sheesh... what language did you write that in? Is it perl? You Obfuscator! Perl should be used only when you need something accomplished (and when you are sure no one else will ever look at it)...
Here is your masterpiece in C:
if (!johnny->can(thing()) thing();
Or if you necessarily need to obfuscate a bit: johnny->can(thing()) ? not_thing() : thing();
There.. clean as a newborn baby:) And I betcha it's a bit faster...;)
Linus is most definitely not born on Oct 29, unless he likes lying to Linux Journal readers/interviewers.
Citing directly from the last issue of "Linux Journal" (Interview of Marjorie Richardson with Linus): Q: Let's start with the beginning. When were you born? When? A: Helsinki, Finland, December 28, 1969.
Q: Practically a Christmas Birthday! A: Yes, it isn't a good time tp be born if you like getting lots of presents [....]
As a poster before me mentioned this proves (pretty much) to me that he is in fact born in december (and a better day to be born it certainly is!)..
NB: The citation above is printed without permission from LJ, hope they will forgive me.
You are right, it should be the user time spent that matters, My fault, I admit. However I tested the same compiled with -O2 and the results were no different. There was a difference, however not as big as the 100% I get on my home AMD. I tested it on the alpha too, however they have not provided a gcc there. The DEC C compiler they had was running just a hint faster than the ccc on x86. I wouldn't like to comment on whether GCC should be used implicitly (I'm not advertising for that ccc too), but IMHO the tools they have can only improve what we already have. Then again I am still sticking with gcc no matter what -- I simply don't want to *buy* a C compiler;)
I was playing along with a small encryption program I have written (Idea implementation) which takes suitable amount of time on my home machine. The results are fascinating:
Encrypting a file named "data" without any compiler optimization switches took:
As you can see, things are pretty freaky.. 42 seconds with ccc (*their* compiler) versus 4.31 minutes with gcc. I could've compiled with -02 however that optimizes code about 2 times only...
Anyone have a comment on that? Hmm.. btw this happened on the RedHat machine. I'm still to test on the Tru64:)
The technique used by this anti-sniffer is to check for machines lagging in replys due to the small amount of time it takes the sniffer to write everything on disk.
It's fairly easy to modify the current sniffers to drop the promiscuous mode once they detect the huge amount of packets sent by the AntiSniffer
My $.02
Re: FreeBSD? Unfortunately not a NT market threat
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Well, I guess that's why it's not benchmarked - sadly BSD's are not currently in the position to threat NT's dominance...
However I'm pretty sure they'd be benchmarked (and benchmarked badly I'm sure) the first second they start showing as a competitor... (How many of the IT's have heard of CDROM.com's recent record?)
I think he was a complete whiny/bitchy ass*cough*le:)) What have we here -- he discovered an "error", posted it on bugtraq (I presume) tried to post it on slashdot, created a "security web page" (triple quotes here people!! the guy has created something that a 5yo kid would do using Netscape Composer.. and would probably choose better colour for the background) and is now goddamn whiny because NO ONE GAVE HIM THE CREDIT HE DESERVED!!! Sheesh! you should've staied just an attorney:) Or maybe post the bug report as an AC on slashdot:P
hehe, one can see this only on AOL.com
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OpenGL is a registered trademark of Silcon Graphics Incorporated. To get more information about OpenGL, visit thier website at www.OpenGL.org
Look at the link..:) look at where it's pointing.. Visit the webpage, and tri to click on the very same link at the very bottom..:)
If using Lynx - then sorry...
;)
hehe, one can see this only on AOL.com
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Excerpt from the source of the web page:
OpenGL is a registered trademark of Silcon Graphics Incorporated. To get more information about OpenGL, visit thier website at www.OpenGL.org
Thier website is not on yer server:)
I hope this is just a misspelled error:)
On the other hand it's not very nice to create a page, and immediately advertise it on slashdot.. Maybe you should wait someone else to recognize your creation and request that it's published here:)
I think the guy is right.. For the average user (he is above average) the reason not to stick with Linux is exactly Word..
Computers have received their name from the word Compute, but nowadays they are mostly used by curly women in small cubicles for writing useless reports...
Unfortunately guys like us/you (I'm just learning;-) are not the majority...
The only difference between him and me, is that he does not know what Star Office is..:)
Now, before you Linux-lovers whip out your flame throwers, let me say this: I like Linux. Microsoft needs all the competition it can get. Linux is good for consumers. Can you support an OS just because somebody else needs competition? The guy has no idea what the real benefits of Linux are...
As it was brought over/. these days, there have been some personal issues going wrong in the top of the OS community.. (Which is sad to hear).. I know there are many people involved, and everyone is entytked to his/her opinion.. However I'd like to share this story as an example of the behaviour and closeness these two guys, who contributed enormously to the computing world...
I remember reading in one of Ken Thompson's papers how they unintentionally made the same small ASm program.. And it happened to be that they both have produced almost exactly the same code...
