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China Anti-Corruption Web Site Crashes On First Day
An anonymous reader tips us to news out of China that the Web site of the National Bureau of Corruption Prevention crashed on Tuesday, just hours after its launch, as droves of people logged on to complain about corruption among officials. "The number of visitors was very large and beyond our expectations," an anonymous NBCP official said.
And boom tomorrow... always boom tomorrow.
Looks like they have their work cut out for them.
China Anti-Corruption Web Site Crashes On First Day
It didn't crash. it just got corrupted.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
"We didn't expect too many people to know about the corruption, or the website. Damn."
Often wrong but never in doubt.
I am Jack9.
Everyone knows me.
TFA doesn't have a URL. Can someone post to help load test their server.
the website is showing chinks in its armor
"The number of visitors was very large and beyond our expectations,"
Oh no. And now the slashdotters are comming!!!!
... and capital punishment for officials caught corrupting.
(I hope the above isn't construed as a death threat against Bush! And his staff. And Congress. And the Senate. DHS... TSA...)
What time is it/will be over there? Check with my iPhone app!
They were probably hosted by netfirms.com
Well let's see. The geek solution is a technical one (website.) While the common sense solution involves people physically doing something, like their civic duty (do I really need to explain what those are?).
The common sense solution involves getting arrested or tased? I somehow doubt that. It may in fact involve blogging on the net about it until your voice is heard. Standing out in the cold and waving signs is the -old- way to protest. You can get a LOT more attention with a good blog, or bunch of bloggers blogging the same blog. Blog blog blog.
Do I have a blog? No, I don't have any extra time in my day to talk to myself. I've better things to do.
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
If they use the code that runs /., and enough commodity computers, the web site wouldn't crash due to load. Can't say about it's pipes to the 'net, though.
Is it "helping" the regime there to have the corruption reported, as in providing a place for the populace to report the corruption, which allows the central government to get a bigger cut, or is it, in the long run, likely to open that government more, which autocrats tend to perceive as "not helping", but which could improve the lives of the proletariat by freeing what wealth and income they have to be spent on themselves?
"Oh no. And now the slashdotters are comming!!!!"
Yup! All 500 Tons of them.
... corruption web crashes you!
(Somehow makes too much sense)
First of all, they'll try to find out why the heck so many people knew about it. I'm fairly sure it was planned as a publicity stunt, showing that only a handful of people will actually use the page, and this in turn was likely tried by not announcing it too widely.
I guess the result of the examination will be the blogging about government activity should be curtailed.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Perhaps it failed the WGA check
This web site was only meant to pacify the citizenry, by making them feel heard. It's no different than here in the USA when you write your Senator or e-mail a company's technical support address: it's not like anyone really cares what you have to say, or will actually read it or do anything about it.
If anything, the corrupt Chinese government officials were just going to use the information to decide which citizens to throw in prison next.
Moderator hint: a comment is neither "Flamebait" nor "Troll" if it is true.
In a part of the world where government corruption is hideously rampant, I think this is a wonderful sign. I suggests that China's national government and many citizens want to reduce corruption. This program might not take down highly connected corrupted officials (only a free press can do that, I think), but I bet it could make lots of people's lives better.
Assuming that the complaints are actually investigated, that the investigations are fair, and that most people don't make false accusations of corruption, that is.
To complain 'on paper' like that?
With that government, i know i wouldn't. Hell, I'm almost afraid to complain about mine these days..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
On second thoughts, the data would just go missing...
Speaking of China and corruption, I had to laugh out loud when I read the quote at the bottom of the [Slashdot] page: "Mencken and Nathan's Fifteenth Law of The Average American: The worst actress in the company is always the manager's wife." There once was an actress named Jiang Qing... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Qing
...the Chinese character for 'pwnt'?
one should install pristine officials right from the original CD, and then periodically CRC them to make sure they haven't been corrupted. It's especially important not to download your officials from any old site on the Web, because they might have been deliberately corrupted.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
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The bureau has been entrusted to collect and analyze
information from the banking, land use, medicine and
telecommunications sectors, among others, and to share
it with prosecuting organs, courts and the police.
Share the information with police, who might actually come after the people making the most complaints?The cynic in me says that this is probably merely an initiative by the government to see where the problems are, rather than a true attempt to end corruption. A few high profile cases will be dealt with, but the rest will be window dressing. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the loudest complainers are quietly dealt with.
I think the Chinese authorities are realistic enough to know that they face an impossible task. Witness the first 'death penalty for corruption' laws enacted, with great fanfare, well over ten years ago. In spite of much PR and many executions, corruption remains as widespread as ever. The death penalty certainly doesn't seem to be a deterrent against corruption.
One of biggest problems facing China's government is ensuring its own long-term survival, and corruption is a big danger to the government's survival. They should know. The communist revolution itself was a reaction against corruption.
As they say: Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
---- It won't be as bad as you fear or as good as you hope, but it will take twice as long as you plan.
Find out what happened to Zheng Xiaoyu, former head of product safety in China.
That was july THIS year, so with one simple googling I basically shot down your entire rant. This story even made it to slashdot, so I not only show you to be incapable of googling, I show you incapable of recollecting events reported on a site you read. Why then shoud I take anything else you write serious?
