no method...just an (un)educated guess...tho in retrospect..i don't think france has such a high percentage, french people tend to stick to french websites, probably Canada would appear somewhere there as well.
I hope we'll be always able to tell the difference. Cause if they make a computer that functions exactly like human brain.....what use is that? Computer's are already better at calculation (excluding excel) then most people, so if they make computer brain, I should always be able to tell the difference by asking it square root of 42765, a computer brain should give me a result in about 1 second, most human brains would give me...the middle finger most probably.
Then again if we give this 'computer brain' emotions...it might refuse to give me the answer for multiple reasons...insecurity, spite, kindness. So it will know the answer...but might refuse to give me.
So this brings up the question, which was probably asked in many robot-themed SF novels (which i don't read much), should we really aim to mimic human intelligence with computers. Is that ignoring the computers advantages over humans? I think we are doing something terribly wrong, or ignoring something terribly important by trying too hard to mimic the animal (and human) process of thought when making computer intelligence. That's like trying to make apple pie, with pears... and trying really hard to make it taste like an apple pie. Shouldn't we just try to make a good pear pie.
Lousy analogy, but now I am really interested what pear pie would taste like.
my thoughts exactly. the first time it crashed the statistics were 99% users from china 1% Others the second time it crashes it will be: 28% USA 24% UK 22% Germany 19% Sweden 5% France 2% other ------ Referer: 98% www.slashdot.org 2% other
I haven't played witcher, or any game this year. However a good friend of mine, did and he was more than happy with it. From what he told me about the game, it sounds awesome, the game has a lot of soul. Some of the story/choice ideas sounded very fallout-ish which is a good thing. Especially loved the idea where you have to get drunk to get information off some npcs.:D
"Normally, we're rooting against the asteroid," when it has Earth in its cross hairs, Chesley said. "This time we're rooting for the asteroid to hit."
For all we know mars is a lifeless planet, but still....rooting for the asteroid to hit is just plain mean, bad karma. I hope it doesn't hit. Not only because of my...uhmmmm.... nickname connection.
I don't know anything for sure, nobody does. However it IS very impractical and redundant to start every sentence with 'As far as I know' or with 'I might be wrong here'.
That's understood, everything I type and know is relative to the information I have and the way I perceive it. For all we know you could be a figment of my imagination, or I could be the figment of yours, or we could be a figments of someone else's. While metaphysics are fun and seemingly profound and deep, they are ultimately pointless. The fact (question arises, what is fact and what is mass hallucination ) that computer cannot effectively communicate its feelings to me makes 'it only a thing that has no feeling to me'. Reality is not something stable, it's basically the general consensus of a large group of people. For some people God is reality, for others aliens.
So yes everything you said could be right, it could be just nonsense as well.
These arguments/discussion are pointless. The real question arises is 'Is it worth discussing?'
You said:
Do you really know that you are anything different than a little sim in a simulated world, or a self-aware mathematical entity in a mathematical universe? I could ask you 'Do you really know we are sims in a simulated world? What proof do you have?'
And that would make this just a modified 'Does god exist argument.'...which are pointless as well.
So here are my final statements: Given the current evidence, I can only conclude this is the only reality there is as currently there is no evidence of any other Given the current evidence, I can only conclude computers have no feelings, as currently there is no evidence of computers displaying self-conscious actions
The truth is not absolute, no one said it was and who ever think it is, is a bit of a fool (and we are all fools in one way or another). The truth is just a group of conclusion we can make, based on current evidence. Everything I say I know is relative to the today's truth not the absolute truth...we will never be know the absolute truth...or at least we will never be sure we know the absolute truth.
to the guy(or girls and guys) who did this. Any machine that has been in service or at least functional for 47 years, deserves this kind of respect and this kind of send off.
Yes, i know it's only a machine, and it has no feelings. But this is a respectful send off, and 'job well done, thank you' to all people who were involved in designing, maintaining and producing this mainframe.
Victim:'Oh, no all my accounts have been cleared, I've got no money, and someone hijacked my facebook profile, and used it to announce my pedophilia problem....and someone installed cameras in my appartment'
Ashoton Kutcher:'Smile, you're on Penetration Testing'
Victim:'??!!' nervous smile 'can I get my money and reputation back?'
Ashton Kutcher:'errr...no..we're keeping your money, and you're pedophile anyway, we just browsed through your disk'
Victim aka the pedophile:*sweating* 'hehehe'
Ashoton Kutcher:'Smile, you're on Penetration Testing'
hilarious isn't it....when you die we use kind words such as 'departed' and 'passed away' yet when you get fired they use harsh words such as 'eliminated' or 'terminated'.
