First, if you actually wrote a proper website in the first place, you do NOT need to create or maintain two versions. This is a myth perpetrated by incompetent self-styled "designers" that never bothered to learn to understand the media they're working in.
I have a question.. how do you fit images that are 250 pixels wide on a screen that is only 100 pixels wide?
One more question - how do you use the same version of your HTML output for WAP devices?
You can preach all day about not needing two sites but some devices, such as devices that use WAP, will need a seperate versions.
I do understand what you are trying to say, I read plenty of books and try to avoid being the "new media guy" connected to a device at all times, but sometimes I do want to check a sports score and so I go to my cell phone, log on and check the scores.
To me it's kind of like RSS. When I see a news site that doesn't provide an RSS feed I wonder what the hell they are thinking. It becomes useful and so we complain when someone doesn't have it.
My take on this issue is that it's not rteally an issue at all. Web site creators can determine the content type based on the access device, they just choose not too. I was creating these type of sites in the late 1990s, so I know it can be done. The tools are much better now, people just have to use them. The creators will have to determine if it's worth their while.
What I don't understand is why free? I mean I understand why it's better for me, but why not just charge a small fee to keep my data stored for life? I'd certainly pay for it.
True. But the experience for IE users can be worse. On the page you can say, "Best viewed with Firefox" and then have a link to www.mozilla.org. M$ has been doing this crap for years. Maybe its time for M$ to get a taste of its own medicine.
Sure thing.. if the mission of your business is "to cause problems for Microsoft". But if the mission of your business is to reach the users then perhaps you should rethink that strategy. The user experience comes before your personal biases. That's part of being a developer.
This isn't an episode of Ghost in the Shell. I have a soul and robots don't. I'm gonna be the robot biggot 50 years from now oppressing them! Sit down machine and shut up!;-)
A soul is what made you ask that question in the first place. It's hard to define but you know it when you see it.
Why not go with more structurally efficient designs, like a spider, instead of focusing on bipedal bots for uses requiring ambulation?
As long as it has a face I can punch I don't care what shape it comes in.
But in all seriousness I do agree, the quest for human shaped robots is intriguing. We are obviously not the most able bodied creatures when it comes to our "form factor", our superiority is not in our shape but in our huge monkey brain.
Maybe it's to out people at ease, but I for one do _not_ welcome our new humanoid robot overlords. It creeps me out when things that don't have a soul start talking to me. Call me crazy.
Specifically I thought that the GameCube not having a DVD player was really it's achilles heal. I understand that they wanted a smaller form factor but I think this was a bad decision. Nintendo has yet to recognize adults as gamers too, we want a machine that does other things besides just play games. This is just one example.
Nintendo also does not appeal to adult gamers as much with it's game base. Adults want to play games with adult themes that might not be suitable for children. But Nintendo would rather give us another Mario Cart, which is a fun game, but might not be flag ship that gets the console sold to adults.
But even though I speculate about why I stay away from Nintendo, if you take a look around the web in game development forums the thing that really sealed the deal on the GameCube was their inability to lure game developers to their platform by limiting access to their development tools, APIs, etc. Microsoft has known that this relationship with developers is key to getting games on their platforms so I hope that Nintendo follows their lead in this area and gets back in the game.
I grew up on Nintendo, I hope they make a strong come back. They're one of the few companies that _could_ actually revolutionize gaming again if they make the right choices.
It is ironic that Nintendo it telling people that they should innovate.. meanwhile back at the lab they are creating another Mario or Metroid or Donkey Kong game.
Gimme a break, these guys are constantly on a "you guys need to reinvent gaming" speel. Why not eat your own dog food Nintendo and give us a new fucking game for once?
Here is my take on Nintendo - they are so bent on "redefining gaming" that they refuse to try and copy a known good design. Everything you hear from Nintendo has the undertone not of "innovate" but instead of "reinvent". Nintendo has become so involved with it's own genius that it refuses to acknowledge the other person in this relationship - the consumer.
For instance, the DS. The DS is simply a game boy with two screens, one you can touch. But they tought it as something that is gonna change gaming. How? How exactly is this so much different from past designs that people are gaming differently now?
Nintendo is known for its pushing innovations in gaming, such as 4-port gameplay, rumble packs, and true 3D console gaming. But they've become so obsessed with their own genius that they refuse to copy good designs and give the customer what they want. Instead they'd rather "define" what you want and give it to you.. in their vision. So instead of a platform that is superior because it has the best games, instead we get platforms that are technically superior but no games to play on it.
Nintendo.. Sega called, it said you better step it up or just get out. Stop dick teasing all of us into thinking you're gonna give us some real good games and then pulling the "change the way you think" shell game.
Where is the 12 point text above every crazy girl I meet?
WARNING: WE HAVE NOT CONDUCTED A PSHYCHOANALYSIS OF THIS PERSON. Getting to know this person may mean you will *gasp* have to take a chance in life. Doing so may endanger your life. But then again so will walking down the stairs.
Now, is this some example of visionary, enlightened forward thinking? Or is this what happens when otherwise normal grown ups start smoking rock cocaine?
