...isn't nearly as nice as it would have been to have a native free "2003 Office Theme" included in 2007.
Didn't you KNOW? Moving the functions from one menu to another is part of Microsoft's "innovation"!
I've had to use MS Office since the mid-1990s, and going from one version to another to do what I had to do was a simple matter of re-learning what menus the functions I needed were placed under[1]......until Office 2007. That interface has to be THE MOST RETARDED idea they've ever come up with, and I'm saying it nicely.
--- [1] No, OOo was not an option in my workplace. Too often, applications we were "permitted" to use were kept on a short leash.
The old 8/16-bit computers like the Apple II, Atari 800, and Commodore 64 had to be abandoned to move forward towards the future.
Look at what Microsoft has been doing with Windows, as it relates to being backwards compatible with the MS-DOS days, and tell me that this is still true.:D
Seriously, you do make a point, though I still think the transition could have been handled better. If they had done so, maybe Apple would have a larger user base today than they do.
I guess I'm a little unusual, but I don't think that "age >=30" is a requirement for knowing what a data cassette drive looks like.
You're right, of course. You have to admit that the younger the age these days, the less likely it will be that one is familiar with the equipment, and that is what I was getting at.:)
My first data storage device at home was a cassette tape player connected to a TI 99/4A. It served its purpose, even though my school used Apple II computers. After my sister trashed it by "accidentally" dumping soda pop on the keyboard, I set my sights on the Apple IIgs that I have still.
Because of this sort of training, I knew my way around Spru-cans pretty well. You forgot to mention that there are parts of our "home" that we KNOW are hazerdous for any number of reasons, even more so if they are flooded or on fire.
We have to know how to handle different classes of fires AND how to get them under control quickly, without endangering the rest of the ship.
Ummm.... No. If you did that, you would flood the ship, sinking it. It may not be as big a deal if you're moored to the pier, but if you're at sea, that would be Bad News indeed.
There are some similarities between shipboard firefighting and fighting a house fire, but on shore, firefighters generally don't have to worry about flooding the only thing between them and a very long swim (or worse).
I used to edit AUTOEXEC.BAT to read (or start off with): @echo "g=ffff:0" | debug The fun was in watching the poor sod who had to figure out why the system would keep rebooting when it was almost done booting up.
If you don't have a credit card, then it must mean that you're trying to do things with untraceable cash. And that means you're a terrorist!
Hrm. "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private"... That's what MY bills say, and they were issued by the US Government. What does that say about THEM? (You don't have to go there if you don't wanna.)
Regardless of the reasons they want the number for, advertising, or collecting information, it could also be said that if you are entering the US, and you don't have a credit card, for say emergencies, or you get mugged and all your cash is taken, or you lose your cash, or you accidentally burn your travelers cheques, that you need a credit card for purchases, you are now going to be a leach on the US tax payers in the event you end up in hospital (if you dont have any travel insurance).
Completely a red herring, simply because people have managed to come across the border without dealing with the scenario(s) you present long before credit cards were in common usage.
...I as a tax payer, would prefer that travelers have some sort of method to pay for emergencies rather then using tax payer funds should the need arise.
The unfortunate souls that find themselves in need of medical care when they are visiting this country (I'm in the USA too) usually have some way to arrange for payment, even if it takes a few days for things to coalesce. Most of the abuse of the "tax payer funds" seems to come about when people come into this country illegally.
I was very bitter at Apple over killing the ][ series. I kept my ][gs (I still have it), and it wasn't until about five years ago that I would go near a Mac.
You're a rare one, and likely at the youngest age (give or take a few years) to have a clue what they are without using a search engine to find out about them.
Though I never had a C=64 (I had an Apple II), my cousin had one. I had to learn about it for occasions when he got stuck.
What if you don't HAVE a credit card? What THEN? "Sorry, we can't let you enter the country without a credit card."
If the sole purpose is to fund advertising (as you say they claim), then cash should be an acceptable form of payment. If it is really a ruse to get a credit card number, then one shouldn't have to pay it if one doesn't have one. I, for one, refuse to get into a drawn-out discussion with Border Patrol about my financial decisions.
If using all-caps really bothers them that much, the people at ProCare Health really need to work on getting thicker skin.
Yeah, upper-case is annoying. It's not the end of the world though. What is their corporate environment like, if using upper-case pushes the management over the edge like that?
In fact, assuming it was just a few logins, I'd even give it to him for free, regardless of whetehr I was still an employee or not.
I'll tell you what... Whoever replaced you (in this situation) should be fired immediately if any of the passwords you knew still worked.
