and many companies jump into it we hay see monitors and glassed for about 500$ hitting the market.

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    1. Re:exhorbiant cost? by ClayJar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      > The cost of polarized system is too high
      > and is certainly not justified.

      Actually, all LCD monitors *already* have the capability built in. The way they work is by using the polarization of light. All you have to do to make one of these "secure" panels that can only be viewed through polarized glasses is *remove* the polarizing film from the monitor.

      Put simply, it should not be much more expensive to *leave out* part of the panel, eh?

    2. Re:exhorbiant cost? by EasyTarget · · Score: 1

      The cost of polarized system is too high

      Which proves why posting is best done -after- reading the article. This is achieved by removing the polarising screen from a otherwise normal LCD. It can possibly be made cheaper than than a normal LCD.. though low volumes will doubtless result in a higher cost overall.

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    3. Re:exhorbiant cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think like a PHB for a minute. "Security", technology and a chance to walk around the office in dark glasses - all they need to do is add a paragraph about how it would help hide shadey finances and these will be flying off the shelves regardless of price.

    4. Re:exhorbiant cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Run a 11 inch cardboard strip around the face of the monitor to limit viewing and over your shoulder viewing. cost - forty cents.

    5. Re:exhorbiant cost? by aberson · · Score: 1
      As was posted, there were services at least 5 years ago that you could send your laptop to and they would do this for you. But here's something a little cooler.

      Uses shutter glasses, but instead of displaying alternate Left/Right images and alternating which lens is blocked for 3D, it opens and closes both lenses in sync and displays the image you want to see when they are open and the NEGATIVE of the image when they are closed. You just see your image a little dimmer, everyone else just sees a grey blur. Also can be used to display the difference between your image and another (when the lenses are closed) so that people without glasses see an entirely distinct image.

      I "came up" with this idea about 3 months ago, probably because I had read about it previously.

  10. Be careful though... by Canis · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...if you go outside with the glasses and start checking out the billboards, you might be in for a bit of a surprise.

    OBEY!
    CONSUME!
    MARRY AND REPRODUCE!

    (also, remember to stock up on bubblegum)

    1. Re:Be careful though... by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      OBEY!
      CONSUME!
      MARRY AND REPRODUCE!
      Remember the good ol' pre-W days when those messages were still subliminal, and you could almost pretend you had a good government?

    2. Re:Be careful though... by ajs · · Score: 2

      Why do all the Slashdot headlines suddenly say, "THIS IS YOUR GOD"? :-)

      I guess it's better than all my money saying "COWBOYNEAL"....

    3. Re:Be careful though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about you, but I'M ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!

      That movie is one of the best ever. Any movie from which a Duke Nukem quote was taken is awesome.

    4. Re:Be careful though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I vaguely remember reading a short story in like, 5th grade that was a lot like that movie - anybody?

    5. Re:Be careful though... by alexpage · · Score: 1

      You shouldn't go looking... remember, If you can't see the fnords, they can't eat you!

  11. Old News by IRNI · · Score: 1

    I saw this on a site in 1998. Or some similar technology. I thought it would be a neat idea but it is kind of odd to see it brought up like it is news today, 4 years later.

    1. Re:Old News by Yuke!Yuke!Marina · · Score: 1

      I am pretty sure modifying laptop screens like this was marked as a service by some company in the early 90's. It was advertised as allowing you to work on sensitive business information on an airplane without the passenger next to you reading it. Sorry, I can't provide a citation. I never saw this in action, so maybe it didn't work well.

    2. Re:Old News by Keefesis · · Score: 2

      I remeber this technology as well. I believe it was being pushed in laptops at the time. The goal was to block nosy people behind or aside you on an airplane or park bench. Perhaps they're banking on a post-9/11 paranoid public to embrace their unappealing technology the second time around?

    3. Re:Old News by DFX · · Score: 1

      Actually I did this many years ago, as a small kid in school. Must have been around 1994 or so. Not with a laptop of course, but with one of those tiny (crappy) pocket computers. It could display one line of text on a lcd display and could be programmed in some variant of basic. It was a "sharp" if I remember correctly.

      Anyway, my friend had one of those too, and we both took out the polarisation sheet from the lcd display and kept it somewhere in our pocket. We could write messages on the display, and nobody but us could see it. It was completely useless, but sorta fun. The polarisation sheet was small enough that it could be hidden in your hand and used without anyone noticing. Nobody understood what was going on (not that anyone really cared of course).

      Memories...

    4. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      was on /. too

      remembered reading it.

  12. I can see it now... by NineNine · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Why in the hell is my computer always turned off when I get back from taking a leak?"

    "I don't know, Bob. I had to look at it for something, it was off, and I tried to turn it on, but all that happened was that "power" light turned off."

    Yeah. Brilliant idea.

    1. Re:I can see it now... by Myco · · Score: 2

      RTFA. The screen doesn't look off if you're not wearing the glasses, it looks pure white.

    2. Re:I can see it now... by NineNine · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      OK...

      "Damn it! Why is it that every time I come back from the bathroom, my computer is off?"

      "Bob, I noticed your computer had crashed. The screen was all white, so I turned it off for ya'. You may want to get those IT dorks to take a look at it."

      Still... brilliant.

    3. Re:I can see it now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about your users, but mine probably can't distinguish between a screen that is completely black and one that is completely white. They are both just "blank".

      God, I wish I was kidding.

    4. Re:I can see it now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that the screen is pure white when it's off as well, in this configuration. The only difference is the presence/absence of the backlight.

      This is really nothing new, I did this to an old 486 laptop back mid-90s. Just peel the sticky black layer from the screen, get some fishing glasses, and volia. Didn't even have to tilt your head, like many people are posting.

  13. Spy Tech by mustangdavis · · Score: 1

    Can't you get a pair of those glasses at your local Toys 'R' Us? I think they come with Spy Tech, or some sort of kids spy kit ....

  14. same old, same old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Security by Polarized Glasses

    I'm still waiting for my X-Ray glasses I ordered in the 70's.

  15. Sounds to me by buzy+buzy · · Score: 1

    that this will only be used by people in the finance dept of companies. (I know there was is a case in security e.g. CIA but face it: if a spy comes into the building to get info it's all the easire to shoot him..

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  16. Perversions of Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In 21st century eyes are no longer the windows of the soul. They are a cheap authorization method.

    So when this whole polarized screen idea goes mainstream, complimenting a female on her eyes will no longer mean anything. It's like complimenting someone on their plastic security card. ooooh sexy!

  17. Put it to some use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "To others, you would look like someone with sunglasses working in front of a totally white screen,"
    They needn't know that I'm actually wearing sunglasses, *sleeping* in front of a totally white screen, then.

    1. Re:Put it to some use by saskboy · · Score: 1

      Where I was working there is a concern with privacy of data. These monitors would be a huge pain, and not add too much to security. About all it would help with is on a bus or plane where others around you wouldn't be able to go find the decoding glasses.

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  18. Taking it one step further... by Peeing+Calvin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Would it be possible for the glasses to be polarized with a private key, and have the monitor polarize with the corresponding public key?

    1. Re:Taking it one step further... by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 1

      Polarization doesn't really work that way; if you had anything other than very thin straight vertical lines as the polarization pattern, it wouldn't work.

      You might get away with different degrees of polarization, like the different frequencies you can pick up on your radio, but that's about it.

      This tech isn't very secure, but it's much better than nothing, and it would be kind of obvious that you were snooping if you're standing head on to someone else's monitor wearing big black glasses.

    2. Re:Taking it one step further... by kubrick · · Score: 2

      I was wondering about that... maybe some sort of weird trick with light wavelengths and changing frequencies? But then you might need some sort of powered glasses to decode, which clashes with my other idea, to whit:

      What about polarized contact lenses? :)

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    3. Re:Taking it one step further... by Idarubicin · · Score: 3, Interesting
      What about polarized contact lenses? :)

      Smiley or not, that's actually a brilliant idea, that would render all of those sixteen hundred dollar and up monitors (for just 15"--sheesh) useless from a security standpoint.

      Wearing polarizing sunglasses and tilting your head would be very conspicuous, to say the least. But polarizing contact lenses would work perfectly in this application. (This 'application' being the misappropriation of sensitive information.) It's not a trivial task to prepare them, but it's certainly not out of reach of a person of above average competence. If a person has naturally dark-coloured eyes, the added shading from the polarizers wouldn't even be apparent.

      Need a quick and dirty solution? Look at the reflection of the monitor in a piece of plate glass. A blank acetate sheet will do in a pinch. Reflection off of a clear material will separate the two orthogonal polarization states of light if you adjust your viewing angle correctly. Sure, the information will be backwards, but if you're just feeling a bit nosy, it's no problem. And it doesn't look like you're looking at the screen in that case.

      You want to protect sensitive information? Put it behind a wall.

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    4. Re:Taking it one step further... by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: 1

      You want to protect sensitive information? Put it behind a wall.

      Just not good enough ...

    5. Re:Taking it one step further... by bari · · Score: 1

      Polarized contact lenses really wouldn't work. Since they're not rigidly mounted you can't keep them from rotating in your eye. Polarization is very rotation-sensitive (that's about all there is to it, really), so you'd probably end up holding your head at a very weird angle to see anything.

    6. Re:Taking it one step further... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dang, you are stupid.

    7. Re:Taking it one step further... by shyster · · Score: 2
      Polarized contact lenses really wouldn't work. Since they're not rigidly mounted you can't keep them from rotating in your eye. Polarization is very rotation-sensitive (that's about all there is to it, really), so you'd probably end up holding your head at a very weird angle to see anything.

      Gas permeable lenses (aka hard contacts), as well as some of the newer toric (?) lenses for astigmatism don't rotate in the eye. Though the hard contacts are uncomfortable, and the torics are pricey....

