How does being a doctor provide any expertise in traffic engineering?
You mentioned three different fields. Unless you are properly educated, and licensed in both our jurisdictions, you have no right to an opinion.
Look, obviously I'm engaging in reductio ad absurdum. Because this entire case is just that. This was not a court case, where a person who is being called as an expert witness needs to present some evidence of that expertise. It isn't a case of an engineer practicing their profession without a license. It is just a person offering their opinion, and perhaps their worst offense is that they are arguing from authority.
Which is probably what pissed off the powers that be, that someone disagreed with them, and tried to present a bona fide.
Clickcrime is also a suitable description. Those criminal mouse clicks on a legal site doing legal things, they terrify me.
Citizen! be careful of conflating, because it can lead you into original thought! We must make certain to not stray from the permissible. Go forth and sin no more, friend.
I never said that US citizens are arrested for pushing LIKE.
That's good, because unlike Switzerland, we aren't. There are mountains of ambiguity in it, even if it weren't considered free speech. Who exactly pressed the "like" button? Are there degrees of like? To your idea that they are spreading the untruth, is laughing, upset, or even disliking emoticon still a punishable offense since by your definition, the crime is the repost. Even outside of the like buttons, If a person comments on the bad posting, be it agreement, commiserating, or disagreeing, they further spread the posting.
Can it be proven that the like button was pushed in earnest? I've seen accidental "likes" pretty often. Touchscreens or oversensitive touchpads can get you an accidental click here and there
This concept has holes big enough to drive a container ship through.
Regardless, here among the savages, we don't arrest people who use a constitutionally protected right, and we have the higher court rulings to prove it.
European propensity to amp it up on these sort of things makes for interesting situations. Now that there are places in Great Britain where a male can be arrested, charged and convicted of a "Hate crime" - something we Neanderthals across the pond save for racial/religious murders and terrorist events - and his crime? Saying hello to a woman http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-eng...http://www.newsweek.com/uk-pol...
Unwanted communications, yikes!
Note that I used an example a bit similar to my cite about the guy who violated a Protection from abuse order in a previous post.
When "hello" or a page like can now be a hate crime, and liking something is a crime, by gosh, I'm going to just sit back with my popcorn, maybe a shot of cheap tequila chased with lemonade, and watch as our superiors descend into whackyland.
And I'll call it "Thoughtcrime" too, because by jingo, I can do that! It isn't against the law here in the backwoods.
However as an electrical engineer, what expertise would that give him when it comes to traffic patterns and traffic light timing? I don't see anything that would qualify him to provide any expertise in these matters.
Well, unless you are both an engineer, a lawyer and a medical doctor, each properly licensed in both your and my locations, you have no right to comment on this matter.
And just as I was about to score an easy 10 million for working with Mrs Elam Mugambe', the poor dear who lost her husband and needed my help with depositing the money in a bank. But then the internet went down.
The records also show that Rettenmaier signed a form when he first handed over the computer, stating that any child pornography found by Geek Squad technicians will be reported to the authorities. When a technician called Rettenmaier to ask him if he wanted his data restored, including pictures, Rettenmaier said yes on a recorded call.
There is something that doesn't quite make sense. Presumably if the Doctor knew he had kiddie porn on his computer, there is a bit of a disconnect that he would sign that form. As well, unless he was insane, why would he consent to BB recovering any data? He would know he had illegal shit on the computer, but said in effect. "Yeah, I know you're going to find that stuff and report it to the feds, but YOLO, LOL!" Something doesn't add up here.
Not thoughtcrime. Willfully distributing FALSE STATEMENTS. That's a crime in the USA also. The only thing new here is that the court ruled that the LIKE button qualifies as distribution of false statements. This wasn't about opinion. This was about not doing the fact checking before spreading lies.
Here in the wilds of America, "liking" something on Facebook is considered "free speech"
It is considered analogous to having a bumper sticker. And make no mistakes, opinions can be wrong, but there is no law against having a stupid or false opinion.
Now what you are not allowed to do on Facebook here in the hinterlands is threaten physical violence aganst someone - just like anywhere else. Libel laws are also in play. But for the person who actually performs threatening or the libel. Harassment can also be prosecuted, such as the man who "liked" some facebook pages of an ex girlfriend who had a restraining order against him - he was forbidden any and all contact with her, and that's contact that was not allowed him. http://www.nydailynews.com/new... Basically anything that would be a crime or offense outside Facebook works inside Facebook.
