Until a local hospital calls you to let you know your kids got a broken leg...
I've seen people drive themselves to distraction with your logic. They start sweating when their phone gets to one bar, and refuse to go anywhere with no cell service. Or drive through long highway tunnels. And yet....... somehow we've been able to survive all this time without everyone having instant access to us.
Talk about your first world problems.
First world problems? If you've never been to the 3rd world, you're not allowed to use that line. It just makes you sound like an idiot.
I've been to the 3rd world, specifically Africa. Everyone has cellphones. EVERYONE. People that don't have homes, cars, a bed... have a cellphone. Why? So they can keep in contact with their family, in case of emergency. Most people have 2 phones, or at least 2 sim cards so they can be on 2 networks at once, just so they don't miss a call.
Cue in the comments on how that security feature is not completely perfect, so therefore it has to be completely useless.
You mean like the fact that Boeing already works very closely with the CIA/NSA and therefor this thing is 100% guaranteed to have a government backdoor per-installed AND the purchase of such a phone would automatically put on a watch list that would result in pretty much all of your traffic getting logged anyway?
Not perfect... more like, this phone likely does exactly the opposite of what it advertises.
The Beach Boys released two copyright-extension sets...
That's not true. "The Beach Boys" didn't release anything. The rights to their work were stolen in the 1960s by their manager and sold to A&M records: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S... A&M is owned by UMG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U... The largest Music publishing company in the world who's owned by Vivendi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V... Who's worth nearly $50 billion, and has profits in the $3 billion/yr range...
and you wonder why copyright laws get changed in their favor... lol
When arguing about copyright law, always keep in mind... the people that "own" these copyrights are almost never the artists or their families. Business own then and the attempts to extend copyright into perpetuity has absolutely nothing to do with rewarding the creator of the music. It has to do with extending what was usually a theft from an artist, into a theft from mankind as a whole.
Watch the following movie for more details on that side of the business: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A... I don't like 30 seconds to mars, but that movie matches what many of the musicians/bands I've met have said about the industry.
You could be right, but given TOR's design, it doesn't even matter if the feds wrote it, they still couldn't figure out your identity. The feds would have to own all the nodes in the network, which is possible... but if they did own all the nodes, it wouldn't really matter if they wrote it or not now would it?
All that said... there are easier ways to hide your identity on the internet.
Really? Apparently they quickly took control of almost every one one of Sony's servers and workstations. Literally took entire control, stole all of the useful data, wiped out all of their servers, and then owned all of the workstations so that they were useless but able to broadcast any message they wanted to them.
That's a *bit* more coordinated than "your average trojan worm". Unless you really think based on extremely limited information you know more than all of the security researchers and government investigators looking into it... (hint: sorry, you don't).
I'd like to see your proposal for a device that can "only" do like 25% of the speed of light, take a massive payload to an unknown planet, and can land safely.
We humans already have engines capable of doing it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I... And remember, the probes would be robots, so they could handle hard deltaV that would kill us.
Complete nonsense. I keep reading about this attack, like it was magical... Then there's an article on Slashdot today about programming being a superpower? I'm starting to think this entire thing was designed to have this very affect.
So what's next? The government protects us? We need more electronic surveillance?
Hacks based on Zero-day exploits are hard to protect against. But they are smash and grabs, and once you see the data leaving, you shut things down until you can patch. But this Sony thing? They had basically complete control over their entire infrastructure. No hack would ever result in that kind of control unless Sony basically had no protection or planning at all. Which is what I think this was... Sony being completely irresponsible. The fault here is with Sony. Yea, the hackers are bad guys to... but there's absolutely no reason they should have gotten what they did. In particular the Executive that had the entires companies Salary in an XLS document on their hard-drive should be fired immediately.
No, some statisticians have actually done the math. Basically if you built such a thing and it could only do something like 25% of the speed of light, it would only take them 300,000 years to overrun the entire galaxy.