    8. Re:Taking it one step further... by FlexAgain · · Score: 1
      But polarizing contact lenses would work perfectly in this application.

      ...and for added sneakiness, if you don't know which way the screen is polarised, set up one eye to be polarised vertically and the other horizontally, then just close the eye which does not apply (ok, you could complicate things with various different angles, but horizontal or vertical seems the most likely scenarios).

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    9. Re:Taking it one step further... by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 2

      No.

    10. Re:Taking it one step further... by douglips · · Score: 1

      How do you keep a contact lens from rotating in place? Seems to me you'd have a hard time controling the polarization axis and end up tilting your head anyway.

    11. Re:Taking it one step further... by Carnivore · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, I think that polarised contacts would make you ill... I don't wear contacts, but I imagine that they rotate on your eyes when worn. This would make the angle of polarisation different for each eye--you would see different stuff in your left eye than in your right, and our brains don't like that a whole lot.

      The best solution would be to have clear polarisers on normal-looking glasses, but add a mechanism to rotate the filters.

    12. Re:Taking it one step further... by Idarubicin · · Score: 2
      How do you keep a contact lens from rotating in place? Seems to me you'd have a hard time controling the polarization axis and end up tilting your head anyway.

      Relatively recently, toric contact lenses have come on the market. They're designed for people with astigmatism, and to maintain lens orientation they're slightly weighted towards one edge.

      And of course the polarization axis doesn't have to be bang on anyway to see something on one of these screens. If you'll settle for light gray rather than really black text, then you can have the polarization axis off by quite a bit.

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    13. Re:Taking it one step further... by sg3000 · · Score: 2

      > Gas permeable lenses (aka hard contacts), as well as
      > some of the newer toric (?) lenses for astigmatism
      > don't rotate in the eye. Though the hard contacts are
      > uncomfortable, and the torics are pricey...

      The toric lenses would work. I have them for astigmatism in my right eye, though I don't have to have them for the left. So I buy a box of toric and a box of regular. There's about a $10 difference in price, so it's not too expensive.

      The problem with toric lenses is it takes about 30 minutes for them to "settle" after you put them in (they have to rotate to the regular position and then want to be that way until you take them out). So things look kind of blurry for the first few minutes until the lenses rotate to the right angle.

      So if you had polarized contact lenses to you with your computer, you have a ready-made excuse for goofing off the first 30 minutes you're at work. Then make it a habit to rub your eyes, pretend the lens fell out, and give yourself another 30 minutes!

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    14. Re:Taking it one step further... by Idarubicin · · Score: 2
      The best solution would be to have clear polarisers on normal-looking glasses, but add a mechanism to rotate the filters.

      Such sunglasses do exist, and are sold over-the-counter already. Light specularly reflected from water (or any medium with an index of refraction greater than air) will come back at least partially polarized. Sailors like to eliminate the glare off water for comfort; fishers like to be able to see the trout. In both cases, polarizing sunglasses are a simple solution.

      Unfortunately, by their nature, linear polarizers are always going to look 'dark' under normal illumination, because by default they automatically soak up 1/2 of the unpolarized light that passes through them. So they wouldn't be nearly so inconspicuous as polarizing contact lenses.

      Unfortunately, I think that polarised contacts would make you ill... I don't wear contacts, but I imagine that they rotate on your eyes when worn. This would make the angle of polarisation different for each eye--you would see different stuff in your left eye than in your right, and our brains don't like that a whole lot.

      Believe it or not, it's actually pretty amazing what they eye can get used to. My mother knows people who have eyesight bad enough to require bifocals, but their vanity demands contact lenses. The solution? Lens for left eye is calibrated for close work; right lens is focused for distance vision. The brain 'learns' how to deal with the arrangement in a few days, and thereafter can handle the switch between 'mismatch' contact lenses and bifocals very rapidly. Some people do get headaches with the odd lens pairing, but apparently most people don't have any trouble.

      Also, seeing a different linear polarization in each eye shouldn't bother you at all. Some techniques for displaying colour 3D movies rely on viewers wearing a polarizer over each eye--one polarizer's pass axis is perpendicular to the other. The camera projects the image for (say) your left eye vertically polarized, and the image for the right horizontally polarized.

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    15. Re:Taking it one step further... by lommer · · Score: 1

      a farady cage wall.

  19. And this is new how? by red_dragon · · Score: 2

    I remember IBM selling Thinkpads (amongst other manufacturers) with such screens back around 1995 or so. One of the suggested purposes was for using the computer on a plane, so that people behind you wouldn't be able to see what you're looking at. However, anyone who really needs to spy on someone using one of these computers would only have to go to a camera shoppe and buy a telephoto lens with a polarising filter.

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    1. Re:And this is new how? by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      That was just marketing trying to compensate for their crappy LCD screens, where you had to be sitting at exactly the right angle to be able to see them!

  20. Possibly could be used for 3D displays by mericet · · Score: 1
    If they can overlay two images with different polarization. That would be much cooler, and actually useful.

    Or even cooler, if they couldoverlay a non polorized image, you could have subtitles or annotations on a image, if you put on the proper glasses.

    1. Re:Possibly could be used for 3D displays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is already being done. www.stereographics.com

  21. I seem to recall... by The+Mainframe · · Score: 1

    Many many (from my 18 year old standpoint) years ago, I recall having read about this same technology being used in laptops for paranoid business users. I don't remember the company or the product, but I recall it being touted as a great thing for people traveling coach. I don't see how this is so great, seeing as they just removed the polarization layer from the LCD and put it in some glasses. Won't any set of polarized glasses work? Hell, I've got some Oakleys that'll penetrate that security.
    That's why I only talk to my computer with the numlock light and the spacebar. Morse code all the way, man!

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    1. Re:I seem to recall... by thorgil · · Score: 1

      did the same thing on my graph calculator a few years ago.
      i could save any cheats .... exam guards were still not able to find them...

      muhuhahahah

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    2. Re:I seem to recall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Care to give details on how you did that? =)

  22. Camera filter by kris · · Score: 2

    Of course, anybody with a proper camera may be able to take photographs from your screen.

    Most people with expensive camera equipment add a polarizing filter to their glassware in order to protect the lens. The filter will kill some nasty reflections and improve colors, and is much cheaper to replace than the actual unprotected lens should it become scratched.

    1. Re:Camera filter by MImeKillEr · · Score: 1

      Hell, my Oakleys are Polarized. Why would I need a camera with a filter when I can sport my sunglasses and simply read the screen? A lot less conspicuous than running around with a camera in a 'secure' area.

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    2. Re:Camera filter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Photographers don't use polarizing filters to protect their lenses. They use *UV* filters - way cheaper and no visible artifacts on the image.

      If you used a polarizing filter for every shot the results would be pretty surreal to say the least!

      Polarizers are normally used to increase color saturation (think travel brouchure beach shots with deep blue skys and girls in bright yellow bikinis ;).

      They are quite expensive for the larger sizes and because they use *two* layers of glass (so one can be rotated agains the other to adjust the polarization effect), they take the edge of lens performance.

  23. Star Trek technology coming true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A monitor protects against enemy attacks with a polarized hull, whatever next!

  24. Security by Doodleman3 · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Now you have to find a way so that your data can't show up on a normal monitor and you've got an effective defence, Aganst at least the low end script kiddie type hacker that has trouble affording pricy hardware upgrades.

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  25. wow AMAZING!!!!! Brand New! by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    Funny how we had these at General Dynamics back in 1989 on our Wyse 55 terminals. you wore these funky old-people (tm) style lightly tinted sunglasses to see the screen.. it was for really basic security to stop the casual passer-by.. I remember figuring out the polarization angle needed to get a decent looking pair of glasses made for myself so I didnt look as geeky as the rest of the people there using those 5 terminals.

    Really old tech... and as secure as a wet paper bag.

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  26. Laptop security screens by psyconaut · · Score: 1

    I've seen those polarized screens for laptops that reduce the LCDs viewable angle so that people on planes etc. can't shoulder-surf....but this concept is a just a bit extreme!

    I mean, who works in highly sensitive areas *AND* needs to hide the data on the screen that badly?

    And if you truly do need "for your eyes only", what about some sort of HMD (Head Mounted Display)?

    (Anyone remember those PC Private Eye devices? They used an oscillating mirror and an LED array to "paint" a text screen in the users field of vision.)

    -psyco

    1. Re:Laptop security screens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you have bene able to buy HMD's for years and years now... the M-1 is available for dirt (although at a worthless resolution... and the M-2 is useable but horribly overpriced.

      search google for the keywords m1 or m2 and wearable and HMD...

  27. Heh by Mr_Silver · · Score: 1, Redundant
    What a great way to surf for porn without anyone knowing.

    Of course, to others it'll look like you're enjoying Planning_Budget_2002.xls a little too much ...

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    1. Re:Heh by crystalplague · · Score: 2

      I gave up caring. I now watch dvd length pornos fullscreen on a laptop on a plane with small children sitting next to me. They don't mind so much as the stewardesses. They won't say anything to you but you get some strange looks and probably some spit in your food. Good thing the food is already inedible.

  28. Re:Good opportunities for pr0n in the workplace by RebelTycoon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    probably not!

  29. Duh . . . by Ezubaric · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kuhn adds that an opaque shielding device might be simpler way to obstruct prying eyes.

    I wonder if he has a patent on this idea. Wouldn't it just be better to have people in, I dunno, offices? You could control entry via special security signatures know as "keys," which would be small metal devices small enough to fit into your hand. Access to data would be protected by an "opaque shielding device" called a wall.

    I'll take my consulting check now, please.

