Leaving ANY market entirely to ANYONE is a bad thing. Google notwithstanding.
I use google, they are my homepage, I pretty much do ALL of my searches on google, but do I want them to destroy Yahoo and be the only major player in the market? NOPE!
"Don't be evil" goes out the window quickly when you have all the power.
If there is no one to compete against, then there is no reason for innovation. They spend that energy they would have spent on search would move elsewhere to try to become Google$
First off, our developers are either Java (resin engine) or.net Pretty much the only perl that gets written is by me and the other sysadmin. We do still have one ancient PHP app, I'd LOVE to nuke it, but development resources to rewrite it.....
Java developers run Linux kickstarted and set up to our environment (build system, installs required packages, sysadmins control the yum repository) they run dev on their own boxes, with their own java engines and apache.
Test mirrors production, only to a smaller scale (4 app servers in test, 12 in prod, 2 web servers in test, 8 in prod) beyond that they are exactly the same. same load balancers, etc. but they DON"T touch the same hardware EVER. I don't want a runaway test app taking out my disk space on the NAS for production, or whatever.
Production apps start out on one resin engine for a few weeks until they get some production use and we are sure they are not going to drop a money app. Then we move them to a production resin engine..net stuff and asp we are just getting into. basically its the same, test mirrors production, only smaller.. and they develop on their workstations. Beyond that its the same. dev, test, production.
We use CVS currently for versioning, One of the tasks on my plate are to move us to subversion with https access etc. got it mostly working, just linking it to AD to do.
Figure out what you need, and get some good libraries.
No one codes anything from scratch anymore. You combine libraries together and thats about it.:)
You ARE in the correct spot though, doing C / C++ actually teaches you how to code a bit. Here we use mostly java and some.net, which is not very conducive to any heavy programming.
Once you get some experience, start looking for jobs that fit the bill of what you want to do, find some OS projects doing what you want to do and volunteer to do some coding in those. Take the crap work, that teaches you the hard stuff. The rock star stuff comes later.
Completely hiding a VERY large part of the movie from appearing in trailers or being mentioned in reviews by professional reviewers I would actually consider forcing it on me. Had they made mention of it, I would have chosen to spend my money elsewhere that evening. I certainly would not have went and stood in front of the theater and said "eww. your going to see that movie? eww your gross" to whomever chose to go, but I personally choose not to see it.
To your second point, It is also not my fault they are in that circumstance. Why should I have to pay for it, and in the end, my kids have to pay for it? I didn't hit the guy with my car. I didn't force the african american child to live in poverty. I didn't impregnate his mother and leave her there to have the child in poverty. So quite frankly, why should I be forced to pay for them?
If I so choose to give to a charity, and I do when its one I belive in, or give someone work to do who needs the money, then I can (and do quite often) give them what I wish. I do not however see how it should be forced on me by others who then determine what to do with my money.
Sound cold and heartless? possibly. but where does it stop? If you give to this african american child, then what about this white middle class child whos parents are busting to keep residing in an excellent neighborhood with excellent schools. What if that kid can't have the clothes of the same brand as is popular at the time, so that child is ridiculed in school, and suffers humiliation from his piers. should we not then give that child his jeans?
No need to poor guy me. There are things that are sadly missing in society today. Self respect, honor, integrity, and respect for others. I could not have faced my children had I just holed up and collected welfare. How could I, as a person who decided it was easier to sit on my butt and collect welfare demand perfection from them in their school work? How could I, as that person, demand that they work hard for what they want out of life, and show them that something earned is worth far more than something given? How could I, once again as that person, set rules and limits when the food in their mouths and the roof over their heads were provided by someone else?
No thanks, I'll work the hours needed and be able to live with myself and face my kids.
Huh? What in the hell does gay marriage have to do with anything you listed there? Every single one of those is illegal in every single state with the exception of #4 which has nothing to do with gays, and there isn't anything you can do about it anyway except get divorced so she is not your wife any more while having sex with her yoga instructor.
But just for the hell of it, even though it makes absolutely no sense in the grand scheme of things, and has nothing at all to do with the topics mentioned..
1. I generally don't go to sleep in a situation where someone can have sex with my while I'm asleep except my wife. Unless they broke into my house, in which case the alarm would go off and they would be dead because I would put a 45 shell between their eyes. Completely legal in my state.