I think the answer will turn out to be that the universe is in fact crawling with life. But space fairing intelligent life is very rare. Take for example, Mars. I think we will find life there... and heck, pretty much every planet. But it's going to be single celled... if it even has "Cells" at all. Then lets assumed complex life did evolve on a planet... what if it's a ocean planet and they're aquatic? They're never going to figure out electricity, they can't even experiment with it. They're not even going to be able to do fire much less a rocket. What if they're terrestrial but the gravity is slightly stronger... rockets are nearly impossible as it is, imagine if we were at 2g!
And remember, we still have a very good chance at wiping ourselves out before we ever get to another star.
ooo... and I should add... Soft disconnects are done frequently for people that plan to reconnect the phone. "I'll be in Florida for the winter but I want my number back when I get back!" The phone company charges you a small fee to hold them number, they disco the number in the switch so it doesn't lead to the line but they don't physically disconnect the line because that would involve work and they'd just have to reconnect it later anyways. So when you get back home they just reprogram the number and viola...
I suspect when your parents explained that you were away at college but would return, they likely did something like that for you to.
That's a soft disconnect. They deleted your number in the switch software but didn't physically disconnect the wire. It happens all the time, and, in fact, is required by law in some areas. Some counties require the phone company to have a working phone with 911 access in every home, even if it's abandoned. So they have to send techs out with police escorts to install phones, just in case some hobos move in and have an emergency.
I'm glad my pedestal is in my back yard. Probably not comforting for my neighbors that the fence blocks their view of it. At least it's not near the road were a kid taking a leak on it would cause static on the line. I feel sorry for the tech that had to trouble shoot that one.
Anyone can tap your call from any point in the route between you and the CO. Someone could be half a mile away and still do it. Though, if the plants been modernized, it's probobly MUX'd (turned digital) after before you hit 30,000 feet.
Except with the land line, someone has to go find your physical wire pair and connect to it. This is a software hack.
No they don't. The switch has a modem that you can dial into... and yes, they are still connected and used a lot. The call can be rerouted to any number on the planet. Some switches only have 1 login that's shared by all the programmers;-) Remember, this hardwares from the 60's, 70s, 80s...
Seriously guys, we need to drop the copenhagen interpretation already. Pilot-wave theory eliminates the need for quantum mysticism.
That theories been prove wrong hundreds of times now. The simplest explanation of why it's wrong is that it's Deterministic. i.e. it's part of the "Clockwork universe" and if that's true, then you do not have free will and we should all just throw in the towel now... oh wait, that's right, we don't have a choice. Don't worry, I know it's not your fault that you posted this though, it wasn't up to you!
(legally) found the site, any further evidence should be tossed out of court.
for example, you get pulled over for speeding, but you were not speeding and can prove it, cops find a bag of weed on you. that gets tossed out as soon as you prove you were not speeding. same thing should apply here
yea, I've been laughing about this story... If this scares you, never look up how landlines work, that'd terrify you. lol
You could take pretty much any speaker you wanted to, run a jumper to the switch and listen to any phone call you wanted. ANYONE in your neighborhood can walk over to any one of the hundreds of pedestals in your neighborhood and do the same. If you really want to get fancy you can go get a butt set off Amazon for $10 and dial out to. And all that's before we get to someone with switch access... they can issue commands to link your call to another number so they can listen in, etc... You've absolutely no privacy on a land-line phone call.
... this is similar in nature to same sex marriage, and women's reproductive rights.
It's legal some places and banned in others.
No, it's not. Marijuana is still illegal throughout the United States due to federal law. In no state (including Colorado) is it legal. It's simply that Colorado has removed any state law criminalizing it. The federal prohibition remains. That is not the case with same sex marriage and women's reproductive rights. The next president could easily tell the DEA to go in and shut down every marijuana dealer and grower in Colorado if he/she orders it.