I know for a fact that any access I had in each of the last two jobs was eliminated upon my release (one I left a job to take the second, and the second was a recent lay-off). It isn't necessarily a case where I wasn't trusted, but simply one where no self-respecting SysAdmin is going to intentionally leave access open to former employees without a good reason.
In fact, if they want to pay for my services, I'll happily root all their servers and routers and tell them what the new passwords are.
Will I need the expansion to be able to experience the Cataclysm changes?
When the Cataclysm occurs, it will occur for all players, whether they have purchased the expansion or not--you will no longer be to play in the original version of Kalimdor or the Eastern Kingdoms. However, certain features such as the new zones, new races, and new level cap will only be accessible to players who purchase the expansion.
So... Yeah, the "old way" will likely only live-on in our memory.
I'm personally very curious to see how this will work out. If nothing else, this will basically make it a whole new game-- for a while at least, starting a new character will mean not being familiar with the lay of the land, regions will have to be re-learned, etc...
It's not possible that we voted for him based on the fact that we generally agree with his position on most issues, and we had serious concerns about the sanity of the other guy's VP choice?
Uhhh... No.:) (Of those that ran for the presidency in 2008, none of the candidates held my attention. When Senator McCain chose Governor Palin as his running mate, I was ecstatic. I have friends in Alaska that confirmed what I had read in the news regarding her reputation in government, and I thought that was exactly what we needed to shake up Washington. (I'm not naive enough to think that she would single-handedly reform the entire way business is done [like H. Ross Perot thought he would when he ran against Bush the Elder and Bill Clinton], but she'd at least make Congress nervous for a while.)
Senator McCain himself would have been a great choice, except that I didn't care for some of his voting record in Congress.
...overall, I don't see much in the Republican party worth voting for.
I'll agree with you here.
I don't care much about guns...I'm not against them, they're just not an issue for me. I don't have one, I don't want one. If you want one, great. It can be an issue for you.
I don't own one either, largely for two reasons: (1) I'm a lousy shot, (2) I have children in my house that have no fear, so having a firearm even an unloaded one isn't much of an option for me.
On the other hand, I read the Second Amendment to the US Constitution to mean that the citizens should be allowed any weapon they can afford, so they can protect themselves against a Government gone bad. If you think about the time it was added, this makes perfect sense. The Founding Fathers wanted to make sure that the country they were founding didn't prevent the citizens from being able to resist a government that got too powerful for its own good, like the British government was to the Colonies. Make it illegal to even "keep up" with the government, and the government can eventually get to where the citizens don't really matter at all: any uprisings are easily put down by force, and the survivors live in fear.
Plenty of us "lemmings" are plenty well educated,and understand the issues.
...but seem to fail at considering the long-term ramifications of certain actions.
He made some overly optimistic promises before the election, but all politicians do that.
Perhaps, but I've never heard anyone make a list like he did at his acceptance speech at the DNC, where 80% or more of his promises were completely irrational because they were unrealistic or flat-out illegal. Sadly, nobody caught on, because people (especially in the Media) were too busy fawning all over him.
I think he's doing pretty well so far, considering all of the problems he inherited.
Any of my three children could do a better job than he's doing, and that's not much of an exaggeration.
Is Obama any better? Don't know yet, it takes more than a few months after jumping into the cesspool to find out if the new president is actually better, worse, or caught by the undertow.
I'll help you out here and toss an apropos metaphor your way: "Out of the frying pan, into the fire" Let's see why:
Obama has been paying Perkins Coie something in the order of 2.3 million dollars since he announced his candidacy for president. This law firm is one of a few that have been defending Obama in the courts against people who are demanding more than a COLB as evidence of his place of birth. It is a fact that collections are still being accepted to pay for this.
How much do we really know about Obama? Not a lot, it seems.
We know that Senator McCain's long form and short form birth certificates were released when his citizenship was challenged during the presidential race. To date, we have a COLB from Obama, a document that is not accepted by Federal agencies to obtain so much as a passport.
We have Senator McCain's 1974 thesis from his days at the National War College. Obama refuses to allow anyone access to his Columbia thesis.
Despite having been president of Harvard Law Review, Matthew Franck noted in National Review Online, "A search of the HeinOnline database of law journals turns up exactly nothing credited to Obama in any law review anywhere at any time."
The list goes on, but this should give you an idea of what we're up against.
If you'd stop rolling your eyes into the back of your head and foaming at the mouth, maybe you can figure out the difference between counterproductive fear/hate mongering and constructive criticism and debate.
