Er... no. Japanese is laid out in browsers in the same way English is - left to right, top to bottom.
2ch's layout may look like crap, but nobody uses the top page anyway - anybody serious about it would have installed a specialised 2ch browser that permits easy switching between threads and boards.
Your Japanese friends are lying to you. Articles about 2ch appear on Yahoo Japan news about every other day, for God's sake.
As for 2ch being a mess, only newcomers use browsers - the site actually has an internal format which is more efficient than HTML, and which can be used by specialised reader software to organise it in better ways than can be done in a browser interface.
There's even reader software written in XUL for Mozilla, and Lisp for Emacs.
1) 2ch has a select group of users who can delete posts. 2) Posters can be blocked by IP address. 3) 2ch allows what they call "boards" (a collection of related "threads" - a thread is the equivalent of a Slashdot story, with a maximum of 1000 posts) to block posts from hosts with open proxies. 4) Some boards are moderated, in the sense that only specific users (called "journalists") can create new threads, thereby blocking thread spammers (people who create large numbers of new threads).
They have a number of other rather neat features as well, but it is pretty chaotic. Take a look at their bandwidth usage - during their busiest periods, they use over 100Mbps of bandwidth a second, from text-only posting!
I remember seeing an article on this identical process, about three years ago, that said the new treatment would be available to the public in about three years.
I guess in two years time I can look forward to it being only a year away.
I would like to add another vote for Texmacs - it's an absolutely wonderful program, and the sheer range of capabilities it has for formatting put any other WYSIWYG editor to shame.
From what I remember: 1) It runs as a device driver under Windows, which provides it with hardware access. 2) It doesn't yet run X correctly; any screenshots showing an X interface were done by running a separate X server under Windows and having CoLinux talk to that.
I bought them all at the same time - one for use, two for spare parts - but the one I use hasn't broken yet, so the other two are still sitting intact in their boxes.
Let me think about it for a couple of days; I'll let you know. Be warned that I'm in Japan, so the postage will be quite stiff.
I've left out the stuff that's not normally running (e.g. the other two Alpha boxes, the dual PII that's currently in pieces, a Quadra700, a PowerMac 7100/80, three IBM PC110 handhelds...).
Japanese alien registration cards used to carry a single fingerprint from your index finger, but that requirement's been lifted now.
Funny how the 'land of the free' is the one intent on ignoring the human rights of foreign visitors, while a country long known for its insularity is getting rid of invasive procedurs, isn't it?
I'm a lot less disturbed by this "strong authentication" of foreign travellers to the U.S. than I am of all the policies applying to U.S. citizens with no oversight or public review.
Authentication against what, you twat? In case you hadn't noticed, other countries aren't exactly falling over themselves to supply ready-made mugshot/fingerprint databases of their citizens to the US.
Heh. I agree with you. I tried re-reading the Belgariad just recently, nearly twenty years after I initially read it. I loved it when I was a pre-teen; now it just gets up my nose. All the twee repartee, the fantasy cliches piled on top of each other, the utter lack of anything approaching suspense in the plot... taken all together, the books are just unbearable.
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No, 2ch has no image boards.
There are many areas that link to image boards or images, but the boards not part of 2ch as such.
Er... no.
Japanese is laid out in browsers in the same way English is - left to right, top to bottom.
2ch's layout may look like crap, but nobody uses the top page anyway - anybody serious about it would have installed a specialised 2ch browser that permits easy switching between threads and boards.
Not hardly. 2ch regularly saturates a 100Mbps connection, and has 3-5 million visits a day. /. probably gets less than a tenth of that.
"Very active"? I went there and it said "Currently active visitors: 11".
2ch has somewhere between 3 and 5 million visitors a day.
Your Japanese friends are lying to you.
Articles about 2ch appear on Yahoo Japan news about every other day, for God's sake.
As for 2ch being a mess, only newcomers use browsers - the site actually has an internal format which is more efficient than HTML, and which can be used by specialised reader software to organise it in better ways than can be done in a browser interface.
There's even reader software written in XUL for Mozilla, and Lisp for Emacs.
Several ways:
1) 2ch has a select group of users who can delete posts.
2) Posters can be blocked by IP address.
3) 2ch allows what they call "boards" (a collection of related "threads" - a thread is the equivalent of a Slashdot story, with a maximum of 1000 posts) to block posts from hosts with open proxies.
4) Some boards are moderated, in the sense that only specific users (called "journalists") can create new threads, thereby blocking thread spammers (people who create large numbers of new threads).
They have a number of other rather neat features as well, but it is pretty chaotic. Take a look at their bandwidth usage - during their busiest periods, they use over 100Mbps of bandwidth a second, from text-only posting!