You're neglecting the fact that the DEA doesn't have the resources to enforce that. The DEA relies on local law enforcement to do almost all of their work. They only become involved in very big cases. So yes, they could take out the stores and maybe the larger farms, but the real change is the hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people growing it in their back yards. What I'm really surprised about is that the price hasn't really gone down yet. The prices you see at those dispensaries are still higher than street prices in states where it's illegal, which is baffling.
It would seem, if the other states don't want to lose the revenue from drug enforcement (which I believe is certainly true), that this increase in arrests and subsequent convictions/asset forfeiture would be welcomed.
Yea, but now they also want a paycheck from Colorado. See how that works?
Think about it - they obviously didn't reoffend, right? If they had, they'd have been detected and returned (probably with a few extra bruises) to the Rock. Therefore, in the case of these three men the system worked perfectly - whether they escaped or not.
Didn't re-offend? You mean, didn't get caught. There's a difference.
The theaters are contractually obligated to play the movie. Sony can claim publicly that they don't have to play the movie, but those legally binding contracts are still in place, and remember, the theaters still want to play the movie. That's cash in their pockets and the threats are likely fake. So they show the movie anyways, and if a real attack happens, the first thing they are going to do is point at that contract and say Sony forced them to show the movie, they had no choice. Viola, Sony is now liable.
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You know... I was pretty sure it was NK as well...
But it's really getting fishy.
For example, why was the CIA meeting with Sony just a month prior to this happening?
http://radaronline.com/exclusi...
And it even specifically says the talks were about Sony and other studios helping them with, what can only be described as, propaganda.
Something... and I don't know what... but something, is up.
Until a local hospital calls you to let you know your kids got a broken leg...
I've seen people drive themselves to distraction with your logic. They start sweating when their phone gets to one bar, and refuse to go anywhere with no cell service. Or drive through long highway tunnels. And yet....... somehow we've been able to survive all this time without everyone having instant access to us.
Talk about your first world problems.
First world problems? If you've never been to the 3rd world, you're not allowed to use that line. It just makes you sound like an idiot.
I've been to the 3rd world, specifically Africa. Everyone has cellphones. EVERYONE.
People that don't have homes, cars, a bed... have a cellphone.
Why? So they can keep in contact with their family, in case of emergency. Most people have 2 phones, or at least 2 sim cards so they can be on 2 networks at once, just so they don't miss a call.
You find booths like this on every street corner:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...
I had better cell coverage there than I do in the states.
Cue in the comments on how that security feature is not completely perfect, so therefore it has to be completely useless.
You mean like the fact that Boeing already works very closely with the CIA/NSA and therefor this thing is 100% guaranteed to have a government backdoor per-installed AND the purchase of such a phone would automatically put on a watch list that would result in pretty much all of your traffic getting logged anyway?
Not perfect... more like, this phone likely does exactly the opposite of what it advertises.
The Beach Boys released two copyright-extension sets...
That's not true. "The Beach Boys" didn't release anything. The rights to their work were stolen in the 1960s by their manager and sold to A&M records:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
A&M is owned by UMG:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...
The largest Music publishing company in the world who's owned by Vivendi:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V...
Who's worth nearly $50 billion, and has profits in the $3 billion/yr range...
and you wonder why copyright laws get changed in their favor... lol
When arguing about copyright law, always keep in mind... the people that "own" these copyrights are almost never the artists or their families. Business own then and the attempts to extend copyright into perpetuity has absolutely nothing to do with rewarding the creator of the music. It has to do with extending what was usually a theft from an artist, into a theft from mankind as a whole.
Watch the following movie for more details on that side of the business:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...
I don't like 30 seconds to mars, but that movie matches what many of the musicians/bands I've met have said about the industry.
And here's an article written by Courtney Love 15yrs ago... and it's also pretty much dead on:
http://www.salon.com/2000/06/1...
The real pirates are the music labels.
Boring Little Story About My Windows
Right... and that's why you always pirate windows.