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    1. Re:Duh . . . by seann · · Score: 1

      usualy meant for when you use your laptop in an air port, or on a train. in public at Tim Hortons, etc etc.
      read about this half a decade ago when I was in grade 8 in popular mechanics

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    2. Re:Duh . . . by dattaway · · Score: 2

      Look at the hidden advantages of this: it will hide the user's sleepy eyeballs. This will allow them to be more productive as they can work in their sleep. The caffeine induced finger spams on the keyboard will have everyone fooled as it appears they are focused on producing better code.

  30. Effective ? Nah by XPulga · · Score: 4, Informative
    First, if you're leaving for a coffee break, you should lock your terminal, which will prevent others from seeing your screen contents while you're out anyway.

    Second, how many different polarizations are there ? Last time I studied optics, one pair of glasses will work on any of these monitors (maybe needing some rotation/tilting). Unless you can assure polarizing glasses will always be bright red so you recognize "people with bright red glasses coming near my computer", and you can't assure that - it's quite easy to make polarizing lenses - the protection is senseless.

    I can hardly wait until some company buys monitors and glasses to all their employees and then put several monitors in the same room, all people with polarizing glasses, making the whole buy futile. (Hmm, ok, will prevent the floor sweeper from reading your screen. Great.)

    1. Re:Effective ? Nah by ajs · · Score: 2

      Heh... "lock your terminal" is an interesting idea. I've been meaning to get around to re-tooling xscreensaver for a long time so that all of the hacks that display your desktop can be overridden with a flag that you can pass an image to. That way xscreensaver can be turned on in "no, use this image instead" mode.

      There are other hack attributes that should be centrally controlable like this, but xscreensaver has always wanted to maintain a very hands-off approach to the hacks.

    2. Re:Effective ? Nah by XPulga · · Score: 2

      KDE's X lock (don't ask me what it uses, I only use KDE at some university labs) already blanks the screen.

    3. Re:Effective ? Nah by gotan · · Score: 1

      I use a blank screen for my screensaver anyway. I don't see any sense in a screensaver that wastes cycles on something that nobody will watch for more than a few seconds. But then i worked in an university lab where old MIPS-workstations were used to run jobs 24/7. Also i find screensavers to be distracting.

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    4. Re:Effective ? Nah by vrt3 · · Score: 1
      Second, how many different polarizations are there?

      There are more kinds, circular for example. It means the electric field is rotating, either clockwise or counterclockwise. Eric Weisstein's World of Physics also mentions elliptic polarization.

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    5. Re:Effective ? Nah by azadrozny · · Score: 1
      I would have to aggree. There is no good replacement for strong physical security. If something is so super secret, don't work on it out in the open. I use an access card to gain entry to my work space. When we have visitors, we simply lock out our screens. Generally we do not give "random" people access to our work stations. I think wide spread use of these could give workers a false sense of security.

      On the other hand, this is a very cool technology and I am sure there are some instances where they could be used on a limited basis. One use could be in the lobby of an office building. It would allow security guards to check a visitors or employees access records without showing the whole screen. I am sure the U.S. Gov't could also find some uses for these as well.

    6. Re:Effective ? Nah by numatrix · · Score: 1

      Xscreensaver already does this. It's exactly how I have my screensaver set up at work.

      Run xscreensaver-demo, flip to the Advanced tab, under Image Manipulation, change from Grab Desktop Images to either Grab Video Frames (if you have a video feed; webcam, tv card, etc), or Choose Random Image otherwise.

      I have a nice selection of whacky images from my trip to China last summer constantly being rotated, blitted, and distorted when I lock my machine.

    7. Re:Effective ? Nah by expro · · Score: 1
      The security of this approach is so shallow, that even in the lobby of an office building it is arguably worse than relying on other techniques.

      I walk into the building with polarized glasses or contacts or something and can see everything that they would have normally taken measures to hide behind some sort of desk and not kept displayed on a screen for long.

    8. Re:Effective ? Nah by ajs · · Score: 2

      Cool. I must have missed this in the config file. I'll go back and look.

  31. Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet someone just forgot to put the top polarizing filter on the display, cause in principle that is all there is to making these "special" screens. You see the backlight, modified only in direction of polarization. Add the final filter right in front of the eyes and the screen is complete again. Note that the story says that without the special glasses the screen is "blank", not black.

  32. There's a stronger way to do it by joshtimmons · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As others have pointed out, polarizing filters are so common that there's no security here.

    It's like locking your house with a skeleton key.

    Why not insert noisy frames between real ones and just synchronize the glasses so that they filter out the garbage frames? Why not just have the screen in the glasses?

    1. Re:There's a stronger way to do it by Lonath · · Score: 3, Funny

      As others have pointed out, polarizing filters are so common that there's no security here.

      Kind of how like ROT-13 decryptors are so common that there's no reason to send someone for jail for breaking the 31337 ROT-13 encryption on your valuable copyrighted digital content?

      Give it up. Polarizing filters are now terrorist Weapons of Mass IP Destruction.

    2. Re:There's a stronger way to do it by joesknnr · · Score: 1

      Having immersive glasses splitting the screen in each lens is obviously the most private solution.

      As for security, the technology will perhaps develop where ultra secure wi-fi workstations communicate with a chip in each user, identifying the users dna fingerprint to authorize access (only for the highest security operations, of course).

      The bio/organic/nano-tech chip - I'm no engineer - would communicate with the computer using extremely close range wi-fi similar to bluetooth, updating the system with a user's vital signs. Nobody wants their system hacked by a corpse with cameras in their eye sockets!

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    3. Re:There's a stronger way to do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not insert noisy frames between real ones and just synchronize the glasses so that they filter out the garbage frames? Why not just have the screen in the glasses?

      I can see the helpdesk call now. 'User has migrane. P-glasses may need resynch.'

    4. Re:There's a stronger way to do it by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 2

      As others have pointed out, polarizing filters are so common that there's no security here.

      It's not really about security.

      It's like locking your house with a skeleton key.

      Or like closing the door on your cube and not locking it. Sure, someone can open it, but if they do so it's noticible.

      Why not insert noisy frames between real ones and just synchronize the glasses so that they filter out the garbage frames? Why not just have the screen in the glasses?

      Expense.

  33. Laptops on airplanes... by ClayJar · · Score: 3, Informative

    I read about this a long, long time ago (I can't remember when, but it is on the order of years). It was a mod that a company was selling for business people's laptops. They'd strip off the polarizing film from the laptop's LCD panel, and then you could only see what was on the screen through polarizing glasses.

    I'm not sure whether the glasses required were vertically polarized of horizontally polarized. If they were vertically polarized, anyone with a pair of sunglasses could quite easily read the screen (but wouldn't you look odd wearing sunglasses on a plane while staring at a business person's apparently blank laptop screen).

    On the other hand, if the required glasses were horizontally polarized, you'd have to rotate the sunglass lenses 90 degrees (which, since most sunglass lenses do not posess rotational symmetry, would mean you either would have a serious mod coming, or else you'd just have to tip your head 90 degrees... Actually, this might just work, but only if you were pretending to sleep and laying your head on the business person's shoulder, and that's likely to just make them upset. ;)

    1. Re:Laptops on airplanes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Solution: Polarising contact lenses. Yes, they are available, yes they are expensive and relatively uncomfortable (as expensive as contact lenses to correct other orientation-sensitive eye things like astigmatism, and the cost of polarising filters made out of rather exotic material - they are all "hard" lenses)

      Pretty cooly, if you were to wear a h-polarised one in one eye, and a v-polarised one in the other, your brains would fairly quickly be able to "see" polarisation. Yes, this has been done.

    2. Re:Laptops on airplanes... by pos · · Score: 2

      I actually saw this company at a computer fair and tried it. The laptop monitor looked gray without the clear glasses. They were pitching the product as a solution for people who fly often.

      They would modify your laptop for you in a couple of days and ship it back to you with the glasses. I was always a little weary of sending them a laptop to modify. I don't know what they would do if they broke it. The nice feature was that they would also include a polarizing screen that clipped to the front of the display in case you diddn't want to use the glasses.

      I always wondered what happened to that company.

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  34. This may cover my eyes... by Mattygfunk1 · · Score: 1

    ...but I will have to train myself to stop ducking, weaving, and saying "gotcha" before this will truly bring counter-strike to my cube.

  35. Try It At Home by Automatic+Jed · · Score: 1

    I remember doing something similar about 15 years ago at home. Take an old calculator apart, and remove the polarization layer (it looks like a thin sheet of clear plastic over the top of the display). Just hold the filter in front of your eyes to see the digits on the calculator. Voila, you now have a super-secret calculator that you check how badly your 401k is tanking.

    1. Re:Try It At Home by Eccles · · Score: 1

      Voila, you now have a super-secret calculator that you check how badly your 401k is tanking.

      I think most of us will prefer to do that *without* the glasses on...

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    2. Re:Try It At Home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hi, i'm doing a project on this computer thing, and i'm having trouble finding info on it. could you help me out in any way. you seemed to know what you were talking about. if you do want to help me you could write another message here and i will check for it tommorow.
      thanks!

    3. Re:Try It At Home by Automatic+Jed · · Score: 1

      Sure, let me know what questions you have. I just used an old calculator, and it was pretty self-evident.

    4. Re:Try It At Home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, i actually just need info on the polarized screen computer product. I can't find any info about it. what is the actual name of the product, because i don't even know what to search for.
      so, i guess if you know anything about the computer thing that you could pass on to me it would be greatly appreciated!
      thanks

  36. Useless by Myco · · Score: 2

    This is such a useless security measure. It can be defeated by anyone wearing polarized lenses, and such lenses are worn innocuously all the time so you couldn't accuse someone of spying just for wearing them. And what scenario is this supposed to be useful for? An environment where the display is visible to untrusted viewers -- public places, mostly. In an office you get better security by locking the doors. But in a public place you have no control over who wears sunglasses, so anyone who wants to see the screen can easily do so. It's just stupid.