Makes it seem like getting fired is worse then dying. I bet George Carlin would get a kick out of that.:D
Ok i'd like to state a few things other already have.
In the announcement/article it hasn't been said that site is being shut down
In the announcement/article it hasn't been said that these people are fired, only team has been 'eliminated' they might have been moved to different projects.
so my biggest (and really the only) grudge here, is that this is not really not newsworthy, the title should have been 'startrek.com team dissolved, future of website in question'
Onto my next observation you said
The "pursuit of happiness" is an on-going experience, not a goal. and i agree wholeheartedly, one could use the modified zen statement 'Meditation is enlightenment', and say that 'pursuit of happiness' is futile, because 'the pursuit is happiness'.
but then you say
If you haven't found what makes you happy yet, heed the example of this sort of person - don't put him down. which kind of makes it sound like it is a goal. Working for 13 years on one website, is hardly a pursuit. It seems to me that if anyone (there is high possibility no one is really wrong here) mistook happiness for 'goal' instead of 'on-going experience', it's the startrek.com team.
Has it really been the exact same team for past 13 years? If it was, I would say this is a blessing in disguise for them, if you're 33 (that means, you've been involved in that since you were 20) and your main occupation has been 'maintaining startrek.com' (or any one website), maybe it's time to move on, and fatten up that CV.
I find their use of the word 'eliminated' a bit overly dramatic. Dissolved maybe, but eliminated? It's not like they've all been taken to the alley behind the studio, shot in the head and then dumped in the river.
geomagnetic has got to be one of the coolest words I heard in a while.
now this might be a stupid question buuuut:
twisted bundles of magnetic fields connecting Earth's upper atmosphere to the sun.
There are magnetic fields that connect earth's upper atmosphere to the sun?
We are one step closer to having an X wing A C-130H might not have the sleek looks but it's a step in the right direction.
My next question is....what does it sound like...movies always told us that laser will make cool sounds when fired. I vote it makes that 'Ptsui!' sound.
wouldn't the common goal here be killing the opponent? So they might not be training them to 'murder', but they are training them to kill. If they really want to teach them just to work together towards a common goal, why not use a sports simulation, like ISS or NBA or whatever... in FPS if you're good enough you can ignore your teammates, this is not true in sports simulations. Soooo those would be better to teach teamwork then an fps, right?
still an hour....even more amazing you look at the sun, and that's a sun from an hour ago....if sun disappeared you would still see it for an hour. It's an old realization, that quite a few stars I see at night don't even exist anymore.
This is not a new fact to me, but it never ceases to amaze me. Puts everything in perspective somehow. Just proves to you if you see something it doesn't really mean it's there or it even exists anymore. BTW Anyone got a clue how long does it take a signal, to travel from Voyager 2 to Earth?
that the thing has been functioning for 30 years, in such conditions.* All the star trek shows have made us immune to the amazement of such a feat. I mean this thing traveled to the edge of the solar system, we can't begin to comprehend that distance....that's gotta be at least some 30-40 light seconds away from the sun. It traveled a huge distance, over a rather large period of time, and it still function. if that doesn't desrve a 'WOW'** that i don't know what does.
*No MS/Linux jokes please **No World of Warcraft jokes please.
while it's not the most difficult thing to use it can be quite frustrating.
mostly cause of J in ajax. Javscript can be a nightmare to use. I never know if a certain javascript will work on all browsers or even all versions of a certain browser. Most frameworks have solved this by have different code for different browsers, which is another thing I don't like about AJAX, very messy code.
AJAX is not unusable but it requires (or even demands) a very organized approach from the developer side, something that is not always easy if you are working on tight deadlines.
If you want to use AJAX, sit down and think about it, understand what it is, because AJAX (again mostly due to Javascript) can produce some of the most unusual and frustrating bugs. Which are usually easy to fix, but at times almost impossible to find.
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no method...just an (un)educated guess...tho in retrospect..i don't think france has such a high percentage, french people tend to stick to french websites, probably Canada would appear somewhere there as well.
well you buy a new oven, refrigerator or mircowave...you silly consumer ;)
I hope we'll be always able to tell the difference. Cause if they make a computer that functions exactly like human brain.....what use is that? Computer's are already better at calculation (excluding excel) then most people, so if they make computer brain, I should always be able to tell the difference by asking it square root of 42765, a computer brain should give me a result in about 1 second, most human brains would give me...the middle finger most probably.