I remember seeing an article on this identical process, about three years ago, that said the new treatment would be available to the public in about three years.
I guess in two years time I can look forward to it being only a year away.
Actually that would be 2004/5/1, since year/month/day is the ISO standard.
I would like to add another vote for Texmacs - it's an absolutely wonderful program, and the sheer range of capabilities it has for formatting put any other WYSIWYG editor to shame.
You are correct in that I did not RTFA, just looked at the image and read the summary.
Typical marketroid...
a 2 wheeled computer balanced transportation device that is not allowed to use the name segway for copyright reasons
IANAL, but that should read "a 2 wheeled computer balanced transportation device that is not allowed to use the name segway for trademark reasons".
From what I remember:
1) It runs as a device driver under Windows, which provides it with hardware access.
2) It doesn't yet run X correctly; any screenshots showing an X interface were done by running a separate X server under Windows and having CoLinux talk to that.
Yeah, that's obviously the reason why Debian was so quick to jump to X.org - cause they want to make their corporate masters happy.
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At least try and get the guy's name right in the goddamn title, OK?
I bought them all at the same time - one for use, two for spare parts - but the one I use hasn't broken yet, so the other two are still sitting intact in their boxes.
Let me think about it for a couple of days; I'll let you know. Be warned that I'm in Japan, so the postage will be quite stiff.
Oh good, is this going to be a hardware bragging rights thread?
Firewall: PentiumMMX 233MHz, 64MB RAM, 4.3GB FastSCSI HDD
Fileserver 1: PentiumIII 1.13GHz, 256MB RAM, 36GB Ultra160 SCSI HDD x 6, PERC3/DLC RAID card
Fileserver 2: PentiumIII 750MHz x 2, 768MB RAM, 36GB Ultra160 SCSI HDD x 3, Software RAID
Fileserver 3: PentiumIII 866MHz, 640MB RAM, 18GB Ultra160 SCSI HDD x 2, Compaq SMART2 RAID card
Workstation 1: Celeron 1GHz, 512MB RAM, 80GB Ultra100 IDE HDD
Workstation 2: PentiumIII 800MHz, 256MB RAM, 80GB Ultra66 IDE HDD
Workstation 3: Alpha 21164 600MHz, 384MB RAM, 18GB UltraWide SCSI HDD
Workstation 4: UltraSparcII 296MHz x 2, 768MB RAM, 18GB UltraWide SCSI HDD x 3, Software RAID
Workstation 5: Alpha 21064 266MHz, 96MB RAM, 9GB UltraSCSI HDD
Diskless PC 1: PentiumIII 800MHz, 256MB RAM, boots from Fileserver 2
Diskless PC 2: AMD K6-III 450MHz, 128MB RAM, boots from Fileserver 2
Laptop 1: Celeron 700MHz, 160MB RAM, 40GB Ultra66 IDE HDD
Laptop 2: PentiumMMX 233MHz, 64MB RAM, 4.3GB IDE HDD
I've left out the stuff that's not normally running (e.g. the other two Alpha boxes, the dual PII that's currently in pieces, a Quadra700, a PowerMac 7100/80, three IBM PC110 handhelds...).
Who needs central heating?
Heh... exactly what I was thinking. The kids these days, they don't know their Hayes commands from their bellybuttons.
Looking at the Wayback Machine link, it appears to be a snapshot from 1999. Of course, Google could have obtained this hardware well before then.
Obviously, I highly value your opinion of me.
Oh lovely, so you get everybody else to cooperate in your slide down the slippery slope towards a fascist state.
While the terrorists send people without any prior travel record as their catspaws.
Brilliant, just brilliant.
What use is life if you have no freedom?
No, they're not.
Japanese alien registration cards used to carry a single fingerprint from your index finger, but that requirement's been lifted now.
Funny how the 'land of the free' is the one intent on ignoring the human rights of foreign visitors, while a country long known for its insularity is getting rid of invasive procedurs, isn't it?
I'm a lot less disturbed by this "strong authentication" of foreign travellers to the U.S. than I am of all the policies applying to U.S. citizens with no oversight or public review.
Authentication against what, you twat? In case you hadn't noticed, other countries aren't exactly falling over themselves to supply ready-made mugshot/fingerprint databases of their citizens to the US.
That's easy: FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP...
Oh, you said clapping. Sorry, I don't know.
Heh. I agree with you.
I tried re-reading the Belgariad just recently, nearly twenty years after I initially read it.
I loved it when I was a pre-teen; now it just gets up my nose. All the twee repartee, the fantasy cliches piled on top of each other, the utter lack of anything approaching suspense in the plot... taken all together, the books are just unbearable.