Not all criticism of Obama is "foaming at the mouth". Personally, I'd be satisfied with acceptable evidence of his proof of citizenship, so I could move on. I don't have to like the sitting president (I didn't like Bill Clinton either, but I accept the fact that he was the legally-elected persident), but it's a lot easier to accept or deal with the antics of the president when one knows that he actually belongs in the office.
And yes, this is the last post I will make to this article and thread. Rant all you want and spit into the wind to your hearts content, I will not respond.
You're free to ignore this if you want. Last time I checked, that was your right. I hope that you'll at least think about the things I've mentioned.
While Obama made some overly optimistic promises it's pretty clear that congress and political fear mongering are limiting factors. Obama is not a genie. He has no magic wand.
Sadly, the average Obama lemming-uhhh-supporter doesn't realize that, so they voted for Obama based on his promises.
This is based on my own polling[1] of Massachusetts residents who voted for Obama.
--- [1] Of course, polls being what they are, you should probably take this with a grain or two of salt.
I use Earthlink for an ISP. I also know how to change my "default" DNS servers, so I don't have to deal with their antics.
If people don't like what the ISP does to things like this, they should either learn how to fix the problem (because their ISPs will simply say there IS no problem because it's functioning as it was designed to do) or look for another ISP.
Why do I stay with Earthlink? Simple:
Cable modem service is cheaper than DSL rates in my area, given identical UL/DL speeds.
I don't have cable TV (by choice), so having cable modem service alone would be higher with Comcast, the Cable provider in my area.
Eathlink service (in my area, at least) is "powered by Comcast". If there are broadband-related issues, Earthlink will work with Comcast's people to work out any problems.
The first five digits aren't guaranteed to have anything to do with the person's place of birth, and the date of birth doesn't really have any say in the matter anyway.
Information on the derivation of a person's SSN can be found on the SSA's website.
Before 1972, the first three digits came from blocks assigned to the state from which the SSN was issued. After 1972, the first three digits came from the ZIP code of the applicant's mailing address (which, as you may expect, is not guaranteed to be the same as the actual place of residence).
Myself, I was born in one state, raised in another, but my SSN reflects the state I was living in at the time my mother applied for it. (I'm old enough where I was not issued a number at birth, like my children were.) I have fun with people who try to show their intelligence with comments like "Oh, you're from [State], huh?":)
Slashdot Mirror
...isn't nearly as nice as it would have been to have a native free "2003 Office Theme" included in 2007.
Didn't you KNOW? Moving the functions from one menu to another is part of Microsoft's "innovation"!
I've had to use MS Office since the mid-1990s, and going from one version to another to do what I had to do was a simple matter of re-learning what menus the functions I needed were placed under[1]... ...until Office 2007. That interface has to be THE MOST RETARDED idea they've ever come up with, and I'm saying it nicely.
---
[1] No, OOo was not an option in my workplace. Too often, applications we were "permitted" to use were kept on a short leash.
The old 8/16-bit computers like the Apple II, Atari 800, and Commodore 64 had to be abandoned to move forward towards the future.
Look at what Microsoft has been doing with Windows, as it relates to being backwards compatible with the MS-DOS days, and tell me that this is still true. :D
Seriously, you do make a point, though I still think the transition could have been handled better. If they had done so, maybe Apple would have a larger user base today than they do.
I guess I'm a little unusual, but I don't think that "age >=30" is a requirement for knowing what a data cassette drive looks like.
You're right, of course. You have to admit that the younger the age these days, the less likely it will be that one is familiar with the equipment, and that is what I was getting at. :)
My first data storage device at home was a cassette tape player connected to a TI 99/4A. It served its purpose, even though my school used Apple II computers. After my sister trashed it by "accidentally" dumping soda pop on the keyboard, I set my sights on the Apple IIgs that I have still.
Because of this sort of training, I knew my way around Spru-cans pretty well. You forgot to mention that there are parts of our "home" that we KNOW are hazerdous for any number of reasons, even more so if they are flooded or on fire.
We have to know how to handle different classes of fires AND how to get them under control quickly, without endangering the rest of the ship.
Submariners have other problems to deal with too.
Ummm.... No. If you did that, you would flood the ship, sinking it. It may not be as big a deal if you're moored to the pier, but if you're at sea, that would be Bad News indeed.
There are some similarities between shipboard firefighting and fighting a house fire, but on shore, firefighters generally don't have to worry about flooding the only thing between them and a very long swim (or worse).
Relax... There's life outside Slashdot.
<gasp!> There IS?!? Who'd have thunk it?