But no, we heathens do not arrest people for having an opinion. We may have some issues, just like Europeans have some serious ones, but we allow people to speak their mind - or press the like button. You might want people fined, jailed or killed for their opinions, but we don't.
No. It is a crime because pushing the LIKE button spreads the message. It isn't just that you liked it, it is that you published it to your network. You helped spread a false and defamatory statement. It is not thoughtcrime at all. It is an actual crime of promoting a lie, something that is punishable under US law also. The only thing new here is ruling that the LIKE button is a form of publication... which it is.
Bullshit. So tell me exactly how many US citizens have been arrested for pushing the "like Button. Show me the statutes, and where "like" is publishing. I can't find them myself, so perhaps a superior European can show me.
Thoughtcrime it is unless you can show me who's been prosecuted here. We get it, you hate us. But that doesn't mean any old bullshit you care to spew is true.
That's two words, even if you did put them very close together.
It is a neologism, from the novel 1984. They combined a lot of different words together.
The reference is to the concept that having a thought, or an opinion can be a crime.
And if it is a crime to push the "like" button on a facebook page, it fits thoughtcrime to a T. This crininal must utilize crimestop in the future to rid himself of his illegal thoughts and illegal opinions. Then he will not be guilty of his terrible crimes.
One might well imagine that ESPN would care about the money flowing in from actual subscribers, but the evidence clearly shows they didn't. Odd business plan, that.
The sitution as usual, doesn't have one single cause. And people with an axe to grind will always find a wy to make it about their cause.
This was fairly simple. It cost people a lot of money to have ESPN on their cable Almost all had to pay, even if they didn't ever watch ESPN. Cord Cutting cost them a lot of customers.
Then there was the content. ESPN on television wasn't all that great to watch. Poker is not a spectator sport.
They opened a Southeast Conference specific channel. This makes no sense, especially as the SEC was losing dominance in football.
They are trying to appeal to younger people. Many of the remaining people on cable don't want politics mixed with their sports.
Now for my opinions, with some facts mixed in. ESPN has become really boring. I used to listen to the radio, and still do a little. But aside from Dan LeBatard in the morning - a show that traditionalists hate, and Stephan Smith in the evening - Who I don't think anyone likes because it's yelling mostly, everyone else has been mostly talking about football, and when I say football, it's quarterbacks, and drafting quarterbacks, and then they turn into talking about Tom Brady. Seems like every damn story turns into Tom Brady.
In the end, their product just isn't all that great.
There is no way you can tell that those guys are trans just by looking at them, so how are you supposed to know that any random guy who wonders in to the bathroom is legally required to be there?
But Animojo - you don't see the big picture here.
Part of the Republican jobs creation program is the highly desireable peen inspector
In every public bathroom, there will be a peen inspector. If you have to go, you have to drop trou, and allow the peen inspector to check out the family jewels, or lack thereof. The peen inspector then directs you to the restroom you are allowed to go to.
I agree with you - but I have actually looked at the data.
I oppose these bills because they don't fit the data at all.
I would however be highly in favor of a bill banning republican elected officials from public bathrooms altogether. After all - the data is clear, quite a LOT of people (including many children) have been raped by republican elected officials in bathrooms....
And that friends, it what we call a headshot.
While most of the rest of the world simply gets rid of a little bodily waste, here in the US, many of us have our fecal matter and urine spot welded onto our sexuality.
Now I'm pretty permissive, but it doesn't occur to me to conflate restrooms with orgasms. So I have a hard time explaining the obsession many do have as anything other than projection.
Google is our friend here as well. In the days before O'Blama and his merry band of Queersome Kenyans grabbed America by the balls, there should not have been men or transgenders assaulting our wimminfolk in public restrooms, right? Turns out that there was and is.
At least for men and women - couldn't find any transgenders doing this. There is a word for people of any gender who would attack another in a rest room.
That word is criminal.
Finally, any of y'all ever go to a football game or rock concert, or country fair or flea market? Better not, because most don't have a specific gender for their porta-potties. Why, not only might some queebie be waiting to harass our wimminfolk, but the poor defenseless dear might look in the thing, and see a man-turd.