2. Illegal this time, but the above mentioned 45 shell in the above mentioned between the eyes would once again happen.
3. I have 4 boys, no daughters, if my 14 or 15 year old boys were having sex with their english teacher I would probably have a problem with it only because she is a teacher, therefore in a position of authority. I however personally remember having sex when I was 14, and with a 14 year old girl. Never had sex with a 35 year old in that age range, mostly because I was not attracted to them.
4. Hire a private eye, get it on tape, and then D-I-V-O-R-C-E
Sorry, have no sympathy for you. I was laid off from my tech job at the time in 2001 bla bla bla bubble burst, bla bla bla 9/11 bla bla bla and was laid off from permanent employment until this time 3 years ago. Beyond that, at the time I lived in a very small town in the middle of nowhere. Not a large market for tech workers. I also could not get a regular job because they took one look at I was making 60k and said nope, he will leave as soon as he get a big offer. Thats probably true enough.
So.. for almost 2 years, I did not (would not) take one single dime of aid from the government beyond my unemployment. I worked my ass off on the internet with only dial up access to find consulting work, I was working with 3 temp consulting companies, traveling probably 4 days a week on the road to keep myself working, my family fed, and my health insurance paid up. (get major medical and a little extra for the kids if you have them). So I worked probably 90 hours a week or so and slept in the car sometimes to make 40ish K for those two years, and keep everything rolling until a fulltime 70k sysadmin job come around, which I am still working, with full company paid healthcare.:)
You work for what you want. If you want work, you can find work. Its not my fault you are not willing to put in the effort. If I can do it from the middle of nowhere KY, you can do it from wherever you are.
Not saying for sure its you you are talking about, I don't know you. but whomever it is, pooey on them, Its not my fault they are lazy.
I could honestly care less about what people have sex with what people. I do kind of dislike having it forced on me. Personally I think two guys kissing et all is rather sick and disgusting. If they want to do it thats cool as hell. More women for me right?:) What I don't like is having it sprung on me and forced on me. Particularly in movies / TV shows. Went to see Taladaga nights. I like Will Farrel, he is funny as hell. Not one single place in any trailer / early review did it say anything about dudes frenching all throughout the movie. So we went opening day, and shazam. A guy should be warned about that in advance. but then again, very few people would go see it.
thats kind of off the point, but... I am one for the government staying out of everything. I don't want government aid, and I want them the hell out of my pocket. We can discuss whatever needs to be discussed, but the great grandparent (the one I originally replied to) said oh well this stuff is ultra important to everyone bla bla bla. I REALLY don't like people telling me how I should and should not think. He can pretty much kiss my ass while its dirty.
So now you have become the all important person who gets to pick what is of value and what is not? YOU and you alone determine what everyone else must think?
If taking more of my money away from me so some asshole can have meds to keep him alive and kicking, (and taking more of my money) longer must now be more important to me because you say so, rather than... I don't know, some evil dictator somewhere who could soon have the power to actually blow up my house or some "religious" group who HAS blown up a bunch of actual productive members of our society, then I guess I may as well go ahead and kill myself. But wait, that would take my income out of your little socialist utopian dream world of free meds for bums.
Stallman has his own little political agenda, and he won't waver from it.
Several years ago, before sourceforge and the like I had a web hosting company. I offered free hosting to all open source projects. cvs server, ftp access, etc etc etc. I sent a message to RMS to see if he wanted to put something on FSF.org offering the free hosting. He replied back that because I used the word Linux, and not GNU/Linux he wouldn't host the link. It was for FREE FREAKING HOSTING. The guy is a tard.
LOL thats pretty funny right there, I don't care who you are.
I was actually downloading umbutu (Yes the spellilng is wrong, at work now so don't have it in front of me) linux to talk a look at it and some other misc stuff.
Good thing I don't give a crap about mod points. The commies who hate america and troll anything that is pro america are taking them from me. You can't argue with a lib, they just scream louder and yell how you are a biggot/racist/homophobe/whatever word comes to mind even if it has nothing to do with the conversation at all.