As impossible as it seems, it's a food for thought.. maybe there is that one/two/three people in the world, who think the same way we do.. and maybe close coupling with a pal will produce better code, than the egoistic all-nighters many of us pull...:)) What do you think?
IMHO this is just a bullshitty-buzzword-filled article....:)
You try to give everything to everyone, and you end up giving nothing - e.g. WinNT/9x...
And besides - who spends 15 years working in the very low level processor design field, and ends up with a *tremendous* break through in the OOP products (as they claim in their release)
I said hackity hack type of guy.. Read his previuos articles and you will see what I mean.. The guy was having hard time installing linux.. I do think though, that he will (as will any user with moderate education) find his way through and will (finally) be able to enjoy linux the way we all do... You can see it in his eyes - the guy likes it:)
The good news -- I wrote on Linux, saw the Sacred Kernel, browsed the terminal logs, did some hacking, even played Asteroids.
OK, the Asteroids part is OK, however the HACKING is something I don't think Katz is able to do (remember, he has never seen the internal parts of a computer before this one came - and he saw these only because the puter was broken)... My complaint is that he is NOT, repeat NOT to use the word HACK in his posts... He is just not that hackity hack type of person. If he was, he would've installed Linux without problems...
A person who has played Asteroids is not a HACKER...
Remember, this is from a person who has used Linux for 2 years already and stil ldoes not consider himself a hacker... (maybe because I like to play XGalaga:P )
Slashdot Mirror
There is a reason Plan 9 from bell Labs is not mentioned here -- it is a perfectly good name for an OS!!
Well, two parallel lines will never intersect with omega > 1 too :) However the distance between them will grow..
You cited the saddle above, I suppose you would agree with me.
sheesh... what language did you write that in? Is it perl? You Obfuscator! Perl should be used only when you need something accomplished (and when you are sure no one else will ever look at it)...
:) ;)
Here is your masterpiece in C:
if (!johnny->can(thing())
thing();
Or if you necessarily need to obfuscate a bit:
johnny->can(thing()) ? not_thing() : thing();
There.. clean as a newborn baby
And I betcha it's a bit faster...
Flame On!
How dare you moderate the only sane person in this discussion as a flamebait?
.au files? Or simply you don't know how? :)
Sheesh, of all the ones who argue their pants off over stupid one-line-answered topics you picked the pearl and threw it to the pigs... Shame on you..
(Or should we assume you cannot play
Flame On!
Oh yeah, pardon my english :)
The game links versus libGL.so.1, and for those of you who don't have the original GLs it will report an error.
/usr/lib (at least my RH6.0 rpm has put them there) to libMesa.so.3.
/usr/lib/libMesa.so.3 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
;)
Well, if it does, you will need to softlink a libGL.so.1 file in
Here is the command I issued:
ln -s
I hope it helps those who still remember it
Rgrdz
Linus is most definitely not born on Oct 29, unless he likes lying to Linux Journal readers/interviewers.
Citing directly from the last issue of "Linux Journal" (Interview of Marjorie Richardson with Linus):
Q: Let's start with the beginning. When were you born? When?
A: Helsinki, Finland, December 28, 1969.
Q: Practically a Christmas Birthday!
A: Yes, it isn't a good time tp be born if you like getting lots of presents [....]
As a poster before me mentioned this proves (pretty much) to me that he is in fact born in december (and a better day to be born it certainly is!)..
NB: The citation above is printed without permission from LJ, hope they will forgive me.
Cheers!
You are right, it should be the user time spent that matters, ;)
My fault, I admit. However I tested the same compiled with -O2 and the results were no different.
There was a difference, however not as big as the 100% I get on my home AMD.
I tested it on the alpha too, however they have not provided a gcc there. The DEC C compiler
they had was running just a hint faster than the ccc on x86.
I wouldn't like to comment on whether GCC should be used implicitly (I'm not advertising for that ccc too), but IMHO the tools they have can only improve what we already have.
Then again I am still sticking with gcc no matter what -- I simply don't want to *buy* a C compiler
Ragards: F2F
I was playing along with a small encryption program I have written (Idea implementation) which takes suitable amount of time on my home machine.
./encrypt_cc ./encrypt_ccc
:)
The results are fascinating:
Encrypting a file named "data" without any compiler optimization switches took:
[ph2ph@spe85 ~]$ ls -la data
-rw-r--r-- 1 ph2ph nis 76592295 Sep 24 21:46 data
[ph2ph@spe85 ~]$ time
72.125u 1.414s 4:31.80 27.0% 0+0k 0+0io 76pf+0w
[ph2ph@spe85 ~]$ time
26.203u 1.169s 0:42.64 64.1% 0+0k 0+0io 78pf+0w
As you can see, things are pretty freaky.. 42 seconds with ccc (*their* compiler) versus 4.31 minutes with gcc. I could've compiled with -02 however that optimizes code about 2 times only...