But seriously, people have been sharing the same toilets for decades.
Companies should have enough control over their products that they can prevent their products from being used as an instrument of abuse by other companies.
When your business model is based on cheap, you can't expect the company to have amenities like updates. Expecting the KankPoo Android phone you bought at a flea market to get updates simply isn't realistic.
The carriers take stock android and customise it to their requirements. It is then the carriers responsibility to get that sorted out update-wise.
Cheap. Remember cheap. With android's biggest draw being cheap, once that phone is out of most companies hands and into yours, they are done with you. Since cheap rules for Many-most android users, there isn't anyone on the company staff to do the required testing and rollout.
So like so many of my friends who laugh about my "Overpriced Apple shit", and their economical Android Phones, they get a new one every year because the old one is all screwed up. Meanwhile I'm on only my second iPhone.
Mint has a long way to go, however. Out of the box it's fantastic, but installing anything becomes quickly overwhelming for end users.
I hear ya Bro! I damn near died when I opened Synaptics and then I'm telling you the facking program made me enter my password - again, fer crissakes! Then I had to search through all of these gaddamned programs and get this - click on the one I wanted. Then it was scary, when a new screen popped up and told me it had to install some other programs - wut dafuk? Sounds like a virus or sumpin from the roooshians!
Finally I just gave up, asked for prayers from me friends on facebook and cried myself to sleep.
So what you're saying is that you have no idea what "high treason" actually means. Have you considered actually looking it up? It's actually written down in words you can probably understand! But I can understand why you would remain (or pretend to remain) deliberately ignorant of that, because it would take all the fun out of your phony outrage and obvious partisan hypocrisy.
ttaboy Ivan. Or is it Boris. WE're getting pretty bored with y'all. Do they pay you with dollars or rubles?
Claiming that anyone who supports the president, nearly half of all voters, are treasonous while claiming to have the sane position?
Lay off the recreational chemicals buddy.
I wonder how many of those voters still support him, Ivan? If they do support sharing codeword intel and using Russian intel for secret communications hidden fmor teh country thy live in, I'm happy to call them traitors. And Ivan - as easy as it is to hack electronic voting machines, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out there is more interesting news coming from that area.
The Republican base is shifting away from Trump. It may take a while yet, but with mid-terms next year, if Trump's support falls much further, Republican lawmakers will take what they have and remove him. In the end, if all he has left supporting him is the Alt-right crowd, that's a pretty puny support base.
There are a few highly placed lawmakers I would like to have answer the same questions that the Trump team will be answering soon. There were some known truths that they were willing to look the other way about that make me question exactly why they chose to look the other way.
I'm willing to put up with shenanigans from time to time, but a hard and fast line when it comes to treason.
And I do consider anyone still supporting that gang as likewise accepting of treason.
If you piss away $100/month, you're pissing away $1200/year. That's not the kind of money that allows you to buy real estate.
But it does become the kind of money after ten years or so.
While millenials have had some issues - and every generation does - this is not specifically one of them.
Seems like most people don't know how to save money, nor do they know how to make their money work for them. You buy when the time is right, not when you or your spouse falls in love with a house, or even when there are special deals with down payments.
You save money. Try saving a mortgage payment of a house every month. You'll see your savings approach down payment level in no time, and if you still take a little longer to find a place, well, you'll just have more moey for the down payment.
Financial incompetence knows no one generation. I'm a late stage boomer, and we had plenty of financial dumfuks.
Also, as a Millennial, I prefer to have a couple months salary of savings, for obvious reasons. I have a budgeted amount that goes to savings every month, and I get quite agitated if for some reason I have to use it for something else. But that usually stops me from drawing it from savings, so it's a wash really. And what's that about parents? Oh yeah, I pay their cell phone bill and have paid for other things that come up because they blew every cent they had.
And you dear sir are exactly like 100 percent of the millennials.
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How does being a doctor provide any expertise in traffic engineering?
You mentioned three different fields. Unless you are properly educated, and licensed in both our jurisdictions, you have no right to an opinion.
Look, obviously I'm engaging in reductio ad absurdum. Because this entire case is just that. This was not a court case, where a person who is being called as an expert witness needs to present some evidence of that expertise. It isn't a case of an engineer practicing their profession without a license. It is just a person offering their opinion, and perhaps their worst offense is that they are arguing from authority.