Get your facts straight, then I might take your opinions serious.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
how can people tag this article with "humor"?
corrupt public servants are being executed in china,
so we are talking about a webinterface to a death-list here!
The MAFIAA is a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes
Wow. I'm reading this comment at -1. W00T for the Slashdot groupthink. Apparently, AC, you should have mentioned what the civic duties are. If you live in a democracy, as this poster (though not TFA) is referring to, and you don't like the people in charge, you VOTE FOR THE OTHER GUY in the next election.
Whine about things on the internet is +3 Insightful and this is -1?
Jenny's got a new number! 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
The PRC has a poor track-record with government-endorsed whistleblower campaigns. Poor, as in thrown in jail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Flowers_Campaign
Curious icons of people, I've never before noticed many fair skinned, blond haired folks from the Middle Kingdom.
Given the fact that for corruption there is a death penalty in China, I wouldn't be surprised if it would be the case for most complaints. If somebody wants to get rid of an enemy, there is no more convenient way to achieve it than this.
:)
Similarly, it was a very popular game in Czechoslovakia during socialism, although no death penalty there. Lot of innocent people landed in jails afterwards.
Long live the wisdom of crowds (anonymous)!
Just funny, I don't want to login to slashdot, so I am posting this also anonymously. Merry Christmas to everyone
One of the most ancient sites.
The calendar on their index page reads "December 24, 107" (The calendar is at the bottom-right corner. Chinese reads dates in Y-M-D order.)
Well, there has been a historical tradition of corruption in China.
Colorless green Cthulhu waits dreaming furiously.
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China leading US on civil rights.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Yes, that would be great. This is China, a lot of people died the last time they tried the "common sense solution".
The site has too much junk on it. No wonder the server is overloaded.
There are several .swf objects. Some are movies. There's a Javascript picture rotator. There seems to be server-side Java; if you try vote.jsp on the site, you get a Java backtrace.
The "vote" script is amusing. The web designer seems to have copied a "suggestion box" script from somewhere, then commented out the "vote" capability. It's so PRC. The government is terrified of their people voting on anything.
someone needs to help em out, that is crazy
this file: http://yfj.mos.gov.cn/yfj/1.jpg
in this frame: http://yfj.mos.gov.cn/yfj/ScrollImg.htm
m10
The anti-corruption web server in the United States of America, housed in the vice presidient's office BLEW UP and started a 2 alarm fire last week.
Windows is not the answer.
Windows is the question.
The answer is "NO."
But "miao" is PERFECT! Fits with lolcats...
:(
I'm going to burn for this
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
Guy was ... dealt with because he messed up with country's image. That's all. Corruption was just an excuse.
In purely internal affairs nobody gives a damn - all china cares these days is to crush any internal commentary and keep up appearances for the west.
I mean, the developers sent me on all those trips, organized dinners for me and sent me and my family cars, tickets to the opera, etc. I was sure that meant the software would be robust.
JET Program: see Japan, meet intere
as droves of people logged on to complain about corruption among officials
Could this have been a denial of service attack?
I mean, a lot of people out there would have cause to mess with China.
As I have lived in both China and the US, I found that: corruption is widespread in China and is mostly illegal, whereas in the US, corruption is not as widespread but is ,b>mostly legal -- in name of campaign and political contribution.
While democracy sounds something wonderful, I actually doubt it can be carried out effectively in China when everyone from officials to average person on the street. There are now limited form of elections in China (vote for the heads of villages.) From what I heard, even that, the candidates will invite their constituents to banquets and give them gifts to "buy" more votes -- like what candidates will do in Taiwan
Looking abroad, where can I find any good examples of democracies in developing countries? Mexico? India? Philippine? Thailand? Russia? Taiwan? None of the important issues -- corruption, equality, fairness, poverty, environment protection -- have been solved any better than in China or Vietnam.
"Democracy" has become a marketing scheme for politicians and become as unrealistic as communism.
As anyone who has attended a college/corporate diversity class knows, only white people can be racist. And usually only white males.
It doesn't matter what you think.
It doesn't matter what you do.
It matters what demographic you belong to.
White == Bad
The term "racism" almost always means "the right kind of racism".
Is your hate politically correct hate?
Do you believe that racism is wrong unless you hate white people?
Do you believe that sexism is wrong unless you hate men?
Do you believe that sexual discrimination is wrong unless you hate heterosexuals?
Do you believe that religious intolerance is wrong unless you hate Christians?
Do you believe that freedom of speech involves censoring offensive non-Politically Correct speech?
Do you believe that DoubleThink is hard and that DoubleThink is easy?
Do you keep such an open mind that your brain fell out?
Are you a hypocrite and a bigot? Do your friends praise you for it and call you morally superior? Do you think that your bigotry makes you a better person than others?
ha, I was expecting "National Bureau of ROTTING Prevention".
"Yes, that would be great. This is China, a lot of people died the last time they tried the "common sense solution"."
Yeah! And a lot of people died in the US when it was tried. What's your point?
I'd be worried as a Chinese citizen that this was nothing more than a new way for the Chinese government to track those who have the audacity to publicize\critique or question the governments authoriti. The exit page of the questionaire \ blog forum probably read's:
Thank you for voicing your concern. Your opinion, IP address, home address, names of all friends and relatives have been gathered and your concerned government will be "contacting" you shortly.