  37. It's just too perfect! by rocjoe71 · · Score: 1

    With one of those babies on my desk and a set of headphones my boss will never know when I'm playing Icewind Dale II ;o)

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  38. You don't even need glasses ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... a reflection in e.g. a window is already polarised (that's the reason why in photography your can remove reflections using a differently oriented filter).

    So in a plane, don't stare at the display of the guy next to you, stare at the reflections in the window and he won't even notice, that you are reading his display.

  39. er, what about.. by digitalsushi · · Score: 2

    what about that white van that's always outside? can they still see it, too? (hi guys! there's a pizza special down the street today!)

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  40. van eck phreaking by ideonode · · Score: 1

    I wonder whether this obscurity through polarisation will assist in defending onself against Van Eck Phreaking?

  41. gouging the public, can we patent it? by HerringFlavoredFowl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just love the cost of these monitors ...

    Um, put a polarizing filter on the monitor, add a simple 90 degress polarized light source to the front of the monitor (translucent sheet) put on your polarized glasses and you are set.

    Sounds like bad security practices to me ...

    Btw. The gentle fisher folks have been using polarized sunglasses for spotting trout for years ...

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    1. Re:gouging the public, can we patent it? by Patrick · · Score: 2
      I just love the cost of these monitors ...

      Um, put a polarizing filter on the monitor, add a simple 90 degress polarized light source to the front of the monitor (translucent sheet) put on your polarized glasses and you are set.

      Simpler than that. Normal LCD monitors use liquid crystals between two polarizing filters. So this nifty new secure monitor is just a normal LCD monitor without the front polarizing filter. It's less monitor, for five times the cost.

  42. so THAT's how you do it by dknight · · Score: 1

    with your EYES. Geeze, and all this time I thought I was supposed to be staring at it with my left foot.

  43. Um, guys...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This made Popular Mechanics in 1995 it's not really news.

  44. Universal password by C0deJunkie · · Score: 1

    You're right!
    Wearing just a pair of polarised glasses turns the question to: find the right angle for your head to look at the data!
    Maybe after the carpal tunnel we'll see another kind of "professional illness"

  45. Sounds like... by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Sounds like my laptop (VAIO) screen. Certain colors are only visible while tilting the screen at extreme angles, which makes other colors less visible. Not sure I'd call it an invention, more of a discovery.

    In particular, if you have a 505tx, or similar laptop, download CCS (the c64 emulator) and play M.U.L.E. and try to find the mountains. There's a way to change color settings, but It's not high on my priority list, yet, to figure out.

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  46. HIPAA by andori · · Score: 1

    Can anyone say HIPAA compliance... There is a section of HIPAA that specifies the safegarding of information being displayed on screen in places like clinics and hospitals. The concern is that this information can be overseen by people walking past the user's monitor.

  47. Will it decode to fake messages? by SanLouBlues · · Score: 2

    Will people see believable, but wrong data if they tilt their head wrong? Will every workstation have a different 'correct' polarized plane? If they did display bogus data on bad planes, how would the government worker know if he saw the bogus data or the stuff he was supposed to be working on?

  48. not using computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to hide 'sensitive' data, works even better.
    begone are the good old days of mass office shredder parties .. ohh well.

  49. How about goggles instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An Eye trek might work out cheaper.

  50. portables. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would be PERFECT for laptops ... especially with the LCD's viewable-angles getting bigger.

  51. Old old OLD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen these advertised in mags close to ten years ago. This is not a new development. The technology is as old as polarized glass.

  52. Nobody can read it except fishermen by Astrorunner · · Score: 2

    ...and people with those polarized driving glasses, I imagine.

    I suspect it would work, but it's just a hunch.

  53. Re: DMCA by arikb · · Score: 1

    If you had made those glasses today, you would have been in violation of the DMCA, for creating a circumvention device.

    This security device would work ONLY in the US, where the law abiding citizens wouldn't dream of circumventing it. (and maybe EU soon). I wonder why it was reinvented in Tokio of all places.

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  54. 3-D? by xee · · Score: 2

    If the screen could alternate between two different polarizations, which the glasses have lenses for (one on each eye), then this could be used for 3-D imaging. All we have to do is call the glasses "goggles" and we might as well be in Snow Crash.

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    1. Re:3-D? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is already done with shutter glasses. No need for the polarization. The problem is that the monitor must run at 120Hz just to appear at 60Hz. A better thing would be a monitor that could display different data at different polarizations simultaneously. Then people could see 'true' 3D without getting eye-strain after just 5 minutes.

    2. Re:3-D? by xee · · Score: 2

      Hmmm, could that be done by doubling the resolution of the screen and polarizing every other pixel in sync?

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  55. still no good... by leifb · · Score: 1

    ...against tempest scanning, though.

    1. Re:still no good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tempest works so well because of the high voltages used in a CRT to produce the image. Since this mod deals with an LCD, where the only high voltage is for the backlight, I doubt you'd have a problem. (unless you cared about anyone being able to detect if your backlight was on or not)

  56. Obvious question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    any pictures? :)

  57. Old shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blow me, this is SOOOOOO OLD. Jeeze, reminds me about the guy who suggested polarizing automobile head lamps to reduce glare. That was Zee Cafigliano, and where is he now?

  58. Blank Monitors by tjc0 · · Score: 1

    I quite like the idea of asking users on helplines if they are wearing their 'special glasses' when they complain about a blank screen.

    Just another thing to put them down with.

  59. A simpler way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    From the original article:

    Kuhn adds that an opaque shielding device might be simpler way to obstruct prying eyes.

    An opaque shielding device? What a brilliant idea! I shall patent it immediately.

  60. industrial espionage by v8interceptor · · Score: 1

    i'll bet they'll never think of polarized contacts for looking at polarized screens...

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    1. Re:industrial espionage by tjc0 · · Score: 1

      Suitible for anyone with rotating eye balls.

  61. Very old idea by cybermace5 · · Score: 2

    I remember, back in the PC boom when Gateway was running those ads in Computer Shopper soap-opera style, that someone came up with a similar idea.

    The laptop computer had just gotten usable (sort of), and business users were taking work on the road. Normally the cube jungle and office walls are fine to protect data from prying eyes, but laptop screens were a real concern.

    The solution was...a solution, which you wiped onto your laptop screen, intended to strip off the last polarizing layer. This last layer is what made sense of the supertwist LCD displays. The kit came with a pair of polarized glasses to prevent anyone else from seeing your screen; to them, it looked like a blank white display. Of course they addressed the issue of normal polarized sunglasses allowing circumvention...their glasses needed to be polarized at right angles to normal sunglass polarization. Of course this doesn't keep people with normal sunglasses from simply rotating the glasses, or their head, 90 degrees.

    I never saw the point. Once enough people have the glasses, it's just like having an open display again, except less convenient to use.

    There's a reason it never took off in the years since it was first invented.

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  62. GREAT! I can ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell my boss I am just about finished with that report he has been waiting for and continue to play quake.

  63. I've got my own way of keeping eyes away... by qurob · · Score: 1


    Just run 1600x1200 on a 17" monitor...anyone who looks at it gets an instant migraine!

  64. Wow... now this is secure ;) by forged · · Score: 2
    I couldn't believe reading through the article, and thinking "wait a minute, all that someone needs are a pair of polarizing glasses" .....and then I found the following hilarious quotes:

    • ...he warns that this security measure could be defeated by anyone who can get hold of a pair of correctly configured, light polarising glasses.

      ...simple 3D movie glasses could defeat the system. These have a horizontal polarising filter on one eye and a vertical filter on the other eye. "By tilting the head up to 45 degrees to either side and switching between both eyes, you can easily observe light at all polarisation angles".

    Price of the monitors: between $1600 and $2500.
    Price of polarizing glasses: $15.
    Everybody rotfl: priceless !

  65. Is each screen specific to a pair of glasses? by seldolivaw · · Score: 2

    Otherwise, as soon as you have two or more of these monitors, all the people with glasses that are authorized to see screen A will also be able to see everything on screen B. Which makes it kind of pointless, right?

  66. I've already got one by mmoncur · · Score: 1

    My monitor appears to be blank when I stare at it with my eyes. Perhaps I've purchased one of these new units by mistake?

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  67. news? by kennedy · · Score: 1

    how is this new? i'm sure i've seen 3rd party products for laptops and pdas that already do this.

  68. My circumvention device... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    xhost +
    telnet [IP of polarized screen machine]
    user: [userID]
    password: ********
    export DISPLAY="[localIP]:0.0"
    [super secret ap]


    There, I've gone and defeated the polarized monitor. I hope "export" and "setenv" (for all you tcsh fans) don't become DMCA circumvention devices.

    1. Re:My circumvention device... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, great, but first you have to find a machine that has 8 asterisks as password.

  69. From a banker's perspective... by Obiwan+Kenobi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Working in the IT Dept. of a bank, I can see how this could possibly appeal to the decision makers in the bank, and the industry at large.

    Privacy is big in banking. Bigger than big. There is nothing more important that people's money, and there are enough federal guidelines and regulations on the subject to choke a horse. People can argue about the importance of their kids, cars, and homes, but if a bank employee makes a mistake and suddenly your financial information is stolen or made public, you've got one hell of a lawsuit, and one severely ill person on your hands.

    While the technology does seem a bit silly in its inception, and beating this security measure is a moderately difficult at best, what security guard or bank personnel is not going to notice the strange looking individual with 3-D glasses on and a terrible case of tilting-head looking over the shoulder of a CSR or teller.