I used to edit AUTOEXEC.BAT to read (or start off with):
@echo "g=ffff:0" | debug
The fun was in watching the poor sod who had to figure out why the system would keep rebooting when it was almost done booting up.
If you don't have a credit card, then it must mean that you're trying to do things with untraceable cash. And that means you're a terrorist!
Hrm. "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private"... That's what MY bills say, and they were issued by the US Government. What does that say about THEM? (You don't have to go there if you don't wanna.)
Regardless of the reasons they want the number for, advertising, or collecting information, it could also be said that if you are entering the US, and you don't have a credit card, for say emergencies, or you get mugged and all your cash is taken, or you lose your cash, or you accidentally burn your travelers cheques, that you need a credit card for purchases, you are now going to be a leach on the US tax payers in the event you end up in hospital (if you dont have any travel insurance).
Completely a red herring, simply because people have managed to come across the border without dealing with the scenario(s) you present long before credit cards were in common usage.
...I as a tax payer, would prefer that travelers have some sort of method to pay for emergencies rather then using tax payer funds should the need arise.
The unfortunate souls that find themselves in need of medical care when they are visiting this country (I'm in the USA too) usually have some way to arrange for payment, even if it takes a few days for things to coalesce. Most of the abuse of the "tax payer funds" seems to come about when people come into this country illegally.
Quick, make it more well known so Apple is sure to pull it off the AppStore tomorrow morning, if it takes that long.
As of this morning it's no longer available in the US, according to the App Store app. :(
While the ][ fanbase moved on to the Mac
Ummm... No. Not all of the ][ fanbase moved on.
I was very bitter at Apple over killing the ][ series. I kept my ][gs (I still have it), and it wasn't until about five years ago that I would go near a Mac.
I remember my C64 having "GW Basic"
As I recall, GW BASIC was on the PC and compatibles.
As a complete side-bar, I found the GW BASIC dialect very easy to learn, due to many similarities to BASIC+, which I learned on a DEC PDP 11/70.
You're a rare one, and likely at the youngest age (give or take a few years) to have a clue what they are without using a search engine to find out about them.
Though I never had a C=64 (I had an Apple II), my cousin had one. I had to learn about it for occasions when he got stuck.
What if you don't HAVE a credit card? What THEN? "Sorry, we can't let you enter the country without a credit card."
If the sole purpose is to fund advertising (as you say they claim), then cash should be an acceptable form of payment. If it is really a ruse to get a credit card number, then one shouldn't have to pay it if one doesn't have one. I, for one, refuse to get into a drawn-out discussion with Border Patrol about my financial decisions.
If using all-caps really bothers them that much, the people at ProCare Health really need to work on getting thicker skin.
Yeah, upper-case is annoying. It's not the end of the world though. What is their corporate environment like, if using upper-case pushes the management over the edge like that?
In fact, assuming it was just a few logins, I'd even give it to him for free, regardless of whetehr I was still an employee or not.
I'll tell you what... Whoever replaced you (in this situation) should be fired immediately if any of the passwords you knew still worked.
I know for a fact that any access I had in each of the last two jobs was eliminated upon my release (one I left a job to take the second, and the second was a recent lay-off). It isn't necessarily a case where I wasn't trusted, but simply one where no self-respecting SysAdmin is going to intentionally leave access open to former employees without a good reason.
In fact, if they want to pay for my services, I'll happily root all their servers and routers and tell them what the new passwords are.
THIS is an entirely different problem. :D
From the FAQ:
Will I need the expansion to be able to experience the Cataclysm changes?
When the Cataclysm occurs, it will occur for all players, whether they have purchased the expansion or not--you will no longer be to play in the original version of Kalimdor or the Eastern Kingdoms. However, certain features such as the new zones, new races, and new level cap will only be accessible to players who purchase the expansion.
So... Yeah, the "old way" will likely only live-on in our memory.
I'm personally very curious to see how this will work out. If nothing else, this will basically make it a whole new game-- for a while at least, starting a new character will mean not being familiar with the lay of the land, regions will have to be re-learned, etc...
I'm excited to see this.
This is not always a help... My wife plays WoWC too. Sadly, she's better at the game than I am.
Amazing that you would comment about the sanity of Palin when Obama's VP choice is about the dumbest human being to ever.
There's only one other person that comes to mind when I think about VP Biden: Dan Quayle.
It's not possible that we voted for him based on the fact that we generally agree with his position on most issues, and we had serious concerns about the sanity of the other guy's VP choice?