Anyone have a comment on that? Hmm.. btw this happened on the RedHat machine. I'm still to test on the Tru64
As discussed on Bugtraq.
The technique used by this anti-sniffer is to check for machines lagging in replys due to the small amount of time it takes the sniffer to write everything on disk.
It's fairly easy to modify the current sniffers to drop the promiscuous mode once they detect the huge amount of packets sent by the AntiSniffer
My $.02
Well, I guess that's why it's not benchmarked - sadly BSD's are not currently in the position to threat NT's dominance...
.02
However I'm pretty sure they'd be benchmarked (and benchmarked badly I'm sure) the first second they start showing as a competitor... (How many of the IT's have heard of CDROM.com's recent record?)
My
I would not have sent the link to slashdot, if the article was not signed with 03/26/1999 date.
:)
For all of you that have already seen it - there are many more people who need to know this stuff.. It is as important, as it's entertaining..
Or maybe you will not read K&R just because it was written so long ago???
Cheers
I think he was a complete whiny/bitchy ass*cough*le :)) What have we here -- he discovered an "error", posted it on bugtraq (I presume) tried to post it on slashdot, created a "security web page" (triple quotes here people!! the guy has created something that a 5yo kid would do using Netscape Composer.. and would probably choose better colour for the background) and is now goddamn whiny because NO ONE GAVE HIM THE CREDIT HE DESERVED!!! Sheesh! you should've staied just an attorney :) Or maybe post the bug report as an AC on slashdot :P
OpenGL is a registered trademark of Silcon Graphics Incorporated.
To get more information about OpenGL, visit thier website at www.OpenGL.org
Look at the link.. :) look at where it's pointing.. :)
Visit the webpage, and tri to click on the very same link at the very bottom..
If using Lynx - then sorry...
;)
Excerpt from the source of the web page:
:)
:)
:)
;)
OpenGL is a registered trademark of Silcon Graphics Incorporated.
To get more information about OpenGL, visit thier website at www.OpenGL.org
Thier website is not on yer server
I hope this is just a misspelled error
On the other hand it's not very nice to create a page, and immediately advertise it on slashdot.. Maybe you should wait someone else to recognize your creation and request that it's published here
Flame ON
s/guy/girl/
Ipologize.. But I barely made it out of the tree this morning -- too much bananas last night..
the monkey
I think the guy is right.. For the average user (he is above average) the reason not to stick with Linux is exactly Word..
;-) are not the majority...
:)
Computers have received their name from the word Compute, but nowadays they are mostly used by curly women in small cubicles for writing useless reports...
Unfortunately guys like us/you (I'm just learning
The only difference between him and me, is that he does not know what Star Office is..
You guys make us proud! :P
Keep it up!
Now, before you Linux-lovers whip out your flame throwers, let me say this: I like Linux. Microsoft needs all the competition it can get. Linux is good for consumers. Can you support an OS just because somebody else needs competition? The guy has no idea what the real benefits of Linux are...
As it was brought over /. these days, there have been some personal issues going wrong in the top of the OS community.. (Which is sad to hear).. I know there are many people involved, and everyone is entytked to his/her opinion.. However I'd like to share this story as an example of the behaviour and closeness these two guys, who contributed enormously to the computing world...
:)) What do you think?
:-)
I remember reading in one of Ken Thompson's papers how they unintentionally made the same small ASm program.. And it happened to be that they both have produced almost exactly the same code...
As impossible as it seems, it's a food for thought.. maybe there is that one/two/three people in the world, who think the same way we do.. and maybe close coupling with a pal will produce better code, than the egoistic all-nighters many of us pull...
--Flame On!
IMHO this is just a bullshitty-buzzword-filled article.... :)
You try to give everything to everyone, and you end up giving nothing - e.g. WinNT/9x...
And besides - who spends 15 years working in the very low level processor design field, and ends up with a *tremendous* break through in the OOP products (as they claim in their release)
Flame On!
Probably they have a butterfly router :)
I said hackity hack type of guy.. Read his previuos articles and you will see what I mean.. The guy was having hard time installing linux.. I do think though, that he will (as will any user with moderate education) find his way through and will (finally) be able to enjoy linux the way we all do... You can see it in his eyes - the guy likes it :)
The good news -- I wrote on Linux, saw the Sacred Kernel, browsed the terminal logs, did some hacking, even played Asteroids.
:P )
:)
OK, the Asteroids part is OK, however the HACKING is something I don't think Katz is able to do (remember, he has never seen the internal parts of a computer before this one came - and he saw these only because the puter was broken)...
My complaint is that he is NOT, repeat NOT to use the word HACK in his posts... He is just not that hackity hack type of person. If he was, he would've installed Linux without problems...
A person who has played Asteroids is not a HACKER...
Remember, this is from a person who has used Linux for 2 years already and stil ldoes not consider himself a hacker... (maybe because I like to play XGalaga
Flame On