    Of course it's beatable, and of course it's not going to make sense in your average office environment. But I'll tell you right now that there is nothing better than this, that I can think of, that has come along in terms of blocking people from looking over the shoulder of bank employees. Sure there are vertical-blind-like shadded screens, where the information is only viewable when looking directly at the monitor (and we employ those as well), but this again is foilable by a person's mere position. If the employee gets up for coffee, a smoke, whatever, the information the screen is still viewable by anyone with a direct line of sight.

    This technology can prevent the average person from seeing what's on an employee's screen. The "average person" is about 95% of all bank customers. The "average person" won't really care how it works, won't want to know why it works, but I'll tell ya, the "average person" will feel a 100 times more confident in his/her financial institutions commitment to security and privacy when using this technology, even if it can be foiled by 3D-glasses or expensive shades.

    When you combine this technology with the common sense of "closing all applications when leaving your desk," a financial instutition's employee's desk becomes 10 times safer than it was originally, and that's a big step. I'm certain that the larger financial institutions out there (Citibank, et al) would be glad to show off the new technology and tout about its security, even if it can be foiled by the strange looking man wearing $3 3D glasses.

    1. Re:From a banker's perspective... by gotan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Once you figured out the correct angles you can make glasses such that it is unnecessary to tilt the head. Also you don't need to tilt the head in an exact angle, probably anything within 15-20 degree of the correct angle will do well enough. And there's already sunglasses out there with polarisation filters.

      If the person gets a cup of coffe it pretty damn better lock the screen. It's really sad to hear, that banking business not yet discovered the use of a screensaver/screenlock and sees a need to "close all applications" for a cigarette break.

      Also often the "average customer" might have a legitimate interest in the data that's displayed (maybe because it's his own data about what he's discussing with a bank employee) and he will feel a bit silly if he has to put on those funny looking glasses first. Let alone walking into a bank where half the employees (all that are working with computers) wear the same kind of geeky looking glasses.

      So let's conclude: This technology isn't secure against anyone who really wants the data from that screens, it only creates a false sense of security. At the same time it makes everyone in the bank (including the customers) look silly. Also there are already better ways to protect that information (screensavers, arranging displays such that customers normally can't see it, displays with a narrow viewing angle).

      Maybe privacy is big in banking, but i think it's more important to avoid looking silly.

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    2. Re:From a banker's perspective... by gorilla · · Score: 2
      But I'll tell you right now that there is nothing better than this, that I can think of, that has come along in terms of blocking people from looking over the shoulder of bank employees.

      Sure there is. You put the computer & the employee on the other side of the desk from the customer. This brings into play the non-x-ray effect, in that with the exception of Clark Kent, people can't see through the back of the monitor.

    3. Re:From a banker's perspective... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think like a manager for a second. I know, it's painful, but give it a shot. How many managers in your bank want their employees wearing sunglasses at work?

    4. Re:From a banker's perspective... by slcdb · · Score: 3, Interesting
      This technology can prevent the average person from seeing what's on an employee's screen.


      How does this "technology" find itself in a science magazine? When I was 10 years old I noticed that I could take the polarzing filter off of my school calculator's LCD screen, and make the numbers displayed invisible, unless viewed through the filter. As far as I know, most LCDs (like the ones on digital watches, etc.) can only be viewed if the polarizing filter is in place. This is not new technology. This is greedy people trying to sell something many people already have -- most just don't know they already have it. (Try it! Take apart any cheap digital watch or calculator -- it will have a polartization filter in front of the LCD that without which the numbers will be invisible!)

      While the technology does seem a bit silly in its inception, and beating this security measure is a moderately difficult at best, what security guard or bank personnel is not going to notice the strange looking individual with 3-D glasses on and a terrible case of tilting-head looking over the shoulder of a CSR or teller.


      The absolutely most ill-conceived approach to security is any kind of system that merely provides a layer of obfuscation. Why? Because it creates a false sense of security. This is mere obfuscation and nothing more. If I walk in to your bank wearing my driving sunglasses will the security guards have me arrested? Probably not. I wouldn't stand out at all -- yet my completely normal sunglasses would crack this so-called "technology". This is not secure. Secure means that NO ONE has the technological nor financial means to break the security system -- not even governments.

      Anyone can buy polarizing sunglasses very cheaply these days. I've seen pairs at the grocery store for about $12. Hell, you can even buy a polarzing filter for your camera for around $25. Anyone can view and take photographs of the information displayed on these screens with off-the-shelf products. I bet your bank's owners would be pretty damn upset if the new security system you recommended, and they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on, was foiled by a 10-year old with a $12 pair of glasses.

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    5. Re:From a banker's perspective... by FattMattP · · Score: 2
      Privacy is big in banking. Bigger than big.
      Oh? Then why were they so against the consumer privacy bill that just died in Congress. Oh! You mean the bank's privacy...
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    6. Re:From a banker's perspective... by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 2

      ...from the propaganda broadcast message, a bank I work with indicates that it would be impossible for a single service representative to access information from different departments - mortgages, securities, whatever.

      Don't trust banks much, but... that's their line.

    7. Re:From a banker's perspective... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It is interesting, that you could simply use a
      wide variety of Head (Helmet) Mounted Displays
      to get just the same effect. Such displays can
      utilize biometrics to became even more secure.

    8. Re:From a banker's perspective... by qzulla · · Score: 1

      Why do they have to be 3D glasses? I have polarized clip ons for my regular glasses. ac

  70. It's been done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spectre had notebooks at Fall COMDEX with these screens in 1998. They offered to "upgrade" any existing notebook to this type of screen for $500.

    Anyone wearing polarized sunglasses can read the screen, so it isn't really that secure.

  71. Peril Sensitive? by ArthurDent · · Score: 2

    Would I still be able to seem my screen with my peril sensitive sunglasses on?

    1. Re:Peril Sensitive? by MartinB · · Score: 2

      No! It was Zaphod who had the glasses (and Arthur's too much of a wimp to take them off him)

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  72. But SLIGHTLY polarized light is all around us... by dpbsmith · · Score: 2

    Without screen shots, critical commentary, or a real review it's hard to tell just how effective this really is. SLIGHTLY polarized light is very common in the everyday environment. For example, light from most parts of the sky is partially polarized. Many of us have probably noticed pale rainbow- or oil-film-like colorations in car windows as a result of the interactions between birefringence in the prestressed safety glass and natural polarized light from the sky. This is even more noticable on airline flights with airliner windows.

    I think it is VERY unlikely that the screen looks PERFECTLY blank all the time. I'll bet that, for example, in a laptop on an airplane, it would be easy to see that there was SOMETHING on the screen, and even to read it without glasses by close inspection.

    So, I'm not completely sure I understand the practical point of this invention. It isn't going to make spies think that the screen is truly blank or truly turned off--if, indeed, the fact that someone is looking at the screen with special glasses was not a giveaway in itself. As a casual "privacy" device it probably works--a spy probably couldn't read it from three feet away, and staring at it from six inches away while rotating it to get the greatest amount of naturally polarized light would make the spy conspicuous. But various existing privacy devices that limit the usable angle of view would probably be just as effective.

    On the other hand, if someone can develop a version of this that simulataneously display TWO DIFFERENT images with 90-degree-opposite polarization--the computer-display equivalent of a Polaroid "Vectograph"--it might be a useful form of 3D-with-glasses display.

  73. Sega did it more then 10 years ago by pepper_pusher · · Score: 0

    Sega released the first 3d glasses some 10-15 years ago, a side effect was that only the player who wears the 3d glasses can see the game.

    Will someone post this company to fuckedcompany.com?

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  74. Less is more by billcopc · · Score: 1

    The beauty of this design is that they're selling you less hardware for more money. They're effectively removing the filter screen from the LCD, putting it into a pair of glasses, and charging 7x the normal price. The only smart thing about this gimmick is how they're screwing the rich ignorants of the world with their flawed privacy scheme.

    Someone should open up the School of Cyber-fraud : Harnessing the power of high-tech misconceptions to extort money from the rich and stupid. Sign up within the next 15 minutes and save 395$ off regular tuition, only 5995$! Don't wait, Call now!

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  75. MPAA Involvement? by supabeast! · · Score: 2

    Hmmm... it seems that the MPAA has closed half of the analog hole. Now they can do video-on-demand and charge for each connected headset!

  76. Sheesh... by oval_pants · · Score: 1

    1.) Make cool techno-sounding wiz bang device that clueless managers will buy thinking they will save their company from evil-doers.
    2.) Stick head in sand when confronted with silly counter-devices like sunglasses, contact lenses etc.
    3.) Charge $1600 and $2500 for each monitor.
    4.) ???
    5.) Profit.

  77. Doh! stupid idea by gilesjuk · · Score: 1

    Why not just have screens in the glasses? would be cheaper than glases and a screen.

  78. Forget glasses by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 1

    Give me the special contact lenses. 007, move over!

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  79. this is so you won't get fired by SethJohnson · · Score: 2


    This device is obviously going to be popular for those who look @ porn all day at work.
    1. Re:this is so you won't get fired by azadrozny · · Score: 1

      This is a great invention. I will finally be able to surf the net in peace without my manager pestering me about doing work. After all, how will he know? I could just waste my day away on /. Wait... I do that already!

  80. Sounds familiar.... oh yes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  81. Ditch the monitor keep the glasses by Aceticon · · Score: 2

    If they have and X-Ray version of the glasses i'm up for a pair.

  82. I'm sorry Mr Smith... by Diamon · · Score: 2

    You have to get contact lenses so you can wear our polarized sunglasses to see your monitor. Glasses of your own just wont due. And no you can't have polarized glasses of you own, then we couldn't restrict you from seeing screens by taking your glasses away.

