Yeah, because as everybody knows, business lUsers need more power than anybody. Powerpoint being such a processor hog and everything.
Seriously, though, does anybody else have a boss who needs a bogger monitor / faster PC than anyone else on the floor, just to show that they are "the BOSS"?
4 and 1/2 hours. That's how long it took my TIbook (DVI) to notify me that it was running on batteries. I had dual displays going (it was on my desktop), blaring MP3's, external USB mouse, and downloading shit like all get out.
Maybe your computer should be wedged under the short leg of your kitchen table where it belongs.
And we all know how likely that it is that companies will stop using misleading advertising, willingly. Or, that their employees (I mean our representatives) should compel them to tell the truth.
I would LOVE to see you try to quantify that statement. I would guess that most Ogg fanboys are actually the dudes who had iPods (or another mp3 player) LONG before J-Lo and Tony Hawk and all your other standard consumers did. You know, the early adopters. The people who spend MORE money on gadgets than anyone else.
In my area, the Animal Humane Society is not run by sadists who kill for sport. It is staffed mostly by volunteers who love animals, even the vets who have to euthanize the ones that don't get adopted. The vast majority of animals who aren't adopted have behavioral problems (like uncontrolled fits of violence) which would pretty much prevent them being adopted by 99.99999999999% of the folks out there.
I don't know where you are from, but I seriously doubt that your pound is run by bloodsport dog-fighting crazies.
I agree, however, with you that people should adopt animals.
The real criminals here are pet stores, which keep the "puppy mills" in business. If you want a dog, get it from a breeder that lives with and loves their animals, or the pound. NEVER a pet store.
Try Gentoo - it is known as well working with power on Macs
What? I have a hard time believing that Gentoo is better than any modern distro at Mac power management. Isn't that stuff generally handled in the kernel and with hdparm?
If you mean 1394 (firewire) Yep. Thanks.
then Vist zip 250 and Sony DV are perfectly fine working firewire devices on both Linux/x86 and Linux/ppc boxes for me.
Most pro audio firewire devices are poorly supported in Linux or FreeBSD etc, because of the lack of applications such as Logic and Cubase.
I cannot run Cocoa applications on the other hardware platforms
Actually a well-behaved application may work on GNUstep quite nicely. It can certainly be engineered to do so.
One more time - who cares about fonts. I can read and that's enough.
I do. I wear glasses already and I don't want my vision getting any worse.
Maybe you don't get it. I really like Linux. A LOT! However, I really like OS X a lot too.
With RANDR even more - you will be able to migrate the window of your application from display on one computer to display on ANOTHER computer without interrupting the process of execution? I guess Cocoa cannot do it and will never do it - Cocoa GUI is not network compatible at all, is it?
Actually, it can. The technology is called portable distributed objects. It has existed for years, by the way.
Finally, can Cocoa rotate the screen on the fly?
Not the screen itself, but objects that would need such treatment are drawn as PDF and rotated by the display engine itself - using OpenGL on your 3D card!
In my area, AT&T does NOT portscan, except in response to other portscans. It seems that they tolerate IDS and counter-scans. I have never had any problems with my cable modem. In fact, when the great "Death of @Home" happened, my line was down for 3 minutes. 3! 2 mb up, 2 down, is fine for me.
I live in Portland, where the broadband is cheap and plentiful.
Have you priced out high-end unix lately? AIX and IRIX and (if you have a LOT of money) UNICOS upgrades can run WAY more than Windows.
While Windows-based server computers are growing increasingly powerful and can cost 40 percent less than Unix systems, open- source programs have improved enough to replace Unix systems, investors said.
Their use of UNIX instead of Linux indicates perhaps some dishonesty to me. Linux is probably way cheaper, but UNIX machines (Sun, SGI, IBM, Comp^H^H^H^H HP) can be way pricier.
Don't get mad at Be, Inc. A lot of folks who worked there are as pissed off as you are about the state of things. The whole problem can be traced back to one French fuckhead - Gasse. He is a stone cold bitch. He is the person who drilled Be into the ground, as it wasn't turning profit fast enough for him. As a sidebar, he just got fired from his new job, may he rot in hell.
The 'they' that you refer to is retinal imprint - and it doesn't always go away. I have one from a flash in the face that has been with me for 15 years or so now.
So, please don't shine a bright light directly into your eye. Not that you would anyway... Would you??
God, I *HOPE* that KAAAAAZZAAZAZAAA and morpheus are affected by this. The fucking gnutellanet has gone right down the shitter since those two clients muscled in on the GNUT action. (is kazazazazaaaza on the gnutellanet? i know morpheus is.)
No shit. That asshole is either living in his own fantasy world, drunk, on crack, or all three. Read his section on emulators for a deep vision of his stupidity.
Anyways when they checked my carry on luggage they ran it through an Xray. They made me take my trekking poles out to see what they were (they are poles for hiking). They didn't care about the pot that showed up as a big grey cylinder in the middle of my pack.
Maybe it's time to learn a new UI. Quit sucking your thumb, get over the fact that the Apple menu is different, or shut up and remain an OS 9 user forever.