Which is probably what pissed off the powers that be, that someone disagreed with them, and tried to present a bona fide.
I am Groot.
Clickcrime is also a suitable description. Those criminal mouse clicks on a legal site doing legal things, they terrify me.
Citizen! be careful of conflating, because it can lead you into original thought! We must make certain to not stray from the permissible. Go forth and sin no more, friend.
I never said that US citizens are arrested for pushing LIKE.
That's good, because unlike Switzerland, we aren't. There are mountains of ambiguity in it, even if it weren't considered free speech. Who exactly pressed the "like" button? Are there degrees of like? To your idea that they are spreading the untruth, is laughing, upset, or even disliking emoticon still a punishable offense since by your definition, the crime is the repost. Even outside of the like buttons, If a person comments on the bad posting, be it agreement, commiserating, or disagreeing, they further spread the posting.
Can it be proven that the like button was pushed in earnest? I've seen accidental "likes" pretty often. Touchscreens or oversensitive touchpads can get you an accidental click here and there
This concept has holes big enough to drive a container ship through. Regardless, here among the savages, we don't arrest people who use a constitutionally protected right, and we have the higher court rulings to prove it.
European propensity to amp it up on these sort of things makes for interesting situations. Now that there are places in Great Britain where a male can be arrested, charged and convicted of a "Hate crime" - something we Neanderthals across the pond save for racial/religious murders and terrorist events - and his crime? Saying hello to a woman http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-eng... http://www.newsweek.com/uk-pol...
Unwanted communications, yikes! Note that I used an example a bit similar to my cite about the guy who violated a Protection from abuse order in a previous post.
When "hello" or a page like can now be a hate crime, and liking something is a crime, by gosh, I'm going to just sit back with my popcorn, maybe a shot of cheap tequila chased with lemonade, and watch as our superiors descend into whackyland.
And I'll call it "Thoughtcrime" too, because by jingo, I can do that! It isn't against the law here in the backwoods.
However as an electrical engineer, what expertise would that give him when it comes to traffic patterns and traffic light timing? I don't see anything that would qualify him to provide any expertise in these matters.
Well, unless you are both an engineer, a lawyer and a medical doctor, each properly licensed in both your and my locations, you have no right to comment on this matter.
Lovingly, in Christ Jesus.
The records also show that Rettenmaier signed a form when he first handed over the computer, stating that any child pornography found by Geek Squad technicians will be reported to the authorities. When a technician called Rettenmaier to ask him if he wanted his data restored, including pictures, Rettenmaier said yes on a recorded call.
There is something that doesn't quite make sense. Presumably if the Doctor knew he had kiddie porn on his computer, there is a bit of a disconnect that he would sign that form. As well, unless he was insane, why would he consent to BB recovering any data? He would know he had illegal shit on the computer, but said in effect. "Yeah, I know you're going to find that stuff and report it to the feds, but YOLO, LOL!" Something doesn't add up here.
Not thoughtcrime. Willfully distributing FALSE STATEMENTS. That's a crime in the USA also. The only thing new here is that the court ruled that the LIKE button qualifies as distribution of false statements. This wasn't about opinion. This was about not doing the fact checking before spreading lies.
Here in the wilds of America, "liking" something on Facebook is considered "free speech"
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
It is considered analogous to having a bumper sticker. And make no mistakes, opinions can be wrong, but there is no law against having a stupid or false opinion.
Now what you are not allowed to do on Facebook here in the hinterlands is threaten physical violence aganst someone - just like anywhere else. Libel laws are also in play. But for the person who actually performs threatening or the libel. Harassment can also be prosecuted, such as the man who "liked" some facebook pages of an ex girlfriend who had a restraining order against him - he was forbidden any and all contact with her, and that's contact that was not allowed him. http://www.nydailynews.com/new... Basically anything that would be a crime or offense outside Facebook works inside Facebook.
But no, we heathens do not arrest people for having an opinion. We may have some issues, just like Europeans have some serious ones, but we allow people to speak their mind - or press the like button. You might want people fined, jailed or killed for their opinions, but we don't.