Cracks me up, but not as much as your movie thing.:)
you people crack me up. All those "Cheap" connections you claim to have, (which btw are in the same range as I pay for mine) I have 4MB down, 1.5MB up, for $29.95/month USD. I also downloaded 4 GB of data last night, and I probably download close to 50 GB of data per month. Costs me $29.95. how much would that cost you? (assuming that you are in the UK since you love their socialist society much better than the free market Capitalism in the US)With the extras these people have to purchase for bandwidth above 1GB PER MONTH, it would cost hundreds or thousands per month to do what we do here for free.
So, you get a 24mb connection or whatever. at that rate, you can use it for 41 seconds at full speed per month.:)
Yea, thats MUCH better than my 4 that I can use constantly.:)
I wish, for one second that libtards would THINK before they open their mouths to scream crap that is so completely wrong its not even funny.
Sorry, but my blood pressure would rise if some cop comes up to me and starts interrogating me in the middle of an airport. most people almost have a heart attack when they are driving and you see the blue and red lights roll up behind you. I don't see how this is the slightest bit effective.
Just a little melodramatic there are you? People don't almost have heart attacks when cops pull them over. A little nervous perhaps, but almost a heart attack??? GMAFB
You people crack me up. You get mad because you have to take off your shoes to get on a plane but when a plane is hijacked, you say "Oh, and you could not have done more to find them before they blew the plane up?"
I also wish things would go back to normal, but I'm not going to blame airport security or the FBI when some wackjob blows up a plane. I'm going to blame the wackjob, and nuke the country that supported his handlers.
I like anarchy online. Play it quite a bit. not a buttload of cash outlay like some of the others, and not the glut of sit and wait for 3 days camping this mob before you can go anywhere else or do any thing else.
Actually that goes for everything audio and video. If you screw it up from the source then nothing is working as it should. if the source is good, then it travels through the series much better.
I spend more money at the source and still have my old onkio t500 receiver. its a decent receiver, but everything around it is better quality, so everything running through it approaches excellent.:)
"That is FUD pure and simple. Unless I'm clueless, backdoors are software not hardware"
Your clueless.
Backdoors can be placed in firmware in a chip or hard coded into a chip. With millions of transistors in even the smallest chips, how hard would it be for them to put in a couple, in the bus path, or the network communications path, or any number of other places that kick back and listen for X. when X happens, open a link on an unsuspecting port encrypted and give full access to the box, or log keys and wait for something to happen or some set time and dump the data somewhere.
there are many many many ways this can be done and hidden, and anyone with even a slight technical background could point this out.
Why do clueless people bother to voice their uninformed opionions on something? The standard liberal montra. Scream louder than anyone else and the crap you are spewing becomes true?
A companies first offer is their lowball, god what if this sucker goes for it offer. If you are currently employed, you have no pressure, so hit them back with a counter equally far above what you want. work your way to what you want, or as close as you can get them.
I have worked with folks who took the first offer, and made WELL below me for the same work.
BTW, I'm a UNIX system administrator, who does windoze only when absolutely required.
I'll take mine over yours any day. Mine does ISCSI, Fiber Channel, 175,000 NFS operations per second, will mount windows machines, boot blade servers, and all that, with 5 9's uptime. (coupletely redundant including all heads and drive storage.)
Mine is expandable to 80TB, 2 is all we need at the moment.
Sounds VERY strange to me. We only have 2TB of storage and its raid 10.
To answer your question.. you get what you pay for. The last sysadmin here was a lets do it on the cheap kinda guy, and it took me 2 years to fix that shit. The way you save the cash is you play vendors off each other. I just bought a fully redundant high speed storage array that does everything for 82k. (list price is around 180k) Took a few weeks, and I played vendors off each other like mad puppies, but I got more than I wanted for what I wanted to pay.
If you try to do storage on the cheap, 75 tb of storage for what I'm paying for 2 is cheap, so if your budget is under 150k or so, then look for another job. You are never going to have anything but problems.
Everything on one drive is a huge problem too... seek time will be out of this world.
Slashdot Mirror
here is a link I found.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=ac6jnk1bz4nM&refer=us
not much info in it, but hey... its a link.
Leaving ANY market entirely to ANYONE is a bad thing. Google notwithstanding.
I use google, they are my homepage, I pretty much do ALL of my searches on google, but do I want them to destroy Yahoo and be the only major player in the market? NOPE!
"Don't be evil" goes out the window quickly when you have all the power.
If there is no one to compete against, then there is no reason for innovation. They spend that energy they would have spent on search would move elsewhere to try to become Google$
Decent. The way we do it is...