It's sad that the pirated version of an OS is better than the legit version, but with windows it's a fact.
Until a local hospital calls you to let you know your kids got a broken leg...
You could be right, but given TOR's design, it doesn't even matter if the feds wrote it, they still couldn't figure out your identity. The feds would have to own all the nodes in the network, which is possible... but if they did own all the nodes, it wouldn't really matter if they wrote it or not now would it?
All that said... there are easier ways to hide your identity on the internet.
Really? Apparently they quickly took control of almost every one one of Sony's servers and workstations. Literally took entire control, stole all of the useful data, wiped out all of their servers, and then owned all of the workstations so that they were useless but able to broadcast any message they wanted to them.
That's a *bit* more coordinated than "your average trojan worm". Unless you really think based on extremely limited information you know more than all of the security researchers and government investigators looking into it... (hint: sorry, you don't).
They had access for over a year...
http://www.businessweek.com/ne...
Sony didn't even have rudimentary security established. Pretty much any teenager with basic skills could have taken them out.
How much would it cost to retrofit 32000 ships?
How much it would cost the EPA to mandate the change? Nothing!
I'd like to see your proposal for a device that can "only" do like 25% of the speed of light, take a massive payload to an unknown planet, and can land safely.
We humans already have engines capable of doing it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...
And remember, the probes would be robots, so they could handle hard deltaV that would kill us.
Complete nonsense.
I keep reading about this attack, like it was magical...
Then there's an article on Slashdot today about programming being a superpower?
I'm starting to think this entire thing was designed to have this very affect.
So what's next? The government protects us? We need more electronic surveillance?
Hacks based on Zero-day exploits are hard to protect against. But they are smash and grabs, and once you see the data leaving, you shut things down until you can patch. But this Sony thing? They had basically complete control over their entire infrastructure. No hack would ever result in that kind of control unless Sony basically had no protection or planning at all. Which is what I think this was... Sony being completely irresponsible. The fault here is with Sony. Yea, the hackers are bad guys to... but there's absolutely no reason they should have gotten what they did. In particular the Executive that had the entires companies Salary in an XLS document on their hard-drive should be fired immediately.
No, some statisticians have actually done the math. Basically if you built such a thing and it could only do something like 25% of the speed of light, it would only take them 300,000 years to overrun the entire galaxy.
I think the answer will turn out to be that the universe is in fact crawling with life. But space fairing intelligent life is very rare.
Take for example, Mars. I think we will find life there... and heck, pretty much every planet. But it's going to be single celled... if it even has "Cells" at all.
Then lets assumed complex life did evolve on a planet... what if it's a ocean planet and they're aquatic? They're never going to figure out electricity, they can't even experiment with it. They're not even going to be able to do fire much less a rocket. What if they're terrestrial but the gravity is slightly stronger... rockets are nearly impossible as it is, imagine if we were at 2g!
And remember, we still have a very good chance at wiping ourselves out before we ever get to another star.
ooo... and I should add...
Soft disconnects are done frequently for people that plan to reconnect the phone.
"I'll be in Florida for the winter but I want my number back when I get back!"
The phone company charges you a small fee to hold them number, they disco the number in the switch so it doesn't lead to the line but they don't physically disconnect the line because that would involve work and they'd just have to reconnect it later anyways. So when you get back home they just reprogram the number and viola...
I suspect when your parents explained that you were away at college but would return, they likely did something like that for you to.
That's a soft disconnect.
They deleted your number in the switch software but didn't physically disconnect the wire.
It happens all the time, and, in fact, is required by law in some areas.
Some counties require the phone company to have a working phone with 911 access in every home, even if it's abandoned. So they have to send techs out with police escorts to install phones, just in case some hobos move in and have an emergency.
I'm glad my pedestal is in my back yard. Probably not comforting for my neighbors that the fence blocks their view of it. At least it's not near the road were a kid taking a leak on it would cause static on the line. I feel sorry for the tech that had to trouble shoot that one.