It was high time that Apple evolved. It was either that or die.
Except that one of the two results in apps that start faster and can run on an old OS that still has a big following.
Yeah, there are still a lot of people who use Nextstep / Openstep. It would be trivial to port most Cocoa apps to those old OS's.
As a side note, have you ever seen how fucking slow Explorer starts? Or Office X? Then launch a Cocoa app and see the difference. Especially under 10.2!
Anyway, every time I see the little watch, or the old monochrome spinny ball, I know I'm looking at old technology. The star trek project was anything but comprehensive or complete. Besides, that's a different animal, as the Mac ran on 68xxx hardware then.
I'm sorry if you feel that Carbon is as good as Cocoa, but you are just plain wrong. Apple has never said that Carbon is a rewrite. It's likely just the old Mac toolkit with most of the cruft removed. I am actually quite informed on this issue. Look into the Carbon documentation, though, and you'll still find much old cruft.
I have developed for the old Mac OS and refuse to touch Carbon. What a fucking mess! Cocoa has been beautiful since the 80's, and IMHO there isn't a development environment that can even come close to matching it.
Spoken like someone with no experience in this area.
Whoa! How exactly is Cocoa any less cross-platform than Carbon? Cocoa is quite cross-platform, when you consider GNUstep. Carbon only ever has and only ever will run on Mac.
You obviously have never heard of FrameMaker, Illustrator, or the host of other apps that ran on Next back in the day.
I suspect that you were trolling anyway, given your anonymous post. Nice one.
Your point is? I think it'd be great if you could just run X11 apps in OS X. So do a lot of other people. That isn't going to change reality, though. Steve wouldn't ever include X11. If people need to port their app to OS X but can't or won't port the UI to Aqua, nobody is stopping them from including XDarwin in their installer.
Carbon is useful for what it does. However, just as nobody develops Win 3.1 apps anymore, people shouldn't be developing carbon apps. Cocoa is, truly, in all aspects, far superior.
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In the average apartment home in Japan, this is actually fast enough to do a few laps in a minute.
Yeah, because as everybody knows, business lUsers need more power than anybody. Powerpoint being such a processor hog and everything.
Seriously, though, does anybody else have a boss who needs a bogger monitor / faster PC than anyone else on the floor, just to show that they are "the BOSS"?
4 and 1/2 hours. That's how long it took my TIbook (DVI) to notify me that it was running on batteries. I had dual displays going (it was on my desktop), blaring MP3's, external USB mouse, and downloading shit like all get out.
Maybe your computer should be wedged under the short leg of your kitchen table where it belongs.
And we all know how likely that it is that companies will stop using misleading advertising, willingly. Or, that their employees (I mean our representatives) should compel them to tell the truth.
Which would leave you with a COMPLETELY annoying save file tucked away somewhere on your box.
95% of the Ogg fanboys are cheap.
I would LOVE to see you try to quantify that statement. I would guess that most Ogg fanboys are actually the dudes who had iPods (or another mp3 player) LONG before J-Lo and Tony Hawk and all your other standard consumers did. You know, the early adopters. The people who spend MORE money on gadgets than anyone else.
Try again.
In my area, the Animal Humane Society is not run by sadists who kill for sport. It is staffed mostly by volunteers who love animals, even the vets who have to euthanize the ones that don't get adopted. The vast majority of animals who aren't adopted have behavioral problems (like uncontrolled fits of violence) which would pretty much prevent them being adopted by 99.99999999999% of the folks out there.
I don't know where you are from, but I seriously doubt that your pound is run by bloodsport dog-fighting crazies.
I agree, however, with you that people should adopt animals.
The real criminals here are pet stores, which keep the "puppy mills" in business. If you want a dog, get it from a breeder that lives with and loves their animals, or the pound. NEVER a pet store.
Try Gentoo - it is known as well working with power on Macs
What? I have a hard time believing that Gentoo is better than any modern distro at Mac power management. Isn't that stuff generally handled in the kernel and with hdparm?
If you mean 1394 (firewire)
Yep. Thanks.
then Vist zip 250 and Sony DV are perfectly fine working firewire devices on both Linux/x86 and Linux/ppc boxes for me.
Most pro audio firewire devices are poorly supported in Linux or FreeBSD etc, because of the lack of applications such as Logic and Cubase.
I cannot run Cocoa applications on the other hardware platforms
Actually a well-behaved application may work on GNUstep quite nicely. It can certainly be engineered to do so.
One more time - who cares about fonts. I can read and that's enough.
I do. I wear glasses already and I don't want my vision getting any worse.
Maybe you don't get it. I really like Linux. A LOT! However, I really like OS X a lot too.
With RANDR even more - you will be able to migrate the window of your application from display on one computer to display on ANOTHER computer without interrupting the process of execution? I guess Cocoa cannot do it and will never do it - Cocoa GUI is not network compatible at all, is it?
Actually, it can. The technology is called portable distributed objects. It has existed for years, by the way.
Finally, can Cocoa rotate the screen on the fly?