No. It is a crime because pushing the LIKE button spreads the message. It isn't just that you liked it, it is that you published it to your network. You helped spread a false and defamatory statement. It is not thoughtcrime at all. It is an actual crime of promoting a lie, something that is punishable under US law also. The only thing new here is ruling that the LIKE button is a form of publication ... which it is.
Bullshit. So tell me exactly how many US citizens have been arrested for pushing the "like Button. Show me the statutes, and where "like" is publishing. I can't find them myself, so perhaps a superior European can show me.
Thoughtcrime it is unless you can show me who's been prosecuted here. We get it, you hate us. But that doesn't mean any old bullshit you care to spew is true.
That's two words, even if you did put them very close together.
It is a neologism, from the novel 1984. They combined a lot of different words together.
The reference is to the concept that having a thought, or an opinion can be a crime.
And if it is a crime to push the "like" button on a facebook page, it fits thoughtcrime to a T. This crininal must utilize crimestop in the future to rid himself of his illegal thoughts and illegal opinions. Then he will not be guilty of his terrible crimes.
I was asking about concrete examples of what makes a sports TV channel "progressive" or not.
Some of their announcers and some athletes made it clear they didn't like Trump. Some were women. Dunno if tou consider that concrete or not.
One might well imagine that ESPN would care about the money flowing in from actual subscribers, but the evidence clearly shows they didn't. Odd business plan, that.
The sitution as usual, doesn't have one single cause. And people with an axe to grind will always find a wy to make it about their cause.
This was fairly simple. It cost people a lot of money to have ESPN on their cable Almost all had to pay, even if they didn't ever watch ESPN. Cord Cutting cost them a lot of customers.
Then there was the content. ESPN on television wasn't all that great to watch. Poker is not a spectator sport.
They opened a Southeast Conference specific channel. This makes no sense, especially as the SEC was losing dominance in football.
They are trying to appeal to younger people. Many of the remaining people on cable don't want politics mixed with their sports. Now for my opinions, with some facts mixed in. ESPN has become really boring. I used to listen to the radio, and still do a little. But aside from Dan LeBatard in the morning - a show that traditionalists hate, and Stephan Smith in the evening - Who I don't think anyone likes because it's yelling mostly, everyone else has been mostly talking about football, and when I say football, it's quarterbacks, and drafting quarterbacks, and then they turn into talking about Tom Brady. Seems like every damn story turns into Tom Brady. In the end, their product just isn't all that great.
Thoughtcrime!
Whenever I look into claims like these (e.g. the classic "I don't mind gays, I just don't want it rammed in my face") .
I see what you did there.... 8^)
In that case, surely it follows we need at least one additional bathroom to prevent sexual assaults, so we get bathrooms labelled:
* Straight male * Straight female * Gay male + gay female
Of course bisexuals have to just hold on till they get home.
How old school! There are an infinite number of genders, so it's infinite bathrooms all the way down.
I personally identify as Bubble Yum, bubble gum.
There is no way you can tell that those guys are trans just by looking at them, so how are you supposed to know that any random guy who wonders in to the bathroom is legally required to be there?
But Animojo - you don't see the big picture here.
Part of the Republican jobs creation program is the highly desireable peen inspector
In every public bathroom, there will be a peen inspector. If you have to go, you have to drop trou, and allow the peen inspector to check out the family jewels, or lack thereof. The peen inspector then directs you to the restroom you are allowed to go to.
It will be an elected position.
I agree with you - but I have actually looked at the data. I oppose these bills because they don't fit the data at all.
I would however be highly in favor of a bill banning republican elected officials from public bathrooms altogether. After all - the data is clear, quite a LOT of people (including many children) have been raped by republican elected officials in bathrooms....
And that friends, it what we call a headshot.
While most of the rest of the world simply gets rid of a little bodily waste, here in the US, many of us have our fecal matter and urine spot welded onto our sexuality.
Now I'm pretty permissive, but it doesn't occur to me to conflate restrooms with orgasms. So I have a hard time explaining the obsession many do have as anything other than projection.
Google is our friend here as well. In the days before O'Blama and his merry band of Queersome Kenyans grabbed America by the balls, there should not have been men or transgenders assaulting our wimminfolk in public restrooms, right? Turns out that there was and is. At least for men and women - couldn't find any transgenders doing this. There is a word for people of any gender who would attack another in a rest room. That word is criminal.