Anyone can tap your call from any point in the route between you and the CO. Someone could be half a mile away and still do it.
Though, if the plants been modernized, it's probobly MUX'd (turned digital) after before you hit 30,000 feet.
Except with the land line, someone has to go find your physical wire pair and connect to it. This is a software hack.
No they don't. ;-)
The switch has a modem that you can dial into... and yes, they are still connected and used a lot.
The call can be rerouted to any number on the planet.
Some switches only have 1 login that's shared by all the programmers
Remember, this hardwares from the 60's, 70s, 80s...
Seriously guys, we need to drop the copenhagen interpretation already. Pilot-wave theory eliminates the need for quantum mysticism.
That theories been prove wrong hundreds of times now.
The simplest explanation of why it's wrong is that it's Deterministic. i.e. it's part of the "Clockwork universe" and if that's true, then you do not have free will and we should all just throw in the towel now... oh wait, that's right, we don't have a choice. Don't worry, I know it's not your fault that you posted this though, it wasn't up to you!
Determinism = fail
Either you were protected by state law, or the judge was just being nice.
(legally) found the site, any further evidence should be tossed out of court.
for example, you get pulled over for speeding, but you were not speeding and can prove it, cops find a bag of weed on you. that gets tossed out as soon as you prove you were not speeding. same thing should apply here
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court disagrees with you:
http://www.npr.org/2014/12/15/...
yea, I've been laughing about this story... If this scares you, never look up how landlines work, that'd terrify you. lol
You could take pretty much any speaker you wanted to, run a jumper to the switch and listen to any phone call you wanted. ANYONE in your neighborhood can walk over to any one of the hundreds of pedestals in your neighborhood and do the same. If you really want to get fancy you can go get a butt set off Amazon for $10 and dial out to. And all that's before we get to someone with switch access... they can issue commands to link your call to another number so they can listen in, etc...
You've absolutely no privacy on a land-line phone call.
... this is similar in nature to same sex marriage, and women's reproductive rights.
It's legal some places and banned in others.
No, it's not. Marijuana is still illegal throughout the United States due to federal law. In no state (including Colorado) is it legal. It's simply that Colorado has removed any state law criminalizing it. The federal prohibition remains. That is not the case with same sex marriage and women's reproductive rights. The next president could easily tell the DEA to go in and shut down every marijuana dealer and grower in Colorado if he/she orders it.
You're neglecting the fact that the DEA doesn't have the resources to enforce that. The DEA relies on local law enforcement to do almost all of their work. They only become involved in very big cases. So yes, they could take out the stores and maybe the larger farms, but the real change is the hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people growing it in their back yards. What I'm really surprised about is that the price hasn't really gone down yet. The prices you see at those dispensaries are still higher than street prices in states where it's illegal, which is baffling.
It would seem, if the other states don't want to lose the revenue from drug enforcement (which I believe is certainly true), that this increase in arrests and subsequent convictions/asset forfeiture would be welcomed.
Yea, but now they also want a paycheck from Colorado. See how that works?
Hate to break it to you, but the US is way ahead of Australia in that regard.
If you ever get pulled over by a cop while carrying a large amount of cash on you, you'll find out the hard way.
Think about it - they obviously didn't reoffend, right? If they had, they'd have been detected and returned (probably with a few extra bruises) to the Rock. Therefore, in the case of these three men the system worked perfectly - whether they escaped or not.
Didn't re-offend? You mean, didn't get caught. There's a difference.
The theaters are contractually obligated to play the movie.
Sony can claim publicly that they don't have to play the movie, but those legally binding contracts are still in place, and remember, the theaters still want to play the movie. That's cash in their pockets and the threats are likely fake. So they show the movie anyways, and if a real attack happens, the first thing they are going to do is point at that contract and say Sony forced them to show the movie, they had no choice. Viola, Sony is now liable.