Not the screen itself, but objects that would need such treatment are drawn as PDF and rotated by the display engine itself - using OpenGL on your 3D card!
Anyway, nice flame.
In my area, AT&T does NOT portscan, except in response to other portscans. It seems that they tolerate IDS and counter-scans. I have never had any problems with my cable modem. In fact, when the great "Death of @Home" happened, my line was down for 3 minutes. 3!
2 mb up, 2 down, is fine for me.
I live in Portland, where the broadband is cheap and plentiful.
Good reasons to switch to 10.2 from Linux/PPC or NetBSD or WHATEVER...
1. Better power management (crucial for me, with a TiG4 DVI).
2. Quake 3 !
3. EXCELLENT 1392 support. Linux is still flaky at times with many devices.
4. Cocoa API. This is a *REAL* serious reason.
5. First-rate font and color support.
6. Nice anti-aliasing isn't just eye-candy, it's great for extended-duration viewing, imho.
Have you priced out high-end unix lately? AIX and IRIX and (if you have a LOT of money) UNICOS upgrades can run WAY more than Windows.
While Windows-based server computers are growing increasingly powerful and can cost 40 percent less than Unix systems, open- source programs have improved enough to replace Unix systems, investors said.
Their use of UNIX instead of Linux indicates perhaps some dishonesty to me. Linux is probably way cheaper, but UNIX machines (Sun, SGI, IBM, Comp^H^H^H^H HP) can be way pricier.
Don't get mad at Be, Inc. A lot of folks who worked there are as pissed off as you are about the state of things. The whole problem can be traced back to one French fuckhead - Gasse. He is a stone cold bitch. He is the person who drilled Be into the ground, as it wasn't turning profit fast enough for him. As a sidebar, he just got fired from his new job, may he rot in hell.
The 'they' that you refer to is retinal imprint - and it doesn't always go away. I have one from a flash in the face that has been with me for 15 years or so now.
So, please don't shine a bright light directly into your eye. Not that you would anyway... Would you??
Just don't eat too many gummi bears before demoing this thing.
When Theo 'audits' different components of OpenBSD, he's really pulling tubes.
Which shows that you neglected to actually READ the article.
Dude, SonicBlue is already taken.
Oh, you guys are SOLIDblue. Sorry.
God, I *HOPE* that KAAAAAZZAAZAZAAA and morpheus are affected by this. The fucking gnutellanet has gone right down the shitter since those two clients muscled in on the GNUT action. (is kazazazazaaaza on the gnutellanet? i know morpheus is.)
No shit. That asshole is either living in his own fantasy world, drunk, on crack, or all three. Read his section on emulators for a deep vision of his stupidity.
Anyways when they checked my carry on luggage they ran it through an Xray. They made me take my trekking poles out to see what they were (they are poles for hiking). They didn't care about the pot that showed up as a big grey cylinder in the middle of my pack.
Dude, you're lucky they didn't take your pot!
Maybe it's time to learn a new UI. Quit sucking your thumb, get over the fact that the Apple menu is different, or shut up and remain an OS 9 user forever.
It was high time that Apple evolved. It was either that or die.
Except that one of the two results in apps that start faster and can run on an old OS that still has a big following.
Yeah, there are still a lot of people who use Nextstep / Openstep. It would be trivial to port most Cocoa apps to those old OS's.
As a side note, have you ever seen how fucking slow Explorer starts? Or Office X? Then launch a Cocoa app and see the difference. Especially under 10.2!
Anyway, every time I see the little watch, or the old monochrome spinny ball, I know I'm looking at old technology. The star trek project was anything but comprehensive or complete. Besides, that's a different animal, as the Mac ran on 68xxx hardware then.
I'm sorry if you feel that Carbon is as good as Cocoa, but you are just plain wrong. Apple has never said that Carbon is a rewrite. It's likely just the old Mac toolkit with most of the cruft removed. I am actually quite informed on this issue. Look into the Carbon documentation, though, and you'll still find much old cruft.
I have developed for the old Mac OS and refuse to touch Carbon. What a fucking mess! Cocoa has been beautiful since the 80's, and IMHO there isn't a development environment that can even come close to matching it.
Spoken like someone with no experience in this area.
Whoa! How exactly is Cocoa any less cross-platform than Carbon? Cocoa is quite cross-platform, when you consider GNUstep. Carbon only ever has and only ever will run on Mac.
You obviously have never heard of FrameMaker, Illustrator, or the host of other apps that ran on Next back in the day.
I suspect that you were trolling anyway, given your anonymous post. Nice one.
Your point is? I think it'd be great if you could just run X11 apps in OS X. So do a lot of other people. That isn't going to change reality, though. Steve wouldn't ever include X11. If people need to port their app to OS X but can't or won't port the UI to Aqua, nobody is stopping them from including XDarwin in their installer.
Carbon is useful for what it does. However, just as nobody develops Win 3.1 apps anymore, people shouldn't be developing carbon apps. Cocoa is, truly, in all aspects, far superior.
Oops! I accidentally hit submit. My completed post is the other one.