.net .....
.net stuff and asp we are just getting into. basically its the same, test mirrors production, only smaller.. and they develop on their workstations. Beyond that its the same. dev, test, production.
First off, our developers are either Java (resin engine) or
Pretty much the only perl that gets written is by me and the other sysadmin. We do still have one ancient PHP app, I'd LOVE to nuke it, but development resources to rewrite it
Java developers run Linux kickstarted and set up to our environment (build system, installs required packages, sysadmins control the yum repository) they run dev on their own boxes, with their own java engines and apache.
Test mirrors production, only to a smaller scale (4 app servers in test, 12 in prod, 2 web servers in test, 8 in prod) beyond that they are exactly the same. same load balancers, etc. but they DON"T touch the same hardware EVER. I don't want a runaway test app taking out my disk space on the NAS for production, or whatever.
Production apps start out on one resin engine for a few weeks until they get some production use and we are sure they are not going to drop a money app. Then we move them to a production resin engine.
We use CVS currently for versioning, One of the tasks on my plate are to move us to subversion with https access etc. got it mostly working, just linking it to AD to do.
Figure out what you need, and get some good libraries.
:)
.net, which is not very conducive to any heavy programming.
No one codes anything from scratch anymore. You combine libraries together and thats about it.
You ARE in the correct spot though, doing C / C++ actually teaches you how to code a bit. Here we use mostly java and some
Once you get some experience, start looking for jobs that fit the bill of what you want to do, find some OS projects doing what you want to do and volunteer to do some coding in those. Take the crap work, that teaches you the hard stuff. The rock star stuff comes later.
Completely hiding a VERY large part of the movie from appearing in trailers or being mentioned in reviews by professional reviewers I would actually consider forcing it on me. Had they made mention of it, I would have chosen to spend my money elsewhere that evening. I certainly would not have went and stood in front of the theater and said "eww. your going to see that movie? eww your gross" to whomever chose to go, but I personally choose not to see it.
To your second point, It is also not my fault they are in that circumstance. Why should I have to pay for it, and in the end, my kids have to pay for it? I didn't hit the guy with my car. I didn't force the african american child to live in poverty. I didn't impregnate his mother and leave her there to have the child in poverty. So quite frankly, why should I be forced to pay for them?
If I so choose to give to a charity, and I do when its one I belive in, or give someone work to do who needs the money, then I can (and do quite often) give them what I wish. I do not however see how it should be forced on me by others who then determine what to do with my money.
Sound cold and heartless? possibly. but where does it stop? If you give to this african american child, then what about this white middle class child whos parents are busting to keep residing in an excellent neighborhood with excellent schools. What if that kid can't have the clothes of the same brand as is popular at the time, so that child is ridiculed in school, and suffers humiliation from his piers. should we not then give that child his jeans?
No need to poor guy me. There are things that are sadly missing in society today. Self respect, honor, integrity, and respect for others. I could not have faced my children had I just holed up and collected welfare. How could I, as a person who decided it was easier to sit on my butt and collect welfare demand perfection from them in their school work? How could I, as that person, demand that they work hard for what they want out of life, and show them that something earned is worth far more than something given? How could I, once again as that person, set rules and limits when the food in their mouths and the roof over their heads were provided by someone else?
No thanks, I'll work the hours needed and be able to live with myself and face my kids.
Huh? What in the hell does gay marriage have to do with anything you listed there? Every single one of those is illegal in every single state with the exception of #4 which has nothing to do with gays, and there isn't anything you can do about it anyway except get divorced so she is not your wife any more while having sex with her yoga instructor.
But just for the hell of it, even though it makes absolutely no sense in the grand scheme of things, and has nothing at all to do with the topics mentioned..
1. I generally don't go to sleep in a situation where someone can have sex with my while I'm asleep except my wife. Unless they broke into my house, in which case the alarm would go off and they would be dead because I would put a 45 shell between their eyes. Completely legal in my state.
2. Illegal this time, but the above mentioned 45 shell in the above mentioned between the eyes would once again happen.
3. I have 4 boys, no daughters, if my 14 or 15 year old boys were having sex with their english teacher I would probably have a problem with it only because she is a teacher, therefore in a position of authority. I however personally remember having sex when I was 14, and with a 14 year old girl. Never had sex with a 35 year old in that age range, mostly because I was not attracted to them.