  83. great excuse for non-working demos... by SethJohnson · · Score: 3, Funny


    This would be a great excuse for people who have to build Proof of Concepts for client demos. You could bring your non-functioning demo to the pitch meeting and just show them a white screen. Run through the sales pitch and if the customer complains, you could explain that because the product is so proprietary, your boss requires you use this screen to enforce confidentiality.
  84. This might be obvious... by splume · · Score: 1

    but, how does this affect people who already wear glasses? I mean, do they now have to wear two pairs? I just seems kinda silly.

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  85. The Goggles ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They do NOTHING!!!

  86. False sense of security by sludg-o · · Score: 1

    This is a bad idea because it creates a false sense of security. It could easily and stealthily be defeated by an onlooker wearing polarized contact lenses.

  87. The Goggles! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They do Nothing!!!

  88. Odd behaviour... by Anonymous+Shepard · · Score: 1
    Well, you won't be able to get away with it inconspicuously anyway. People will just have to look out for strange individuals wearing 3D-glasses and tilting and shaking their heads in front of the monitors.
    "Alternatively, Kuhn told New Scientist, simple 3D movie glasses could defeat the system. These have a horizontal polarising filter on one eye and a vertical filter on the other eye.

    "By tilting the head up to 45 degrees to either side and switching between both eyes, you can easily observe light at all polarisation angles," he says. Kuhn adds that an opaque shielding device might be simpler way to obstruct prying eyes."
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  89. War.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, up next, WarStaring...

  90. easier to goof off at work by maf212 · · Score: 0

    now I can read slashdot even more often without trying to hide the browser window every time the boss walks by.

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  91. Another Dimension... by GlobalMind · · Score: 1

    If you've never worn polarized sunglasses, you see things quite a bit differently - especially LCD displays.

    You see all of the color variations on the screens, and while driving I can tell who has their car windows with polarized tinting on them also...since I can see the color variations there too.

    Pretty neat stuff, although we'd all look like we are just too damn cool all wearing sunglasses while working.

    Hmm, easier to doze off?

    "My data's so special...I gotta wear shades"

    K.

  92. Anyone got $2100 they can give me? by nenolod · · Score: 1

    I must have one of these, so I figure I'll hit up some fellow slashdot readers for the money. So, what about it? Do you have the $2100 that the monitor costs? But really, who would pay $2100 for a monitor, sounds a little costly to me.

  93. Oh oh by p3d0 · · Score: 2

    I'd better get rid of my polarized sunglasses before they come after me for DMCA violations...

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  94. This is so old and stupid by thunderbee · · Score: 1

    I must have read about this years ago in an SF book. Anyway, it's kinda stupid. They should have taken the idea to the next step: glasses are linked to the computer which adjusts the glasses filter in real time in sync with the monitor. Defeats the "someone could have the same glasses or contact lenses" or whatever. Bulky and costlier for sure, but probably way more secure.
    Display on the glasses could be easier as well.

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  95. It can be defeated by polarized/3d glasses. So wha by vidnet · · Score: 1
    A linux box can be rooted if you have physical access. A child can climb the fences and fall into a crocodile pit. A car can be started without keys.

    That doesn't mean that security patches, crocodile fences or car keys are useless.

    If they prevent anyone who doesn't actively try to see the information, they stop 98% of possible intrusions.

    If you're worried about the information on the screen, you lock the door and turn the monitor away from any windows. If you're really worried, you put your head and the monitor under a blanket. If you're really, really worried, you memorize disassembler listings and emulate the programs in your head.

    If you're sitting at a counter at a crowded airport or similar, you get one of these polarized monitors.

  96. Stupid ! by forged · · Score: 2

    If they don't want people having a peek at their monitor, rather than building some complex/ineffective system using light polarization, why not simply drop monitors alltogether and use some sort of eye-mounted display like iGlasses ?

  97. New DMCA application by expro · · Score: 1
    Please, Mr. Hacker, don't make any sudden moves, and hand over your unauthorized glasses.

    Don't you know that only subscribed New Media Conglomorate members and FBI agents are authorized to wear cool shades that let them see the copyrighted media that surrounds them?

  98. Glasses Design. by OS24Ever · · Score: 2

    Of course, all the glasses will have to be the biggest, ugliest, most obvious looking things on the planet so no one will no to take them.

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  99. I bet she wished she had one of these! by on+Wednesday+Septemb · · Score: 0

    Martha Stewart may get new CEO

    N.Y. Times reports search under way due to trading scandal

    NEW YORK, Sept. 4 -- Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia is looking to replace its namesake CEO, who is embroiled in an insider trading investigation, the New York Times reported Wednesday.

    PEOPLE WHO have been briefed on the search said they were looking for someone to replace Stewart, whose company's stock has plummeted since questions arose about her trading of stock in New York biotech firm ImClone Systems Inc., the newspaper reported.

    It was not clear whether Stewart would continue as chairwoman of the board if she is replaced as chief executive, it said.

    Stewart is under investigation by the U.S. House Energy and Commerce Committee, which is probing whether she had insider information when she sold ImClone shares.

    Aside from the insider trading investigation, Martha Stewart Living shareholders filed lawsuits last month alleging the home styling maven and other company insiders illegally sold Omnimedia stock.

    The market value of Martha Stewart's company has plummeted since early June, when questions arose about Stewart's trading of ImClone. ImClone announced negative news that sent its stock tumbling the day after Stewart sold her stake in the firm.

    Last month Stewart's legal team turned over more than 1,000 pages of documents demanded by the U.S. House panel.

    No one was immediately available for comment at Martha Stewart Living.

    Martha Stewart Living shares climbed 2.68 percent on Tuesday to $7.65, bucking a Wall Street tumble that wiped four percent of the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

  100. The kind in my glove compartment. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

    If you'd bothered to read all the way to the second sentence of the summary, you'd have known that the "secret" lens was just a polarizing one.

    Which makes this the worst idea for security ever. Security Through obscurity doesn't work in the long run, but Security Through Requiring Ten Dollar Sunglasses is just plain idiotic.

    Hey, I've got a pair of these magic lenses in my car! They're great for reducing glare when driving. Maybe the glasses manufacturer will be indicted on charges of making circumvention devices! Yeah, this is stupid.

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  101. Been there, done that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This crops up every once in a while; I'm not sure if it's the same company or not, but it's old news that you can have your laptop's display peeled. (...and indeed, that's the best use for it.. having a modicum of privacy while working on a crowded plane, etc).

    Presumably it's news this time because nobody had *desktop* LCDs before., ;)

  102. Agent glasses by Arcturax · · Score: 2

    Theys should make them of the style worn by Agent Smith of the Matrix. I'd love working with a company with everyone wearing those!

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  103. Are they... by a1englishman · · Score: 1

    ...Peril Sensitive?

    Thank you Mister Adams.

    1. Re:Are they... by OpCode42 · · Score: 2

      Actually, on the TV production of HHGTTG, this was how the peril sensitive glasses worked.

      The glasses were polarised, clear normally, and when they were required to go black the polarising sheet on the camera was rotated, making them appear black.

      Yes, I have the DVD with the production notes. Yes, i read them all. Yes, I should be able to find a better use of my time, but I cant.

  104. Re:And if someone has two sets of 'special' glasse by kcelery · · Score: 1

    There are contact lenses made from polarized material. Special markings on poker could be seen with these contact lens.

  105. Eh? Tokio? Honto? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had no idea the band Tokio was so multi-talented!

  106. Friday the 13th III / Jaws III / Space Hunter by samf · · Score: 1

    In high school, my friend intentionally took the polarizing filter off of the display of his TI calculator. Then, he could only see the display with the polarizing-style 3d glasses on. One eye saw black-on-white, the other eye saw white-on-black. It was weird indeed.

    But the best part was that he would be wearing these ridiculous 3D glasses he had taken from a movie theater. It was a combo of Friday the 13th Part III in 3-D, and Jaws III, and perhaps even Space Hunter. So the artwork on the glasses themselves had a fireplace poker dripping with blood, shark fins, and (I think) flying saucers. The theatre chain was very thrifty to combine all the 3D movies into one set of glasses.

    Predictably, the instructor would tell him to take those stupid things off, but he would show them that that's the only way he could see his calculator. They'd reluctantly let him leave them on.

  107. Saw this at Comdex, 1999 by torklugnutz · · Score: 1

    I remember seeing this displayed at Fall Comdex, 1999. It's not particurally practical, especially since many people already wear polarized sunglasses.

    On a side note, has anyone tried to look at an LCD while wearing polarized glasses? It doesn't work. Try it on your laptop, car stereo or watch.

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  108. Re:It can be defeated by polarized/3d glasses. So by EllF · · Score: 2

    If they prevent anyone who doesn't actively try to see the information, they stop 98% of possible intrusions.

    I'd love to see the evidence that proves that 98% of all intrusions are accidental.

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  109. for extra safety... by morie · · Score: 2

    You heve to use two of these glasses, in a right angle ot eachother. That way, really nobody can see what you are looking at...

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  110. Duh! by rew · · Score: 2

    Take an LCD screen, remove the front-polarizer and there you go. Simple.

    -- Roger.

  111. Build yourself a data hiding monitor by kavau · · Score: 1
    • Step 1: get a LCD panel (an old laptop will do) and pry open the panel frame.
    • Step 2: remove the front polarizing filter (a greyish-looking transparent film that is located in front of the liquid crystal layer).
    • Step 3: close the frame and fix it provisionally with duct tape or super glue.
    • Step 4: cut some lens-shaped pieces out of the polarizing filter you just removed. Find an old spectacles frame and insert the pieces. Make sure they have the same orientation as they had in the LCD panel.
    • Step 5: show off to your friends.