Finally, any of y'all ever go to a football game or rock concert, or country fair or flea market? Better not, because most don't have a specific gender for their porta-potties. Why, not only might some queebie be waiting to harass our wimminfolk, but the poor defenseless dear might look in the thing, and see a man-turd.
But seriously, people have been sharing the same toilets for decades.
Companies should have enough control over their products that they can prevent their products from being used as an instrument of abuse by other companies.
When your business model is based on cheap, you can't expect the company to have amenities like updates. Expecting the KankPoo Android phone you bought at a flea market to get updates simply isn't realistic.
The carriers take stock android and customise it to their requirements. It is then the carriers responsibility to get that sorted out update-wise.
Cheap. Remember cheap. With android's biggest draw being cheap, once that phone is out of most companies hands and into yours, they are done with you. Since cheap rules for Many-most android users, there isn't anyone on the company staff to do the required testing and rollout.
So like so many of my friends who laugh about my "Overpriced Apple shit", and their economical Android Phones, they get a new one every year because the old one is all screwed up. Meanwhile I'm on only my second iPhone.
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Mint has a long way to go, however. Out of the box it's fantastic, but installing anything becomes quickly overwhelming for end users.
I hear ya Bro! I damn near died when I opened Synaptics and then I'm telling you the facking program made me enter my password - again, fer crissakes! Then I had to search through all of these gaddamned programs and get this - click on the one I wanted. Then it was scary, when a new screen popped up and told me it had to install some other programs - wut dafuk? Sounds like a virus or sumpin from the roooshians!
Finally I just gave up, asked for prayers from me friends on facebook and cried myself to sleep.
Hold on - am I getting this right? Using Wine to Run Microsoft Office? Too bad there isn't a Linux solution.
So what you're saying is that you have no idea what "high treason" actually means. Have you considered actually looking it up? It's actually written down in words you can probably understand! But I can understand why you would remain (or pretend to remain) deliberately ignorant of that, because it would take all the fun out of your phony outrage and obvious partisan hypocrisy.
ttaboy Ivan. Or is it Boris. WE're getting pretty bored with y'all. Do they pay you with dollars or rubles?
Claiming that anyone who supports the president, nearly half of all voters, are treasonous while claiming to have the sane position?
Lay off the recreational chemicals buddy.
I wonder how many of those voters still support him, Ivan? If they do support sharing codeword intel and using Russian intel for secret communications hidden fmor teh country thy live in, I'm happy to call them traitors. And Ivan - as easy as it is to hack electronic voting machines, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out there is more interesting news coming from that area.
Ivan.
The Republican base is shifting away from Trump. It may take a while yet, but with mid-terms next year, if Trump's support falls much further, Republican lawmakers will take what they have and remove him. In the end, if all he has left supporting him is the Alt-right crowd, that's a pretty puny support base.
There are a few highly placed lawmakers I would like to have answer the same questions that the Trump team will be answering soon. There were some known truths that they were willing to look the other way about that make me question exactly why they chose to look the other way.
I'm willing to put up with shenanigans from time to time, but a hard and fast line when it comes to treason.
And I do consider anyone still supporting that gang as likewise accepting of treason.
If you piss away $100/month, you're pissing away $1200/year. That's not the kind of money that allows you to buy real estate.
But it does become the kind of money after ten years or so.
While millenials have had some issues - and every generation does - this is not specifically one of them.
Seems like most people don't know how to save money, nor do they know how to make their money work for them. You buy when the time is right, not when you or your spouse falls in love with a house, or even when there are special deals with down payments.
You save money. Try saving a mortgage payment of a house every month. You'll see your savings approach down payment level in no time, and if you still take a little longer to find a place, well, you'll just have more moey for the down payment.
Financial incompetence knows no one generation. I'm a late stage boomer, and we had plenty of financial dumfuks.
Also, as a Millennial, I prefer to have a couple months salary of savings, for obvious reasons. I have a budgeted amount that goes to savings every month, and I get quite agitated if for some reason I have to use it for something else. But that usually stops me from drawing it from savings, so it's a wash really. And what's that about parents? Oh yeah, I pay their cell phone bill and have paid for other things that come up because they blew every cent they had.
And you dear sir are exactly like 100 percent of the millennials.