4. Hire a private eye, get it on tape, and then D-I-V-O-R-C-E
Sorry, have no sympathy for you. I was laid off from my tech job at the time in 2001 bla bla bla bubble burst, bla bla bla 9/11 bla bla bla and was laid off from permanent employment until this time 3 years ago. Beyond that, at the time I lived in a very small town in the middle of nowhere. Not a large market for tech workers. I also could not get a regular job because they took one look at I was making 60k and said nope, he will leave as soon as he get a big offer. Thats probably true enough.
:)
So.. for almost 2 years, I did not (would not) take one single dime of aid from the government beyond my unemployment. I worked my ass off on the internet with only dial up access to find consulting work, I was working with 3 temp consulting companies, traveling probably 4 days a week on the road to keep myself working, my family fed, and my health insurance paid up. (get major medical and a little extra for the kids if you have them). So I worked probably 90 hours a week or so and slept in the car sometimes to make 40ish K for those two years, and keep everything rolling until a fulltime 70k sysadmin job come around, which I am still working, with full company paid healthcare.
You work for what you want. If you want work, you can find work. Its not my fault you are not willing to put in the effort. If I can do it from the middle of nowhere KY, you can do it from wherever you are.
Not saying for sure its you you are talking about, I don't know you. but whomever it is, pooey on them, Its not my fault they are lazy.
I could honestly care less about what people have sex with what people. I do kind of dislike having it forced on me. Personally I think two guys kissing et all is rather sick and disgusting. If they want to do it thats cool as hell. More women for me right? :) What I don't like is having it sprung on me and forced on me. Particularly in movies / TV shows. Went to see Taladaga nights. I like Will Farrel, he is funny as hell. Not one single place in any trailer / early review did it say anything about dudes frenching all throughout the movie. So we went opening day, and shazam. A guy should be warned about that in advance. but then again, very few people would go see it.
thats kind of off the point, but... I am one for the government staying out of everything. I don't want government aid, and I want them the hell out of my pocket. We can discuss whatever needs to be discussed, but the great grandparent (the one I originally replied to) said oh well this stuff is ultra important to everyone bla bla bla. I REALLY don't like people telling me how I should and should not think. He can pretty much kiss my ass while its dirty.
So now you have become the all important person who gets to pick what is of value and what is not? YOU and you alone determine what everyone else must think?
If taking more of my money away from me so some asshole can have meds to keep him alive and kicking, (and taking more of my money) longer must now be more important to me because you say so, rather than... I don't know, some evil dictator somewhere who could soon have the power to actually blow up my house or some "religious" group who HAS blown up a bunch of actual productive members of our society, then I guess I may as well go ahead and kill myself. But wait, that would take my income out of your little socialist utopian dream world of free meds for bums.
Stallman has his own little political agenda, and he won't waver from it.
Several years ago, before sourceforge and the like I had a web hosting company. I offered free hosting to all open source projects. cvs server, ftp access, etc etc etc. I sent a message to RMS to see if he wanted to put something on FSF.org offering the free hosting. He replied back that because I used the word Linux, and not GNU/Linux he wouldn't host the link. It was for FREE FREAKING HOSTING. The guy is a tard.
So instead, we are to listen to whatever crap these people (the hottest time ever) people, because they are of course omnipotent and infallable?
I think not.
LOL thats pretty funny right there, I don't care who you are.
:)
I was actually downloading umbutu (Yes the spellilng is wrong, at work now so don't have it in front of me) linux to talk a look at it and some other misc stuff.
Good thing I don't give a crap about mod points. The commies who hate america and troll anything that is pro america are taking them from me. You can't argue with a lib, they just scream louder and yell how you are a biggot/racist/homophobe/whatever word comes to mind even if it has nothing to do with the conversation at all.
Cracks me up, but not as much as your movie thing.
you people crack me up. All those "Cheap" connections you claim to have, (which btw are in the same range as I pay for mine) I have 4MB down, 1.5MB up, for $29.95/month USD. I also downloaded 4 GB of data last night, and I probably download close to 50 GB of data per month. Costs me $29.95. how much would that cost you? (assuming that you are in the UK since you love their socialist society much better than the free market Capitalism in the US)With the extras these people have to purchase for bandwidth above 1GB PER MONTH, it would cost hundreds or thousands per month to do what we do here for free.