    Background info: A LCD screen is made of four layers - the first being a neon tube (or something similar) that emits the actual light. That light then passes through the first polarizing filter, which transmits only light that is polarized, say, in the horizontal direction. The next layer contains the liquid crystals, which turn the polarization of the light by 90 degrees, if a voltage is applied, or leaves the polarization unaltered, if no voltage is applied. In the first case, the light will be blocked by the final polarizing layer (which you just removed), which again transmits only horizontally polarized light. If no voltage is applied, however, the light will pass the second layer unhindered, and will reach your eye. All you did (if you followed the above steps) is to move that layer from the screen to your eyeglasses.

    Note: I am typing the above info out of my head, so there's no guarantee that all the details are correct. But the main idea sure is.

    By the way, if you don't feel like taking apart your laptop, this works perfectly well with pocket calculators (I loved to take them apart as a kid!), Game Boys, PDAs etc.

  112. Actually, this has been done already by MERL... by mcarbone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been meaning to get this on Slashdot for some time now, but I worked on a much more powerful version of such glasses over a year ago at Mitsubishi Electric Research Labs (MERL) in Cambridge, MA, with Researcher William Y. Yerazunis. Here's the technical report if you'd like to see it. We also filed a few patents way back then as well, so I wonder if this work infringes on our own.

    We can actually hide secret images within any image or animation you'd like, not just an obvious blank screen. We also designed a cryptographically secure version which isn't cracked by simply having another pair of special glasses (you also need the private key). Check out the paper, it has some image examples (there might be a few technical errors in it that we later fixed but wasn't updated in the paper. I'm not at MERL anymore, so I haven't bothered checking really).

    Also, we made a video demo for the conference which our technical report was accepted in paper form (at OzCHI2001). I have that video, and can digitize it if there's enough demand. By the way, while I was testing the glasses, I actually used They Live screenshots so that one could simulate Rowdy Roddy Piper's shock upon seeing the billboards and aliens. Also, we referenced John Carpenter in our paper.

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  113. Only one kind works. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Informative

    Second, how many different polarizations are there?

    There are more kinds, circular for example. It means the electric field is rotating, either clockwise or counterclockwise.


    But that won't work for screens. The liquid crystal will ROTATE a LINEAR polarization but won't reverse a circular polarization. The screen starts with a light source, linear-polarizes it, selectively rotates the polarization, then linear-polarizes again. Depending on the amount of rotation you get more or less light.

    This ancient hack consists of taking the final linear polarizer off the front of the screen and wearing it as a pair of glasses. The screen now emits a constant-brightness, varying-LINEAR-polarization light, which isn't translated into variable intensity until it hits the polarized glasses.

    But that means that if you get the polarization right you get the image, if you're off by 90 degrees you get a negative image, and at other angles you get an image that has an intended-versus-perceived intensity graph something like a check-mark. Unless you happen to be at the angle where the letters and the background match exactly it's still readable, and if you're at exactly that wrong angle just tilt your head a LITTLE bit and they reappear.

    So stock polarizing sunglasses read all these screens, no problem.

    If you could come up with a final filter for the screen that converted, say, the vertical component of linearly-polarized light into right-circular and the horizontal into left-circular, you could then use circularly polarized glasses and defeat linearly-polarized. But I don't know of any physical mechanism (let alone one that could be turned into a cheap thin film) that would do this, even for monochrome, let alone the near-octave of light used by color displays or the full-octave for black-and-white.

    Even if you DID come up with a circularly-polarized hack you'd only have TWO possibilities for the glasses - and viewing the display with the wrong one would just give you a negative, but readable, image.

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    1. Re:Only one kind works. by esonik · · Score: 1

      If you could come up with a final filter for the screen that converted, say, the vertical component of linearly-polarized light into right-circular and the horizontal into left-circular, you could then use circularly polarized glasses and defeat linearly-polarized. But I don't know of any physical mechanism (let alone one that could be turned into a cheap thin film) that would do this, even for monochrome, let alone the near-octave of light used by color displays or the full-octave for black-and-white.

      That's easy do to. It's commonly known as quarter wave plate. Put it in front of your h and v polarized screen and rotate it to 45 degrees from h/v. It will turn h polarized in to right (or left) and v polarized into left (or right, depending on the rotation of the qw plate). See here how it works.

      So stock polarizing sunglasses read all these screens, no problem.

      Or just take the top plate from your old LCD pocket calculator/alarm clock/whatever.

  114. Obligatory DRM conspiracy theory by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 2

    Gee, this would be just the thing for Digital Rights Management. Imagine, if your CPRM or Palladium personal ID were coded into the glasses! You would only see things they wanted you to see, and only things you've paid for, of course.

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  115. Oh, man, I need one! by tetsuji · · Score: 1

    I'll never get caught reading /. at work again!

  116. DMCA Violating Hacking Tools Already Developed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here you can get DMCA violating hacking tools for your idea. Thppt.

  117. python (as in monty) ref. by mattsucks · · Score: 1

    When i have my glasses on, i AM dictating. When I have my glasses off, I'm NOT dictating.....

  118. KDS had this a few years ago by edwolb · · Score: 1

    I thought this technology was great when I saw it 2 years ago at the NAB2000 trade show on a KDS laptop... How is this new? New Scientist is usually pretty good at fact checking :)

  119. pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great. Now if Mum comes in to my room, she won't freak out at my bukkake.

  120. Violators must be stopped!!! by chinton · · Score: 2

    Quick, someone report these folks to the feds. They are in violation of the DMCA for distributing eye-wear -- or would that be eye-ware :^) -- that will decrypt my polarized monitor.

    1. Re:Violators must be stopped!!! by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      Actually, I don't recall anyone authorizing monitors to reproduce any sort of copyrighted materials in the first place. :-)

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  121. Woohoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure whether the glasses required were vertically polarized of horizontally polarized. If they were vertically polarized, anyone with a pair of sunglasses could quite easily read the screen (but wouldn't you look odd wearing sunglasses on a plane while staring at a business person's apparently blank laptop screen).
    .
    Apparently you are under the mistaken impression that polarized lenses MUST be SUNGLASSES. Another brainless Slashdotter! B L O W M E N O W.

  122. I saw this years ago. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw a ZDnet artical years ago for this - Old news

  123. You're too kind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More like 50-60 years.

    Experimented with on railroad cars.

    Even made an appearance in James Bond films (View to a Kill).

  124. Re:It can be defeated by polarized/3d glasses. So by vidnet · · Score: 1
    In the crowded airport example, let's say out of ten thousand people glancing at the screen when walking past, one is genuinly interested in peeking at the information...

    Ten thousand accidental intrusions without protection. One with.

    If you absolutly need 98% (rather than "close to a hundred, but not quite"), make up your own numbers.

  125. People who already wear corrective glasses by Builder · · Score: 2

    Companies would never go for this. They would be exposing themselves to massive costs to provide people who wear prescription glasses with polarized glasses in their prescription. They will also be risking lawsuits from people who find that the weight of glasses causes sinus problems.

  126. Use for laptops on planes...not really by DutchSter · · Score: 2
    The biggest example of practical use of this technology seems to be sitting on a packed airplane. It seems to me that this technology may be a little too late. I seriously wonder whether or not a laptop so equipped would be permitted to be used on an airplane. Planes have had to return to an airport because a passenger noticed another one writing on a small piece of paper and giving it to the guy next to them.

    If I was on a plane and the guy next to me whipped out his glasses and 'secure' laptop I'd maybe be a little alarmed. OTOH, if I walk to the loo and see that another person is doing the same thing, I'd probably point it out. Could they be looking at layouts of the plane and coordinating plans secretly? I'm fairly technical, but just imagine the 60 year old grandmother who has never flown before and is scared to death already.

    In the office, you can reposition your screen. Generally if you have information so sensitive that you'd need one of these you work in a little office with a locking door. Why does everybody, including the intern, up in HR have their own closing office, while IT has 'the bullpen'? Hmm..

  127. hello no by SL33Z3 · · Score: 1

    Forget about sensitive data, I can use this to keep my boss from looking at my porn surfing habits while at work!

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  128. No Big Deal by johnrpenner · · Score: 2


    1) obtain, and take apart a $5 calculator.

    2) look at the LCD - there's a little piece of polarizing plastic in front of it - hey!

    3) when i take this out, i can't see the screen.

    4) stick the little piece of polarizing plastic that was taped in front of the LCD, and tape it to my glasses instead.

    5) apply for New Scientist Story, and claim we invented something unique, and get slashdotted.

    duh!

    j

  129. ATMs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    alot of ATM machines use a non glasses version of this and have done so for years and years.

    BTW its easier to get a AIM screen name than it is to get a /. logon id...geeeez!

  130. 3M's privay screen by toybuilder · · Score: 2

    You can get privacy filters for any monitor. 3M makes one which is available from any office supply store, like Staples.

    This "invention" is silly. I can pick up a pair of polarized sunglasses for $8 at the local drug store.

  131. Tokio? by Sanga · · Score: 1

    Oh I get it ... all /. spelling errors are due to improper polarisation of the readers eyes :-)

    At least now I can be sure that the post was not copy/pasted ... the article says "Tokyo".

  132. Caution by MotorMachineMercenar · · Score: 1

    This is a good idea which has to be used with caution in real life: it makes people complacent about security. People using this technology will naturally expect to be secure, which is not the case because defeating it is trivial for those in the know.

    I'm sure this technology works 99,9% of the time. But the 0,1% of the time when there is someone using a similar device or just circumventing it (for example by using the 3d-classes mentioned in the article) is exactly the worst time for security to fail. Just because your wearing an asbestos suit doesn't mean you should run into a fiery building!

    In the end, without proper paranoia and training this technology might make security _worse_ because it gives people a false sense of security, therefore putting sensitive information in the reach of the enemy who might not have access to it if this tech was not used because people would be more careful.

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  133. where is Tokio? by mr_gerbik · · Score: 2

    Is it near Kioto? North of Iokohama maybe? Ies, I think that must be it.