Then again if we give this 'computer brain' emotions...it might refuse to give me the answer for multiple reasons...insecurity, spite, kindness. So it will know the answer...but might refuse to give me.
So this brings up the question, which was probably asked in many robot-themed SF novels (which i don't read much), should we really aim to mimic human intelligence with computers. Is that ignoring the computers advantages over humans? I think we are doing something terribly wrong, or ignoring something terribly important by trying too hard to mimic the animal (and human) process of thought when making computer intelligence. That's like trying to make apple pie, with pears... and trying really hard to make it taste like an apple pie. Shouldn't we just try to make a good pear pie.
Lousy analogy, but now I am really interested what pear pie would taste like.
my thoughts exactly.
the first time it crashed the statistics were
99% users from china
1% Others
the second time it crashes it will be:
28% USA
24% UK
22% Germany
19% Sweden
5% France
2% other
------
Referer:
98% www.slashdot.org
2% other
I haven't played witcher, or any game this year. However a good friend of mine, did and he was more than happy with it. From what he told me about the game, it sounds awesome, the game has a lot of soul. Some of the story/choice ideas sounded very fallout-ish which is a good thing. :D
Especially loved the idea where you have to get drunk to get information off some npcs.
From the article:
"Normally, we're rooting against the asteroid," when it has Earth in its cross hairs, Chesley said. "This time we're rooting for the asteroid to hit."For all we know mars is a lifeless planet, but still....rooting for the asteroid to hit is just plain mean, bad karma. I hope it doesn't hit. Not only because of my ...uhmmmm.... nickname connection.
I don't know anything for sure, nobody does. However it IS very impractical and redundant to start every sentence with 'As far as I know' or with 'I might be wrong here'.
That's understood, everything I type and know is relative to the information I have and the way I perceive it. For all we know you could be a figment of my imagination, or I could be the figment of yours, or we could be a figments of someone else's. While metaphysics are fun and seemingly profound and deep, they are ultimately pointless. The fact (question arises, what is fact and what is mass hallucination ) that computer cannot effectively communicate its feelings to me makes 'it only a thing that has no feeling to me'. Reality is not something stable, it's basically the general consensus of a large group of people. For some people God is reality, for others aliens.
So yes everything you said could be right, it could be just nonsense as well.
These arguments/discussion are pointless. The real question arises is 'Is it worth discussing?'
You said:
Do you really know that you are anything different than a little sim in a simulated world, or a self-aware mathematical entity in a mathematical universe? I could ask you 'Do you really know we are sims in a simulated world? What proof do you have?'And that would make this just a modified 'Does god exist argument.'...which are pointless as well.
So here are my final statements:
Given the current evidence, I can only conclude this is the only reality there is as currently there is no evidence of any other
Given the current evidence, I can only conclude computers have no feelings, as currently there is no evidence of computers displaying self-conscious actions
The truth is not absolute, no one said it was and who ever think it is, is a bit of a fool (and we are all fools in one way or another). The truth is just a group of conclusion we can make, based on current evidence. Everything I say I know is relative to the today's truth not the absolute truth...we will never be know the absolute truth...or at least we will never be sure we know the absolute truth.
Yeh, you are quite right.
I dug around the article and links in it a little more, came to the server timeline/history
1960 IBM 650 / IBM 1401 (Punched cards)
1965 IBM 360/50 / IBM 1401 (funded by NRC)
1970 IBM 360/65 / IBM 360/40 (first IMS applications)
1975 IBM 370/168
1980 Amdahl V7
1985 Amdahl 580 and V7
1990 IBM 3090-600
1995 Amdahl 5890-300
2000 Amdahl Millennium 415
2005 Amdahl Millennium 1015
Still a nice gesture, once again, mostly cause of the people who worked with it, than the machine itself.
to the guy(or girls and guys) who did this. Any machine that has been in service or at least functional for 47 years, deserves this kind of respect and this kind of send off.
Yes, i know it's only a machine, and it has no feelings. But this is a respectful send off, and 'job well done, thank you' to all people who were involved in designing, maintaining and producing this mainframe.
Plus...it's a very cool..and sounds like fun.
Victim:'Oh, no all my accounts have been cleared, I've got no money, and someone hijacked my facebook profile, and used it to announce my pedophilia problem....and someone installed cameras in my appartment'
Ashoton Kutcher:'Smile, you're on Penetration Testing'
Victim:'??!!' nervous smile 'can I get my money and reputation back?'