John keeps babbling about the GPL this and GPL that, but the funny thing is that he understands so little about open source licenses that he actually thinks that just by writing a device driver for Linux it would automatically become GPL-licensed.
Nuff said? Hardly. You just slam MS but never back up your google statements or you allusion to.Net being a bad technology.
You are slamming MS for bad businesss practices, which if you read my post you would see I also slammed. But you never backed up your statements about the technology.
So I'll reiterate, How exactly does Google make better software?
The reason for buying a console is to PLAY GAMES. Buy games you like, with high replayability, and keep it for 5-10 years. The Atari 2600 was still fun for me in the 1990s.
Puh-lease, the Atari 2600 was overrated. I never bought in. I still play games on the ENIAC in the basement, and on the second floor, and on the third..
Are you honestly implying with a virtual straight face that.Net is inferior? How so? Speak with specifics, not vague pointing to "it sucks because M$ suxorz".Net is probably one of the most advanced development platforms on the market. Most developers would not argue this. I certainly don't even though I use other technologies. There is nothing inferior about.Net.
This is the very reason I had for making my post, some people associate MS with inferior technology, when in fact it's their business practices that should be scorned. I'm a developer and search for the right solution to the problem. I don't associate myself with one particular technology or company so I see no problem evaluating a tech based on it's true merits. Do you?
Also your pro-Google bias shines through. Do you think that somehow the people at Google are better at writing software then those at MS? How so? How do they do this? Specifics please.
Any tool could probably be used for evil. For instance I have a calendar on my wall. If I took it down and rolled it up, I could probably beat you half way to death with enough strong blows.
Today I got up, took a shit, showered, drove to work, ate breakfast, then proceeded to fix bugs until lunch. I ate a turkey sandwhich to show that I am trying to lose a little weight and then went back to work.
So what I'm saying is what the fuck does your post have to do with the price of rice in China? Probably about as much as it has to do with the MySQL exploit listed in the post.
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First, if you actually wrote a proper website in the first place, you do NOT need to create or maintain two versions. This is a myth perpetrated by incompetent self-styled "designers" that never bothered to learn to understand the media they're working in.
I have a question.. how do you fit images that are 250 pixels wide on a screen that is only 100 pixels wide?
One more question - how do you use the same version of your HTML output for WAP devices?
You can preach all day about not needing two sites but some devices, such as devices that use WAP, will need a seperate versions.
Also, WTF does Enron have to do with this?
I do understand what you are trying to say, I read plenty of books and try to avoid being the "new media guy" connected to a device at all times, but sometimes I do want to check a sports score and so I go to my cell phone, log on and check the scores.
To me it's kind of like RSS. When I see a news site that doesn't provide an RSS feed I wonder what the hell they are thinking. It becomes useful and so we complain when someone doesn't have it.
My take on this issue is that it's not rteally an issue at all. Web site creators can determine the content type based on the access device, they just choose not too. I was creating these type of sites in the late 1990s, so I know it can be done. The tools are much better now, people just have to use them. The creators will have to determine if it's worth their while.
What I don't understand is why free? I mean I understand why it's better for me, but why not just charge a small fee to keep my data stored for life? I'd certainly pay for it.
I see absolutely no bias in your post.. "msoftsucks"
True. But the experience for IE users can be worse. On the page you can say, "Best viewed with Firefox" and then have a link to www.mozilla.org. M$ has been doing this crap for years. Maybe its time for M$ to get a taste of its own medicine.
Sure thing.. if the mission of your business is "to cause problems for Microsoft". But if the mission of your business is to reach the users then perhaps you should rethink that strategy. The user experience comes before your personal biases. That's part of being a developer.
This isn't an episode of Ghost in the Shell. I have a soul and robots don't. I'm gonna be the robot biggot 50 years from now oppressing them! Sit down machine and shut up! ;-)
A soul is what made you ask that question in the first place. It's hard to define but you know it when you see it.
Why not go with more structurally efficient designs, like a spider, instead of focusing on bipedal bots for uses requiring ambulation?
As long as it has a face I can punch I don't care what shape it comes in.
But in all seriousness I do agree, the quest for human shaped robots is intriguing. We are obviously not the most able bodied creatures when it comes to our "form factor", our superiority is not in our shape but in our huge monkey brain.
Maybe it's to out people at ease, but I for one do _not_ welcome our new humanoid robot overlords. It creeps me out when things that don't have a soul start talking to me. Call me crazy.
Since when did humanoids have wheels?
Damn I'm behind, I gotta get rid of these stupid legs.
UPGRADE
"two factor authentication can fail us."
So can passwords....
The words "lighten up" come to mind...
Specifically I thought that the GameCube not having a DVD player was really it's achilles heal. I understand that they wanted a smaller form factor but I think this was a bad decision. Nintendo has yet to recognize adults as gamers too, we want a machine that does other things besides just play games. This is just one example.
Nintendo also does not appeal to adult gamers as much with it's game base. Adults want to play games with adult themes that might not be suitable for children. But Nintendo would rather give us another Mario Cart, which is a fun game, but might not be flag ship that gets the console sold to adults.