  134. The real use for this technology... by foxtrot · · Score: 2

    With this technology and a decent pair of headphones, your boss doesn't know you're playing Quake at the office again...

    -JDF

  135. Great for coach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you even use a laptop in coach? 31" pitch is barely enough to sit in, unless you happen to be a 3' tall midget... Besides, wouldn't you be more likely to travel in first, as a business traveler, and wouldn't your corporate spys be sitting next to you?

    No Domestic Coach Travel since 70,000 miles ago...

  136. 3M? by pvera · · Score: 1

    Over 10 years ago, while still in Engineering school, 3M sent me a sample of a plastic that they wanted to sell for covering ATMs and computer screens. The screen was only visible if your axis of vision was perpendicular to the horizontal axis of the plastic. If you veered by more than 10-15 degrees it would turn completely black. The effect was only left-right, it had no influence if for example somebody stood behind you and peeked over your shoulder.

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  137. Re:HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG by Kurayamino-X · · Score: 1

    no, fuckwits eating monkeys is how aids spred to humans.
    probably fuckwits with the same level of intelegence as the average anonymous coward =P
    and for all you know, if it was someone fuckign a monkey, it coulda been a straight guy woth a female monkey...

    on another related note, i dislike cencorship as much as the next /.er, but homophobic peices of shit like this should be deleted. theres a difference between free speach and being ignorantly obcene (or obcenely ignorant, as with this case...) an just plain obnoxious, stupid and disgusting...

    PS. for the record, i'm bi

    PPS. no, i dont fuck monkeys...

    PPPS. if i find out who you anonymous cowards are. i will hunt you down and kill you, have a nice day =D

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    ...I got nothing.
  138. Re:Great joke for greenpeace, tree hugging lefties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you pull your anus out? That must hurt!

  139. yeah definatly not new... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    saw stuff like this at PCExpo 99.. and it wasn't new then

  140. This comment is polarized by devnullforU · · Score: 0







    Put your lens to read it ....

  141. What the headline should have been by Jaguar777 · · Score: 1

    Polarized Screens to Cloak Sensitive Data Hey why not.... We are on a roll here ;)

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  142. not secure by ender's_shadow · · Score: 1

    "The displayed data is rendered invisible by doing away with a light-polarising screen from the front of the monitor. .... In the IDK system, the polarising filter is effectively moved from the screen to the pair of glasses worn by authorised computer users."

    This is possibly the most insecure security measure ever. How hard would it be to, never mind buy your own pair of glasses, but to just make them from an old laptop screen? Sheesh . . .

  143. Re:HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG by occupant4 · · Score: 1

    Actually, god created monkey for Adam first. If you'll read your Bible, you'll find that god created the animals out of dust first in an attempt to give Adam a mate. When he didn't like those, he pulled out his rib and made Eve.

  144. Re:But SLIGHTLY polarized light is all around us.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the other hand, if someone can develop a version of this that simulataneously display TWO DIFFERENT images with 90-degree-opposite polarization--the computer-display equivalent of a Polaroid "Vectograph"--it might be a useful form of 3D-with-glasses display.
    Already been done.

  145. A mirror is all you need! by MS · · Score: 2

    You don't need 3-d glasses or polarised glasses!

    A simlpe mirror (like the ones girls have in their hand-bags) is enough to filter out polarised light. Simply hold the mirror against the screen at an angle of about 45 degrees and view the screen through the mirror (use two mirrors, if you're unable to read backwards!): only light polarised vertically to the mirror will be reflcted and thus visible...

    Simple optics one-o-one. :-)
    ms

  146. Polorized glasses? Hardly... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

    Too easy to steal, too easy to get them from a 3d movie. Or from disney land.

    Now, polorized contact lenses that are made for each person...would be the way to go. Not wearing them when you go into work would ensure that you can't work.

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  147. This is an Old, Old, Old idea by Obligato · · Score: 1

    I saw this type of monitor exhibited at the SID conference back in 1995 (Orlando, FL). They had an LCD display on a laptop with the front polarizer removed. If you wore special polarized glasses with the polarization direction at 45 degrees clockwise, you could see the image. I'm pretty sure it was a different company. These new guys either got the same idea, or bought out the people who thought of it originally.

  148. Waiting for the Geeks by Taliban+Lecher · · Score: 1

    to wank in front of blank screens in their office.

  149. Re:Wow... now this is secure ;) by matrix29 · · Score: 2

    ...he warns that this security measure could be defeated by anyone who can get hold of a pair of correctly configured, light polarising glasses.

    The other option is to scramble a monochrome screen with a red or green or blue filter.

    If the filter is red then all red, white, yellow, tan, etc... pixels will be white and all other shades will be pushed to black. The classic trick is to scramble the colorspace of the pixels randomly so other viewers see multicolored static unless they have one of the color filters.

    Now another option is to sync the static with special glasses, but if you have that then why muck with the monitor signal? Now one other option is to create a multi-polarized (simplest tech is to take two polarized sheets, go scissor-happy and glue to a clear plastic sheet in the many random orientations that would occur) pair of glasses. Then sync the polarization to the unique glasses, but the viewer has to maintain an exact close distance & have very little head movement.

    Another variation of the concept is to do the same thing with the pure color filters and cut & glue the pieces into a stained-glass unique viewer which matches the color-space scrambling of the monitor. Again the same limitations of viewing distance & head motion come into play. However, the glasses will look a damn spot more stylish.

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  150. Save tons of $$$ by Chippy+Chick · · Score: 1

    How about this alternative?

    1. Turn the monitor so it faces AWAY from the door / traffic / etc.

    2. When you leave, lock the computer.

    No glasses required, but you can still wear them if they look cool.
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  151. This is NOTHING NEW! by nic1m · · Score: 1

    I remember reading about this years ago in PC Magazine. A company, whose name I can't remember, at the time offered the following service/product: You sent them your laptop. They removed the polarizing layer of the LCD. They ship the laptop back with some polarizing glasses. I think the price was a few hundred dollars.

  152. Re:And if someone has two sets of 'special' glasse by Shanep · · Score: 2

    Exactly. I thought up this brilliant idea about 20 years ago, when I was about 10 and into electronics.

    Get any LCD screen, remove the polarizing film and use some "special" glasses.

    I have a nice pair of "special" glasses, they're called Bolle.

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  153. Emperor's Monitors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have some monitors like this. Unless you have the special glasses on, you can't even see the monitor - can't even tell if it's there or not. We sold 100 of them to an Emperor.

  154. READ THE ARTICLE! by goodie · · Score: 1

    Please read the article before making stupid comments. Lower average intelligence than community radio broadcasters!

    ABSTRACT: This paper describes a method for enhancing the privacy of computer displays in public and semipublic areas. By operating the display at a higher-than-usual frame rate and alternately displaying frames of an arbitrary private image and a computed mask image, unauthorized viewers perceive one image, while authorized viewers with appropriately keyed shutterglasses see an entirely different (and private) image. Although the technique can be defeated, it provides a measure of privacy against casual and opportunistic privacy penetrations.

  155. Close but no cigar. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    That's easy do to. It's commonly known as quarter wave plate. Put it in front of your h and v polarized screen and rotate it to 45 degrees from h/v. It will turn h polarized in to right (or left) and v polarized into left (or right, depending on the rotation of the qw plate). See here [gsu.edu] how it works.

    Nope - because you only get right-circular and left-circular when the polarization is 45-degrees to the quarter-wave plate's axis. Other angles produce eliptical polarization. So variable intensity (other than on vs. off) is out if you want security against cheap polaroid sunglasses (or viewing the screen in a glare surface).

    Also you'll be stuck with a monochrome screen unless you can come up with three narrow-band incoherent colors and a plate that's a quarter-wave for all three.

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  156. It's Been Done Before by PleaseDontBeTaken · · Score: 1

    This was in Popular Science and/or PC Magazine. (Tough to remember which since both seem to have a number of articles written by the PR Crew, but I think it was PS.) The company was selling modifications to laptop screens and matching glasses. Obvious application was for on-plane editing by incredibly important people, of which there were many at that e-time. I liked the idea but couldn't rationalize the cost just to prevent people from discovering my Civilization strategies, finely honed though they may have been.

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  157. your money or your life? by wadiwood · · Score: 1

    There is nothing more important that people's money

    If there was nothing more important than money, why would we trade it for anything? I agree that there isn't anything much more likely to generate irrational behaviour than money, apart from threats to health.

    Anyway since when does hiding what is on the monitor help when the data is accessible from thousands of terminals? Can't see it on that monitor, I'll just suck up the data on my own monitor. Hell, can I sue for being able to view my bank accounts from the not-so-private internet cafe monitors?

    I'd be quite happy for a (smelly) sock for the gob of the next teller who announces to the whole queue - "so how would you like your $3000 withdrawal", when I had already written that down on a bit of paper for them. Can I sue for the fear and trauma caused by this? Perhaps I could get the money debited from their salary instead of my bank account?

    So let's get cones of silence and monitors built directly into the goggles. Put each person's encrypted data on sneaker net (floppy disk etc) and make each workstation stand alone

    How about making the screen resolution really small ie tiny text and making staff wear magnifying glasses?

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    1. Re:your money or your life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hi, i'm doing a project on this computer thing (the polarized screen) and i know absolutely nothing about this topic. so, all that being said i noticed that you really seemed to know what you were talking about, so i was wondering if you wanted to write me an email with some info. it's not that i am being lazy, it is just really hard to find stuff about this. ok, so if you want to email me some stuff my address is micaiahganz@hotmail.com
      thanks

  158. Naturally... by quintessent · · Score: 2

    Employees who are unworthy of their posts will be unable to see what is on the screen, even with the glasses.