:)
:)
So, you get a 24mb connection or whatever. at that rate, you can use it for 41 seconds at full speed per month.
Yea, thats MUCH better than my 4 that I can use constantly.
I wish, for one second that libtards would THINK before they open their mouths to scream crap that is so completely wrong its not even funny.
-- VAST DISTANCE --
You -- This is you. FAR from a clue lost in your own bile somewhere.
Youseetimmy, this is whats called a joke. ISS, International space station, why would IBM want an international space station.. etc etc etc.
Damn dude, you need to get laid or something.
Just a little melodramatic there are you? People don't almost have heart attacks when cops pull them over. A little nervous perhaps, but almost a heart attack??? GMAFB
You people crack me up. You get mad because you have to take off your shoes to get on a plane but when a plane is hijacked, you say "Oh, and you could not have done more to find them before they blew the plane up?"
I also wish things would go back to normal, but I'm not going to blame airport security or the FBI when some wackjob blows up a plane. I'm going to blame the wackjob, and nuke the country that supported his handlers.
We use far too few nukes.
And I quothe "Lousy acting, lame plots, almost no finish. Sorry, but it simply doesn't live up to today's standards.
I thought DS9 was the gem in the group, but almost no one agrees there; oddly, some geeks just can't handle a coherent plot."
OK, anyone who states that the flying diaphragm in space was the best star trek is no longer allowed to talk about star trek.
LOL NP. I hope they do well enough financially to keep the game going.
It does have a mix of guns and swords, which is pretty cool. and cool high techy bows and of course alien equipment.
I like anarchy online. Play it quite a bit. not a buttload of cash outlay like some of the others, and not the glut of sit and wait for 3 days camping this mob before you can go anywhere else or do any thing else.
I Fvcking hated that about EQ and WOW.
Actually that goes for everything audio and video. If you screw it up from the source then nothing is working as it should. if the source is good, then it travels through the series much better.
:)
I spend more money at the source and still have my old onkio t500 receiver. its a decent receiver, but everything around it is better quality, so everything running through it approaches excellent.
"That is FUD pure and simple. Unless I'm clueless, backdoors are software not hardware"
Your clueless.
Backdoors can be placed in firmware in a chip or hard coded into a chip. With millions of transistors in even the smallest chips, how hard would it be for them to put in a couple, in the bus path, or the network communications path, or any number of other places that kick back and listen for X. when X happens, open a link on an unsuspecting port encrypted and give full access to the box, or log keys and wait for something to happen or some set time and dump the data somewhere.
there are many many many ways this can be done and hidden, and anyone with even a slight technical background could point this out.
Why do clueless people bother to voice their uninformed opionions on something? The standard liberal montra. Scream louder than anyone else and the crap you are spewing becomes true?
A companies first offer is their lowball, god what if this sucker goes for it offer. If you are currently employed, you have no pressure, so hit them back with a counter equally far above what you want. work your way to what you want, or as close as you can get them.
I have worked with folks who took the first offer, and made WELL below me for the same work.
BTW, I'm a UNIX system administrator, who does windoze only when absolutely required.
Population density != intellegence
Actually I have found the reverse to be true, to a point. With a dense population, you have more stupid people per square block.
I'll take mine over yours any day. Mine does ISCSI, Fiber Channel, 175,000 NFS operations per second, will mount windows machines, boot blade servers, and all that, with 5 9's uptime. (coupletely redundant including all heads and drive storage.)
Mine is expandable to 80TB, 2 is all we need at the moment.
Sounds VERY strange to me. We only have 2TB of storage and its raid 10.
To answer your question.. you get what you pay for. The last sysadmin here was a lets do it on the cheap kinda guy, and it took me 2 years to fix that shit. The way you save the cash is you play vendors off each other. I just bought a fully redundant high speed storage array that does everything for 82k. (list price is around 180k) Took a few weeks, and I played vendors off each other like mad puppies, but I got more than I wanted for what I wanted to pay.
If you try to do storage on the cheap, 75 tb of storage for what I'm paying for 2 is cheap, so if your budget is under 150k or so, then look for another job. You are never going to have anything but problems.
Everything on one drive is a huge problem too... seek time will be out of this world.