But even though I speculate about why I stay away from Nintendo, if you take a look around the web in game development forums the thing that really sealed the deal on the GameCube was their inability to lure game developers to their platform by limiting access to their development tools, APIs, etc. Microsoft has known that this relationship with developers is key to getting games on their platforms so I hope that Nintendo follows their lead in this area and gets back in the game.
I grew up on Nintendo, I hope they make a strong come back. They're one of the few companies that _could_ actually revolutionize gaming again if they make the right choices.
It is ironic that Nintendo it telling people that they should innovate.. meanwhile back at the lab they are creating another Mario or Metroid or Donkey Kong game.
Gimme a break, these guys are constantly on a "you guys need to reinvent gaming" speel. Why not eat your own dog food Nintendo and give us a new fucking game for once?
Here is my take on Nintendo - they are so bent on "redefining gaming" that they refuse to try and copy a known good design. Everything you hear from Nintendo has the undertone not of "innovate" but instead of "reinvent". Nintendo has become so involved with it's own genius that it refuses to acknowledge the other person in this relationship - the consumer.
For instance, the DS. The DS is simply a game boy with two screens, one you can touch. But they tought it as something that is gonna change gaming. How? How exactly is this so much different from past designs that people are gaming differently now?
Nintendo is known for its pushing innovations in gaming, such as 4-port gameplay, rumble packs, and true 3D console gaming. But they've become so obsessed with their own genius that they refuse to copy good designs and give the customer what they want. Instead they'd rather "define" what you want and give it to you.. in their vision. So instead of a platform that is superior because it has the best games, instead we get platforms that are technically superior but no games to play on it.
Nintendo.. Sega called, it said you better step it up or just get out. Stop dick teasing all of us into thinking you're gonna give us some real good games and then pulling the "change the way you think" shell game.
Your cell phone gets better service than VOIP can offer. Jesus man tell me who your carrier is, I want to sign up!
He cuts in and out all the time, low volume (even though he says he's almost shouting) and there's constant static.
Maybe he's talking to you on his cell phone?
Hmm.. which standard reply should I use?
1. I for one welcome our new block of cheese overlords?
2. In Soviet Russia blocks of cheese animate *you*?
3. But will this block of cheese run linux?
Yeah but Wal*Mart would rather get their music from China anyway.
Where is the 12 point text above every crazy girl I meet?
WARNING: WE HAVE NOT CONDUCTED A PSHYCHOANALYSIS OF THIS PERSON. Getting to know this person may mean you will *gasp* have to take a chance in life. Doing so may endanger your life. But then again so will walking down the stairs.
Now, is this some example of visionary, enlightened forward thinking? Or is this what happens when otherwise normal grown ups start smoking rock cocaine?
John keeps babbling about the GPL this and GPL that, but the funny thing is that he understands so little about open source licenses that he actually thinks that just by writing a device driver for Linux it would automatically become GPL-licensed.
Nuff said? Hardly. You just slam MS but never back up your google statements or you allusion to .Net being a bad technology.
You are slamming MS for bad businesss practices, which if you read my post you would see I also slammed. But you never backed up your statements about the technology.
So I'll reiterate, How exactly does Google make better software?
The reason for buying a console is to PLAY GAMES. Buy games you like, with high replayability, and keep it for 5-10 years. The Atari 2600 was still fun for me in the 1990s.
Puh-lease, the Atari 2600 was overrated. I never bought in. I still play games on the ENIAC in the basement, and on the second floor, and on the third..
Are you honestly implying with a virtual straight face that .Net is inferior? How so? Speak with specifics, not vague pointing to "it sucks because M$ suxorz" .Net is probably one of the most advanced development platforms on the market. Most developers would not argue this. I certainly don't even though I use other technologies. There is nothing inferior about .Net.
This is the very reason I had for making my post, some people associate MS with inferior technology, when in fact it's their business practices that should be scorned. I'm a developer and search for the right solution to the problem. I don't associate myself with one particular technology or company so I see no problem evaluating a tech based on it's true merits. Do you?
Also your pro-Google bias shines through. Do you think that somehow the people at Google are better at writing software then those at MS? How so? How do they do this? Specifics please.
This was probably the best post I've read on this site. I was worried that no one really cared about finding the right solution for the job.
I bet if Google was behind Mono it would be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Any tool could probably be used for evil. For instance I have a calendar on my wall. If I took it down and rolled it up, I could probably beat you half way to death with enough strong blows.
ME too, because they aren't evil evil people like those other companies. They work for good. I'm on their side. Not the evil side.
Fuck a google, how about that!
I troll all day and I still post at +2 beotch!
Today I got up, took a shit, showered, drove to work, ate breakfast, then proceeded to fix bugs until lunch. I ate a turkey sandwhich to show that I am trying to lose a little weight and then went back to work.
So what I'm saying is what the fuck does your post have to do with the price of rice in China? Probably about as much as it has to do with the MySQL exploit listed in the post.