Ashton Kutcher:'errr...no..we're keeping your money, and you're pedophile anyway, we just browsed through your disk'
Victim aka the pedophile:*sweating* 'hehehe'
Ashoton Kutcher:'Smile, you're on Penetration Testing'
hilarious isn't it....when you die we use kind words such as 'departed' and 'passed away'
:D
yet when you get fired they use harsh words such as 'eliminated' or 'terminated'.
Makes it seem like getting fired is worse then dying.
I bet George Carlin would get a kick out of that.
oops double negation
not really not newsworthy....should've been 'not really newsworthy'
- In the announcement/article it hasn't been said that site is being shut down
- In the announcement/article it hasn't been said that these people are fired, only team has been 'eliminated' they might have been moved to different projects.
so my biggest (and really the only) grudge here, is that this is not really not newsworthy, the title should have been 'startrek.com team dissolved, future of website in question'Onto my next observation you said
The "pursuit of happiness" is an on-going experience, not a goal. and i agree wholeheartedly, one could use the modified zen statement 'Meditation is enlightenment', and say that 'pursuit of happiness' is futile, because 'the pursuit is happiness'. but then you say If you haven't found what makes you happy yet, heed the example of this sort of person - don't put him down. which kind of makes it sound like it is a goal. Working for 13 years on one website, is hardly a pursuit. It seems to me that if anyone (there is high possibility no one is really wrong here) mistook happiness for 'goal' instead of 'on-going experience', it's the startrek.com team.Has it really been the exact same team for past 13 years? If it was, I would say this is a blessing in disguise for them, if you're 33 (that means, you've been involved in that since you were 20) and your main occupation has been 'maintaining startrek.com' (or any one website), maybe it's time to move on, and fatten up that CV.
I find their use of the word 'eliminated' a bit overly dramatic. Dissolved maybe, but eliminated? It's not like they've all been taken to the alley behind the studio, shot in the head and then dumped in the river.
now this might be a stupid question buuuut:
twisted bundles of magnetic fields connecting Earth's upper atmosphere to the sun.There are magnetic fields that connect earth's upper atmosphere to the sun?
Quite obviously it's a reference to David Bowie
I for one welcome our new earthling overlords
We are one step closer to having an X wing
....what does it sound like...movies always told us that laser will make cool sounds when fired. I vote it makes that 'Ptsui!' sound.
A C-130H might not have the sleek looks but it's a step in the right direction.
My next question is
wouldn't the common goal here be killing the opponent? So they might not be training them to 'murder', but they are training them to kill.
If they really want to teach them just to work together towards a common goal, why not use a sports simulation, like ISS or NBA or whatever... in FPS if you're good enough you can ignore your teammates, this is not true in sports simulations. Soooo those would be better to teach teamwork then an fps, right?
oh right...right...i thought it was 8 seconds
still an hour....even more amazing
you look at the sun, and that's a sun from an hour ago....if sun disappeared you would still see it for an hour. It's an old realization, that quite a few stars I see at night don't even exist anymore.
This is not a new fact to me, but it never ceases to amaze me. Puts everything in perspective somehow. Just proves to you if you see something it doesn't really mean it's there or it even exists anymore. BTW Anyone got a clue how long does it take a signal, to travel from Voyager 2 to Earth?
that the thing has been functioning for 30 years, in such conditions.* All the star trek shows have made us immune to the amazement of such a feat. I mean this thing traveled to the edge of the solar system, we can't begin to comprehend that distance....that's gotta be at least some 30-40 light seconds away from the sun.
It traveled a huge distance, over a rather large period of time, and it still function.
if that doesn't desrve a 'WOW'** that i don't know what does.
*No MS/Linux jokes please
**No World of Warcraft jokes please.
Yes but RIAA was never opposed to music sharing because of the revenue...but because of the principle and morality.
It is for nerds, cause it makes being a nerd less embarrassing (if it's embarrassing at all) by comparison.
You're nerd, get a life!
At least I don't jump out of aircrafts and hope to survive.
Anyway this guy's success can be label as nothing else other then 'failed suicide'. My goal in life is to continually fail to kill myself.
while it's not the most difficult thing to use it can be quite frustrating.
mostly cause of J in ajax. Javscript can be a nightmare to use. I never know if a certain javascript will work on all browsers or even all versions of a certain browser. Most frameworks have solved this by have different code for different browsers, which is another thing I don't like about AJAX, very messy code.
AJAX is not unusable but it requires (or even demands) a very organized approach from the developer side, something that is not always easy if you are working on tight deadlines.
If you want to use AJAX, sit down and think about it, understand what it is, because AJAX (again mostly due to Javascript) can produce some of the most unusual and frustrating bugs. Which are usually easy to fix, but at times almost impossible to find.