Uhhh... No. :) (Of those that ran for the presidency in 2008, none of the candidates held my attention. When Senator McCain chose Governor Palin as his running mate, I was ecstatic. I have friends in Alaska that confirmed what I had read in the news regarding her reputation in government, and I thought that was exactly what we needed to shake up Washington. (I'm not naive enough to think that she would single-handedly reform the entire way business is done [like H. Ross Perot thought he would when he ran against Bush the Elder and Bill Clinton], but she'd at least make Congress nervous for a while.)
Senator McCain himself would have been a great choice, except that I didn't care for some of his voting record in Congress.
...overall, I don't see much in the Republican party worth voting for.
I'll agree with you here.
I don't care much about guns...I'm not against them, they're just not an issue for me. I don't have one, I don't want one. If you want one, great. It can be an issue for you.
I don't own one either, largely for two reasons: (1) I'm a lousy shot, (2) I have children in my house that have no fear, so having a firearm even an unloaded one isn't much of an option for me.
On the other hand, I read the Second Amendment to the US Constitution to mean that the citizens should be allowed any weapon they can afford, so they can protect themselves against a Government gone bad. If you think about the time it was added, this makes perfect sense. The Founding Fathers wanted to make sure that the country they were founding didn't prevent the citizens from being able to resist a government that got too powerful for its own good, like the British government was to the Colonies. Make it illegal to even "keep up" with the government, and the government can eventually get to where the citizens don't really matter at all: any uprisings are easily put down by force, and the survivors live in fear.
Plenty of us "lemmings" are plenty well educated,and understand the issues.
...but seem to fail at considering the long-term ramifications of certain actions.
He made some overly optimistic promises before the election, but all politicians do that.
Perhaps, but I've never heard anyone make a list like he did at his acceptance speech at the DNC, where 80% or more of his promises were completely irrational because they were unrealistic or flat-out illegal. Sadly, nobody caught on, because people (especially in the Media) were too busy fawning all over him.
I think he's doing pretty well so far, considering all of the problems he inherited.
Any of my three children could do a better job than he's doing, and that's not much of an exaggeration.
Is Obama any better? Don't know yet, it takes more than a few months after jumping into the cesspool to find out if the new president is actually better, worse, or caught by the undertow.
I'll help you out here and toss an apropos metaphor your way: "Out of the frying pan, into the fire" Let's see why:
The list goes on, but this should give you an idea of what we're up against.
If you'd stop rolling your eyes into the back of your head and foaming at the mouth, maybe you can figure out the difference between counterproductive fear/hate mongering and constructive criticism and debate.
Not all criticism of Obama is "foaming at the mouth". Personally, I'd be satisfied with acceptable evidence of his proof of citizenship, so I could move on. I don't have to like the sitting president (I didn't like Bill Clinton either, but I accept the fact that he was the legally-elected persident), but it's a lot easier to accept or deal with the antics of the president when one knows that he actually belongs in the office.
And yes, this is the last post I will make to this article and thread. Rant all you want and spit into the wind to your hearts content, I will not respond.
You're free to ignore this if you want. Last time I checked, that was your right. I hope that you'll at least think about the things I've mentioned.
While Obama made some overly optimistic promises it's pretty clear that congress and political fear mongering are limiting factors. Obama is not a genie. He has no magic wand.
Sadly, the average Obama lemming-uhhh-supporter doesn't realize that, so they voted for Obama based on his promises.
This is based on my own polling[1] of Massachusetts residents who voted for Obama.
---
[1] Of course, polls being what they are, you should probably take this with a grain or two of salt.
I use Earthlink for an ISP. I also know how to change my "default" DNS servers, so I don't have to deal with their antics.
If people don't like what the ISP does to things like this, they should either learn how to fix the problem (because their ISPs will simply say there IS no problem because it's functioning as it was designed to do) or look for another ISP.
Why do I stay with Earthlink? Simple:
Generally, I'm pleased with Earthlink.
The first five digits aren't guaranteed to have anything to do with the person's place of birth, and the date of birth doesn't really have any say in the matter anyway.
Information on the derivation of a person's SSN can be found on the SSA's website.
Before 1972, the first three digits came from blocks assigned to the state from which the SSN was issued. After 1972, the first three digits came from the ZIP code of the applicant's mailing address (which, as you may expect, is not guaranteed to be the same as the actual place of residence).
Myself, I was born in one state, raised in another, but my SSN reflects the state I was living in at the time my mother applied for it. (I'm old enough where I was not issued a number at birth, like my children were.) I have fun with people who try to show their intelligence with comments like "Oh, you're from [State], huh?" :)
Social Security Numbers have been around since 1963 (says Wiki).
I think you've got an accidental transposition here... According to the SSA, the first card was issued in 1936, not 1963.